Murugan -karthikeyan -the origin s

Dear Sunil Nairji,Skanda Hora must be the oldest one if we are to believe that only 25 Nakshatras were considered in the earliest days of Hindu astronomy and after the Abhijit moved out of the ecliptic we were left with 24 Nakshatras. It was Skanda or Kartikeya, who started the count of Nakshatras from Krittika and he also split the three of the Nakshatras and then the total number of Nakshatras came to be 27 and these Nakshatras were the 27 Yogataras or connecting-stars or junction-stars of the ecliptic. It was Skanda or Kartikeya or Murugan, who was the good brahmin (Subrahmana or Subrahmanyam), who gave the astronomical basis for perfoming the rituals in proper time of the year.It was much later that the equal Nakshatra-divisions, with the Yogataras within them (but not necessarily at the junctions of the nakshatra-divisions), came to

be used and the astronomers started counting the Nakshatras from Ashwini. I think you may be able to throw more precise light on this, preferably with the actual RAs (Longitudes) of the Yogataras, as used by the ancient astronomers.Regards,sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Mon, 8/17/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Murugan -karthikeyan -the origin s Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:23 AM

Dear manoj ji I do agree with u even i dont think he is harappan diety as any thing similar has a resemblance to him till un earthed in harappan sites sure pasupati siva was ( rishab deva of jain s also may b ) deity of Mohenjadaro harappan periods along with Mother Godess ( even some historian claims the old dramila ( Tamil ) was the lingua franca of mahavanchi thurai -mohanjeo daro ( gr8 port of ships ) and parappan -harappan ( means siva worshippers ) region .Sure ,there is so many Local versions of god s like mariamma ,murugan ,ayyappan who all may b later incorporated in vedic Hindu religions and ritual s But there is one thing i find most of the sidha saiva worshippers also has deep reverence for muruga or subramnya and even there is a blf in most of the south ,esp Dravida -chera ( tamilnadu and kerala ) region s as Lord subramanya is

ruling deity of astrology .is it due to fact that skanda hora is supposed to b one of the Oldest astrological treatise and Murugan otherwise also Known as skanda or is it due to the fact he married a tribal girl called valli and some of this tribals also traditionaly into astrology ,palmistry and face reading etc rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sunil Ji,> > Very nice article. When one travels to the remote villages in T.Nadu, even today, it is clear that even that Lord Muruga is never worshipped in total isolation but always in the context of Shiva and Shakti. If indeed he had been a "harrappan" diety, there would have been much stronger isolatory worship.> > Just as a side note to all the "Aru Padi Vedu" (The holy hills of Lord Muruga) in T.Nadu are

very potent spiritual hubs providing incredible spiritual fodder for the sincere devotee. He is not called "Kaliyuga Kadavul", "Lord of Kali Yuga" for nothing. > > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:57:12 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Murugan -karthikeyan -the origin s [1 Attachment]> > > [Attachment( s) from Sunil Nair included below] > > > > Dear List > > here is an interesting article abt the dravida diety Murugan other wise Known as karthikayan > > rgrds sunil nair > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video

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