Sidhdhi

Dear Ghoshji,Today Lajmiji replied that Vakasidhdhi is a God's Gift, and one is usually born with it...the s/l of the Ascendant will show it clearly... However as per K.P., if the s/l of II is Jup or Merc and signifies II,XI,I & VI......one will be blessed with this Gift...and will be prominent

and earn the native fame during the periods of these significators. ..But if you have ardour to make your prediction more correct you must

try to enlighten at least AGYAN CHAKRA by meditation and by following celibate life.Besides this you must worship your right deity.But

secret behind vaak Sidhdhi is to follow Sadhana of complete Truth and there is no short cut except this.

Wishing you all, the very best,

Yours sincerely

Dhirendra Nath Misra

Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 11:42:11 AMRe: Re: What is the correct birth time?

 Dear members,

In my understanding, the rule is RP moon star = Natal Asc Sub and RP Moon sub= Natal asc sub sub.

I may be wrong.

Lajmiji please confirm.

Regards

Suprakash

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Senthil

@gro ups.com

Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:17 AM

Re: Re: What is the correct birth time?

Dear Memebrs,

//After all , the rule stated by Lajmiji is based on RP ............ ..//

To be very clear, It is based on Birth Chart RP only. The RULE is giving very simple relation between the NATAL chart data only. That is

"Natal Asc Sub = Natal Moon Star & Natal Asc Sub-Sub = Natal Moon Sub"

Please refer files section Word file,

Asc Sub = Moon Star & Asc Sub-Sub = Moon Sub Rule.docx

& the URL given below.

http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 16098?threaded= 1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 17262?threaded= 1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 20847?threaded= 1 & l=1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 22223?threaded= 1 & l=1 http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 28249?threaded= 1 & l=1

GOOD LUCK!!

D.Senthil--- On Mon, 12/28/09, Subha <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> wrote:

Subha <suprakash.ghosh@ cesc.co.in> Re: What is the correct birth time?@gro ups.comMonday, December 28, 2009, 8:34 AM

Punit jiNo , it does not mean that.The relations are just to locate the most representative planet for star/sub lord of moon.After all , the rule stated by Lajmiji is based on RP and RP doesn't always indicate in a streight way. Even Rahu / Ketu may represent Moon star or sublord .Take my conditions as:A = RP moon StarlordB= Expected sub lord in Natal ChartIf A and B have relations as per the rules mentioned by me (please note and stress the 'AND' conditions), we should not blindly put A in place of asc sub lord. Instead, B, a planet not appeared as moon star lord may become strong contender for sub position as well.The same logic is for finding SS lord also.Hope I can clear your doubt.RegardsSuprakash@gro ups.com, Punit Pandey

<punitp wrote:>> Dear Suprakash ji,> > I do not understand how you will use point 'a' to 'h' in case of> ascendnat-moon connection rule?> > Does it mean that -> > Ascedant sub lord can be> 0) moon's star> a) in the star of Moon's star> b) in sub of Moon's star> c) in sign Moon's star> c-1)A in sign of B and B in sign of A in navamsa [this is not KP, so> ignoring this]> d) Ascendant sub conjoins Moon's star> e) A third planet is in orb of ascedant sub and moon's star> f) ascendant sub aspects moon's star (vedic)> g) moon's star aspects ascedant sub (vedic)> f) ascendant sub aspects moon's star (vedic)> g) moon's star aspects ascedant sub (vedic)> > If my understanding is correct, at least in the case of ascendant-moon rule> it doesn't make sense because one of the above

condition will be always> going to be satisfied. So many rule, makes almost any time correct. You have> mentioned so many conditions.> > Thanks & Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Suprakash Ghosh <> suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:> > >> >> > Dear Punitji> >> > *Collection of reliable birth data* : we need to have connection with> > nursing homes / docs and have to volunteer to get the the actual time of> > first cry.> >> > *As per my understanding, two planets A & B are connected if :*> >> > a) A in star of B and B in star of A> > b) A in sub of B and B in sub of A> > c) A in sign of B and B in sign of A> > c-1)A in sign of B and B in sign of A in navamsa> > d) A conj B (3 deg 20min, 5 deg

