Guest guest Posted May 28, 2005 Report Share Posted May 28, 2005 Dear Utpal, Today I had the opportunity to go through your analysis in detail. I must say it is not only excellent but a very systematic and sound logic based analysis. It stands out for its simplicity and is totally clutter-free. Congratulations once again and keep up the good work! Now that you are out of Sade-Sathi period, I wish you all success in your astrological journey. Best Regards Jeyaram -- vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote: > Dear Jayaram, > > I am trying to answer your puzzle taking only Husband's chart in to consideration for avoiding any confusion for my self (Wife Lagna is in Boarder) > > I am mainly using 2 charts D1 & D9, Vimshottari (Dwi-sapt- for curiosity as well as testing), Transit & Tithi Pravesha. > > I may not be able to provide analysis for all the dates here but will try to give in brief. > > Dates: - 26.1.1997 - Rahu / Sat / Venus 17.8.1998 - Rahu / Mer / Mer > 09.5.1997- Rahu / Sat / Moon 22.8.1999 - Rahu / Mer / Moon > > Now to broadly judge which Antardasha can give marriage, i have done following analysis - > > Saturn :- D1 - 4th & A7 lord placed in 5th with Rahu (Mahadasha nath), aspects 7th house. it also aspects UL cum 2nd house with Graha & rashi drashti. Saturn is also 7th lord from Moon lagna. > > D9- He is a yogakarka (4th & 5th lord) placed in 2nd house & more importantly exchanged house with 7th cum 2nd lord Mars. > > Mecury: - D1 - Malefic for Scorpio as a 8th & 11th lord palced in 3rd > D9 - Well placed in 9th in house and also placed in 7th from UL aspecting it with Rashi & Graha Drashti. > > The above factor indicates to me that Though both palnets are capable of giving marriage in their own Antara, Saturn is more potent to give result in comparison to Budha. > > The native was running his 30th year in 1997, hence Saturn has already played his part in delaying the marriage here. now saturn i his Pratyantar should bestow good results and also it aspects 7th & well placed w.r.t to Mahadasha nath. > > > Test with Transit : - Transit again clarifies what i have concluded above. Transit of Saturn & Guru during 1997 was from 5th & 3rd respectively (from d1). The main point here which immediately stuck my mind is that 7th house is activated by combined aspect of Saturn, Guru & Rahu in transit hence they should bring about the marriage in 1997. another point here is that though Ju is debiliated but exchanges house with Saturn during Transit and can give good transit results (pl. don't ask me source here. this is my understanding) > > Where as in 1998, The 7th house actiavtion is missing in transit. though Ju aspects 7th lord from 5th. > > Now the more Tricky question of identifying 26.1.1997 & 9.5.1997. > > 26.1.1997 suggest quickly and in a straight forward way the marriage because it comes under period of Rahu / Saturn / Venus. Saturn aspects 7th house & Venus is the lord of 7th placed in lagna & aspects 7th house. only problem is that it is placed in 6th house in D9. > > The other Prantyatar lord Moon (date 9.5.1997) is though badhaka is well placed in 10th with UL Jupiter creating Gajakesari yoga. Moon is very strongly palced in D9 because it has exchanged house with Ju which is a UL & A7 lord in D9. > > > Hence looking at Vimsh. dasha both Pratyantara are capable of giving marriage. > > checked with Transit - On 9th may, Venus is transiting 7th house which is own house & lagna lord mars from 10th house over natal moon. > > on 26th jan - Venus is transiting 2nd house from UL > > Transit is also not give me clear judgement. Though i feel 9th may has better transit here becuse in D9 Mars & Sun (7th & 11 th lords) are in exchane during transit on that day. > > Final try with TP Chart:- I am not discussing TP related to 26.1.1997 here. members can check for themselves. > > TP of 1997 falls on 28.1.1997, at 16.36.23 with Hora lord Venus placed in 7th with lagna lord Budha. in D9 Venus as 7th lord palced in UL in 9th house ----------check the Tithi Ashtottari - the date 9.5.1997 