Issue of validatrion/verification of natal chart

Dear Manjeet ji,

first of all do reconfirmation of planets as sh. rakesh ji says.

for example

Jupiter is in 1st house

the book says

" Ghar pehla hey takhat hazari, grah phal raja kundli ka,

guru magar na esko chahve, jhagda manushya hey maya ka I

guru agar ghar pehle aave, Elam sona le aata hey,

likhna padna agar na jane, bhes fakiri pata hey II

sona bhi jo sabse umda, dya dharam bhi uattam ho,

sehat bdaulat rishtedaran, nagvali ka saya ho III

umar 16 se ghar ko taren, kul sansar budape main,

guru hawa dono hey chalte, firte kul jaman main IV

umar 27 pita se bichare, khud kamai karta ho,

shani chakkar se satven aave, pita na uska betha ho V

umar mamu ki choti hove, par choti na aapni ho,

ghar satvan gar khali hove, tang takhat ki tuti ho VI

mata uski shiv ji hove, par aurat se darti ho,

bete ko to tarti jave, khud ekyavan par marti ho VII

ketu ladka asar umda, budh nikmma lete hain,

ghar panchve gar shani ho betha, kothe bhi use mande hain VIII "

esi prkar aap sabhi grahon ki nishaniyan aur parkrti ko padte jayen

tatha eske sath sath yah bhi dekhen ki kon sa grah kis grah ke sath

kya yog bna raha hey Jaise aapki btayi kundlee main guru pahle ghar

main tatha shani pachven ghar main hey.Uppar likha hey(ghar panchve

gar shani ho betha, kothe bhi use mande hain)yani

Ab guru ka nek phal badal kar Badh(malefic) ho gaya

Agar guru pahle ghar main malefic yani badh betha ho to jatak aapni

shiksha puri nahi kar pata balki uske ghar main un vyaktiyon ki

snkhya jyada hogi jinke pas kisi kism ki koi degree nahi hogi.

vevahik jivan jyada sukh purvak nahi gujrta balki kyi bar algav bhi

ho jata hey.

aap kitab main se sare grahon ke bare main paden aur jiska teva ho

usse uski nishaniyoun ko puchen. dhire dhire aapke samne sari tasvir

saaf hoti jayegi.

with Regards

mudit982001

lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal>

wrote:

> Hi Manjit

>

> 1. Create a natal chart/janampatri. You can do it on the web at

> astrospeak.indiatimes.com or cyberastro.com. There must be other

sites

> too, so just look around.

>

> 2. Then you have to cast the natal chart per the directioons of the

LK

> school. I will try to explain but please remember I too am a novice

so

> I hope one of the experts will correct me if I am wrong.

>

> (a) The planets remain in the boxes they are in the convention

(vedic)

> chart.

> (b) Simply change the box numbers. Irrespective of the number of

first

> house(asc?) in the conventional chart, label your asc as #1. and

> follow it through anti-clockwise till you reach twelve. Thats your

LK

> chart.

>

>

> Please reconfirm this with an expert as my chances of being wrong

are

> more than that of me being right and I am not being modest here ,

just

> acknowledging my lack of knowledge/skill.

>

>

> Regards

>

>

> RS

>

> ps: I am not trying to poach on the territory of the

> gurus/experts/vidwaans here. Just trying to tell a person in a

> position similar to mine how to get started. If I am incorrect,

please

> point out the mistake and I shall be VERY GRATEFUL to you.

>

>

>

> lalkitab , " mssodhi_in " <mssodhi_in>

wrote:

> > Hello sir,

> > how did you get this please explain.

> > regards

> > manjeet

> >

> >

> > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal "

<rakeshsahgal>

> > wrote:

> > > Group,

> > >

> > > Following is the natal chart:

> > >

> > > H. NO Planets

> > >

> > > 1 Jup

> > > 4 Ket

> > > 5 Sat

> > > 6 Moon

> > > 10 Mars, Rah

> > > 11 Sun,Mer,Ven

> > >

> > > Can someone throw some light on how to proceed with verifying

this

> > > chart?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance for any help

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > R S

Dear Mudit Ji,

It appers the lal kitab I am reading is not complete. My lal kitab is :

Arun Sahita lal kitab, 3rd edition ( 2003)

Hari Krishna Trust, Chandigradh

Could you please tell me which edition of lal kitab do you have ?

