Guest guest Report post Posted August 20, 2004 Swamin, This is a great info. Tks. But, if you compare this with our list and the evolution of Man, ours stand the scientific scrutiny. Dasan/Raghavan --- amshuman_k <amshuman_k wrote: > Dear list, > Here is the Iranian counterpart of ten incarnations > of Verethraghna: > (from Warharan Yasht of Khorda Avesta) > > 1. First coming: Wind > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him first, > running in > the shape of a strong, beautiful wind, made by > Mazda; he bore > the good Glory, made by Mazda, the Glory made by > Mazda, that is > both health and strength..." 14.2 > > 2. Second coming: Bull > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > second time, > running in the shape of a beautiful bull, with > yellow ears and > golden horns; upon whose horns floated the > well-shapen Strength, > and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.7 > > 3. Third coming: Horse > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > third time, running > in the shape of a white, beautiful horse, with > yellow ears and > a golden caparison; upon whose forehead floated the > well-shapen > Strength, and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.9 > > 4. Fourth coming: Camel > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > fourth time, > running in the shape of a burden-bearing camel, > sharp-toothed, > swift ...., stamping forwards, long-haired, and > living in the > abodes of men..." 14.11 > > 5. Fifth coming: Boar > "...'Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > fifth time, > running in the shape of a boar, opposing the foes, a > sharp-toothed > he-boar, a sharp-jawed boar, that kills at one > stroke, pursuing, > wrathful, with a dripping face, strong, and swift to > run, and > rushing all around..." 14.15 > > 6. Sixth coming: 15 year old young boy > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > sixth time, running > in the shape of a beautiful youth of fifteen, > shining, clear-eyed, > thin-heeled...." 14.17 > > 7. Seventh coming: Raven > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > seventh time, > running in the shape of a raven that ... below and > ... above, > and that is the swiftest of all birds, the lightest > of the flying > creatures..." 14.19 > > 8. Eight coming: Ram > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > eighth time, > running in the shape of a wild, beautiful ram, with > horns bent > round..." 14.23 > > 9. Ninth coming: Buck > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > ninth time, running > in the shape of a beautiful, fighting buck, with > sharp horns. > Thus did Verethraghna come, bearing the good Glory > made by Mazda, > the Glory made by Mazda...." 14.25 > > 10. Tenth coming: Man with sword of golden blad > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > tenth time, running > in the shape of a man, bright and beautiful, made by > Mazda: he > held a sword with a golden blade, inlaid with all > sorts of > ornaments..." 14.27 > > Regards, > Kasturi Rangan .K > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 21, 2004 Dear Bhagavathas, All are creations and evolutions of God. The saying " Aham BrahmAsmi" has a lot of meaning. All are incarnations of God, even us too. We all are his creations as a part of Maya Leela. I was once reading the biography of Swami Vivekananda. I came across this. On his first meeting with Sri Ramakrishna, Narendra(Swami Vivekananda before becoming Sanyasi) asks him , where he finds. Sri Ramakrishna replies "right in front of me". After a while , he says "in you and also in me, He is everywhere". Mysteries of mankind and inter-woven mysteries of evolution are really good to feel. Such info must be shared to know how Jnana itself has evolved in time. With kind regards Thuphal Vijayaraghava Dasan Vijaya Raghavan [svrvan] Fri 8/20/2004 9:49 AM ramanuja Cc: Re: [ramanuja] The ten incarnations Swamin, This is a great info. Tks. But, if you compare this with our list and the evolution of Man, ours stand the scientific scrutiny. Dasan/Raghavan --- amshuman_k <amshuman_k wrote: > Dear list, > Here is the Iranian counterpart of ten incarnations > of Verethraghna: > (from Warharan Yasht of Khorda Avesta) > > 1. First coming: Wind > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him first, > running in > the shape of a strong, beautiful wind, made by > Mazda; he bore > the good Glory, made by Mazda, the Glory made by > Mazda, that is > both health and strength..." 