falls in Ven / Mer period & both are palced in 7th in TP Chart. > > Intrestingly enough, the Period in dwi-saptati is Rahu/Moon/Sat > > I am quite clear now. > > My judgment is that the marriage was performed on 9.05.1997 > > I am tired, bye for now > > regards, > > utpal > > > > Jeyaram <jeyaram009> wrote:Respected List Members, > > Following is the accurate data of a married couple: > HUSBAND: > DOB: 20.01.1968 > TOB: 02:55 HRS (between night of 19th and morning of 20th) > POB: Bangalore (Karnataka State, India) > > WIFE: > DOB: 23.06.1974 > TOB: 22:15 HRS > POB: Mysore (Karnataka State, India) > > Please assume that the birth time rectification is not required. > > Could you please tell which of the following was their marriage > date ? > option A) January 26, 1997 > option B) August 22, 1999 > option C) May 9, 1997 > option D) August 17, 1998 > > Your analysis would be a great learning experience for lots of list > members, including me. > > Request you to use as many versatile tools as possible like > Vimshottari Dasa, Rasi Narayana Dasa, Navamsa Narayana Dasa, Tithi > Pravesh Chakra, Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Varga Transit, Astakavarga, > Double Transit Principle, Sarvotobhadra Chakra, Sudharshan Chakra, > Prasna etc. > > The answer to this puzzle will be posted on May 24, 2005. > > Thanks & Respectful Regards > Jeyaram > > > > > > > Links > > > Gajapati/ > > > Gajapati > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Discover > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. 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Guest guest Posted May 28, 2005 Report Share Posted May 28, 2005 Dear Jeyaram, Thank you for your encouraging words about the analysis and Sadesati. >sound logic based analysis< w.r.t to this line which you wrote, i wish to say that I work with PLC (Proggrammable Logic Controllers) all the time as it ia the key word of my profession ;-) any way it is said that "one Sparrow doesn't make a summer" (Aisa hi Kuchh tha na..) so let's move ahead and learn together by sharing without ego, prejudice & fear. best regards, Utpal Pathak vedic astrology, "Jeyaram" <jeyaram009> wrote: > Dear Utpal, > > Today I had the opportunity to go through your analysis in detail. I > must say it is not only excellent but a very systematic and sound > logic based analysis. It stands out for its simplicity and is > totally clutter-free. > > Congratulations once again and keep up the good work! > > Now that you are out of Sade-Sathi period, I wish you all success in > your astrological journey. > > Best Regards > Jeyaram > - - > > vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak > <vedic_pathak> wrote: > > Dear Jayaram, > > > > I am trying to answer your puzzle taking only Husband's chart in > to consideration for avoiding any confusion for my self (Wife Lagna > is in Boarder) > > > > I am mainly using 2 charts D1 & D9, Vimshottari (Dwi-sapt- for > curiosity as well as testing), Transit & Tithi Pravesha. > > > > I may not be able to provide analysis for all the dates here but > will try to give in brief. > > > > Dates: - 26.1.1997 - Rahu / Sat / Venus 17.8.1998 - Rahu / > Mer / Mer > > 09.5.1997- Rahu / Sat / Moon 22.8.1999 - > Rahu / Mer / Moon > > > > Now to broadly judge which Antardasha can give marriage, i have > done following analysis - > > > > Saturn :- D1 - 4th & A7 lord placed in 5th with Rahu (Mahadasha > nath), aspects 7th house. it also aspects UL cum 2nd house with > Graha & rashi drashti. Saturn is also 7th lord from Moon lagna. > > > > D9- He is a yogakarka (4th & 5th lord) placed in 2nd house & more > importantly exchanged house with 7th cum 2nd lord Mars. > > > > Mecury: - D1 - Malefic for Scorpio as a 8th & 11th lord palced in > 3rd > > D9 - Well placed in 9th in house and also placed in > 7th from UL aspecting it with Rashi & Graha Drashti. > > > > The above factor indicates to me that Though both palnets are > capable of giving marriage in their own Antara, Saturn is more > potent to give result in comparison to Budha. > > > > The native