for moon.merc)> > e) If A and B are not with in the specified orb, if a third planet C is> > inbetween and each one of A & B maintains a gap of mentioned orb with C> > f) A aspect B (vedic, with specified orb)> > g)B aspect A (vedic, with specified orb)> > h) A aspect B (Western, Trine Sextile and semisextile ,with specified> > orb)> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > Suprakash> >> >> >> > -> > ** Punit Pandey <punitp> > *To:* @gro ups.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, December 20, 2009 3:32 PM> > *Subject:* Re: What is the correct birth time?> >> >> >>

> Dear Suprakash ji,> >> > AAA is the best we have available with us. If you have any alternate and> > better method for verification, it is welcome. Please let us know how you> > want to do it?> >> >> >> >> > Also, if you want to test indirect connection between Asc and Moon, please> > suggest how you want to define connection? Once we have this definition of> > connection, we can again try verifying Asc-Moon connection method with your> > suggestions incorporated.> >> > Thanks & Regards,> >> > Punit Pandey> >> >> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Suprakash Ghosh <> > suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:> >> >>> >>> >> Dear Punit ji> >>> >> Since the study was conducted long

a go, can you please let us know the> >> basic conditions assumed during the test.> >> Was the test conducted one at a time or all together? What was the> >> genuinity of the birth time? AAA rating is not all.Have all the charts been> >> analysed individually? Astrology is not mathematics. What I mean to say is> >> that, suppose a particular chart has no no connection apparently between> >> moon star and asc sub. but in the chat, they have exchanged stars or in rapt> >> conjunction. Was all the charts analysed in this way?> >>> >> If not, then the test has no relevance.> >>> >> Regards> >>> >> Suprakash> >>> >>> >>> >> -> >> ** Punit Pandey <punitp> >> *To:* @gro ups.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2009 10:56 AM> >> *Subject:* Re: What is the correct birth time?> >>> >>> >>> >> Dear Suresh ji,> >>> >> Please see your post (> >> http://groups. / group/k_p_ system/message/ 30047). I quote -> >>> >> 1. "In actual practice only method suggested by Lajmiji is practicable as> >> well as logical."> >> 2. "Suggesting further research in this matter is like re-inventing the> >> wheel."> >> 3. "When KP stalwarts have recommended a particular method as best suited> >>

and giving correct results, to disbelieve that and insist further research> >> on the subject is surprising."> >>> >> *Lajmi ji recommends Asc-Moon connection method "most often" and the> >> study found that the method doesn't work.* Please see the file section> >> and you can get the study. Stalwarts were advocating it fiercely but> >> what study found is just opposite. The method doesn't work. *That is the> >> reason I say that we should not "blindly" follow even Stalwarts.* Your> >> opinion (point no. 3 above) is just opposite and you recommend following> >> them "blindly" which also means following incorrect methods.> >>> >> *What we are doing is not further research but merely verification of> >> available methods.* People who are marketing their methods for a long> >> time, now

fearing and resisting because it will expose those methods. It may> >> not be in interest of those individuals but it is definitely in interest of> >> KP. Instead of appreciating this verification process and participating> >> in it, I wounder why people are trying to divert attention and making forum> >> loose focus. This is first exercise of this scale and we all must> >> participate in it and make it successful. At the end of this exercise, we> >> will know which methods work and which doesn't. Finally the KP will win.> >>> >> Thanks & Regards,> >>> >> Punit Pandey> >>> >>> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:52 PM, suresh <hattangadi_ suresh@.. .>wrote:> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> Dear Punitji,> >>> I have not

asked you to follow anything blindly.You have obviously not> >>> read full comment where I have said you can test this method for results.But> >>> again obviously my comment has touched a raw nerve.Lajmiji, s forty years> >>> experience in KP notwithstanding you seem to question value of his> >>> experience.My only point is research done in so many directions may not be> >>> conclusive.Apart from this same set of data will be interpreted differently> >>> by different people as will be evident if you have read subsequent post.> >>> Suresh Hattangadi> >>>> >>>> >>> > > >>