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Sri Bhaktivinoda Thakur answers this question with the following two verses of his Tattva-sutra.

 

bhedabheda vicarahetukam sampradaya bhedam nirupayati

tesham paratvam kecidaparemedamitaretubhyam

 

"Between the Supreme Lord and the living entities certain sages have established oneness and others have established distinction, whereas a third group has observed the simultaneous existence of both oneness and distinction."

 

sarvesham samanjasyam satvika vijnanasya brahmatvabhavat pramana sadbhavacca

 

"All these three views of those realized sages are in complete agreement with each other due to the absence of error in the scientific evidence of the divine revelation."

Are these the three groups?

1. Advaita

2. Dvaita

3. VishishtAdvaita

I named this topic - Energetic/energy - because i found these words mentioned in the explanation of the relation of jiva (individual soul) to God, which is also compared to a relation of sunshine particle to Sun.

Energetic/energy

God/individual soul

Sun/sunshine particle

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I believe the key to interpretation of these "word games" is in the understanding of words: Brahman and Atman.

Vaishnava identify with Atman and is talking from Atman's position,

Mayavadi identify with Brahman and is talking from Brahman's position.

Please comment.

Hi,

what is the definition of concept of energetic and what is the definition of concept of energy?

(question is related to Gaudiya Vaishnava philosophy/theology)

Regards

With all respects, to theist:

Nonsense. I am not into word games for word games sake.

 

"Don't mistake my finger for the Moon." -Lao Tzu

is there any other important point in the analogy of Sun and sunshine particles other than that of the relation between a whole and a part?

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"In one sense I am everything, yet I am independent."

Your have some other point?

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What is wrong with sunshine particle-A saying to sunshine particle-B that they are Sun?

They even tell particle-C and D that they are also Sun, and all other particles...

 

If you "remove" all sunshine particles there is no Sun, is it?

What you are saying is seriously flawed for the most obvious of reasons. Without the Sun globe there would be no sun particles. Why have you not mentioned the Sun globe?

The sun particles can tell other sun particles that they are also sun particles and have emanated from the same sun so in that way they are one but if any one particle claims to be the whole then that poor particle is quite foolish indeed.

is there any other important point in the analogy of Sun and sunshine particles other than that of the relation between a whole and a part?

Srila Prabhupada - "In the Bhagavad-Gita it is accepted that the living entities are sparks of, part and parcel, of God, Krsna. But part is never equal to the whole".

If you remove all bricks, can you talk about the wall?

Only a rascal fool claims to be God

Please correct me in this one:

You are a particle of sunshine who is claiming to be the Sun. Be happy with being a particle. A particle radiates light and warmth as does the Sun. That is glorious but a particle who claims to radiate light and warmth on par with the Sun is sadly delusioned.

What is wrong with sunshine particle-A saying to sunshine particle-B that they are Sun?

They even tell particle-C and D that they are also Sun, and all other particles...

If you "remove" all sunshine particles there is no Sun, is it?

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@bhaktajan:

You can find more information (if you need) about the list if you type in google: schools of hinduism wiki.

I still dont know what sampradaya is Sai Baba.

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From Sarva gattah's post:

Prabhupada first asks: Where is that record in the Vedic scripture about your (Sai Baba's) appearing as incarnation?

Here is a possible explanation/answer to a question:

-three aspects of God (Brahman, Paramatma, Bhagavan)

-Trinity of Shirdi Baba, Sai Baba, and Prem Baba to come

Which sampradaya is Sai Baba?

The devotee of Krishna fullfills all obligations to society and family et al., simply by following the yogic disciplines of Bhakti-yoga. In contrast to those who propagate "avidya" in the name of enlightenment

Bhaktajan

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Sri Isopanisad Mantra 11 Purport:

 

 

 

. . . The culture of vidyä is summarized in Çrémad-Bhägavatam (1.2.14) in the following words:

 

 

 

tasmäd ekena manasä

 

bhagavän sätvatäà patiù

çrotavyaù kértitavyaç ca

dhyeyaù püjyaç ca nityadä

“Therefore, with one-pointed attention one should constantly hear about, glorify, remember and worship the Personality of Godhead, who is the protector of the devotees.”