14.2 > > 2. Second coming: Bull > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > second time, > running in the shape of a beautiful bull, with > yellow ears and > golden horns; upon whose horns floated the > well-shapen Strength, > and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.7 > > 3. Third coming: Horse > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > third time, running > in the shape of a white, beautiful horse, with > yellow ears and > a golden caparison; upon whose forehead floated the > well-shapen > Strength, and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.9 > > 4. Fourth coming: Camel > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > fourth time, > running in the shape of a burden-bearing camel, > sharp-toothed, > swift ...., stamping forwards, long-haired, and > living in the > abodes of men..." 14.11 > > 5. Fifth coming: Boar > "...'Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > fifth time, > running in the shape of a boar, opposing the foes, a > sharp-toothed > he-boar, a sharp-jawed boar, that kills at one > stroke, pursuing, > wrathful, with a dripping face, strong, and swift to > run, and > rushing all around..." 14.15 > > 6. Sixth coming: 15 year old young boy > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > sixth time, running > in the shape of a beautiful youth of fifteen, > shining, clear-eyed, > thin-heeled...." 14.17 > > 7. Seventh coming: Raven > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > seventh time, > running in the shape of a raven that ... below and > ... above, > and that is the swiftest of all birds, the lightest > of the flying > creatures..." 14.19 > > 8. Eight coming: Ram > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > eighth time, > running in the shape of a wild, beautiful ram, with > horns bent > round..." 14.23 > > 9. Ninth coming: Buck > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > ninth time, running > in the shape of a beautiful, fighting buck, with > sharp horns. > Thus did Verethraghna come, bearing the good Glory > made by Mazda, > the Glory made by Mazda...." 14.25 > > 10. Tenth coming: Man with sword of golden blad > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > tenth time, running > in the shape of a man, bright and beautiful, made by > Mazda: he > held a sword with a golden blade, inlaid with all > sorts of > ornaments..." 14.27 > > Regards, > Kasturi Rangan .K > > > > > > > azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 23, 2004 Iyengar swami, My mail was specific on the evolution of life. If you see the avatarams closely you will see how the evolution is graphic painted from water to amphibian to man to super human. Regards/Vj --- vijay.iyengar wrote: > Dear Bhagavathas, > > All are creations and evolutions of God. > The saying " Aham BrahmAsmi" has a lot of > meaning. > > All are incarnations of God, even us too. > We all are his creations as a part of > Maya Leela. > > I was once reading the biography of > Swami Vivekananda. I came across this. > On his first meeting with Sri Ramakrishna, > Narendra(Swami Vivekananda before becoming > Sanyasi) asks him , where he finds. > Sri Ramakrishna replies "right in front of > me". After a while , he says "in you and also > in me, He is everywhere". > > Mysteries of mankind and inter-woven mysteries of > evolution are really good to feel. > Such info must be shared to know how Jnana itself > has > evolved in time. > > With kind regards > Thuphal Vijayaraghava Dasan > > > > Vijaya Raghavan [svrvan] > Fri 8/20/2004 9:49 AM > ramanuja > Cc: > Re: [ramanuja] The ten incarnations > > Swamin, > > This is a great info. Tks. > > But, if you compare this with our list and the > evolution of Man, ours stand the scientific > scrutiny. > > Dasan/Raghavan > --- amshuman_k <amshuman_k wrote: > > > Dear list, > > Here is the Iranian counterpart of ten > incarnations > > of Verethraghna: > > (from Warharan Yasht of Khorda Avesta) > > > > 1. First coming: Wind > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him > first, > > running in > > the shape of a strong, beautiful wind, made by > > Mazda; he bore > > the good Glory, made by Mazda, the Glory made by > > Mazda, that is > > both health and strength..." 14.2 > > > > 2. Second coming: Bull > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > second time, > > running in the shape of a beautiful bull, with > > yellow ears and > > golden horns; upon whose horns floated the > > well-shapen Strength, > > and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.7 > > > > 3. Third coming: Horse > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > third time, running > > in the shape of a white, beautiful horse, with > > yellow ears and > > a golden caparison; upon whose forehead floated > the > > well-shapen > > Strength, and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.9 > > > > 4. Fourth coming: Camel > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > fourth time, > > running in the shape of a burden-bearing camel, > > sharp-toothed, > > swift ...., stamping forwards, long-haired, and > > living in the > > abodes of men..." 14.11 > > > > 5. Fifth coming: Boar > > "...'Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > fifth time, > > running in the shape of a boar, opposing the foes, > a > > sharp-toothed > > he-boar, a sharp-jawed boar, that kills at one > > stroke, pursuing, > > wrathful, with a dripping face, strong, and swift > to > > run, and > > rushing all around..." 14.15 > > > > 6. Sixth coming: 15 year old young boy > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > sixth time, running > > in the shape of a beautiful youth of fifteen, > > shining, clear-eyed, > > thin-heeled...." 14.17 > > > > 7. Seventh coming: Raven > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > seventh time, > > running in the shape of a raven that ... below and > > ... above, > > and that is the swiftest of all birds, the > lightest > > of the flying > > creatures..." 14.19 > > > > 8. Eight coming: Ram > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > eighth time, > > running in the shape of a wild, beautiful ram, > with > > horns bent > > round..." 14.23 > > > > 9. Ninth coming: Buck > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > ninth time, running > > in the shape of a beautiful, fighting buck, with > > sharp horns. > > Thus did Verethraghna come, bearing the good Glory > > made by Mazda, > > the Glory made by Mazda...." 14.25 > > > > 10. Tenth coming: Man with sword of golden blad > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > tenth time, running > > in the shape of a man, bright and beautiful, made > by > > Mazda: he > > held a sword with a golden blade, inlaid with all > > sorts of > > ornaments..." 14.27 > > > > Regards, > > Kasturi Rangan .K > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam > > Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 31, 2004 Dear Bhagavathas this information is very good...... thankyou very much jai srimannarayana vijay.iyengar wrote: Dear Bhagavathas, All are creations and evolutions of God. The saying " Aham BrahmAsmi" has a lot of meaning. All are incarnations of God, even us too. We all are his creations as a part of Maya Leela. I was once reading the biography of Swami Vivekananda. I came across this. On his first meeting with Sri Ramakrishna, Narendra(Swami Vivekananda before becoming Sanyasi) asks him , where he finds. Sri Ramakrishna replies "right in front of me". After a while , he says "in you and also in me, He is everywhere". Mysteries of mankind and inter-woven mysteries of evolution are really good to feel. Such info must be shared to know how Jnana itself has evolved in time. With kind regards Thuphal Vijayaraghava Dasan Vijaya Raghavan [svrvan] Fri 8/20/2004 9:49 AM ramanuja Cc: Re: [ramanuja] The ten incarnations Swamin, This is a great info. Tks. But, if you compare this with our list and the evolution of Man, ours stand the scientific scrutiny. Dasan/Raghavan --- amshuman_k <amshuman_k wrote: > Dear list, > Here is the Iranian counterpart of ten incarnations > of Verethraghna: > (from Warharan Yasht of Khorda Avesta) > > 1. First coming: Wind > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him first, > running in > the shape of a strong, beautiful wind, made by > Mazda; he bore > the good Glory, made by Mazda, the Glory made by > Mazda, that is > both health and strength..." 14.2 > > 2. Second coming: Bull > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > second time, > running in the shape of a beautiful bull, with > yellow ears and > golden horns; upon whose horns floated the > well-shapen Strength, > and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.7 > > 3. Third coming: Horse > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > third time, running > in the shape of a white, beautiful horse, with > yellow ears and > a golden caparison; upon whose forehead floated the > well-shapen > Strength, and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.9 > > 4. Fourth coming: Camel > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > fourth time, > running in the shape of a burden-bearing camel, > sharp-toothed, > swift ...., stamping forwards, long-haired, and > living in the > abodes of men..." 14.11 > > 5. Fifth coming: Boar > "...'Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > fifth time, > running in the shape of a boar, opposing the foes, a > sharp-toothed > he-boar, a sharp-jawed boar, that kills at one > stroke, pursuing, > wrathful, with a dripping face, strong, and swift to > run, and > rushing all around..." 14.15 > > 6. Sixth coming: 15 year old young boy > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > sixth time, running > in the shape of a beautiful youth of fifteen, > shining, clear-eyed, > thin-heeled...." 14.17 > > 7. Seventh coming: Raven > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > seventh time, > running in the shape of a raven that ... below and > ... above, > and that is the swiftest of all birds, the lightest > of the flying > creatures..." 