Best Regards,

DeepuMudit982001 <mudit982001 wrote:

Dear Manjeet ji,first of all do reconfirmation of planets as sh. rakesh ji says.for example Jupiter is in 1st housethe book says"Ghar pehla hey takhat hazari, grah phal raja kundli ka,guru magar na esko chahve, jhagda manushya hey maya ka Iguru agar ghar pehle aave, Elam sona le aata hey,likhna padna agar na jane, bhes fakiri pata hey IIsona bhi jo sabse umda, dya dharam bhi uattam ho,sehat bdaulat rishtedaran, nagvali ka saya ho IIIumar 16 se ghar ko taren, kul sansar budape main,guru hawa dono hey chalte, firte kul jaman main IVumar 27 pita se bichare, khud kamai karta ho,shani chakkar se satven aave, pita na uska betha ho Vumar mamu ki choti hove, par choti na aapni ho,ghar satvan gar khali hove, tang takhat ki tuti ho VImata uski shiv ji hove, par aurat se darti ho,bete ko to tarti jave, khud ekyavan

par marti ho VIIketu ladka asar umda, budh nikmma lete hain,ghar panchve gar shani ho betha, kothe bhi use mande hain VIII"esi prkar aap sabhi grahon ki nishaniyan aur parkrti ko padte jayen tatha eske sath sath yah bhi dekhen ki kon sa grah kis grah ke sath kya yog bna raha hey Jaise aapki btayi kundlee main guru pahle ghar main tatha shani pachven ghar main hey.Uppar likha hey(ghar panchve gar shani ho betha, kothe bhi use mande hain)yani Ab guru ka nek phal badal kar Badh(malefic) ho gayaAgar guru pahle ghar main malefic yani badh betha ho to jatak aapni shiksha puri nahi kar pata balki uske ghar main un vyaktiyon ki snkhya jyada hogi jinke pas kisi kism ki koi degree nahi hogi. vevahik jivan jyada sukh purvak nahi gujrta balki kyi bar algav bhi ho jata hey.aap kitab main se sare grahon ke bare main paden aur jiska teva ho usse uski nishaniyoun ko puchen. dhire dhire aapke samne sari tasvir saaf hoti jayegi.

with Regards mudit982001 lalkitab , "rakeshsahgal" <rakeshsahgal> wrote:> Hi Manjit> > 1. Create a natal chart/janampatri. You can do it on the web at> astrospeak.indiatimes.com or cyberastro.com. There must be other sites> too, so just look around.> > 2. Then you have to cast the natal chart per the directioons of the LK> school. I will try to explain but please remember I too

am a novice so> I hope one of the experts will correct me if I am wrong.> > (a) The planets remain in the boxes they are in the convention(vedic)> chart.> (b) Simply change the box numbers. Irrespective of the number of first> house(asc?) in the conventional chart, label your asc as #1. and> follow it through anti-clockwise till you reach twelve. Thats your LK> chart.> > > Please reconfirm this with an expert as my chances of being wrong are> more than that of me being right and I am not being modest here , just> acknowledging my lack of knowledge/skill.> > > Regards> > > RS> > ps: I am not trying to poach on the territory of the> gurus/experts/vidwaans here. Just trying to tell a person in a> position similar to mine how to get started. If I am incorrect, please> point out the mistake and

I shall be VERY GRATEFUL to you. > > > > lalkitab , "mssodhi_in" <mssodhi_in> wrote:> > Hello sir, > > how did you get this please explain.> > regards> > manjeet> > > > > > lalkitab , "rakeshsahgal" <rakeshsahgal> > > wrote:> > > Group,> > > > > > Following is the natal chart:> > > > > > H. NO Planets> > > > > > 1 Jup> > > 4 Ket> > > 5 Sat> > >

6 Moon> > > 10 Mars, Rah> > > 11 Sun,Mer,Ven> > > > > > Can someone throw some light on how to proceed with verifying this> > > chart?> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > R S

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Mudit ji, Manjeet ji,

I have seen that negative effects are easy to verify. So the easy method is - identify malefic planets and cross verify their nature. Only grahaphal in each bhava is sometimes not sufficient for verifications, you will have to take tips from whole of the lal kitab. I found it is the most difficult art to learn.