was running his 30th year in 1997, hence Saturn has > already played his part in delaying the marriage here. now saturn i > his Pratyantar should bestow good results and also it aspects 7th & > well placed w.r.t to Mahadasha nath. > > > > > > Test with Transit : - Transit again clarifies what i have > concluded above. Transit of Saturn & Guru during 1997 was from 5th > & 3rd respectively (from d1). The main point here which immediately > stuck my mind is that 7th house is activated by combined aspect of > Saturn, Guru & Rahu in transit hence they should bring about the > marriage in 1997. another point here is that though Ju is debiliated > but exchanges house with Saturn during Transit and can give good > transit results (pl. don't ask me source here. this is my > understanding) > > > > Where as in 1998, The 7th house actiavtion is missing in transit. > though Ju aspects 7th lord from 5th. > > > > Now the more Tricky question of identifying 26.1.1997 & > 9.5.1997. > > > > 26.1.1997 suggest quickly and in a straight forward way the > marriage because it comes under period of Rahu / Saturn / Venus. > Saturn aspects 7th house & Venus is the lord of 7th placed in lagna > & aspects 7th house. only problem is that it is placed in 6th house > in D9. > > > > The other Prantyatar lord Moon (date 9.5.1997) is though badhaka > is well placed in 10th with UL Jupiter creating Gajakesari yoga. > Moon is very strongly palced in D9 because it has exchanged house > with Ju which is a UL & A7 lord in D9. > > > > > > Hence looking at Vimsh. dasha both Pratyantara are capable of > giving marriage. > > > > checked with Transit - On 9th may, Venus is transiting 7th house > which is own house & lagna lord mars from 10th house over natal moon. > > > > on 26th jan - Venus is transiting 2nd house from UL > > > > Transit is also not give me clear judgement. Though i feel 9th may > has better transit here becuse in D9 Mars & Sun (7th & 11 th lords) > are in exchane during transit on that day. > > > > Final try with TP Chart:- I am not discussing TP related to > 26.1.1997 here. members can check for themselves. > > > > TP of 1997 falls on 28.1.1997, at 16.36.23 with Hora lord Venus > placed in 7th with lagna lord Budha. in D9 Venus as 7th lord palced > in UL in 9th house ----------check the Tithi Ashtottari - the date > 9.5.1997 falls in Ven / Mer period & both are palced in 7th in TP > Chart. > > > > Intrestingly enough, the Period in dwi-saptati is Rahu/Moon/Sat > > > > I am quite clear now. > > > > My judgment is that the marriage was performed on 9.05.1997 > > > > I am tired, bye for now > > > > regards, > > > > utpal > > > > > > > > Jeyaram <jeyaram009> wrote:Respected List Members, > > > > Following is the accurate data of a married couple: > > HUSBAND: > > DOB: 20.01.1968 > > TOB: 02:55 HRS (between night of 19th and morning of 20th) > > POB: Bangalore (Karnataka State, India) > > > > WIFE: > > DOB: 23.06.1974 > > TOB: 22:15 HRS > > POB: Mysore (Karnataka State, India) > > > > Please assume that the birth time rectification is not required. > > > > Could you please tell which of the following was their marriage > > date ? > > option A) January 26, 1997 > > option B) August 22, 1999 > > option C) May 9, 1997 > > option D) August 17, 1998 > > > > Your analysis would be a great learning experience for lots of list > > members, including me. > > > > Request you to use as many versatile tools as possible like > > Vimshottari Dasa, Rasi Narayana Dasa, Navamsa Narayana Dasa, Tithi > > Pravesh Chakra, Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Varga Transit, Astakavarga, > > Double Transit Principle, Sarvotobhadra Chakra, Sudharshan Chakra, > > Prasna etc. > > > > The answer to this puzzle will be posted on May 24, 2005. > > > > Thanks & Respectful Regards > > Jeyaram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > Gajapati/ > > > > > > Gajapati > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover > > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. 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