Re. Mani Subra....

Hello Mani and the List,

It has come to my attention again, the matter of the fact that I removed

Mani from the list. He is saying "you put me back on if you want me back

on".

Actually, I won't. If you want on, you send an email to the

address,

gjlist-

You can sign on if you want, and if everybody complains to me, then I'll

remove you. Which probably won't happen.

In the past, I did it for my own reasons, because so often you spoke in

such a way that "meat was OK". I know there are many on the list who eat

meat. I'm not an idiot. But few preach it. You have done that, or at

least defended it using typical twisted philosophy you hear in average

India.

I'm more in tune with high class India.

Now, due to depression over years, I hardly ever read the list. Take

note. I almost never do. So, it's not really going to affect me either

way. It will affect others. However, I am planning on coming back to

life soon, and when I do, I may care again more, about the content of

the list, which I think would be my more natural stance. I am down now.

This is not the norm.

So, I leave it to you. I have become more of a Celt lately. That means,

I deal with things as they come up, moreso than planning ahead. So, do

what you will, if I meet you sometime later and can't handle it, I will

act then on that.

I am finding more and more that both- I have to be open to others

teaching me, as well as pushing my truth through teaching others. It's a

strange balance. But this list is mine. That's still true. Always will

be true. And if I come back to more active energy levels, I will be more

present more likely.

I have changed some philosophically, but I still do not like meat eating

if it can be at all avoided and I feel good about encouraging it. The

human surrendering to the instinct and pure naturality of simply hunting

and killing randomly the way tigers do, or managed slaughter as now,

both, to me, seem beneath the higher possibilities for the human. Most

of the worlds leading thinkers of all ages agree with this. Defending

otherwise is folly, around me. That's not said in pride of my religious

or spiritual attainment, that harsh "around me" is said more as a

Kshatriya kindof mood- if I simply have the energy.

There are plenty of meat eaters, and stores for that, lists for that, in

fact, almost everywhere in the west, it's totally normal. So I'm working

to change that, Mani, and do not appreciate you introducing the contrary

on my list, so stay off it if you must do that, otherwise, discuss like

anybody else here. Don't act in such a way as to cause me to get all

fired up. Hows that?

But I'm not reading it these days. I only know something when someone

forwards it to me personally. Then I become aware.

I speak my truths plainly.

peace

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