Regards,

Punit Pandey

Mudit982001 <mudit982001 wrote:

Dear Manjeet ji,first of all do reconfirmation of planets as sh. rakesh ji says.for example Jupiter is in 1st housethe book says"Ghar pehla hey takhat hazari, grah phal raja kundli ka,guru magar na esko chahve, jhagda manushya hey maya ka Iguru agar ghar pehle aave, Elam sona le aata hey,likhna padna agar na jane, bhes fakiri pata hey IIsona bhi jo sabse umda, dya dharam bhi uattam ho,sehat bdaulat rishtedaran, nagvali ka saya ho IIIumar 16 se ghar ko taren, kul sansar budape main,guru hawa dono hey chalte, firte kul jaman main IVumar 27 pita se bichare, khud kamai karta ho,shani chakkar se satven aave, pita na uska betha ho Vumar mamu ki choti hove, par choti na aapni ho,ghar satvan gar khali hove, tang takhat ki tuti ho VImata uski shiv ji hove, par aurat se darti ho,bete ko to tarti jave, khud ekyavan

par marti ho VIIketu ladka asar umda, budh nikmma lete hain,ghar panchve gar shani ho betha, kothe bhi use mande hain VIII"esi prkar aap sabhi grahon ki nishaniyan aur parkrti ko padte jayen tatha eske sath sath yah bhi dekhen ki kon sa grah kis grah ke sath kya yog bna raha hey Jaise aapki btayi kundlee main guru pahle ghar main tatha shani pachven ghar main hey.Uppar likha hey(ghar panchve gar shani ho betha, kothe bhi use mande hain)yani Ab guru ka nek phal badal kar Badh(malefic) ho gayaAgar guru pahle ghar main malefic yani badh betha ho to jatak aapni shiksha puri nahi kar pata balki uske ghar main un vyaktiyon ki snkhya jyada hogi jinke pas kisi kism ki koi degree nahi hogi. vevahik jivan jyada sukh purvak nahi gujrta balki kyi bar algav bhi ho jata hey.aap kitab main se sare grahon ke bare main paden aur jiska teva ho usse uski nishaniyoun ko puchen. dhire dhire aapke samne sari tasvir saaf hoti jayegi.

with Regards mudit982001 lalkitab , "rakeshsahgal" <rakeshsahgal> wrote:> Hi Manjit> > 1. Create a natal chart/janampatri. You can do it on the web at> astrospeak.indiatimes.com or cyberastro.com. There must be other sites> too, so just look around.> > 2. Then you have to cast the natal chart per the directioons of the LK> school. I will try to explain but please remember I too

am a novice so> I hope one of the experts will correct me if I am wrong.> > (a) The planets remain in the boxes they are in the convention(vedic)> chart.> (b) Simply change the box numbers. Irrespective of the number of first> house(asc?) in the conventional chart, label your asc as #1. and> follow it through anti-clockwise till you reach twelve. Thats your LK> chart.> > > Please reconfirm this with an expert as my chances of being wrong are> more than that of me being right and I am not being modest here , just> acknowledging my lack of knowledge/skill.> > > Regards> > > RS> > ps: I am not trying to poach on the territory of the> gurus/experts/vidwaans here. Just trying to tell a person in a> position similar to mine how to get started. If I am incorrect, please> point out the mistake and

I shall be VERY GRATEFUL to you. > > > > lalkitab , "mssodhi_in" <mssodhi_in> wrote:> > Hello sir, > > how did you get this please explain.> > regards> > manjeet> > > > > > lalkitab , "rakeshsahgal" <rakeshsahgal> > > wrote:> > > Group,> > > > > > Following is the natal chart:> > > > > > H. NO Planets> > > > > > 1 Jup> > > 4 Ket> > > 5 Sat> > >

6 Moon> > > 10 Mars, Rah> > > 11 Sun,Mer,Ven> > > > > > Can someone throw some light on how to proceed with verifying this> > > chart?> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > R S