Unless religion, economic development and sense gratification aim toward the attainment of devotional service to the Lord, they are all simply different forms of nescience, as Çré Éçopaniñad indicates in the following mantras.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I dont understand your reply.

Schools in Vaishnavism:

o Srivaishnavism or Sri-Vaishnava Sampradaya, adheres to teachings of Ramanuja

o Dvaita or Brahma Sampradaya, adheres to teachings of Madhva

o Ramanandi Sampraday, adheres to the teachings of Ramananda

o Shree Swaminarayan Sampraday adheres to teachings of Swaminarayan

o Pushtimarg Sampraday or Rudra Sampradaya, adheres to the teachings of Vishnuswami/Vallabhacharya

o Kumara Sampraday, adheres to teachings of Nimbarka (Nimbarkacharya)

o Gaudiya Vaishnavism (includes ISKCON, the Hare Krishna movement), adheres to the teachings of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (Gaurangacharya)

o Mahapuruxiya dharma or Asomiya Vaishnavism, adheres to the teachings of Srimanta Sankaradeva

o Krishna Pranami Sampraday, adheres to the teachings of Devachandra Maharaj

Schools in Shaivism:

o Saiva Siddhanta, adheres to the teachings of Tirumular/Sundaranatha (Nandinatha Sampradaya, the monistic school) or of Meykandadeva (Meykandar Sampradaya, the dualistic school)

o Adinath Sampradaya or Siddha Siddhanta, adheres to the teachings of Gorakhnath and Matsyendranath

o Siva Advaita, adheres to the teachings of Nilakantha (Srikantha) and Appayya Dikshitar

o Kashmir Shaivism, adheres to the teachings of Vasugupta and his disciplinic lineage, including Abhinavagupta

o Pasupata Saivism, adheres to the teachings of Lakulisa

o Veerashaivism or Lingayat Dharma, adheres to the teachings of Basavanna

Schools in Shaktism

Schools in Smartism

o Advaita Vedanta

Schools in Javanese Hinduism

o Agama Hindu Dharma

Any of these?

Which sampradaya is Sai Baba?

The Five Features

* Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is said to be Krishna (God) Himself, The Supreme Person.

* Nityananda is Krishna's first personal expansion.

* Advaita Acharya is a combined incarnation of Lord Vishnu & Lord Shiva (Harihara).

* Gadadhara is an incarnation of Krishna's internal energy.

* Srivasa is Krishna's pure devotee.

Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is Krishna,

Nityananda is Balarama (yes?),

who are Advaita, Gadadhara and Srivasa?

But i began dreaming lucid when i was 7 yrs old...i didnt do meditation at that time... But i think the cause for lucid dreaming is the level of ones logic understanding and impletation.. for eg. if you dream that the sky is red, then when you ask yourself in dream... that sky cant be red... the moment you do so... you realize that its your dream...

 

Dreams are just so real, its not "strange" that sky is red. Thats how it is... (?!)

I had lucid dreams twice, it happened to me in the days when i was reading literature about lucid dreams.

Sometimes when i wake up i am asking myself- how couldnt i realize that i am dreaming when-...the sky was red (for example).

(about confusions: all the best)

I often have lucid dreams, where i feel everything as real but I know that its only a dream.....

 

That was my dream world... To test how concrete it was, I took some sands in my hand and observed it, i could see each particles of sand as I would see in reality...I felt its warmth, they appeared real...But i knew it was a dream.. (This is a great experience that i ever had)

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What i think is that, this dream is not of a single soul, but its a collective dream which has turned into very very concrete and longer.

Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Moon, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto...

Are this celestial objects all in the same category?

Look at this picture:

ttp://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap050102.html

Explanation: Welcome to Planet Earth, the third planet from a star named the Sun. The Earth is shaped like a sphere and composed mostly of rock. Over 70 percent of the Earth's surface is water. The planet has a relatively thin atmosphere composed mostly of nitrogen and oxygen. Earth has a single large Moon that is about 1/4 of its diameter and, from the planet's surface, is seen to have almost exactly the same angular size as the Sun. With its abundance of liquid water, Earth supports a large variety of life forms, including potentially intelligent species such as dolphins and humans. Please enjoy your stay on Planet Earth.

By Martya-loka you mean what is in the picture (planet Earth)?

Svarga, Martya and Pātāla- three planetary systems.

Is Earth one of these?