ramshraddha

Hmm.. a bit testy today are we?

Anyway, I'll take your reply as a thankyou?

Sometimes changing where you are is a good idea. Still, the grass isn't always greener. The mind will follow us wherever we go. If you can get to a Temple, that would be ideal. Even the Christians have their outdoor "Revivals" now and then.

Still, it may not be possible to make any changes in location. However, we can make changes in our daily routine, even subtle changes. For instance, we know that there are 9 processes of devotional service. Chanting, or kirtanam, is but one of those 9. I've found that sometimes I feel rejuvenated after reading from scripture, even if it's just for 10 or 15 minutes. Or singing the holy name out loud (instead of japa.) Or reciting a prayer from Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur. Or chanting Lord Nityananda Prabhu's name for a few minutes. I think there might be something to the mantrarajas, as Lord Nityananda and Lord Gauranga never consider our offenses. So, maybe try sravanama and vandanam to help get you jump started back into japa.

I know the feeling, Pankaja, sometimes when I stop chanting it's hard to start back up, even when others tell me to "just do it." Sometimes we have to break our previous routine and try something different. Take baby steps. Even if we can't chant the full 16 rounds at first, try chanting 4 per day for a couple of weeks and then work your way back up to your prescribed number at your own pace. Better to chant just a little than none at all.

Hope this helps. Nice discussion! I'm sure that it applies to many of us here at one time or another.

So my dear Shvu, if you want to prove a point, I would suggest you start by not contradicting yourself and by backing up your arguments with scriptural reference rather than speculative arguments. Then, and if it can be kept civilized, interesting debates can be had.

 

Otherwise I'm sad to conclude that thusfar your arguments have accrued to form the following image of you (so please allow me to make a summary of your presence on this board based on my 'personal experience', so that hopefully this may inspire you to a change in attitude):

 

To me the only concrete thing you, during your entire span of attendance on this board, have ever managed to convey is that you harbour some sort of deep rooted hatred for the Gaudiyas, as you are always on the prowl to start another round of 'bash Gaudiya Vaishnavism' with rancorous, disdainful and often baseless remarks, sometimes even creating the opportunity yourself to slip in some trite bashing remarks in a totally unrelated thread while pretending to only "innocently respond" to alleged insults. Just as in this topic you feel inclined to add the words "Losers - in short". What are you trying to achieve with this attitude and who are you trying to convince by such comments other than yourself? Do you really intend to be remembered as such a scornful person? I can't imagine that you do, yet this is how your internet presence has come to be known to me, and I'm betting lots of others with me. You always point out how the "HK's" 'don't know a thing about Advaita and should therefore not comment on it', yet your view on Gaudiya Vaishnavism is possibly even more distorted and 'infected with rabies' than you take the "HK's" view on Advaita to be, but that never stops you from commenting on Gaudiya Vaishnavism. Having read one of the very first lines of the introductory treatise of your promoted website advaita-vedanta.org which states:

 

Let us be protected together; let us be cultivated together; let us gain

strength and power together; let our study be successful; let us not

hate each other; Om peace, Peace and Peace (for all).

 

Thanks to this sort of immature activity from both camps, this messageboard has been fast going from an interesting place to frequent, to a place full of manifold aparadha to avoid, therefore I'm feeling inclined to use this topic for posting this message as both a defense of my path of Bhakti Yoga & it's votaries (once again), as well as the hope it might instigate a change of heart amongst you, me and our heated fellow boardmembers. There is nothing wrong with a healthy spiritual debate, but lately things are getting more and more antagonistic and ugly and it's all to easy to get swept along by it's waves. So why don't we drop the hatchet and keep it civilized.

Apparently his attitude hasn't changed. The above makes perfect sense; it isn't difficult to comprehend, yet he calls it "mumbo jumbo." When one is addicted to hate, addicted to offending others, then no matter how reasoned and thoughful one deals with such a person, when filtered thru his hate-filled mind and intellect, it translates into "mumbo jumbo."

Thankyou Nsringhadev Prabhu for trying. Great post!