14.19 > > 8. Eight coming: Ram > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > eighth time, > running in the shape of a wild, beautiful ram, with > horns bent > round..." 14.23 > > 9. Ninth coming: Buck > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > ninth time, running > in the shape of a beautiful, fighting buck, with > sharp horns. > Thus did Verethraghna come, bearing the good Glory > made by Mazda, > the Glory made by Mazda...." 14.25 > > 10. Tenth coming: Man with sword of golden blad > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > tenth time, running > in the shape of a man, bright and beautiful, made by > Mazda: he > held a sword with a golden blade, inlaid with all > sorts of > ornaments..." 14.27 > > Regards, > Kasturi Rangan .K > > > > > > > azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam ramanuja/ ramanuja India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 31, 2004 It is indeed sad to see Mayavada being gloriously discussed in the Sri Vaishnava forum following Ramanuja Muni. Sivaramakrishna Mandapati <srimsrk wrote:Dear Bhagavathas this information is very good...... thankyou very much jai srimannarayana vijay.iyengar wrote: Dear Bhagavathas, All are creations and evolutions of God. The saying " Aham BrahmAsmi" has a lot of meaning. All are incarnations of God, even us too. We all are his creations as a part of Maya Leela. I was once reading the biography of Swami Vivekananda. I came across this. On his first meeting with Sri Ramakrishna, Narendra(Swami Vivekananda before becoming Sanyasi) asks him , where he finds. Sri Ramakrishna replies "right in front of me". After a while , he says "in you and also in me, He is everywhere". Mysteries of mankind and inter-woven mysteries of evolution are really good to feel. Such info must be shared to know how Jnana itself has evolved in time. With kind regards Thuphal Vijayaraghava Dasan Vijaya Raghavan [svrvan] Fri 8/20/2004 9:49 AM ramanuja Cc: Re: [ramanuja] The ten incarnations Swamin, This is a great info. Tks. But, if you compare this with our list and the evolution of Man, ours stand the scientific scrutiny. Dasan/Raghavan --- amshuman_k <amshuman_k wrote: > Dear list, > Here is the Iranian counterpart of ten incarnations > of Verethraghna: > (from Warharan Yasht of Khorda Avesta) > > 1. First coming: Wind > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him first, > running in > the shape of a strong, beautiful wind, made by > Mazda; he bore > the good Glory, made by Mazda, the Glory made by > Mazda, that is > both health and strength..." 14.2 > > 2. Second coming: Bull > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > second time, > running in the shape of a beautiful bull, with > yellow ears and > golden horns; upon whose horns floated the > well-shapen Strength, > and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.7 > > 3. Third coming: Horse > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > third time, running > in the shape of a white, beautiful horse, with > yellow ears and > a golden caparison; upon whose forehead floated the > well-shapen > Strength, and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.9 > > 4. Fourth coming: Camel > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > fourth time, > running in the shape of a burden-bearing camel, > sharp-toothed, > swift ...., stamping forwards, long-haired, and > living in the > abodes of men..." 14.11 > > 5. Fifth coming: Boar > "...'Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > fifth time, > running in the shape of a boar, opposing the foes, a > sharp-toothed > he-boar, a sharp-jawed boar, that kills at one > stroke, pursuing, > wrathful, with a dripping face, strong, and swift to > run, and > rushing all around..." 14.15 > > 6. Sixth coming: 15 year old young boy > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > sixth time, running > in the shape of a beautiful youth of fifteen, > shining, clear-eyed, > thin-heeled...." 14.17 > > 7. Seventh coming: Raven > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > seventh time, > running in the shape of a raven that ... below and > ... above, > and that is the swiftest of all birds, the lightest > of the flying > creatures..." 14.19 > > 8. Eight coming: Ram > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > eighth time, > running in the shape of a wild, beautiful ram, with > horns bent > round..." 14.23 > > 9. Ninth coming: Buck > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > ninth time, running > in the shape of a beautiful, fighting buck, with > sharp horns. > Thus did Verethraghna come, bearing the good Glory > made by Mazda, > the Glory made by Mazda...." 14.25 > > 10. Tenth coming: Man with sword of golden blad > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > tenth time, running > in the shape of a man, bright and beautiful, made by > Mazda: he > held a sword with a golden blade, inlaid with all > sorts of > ornaments..." 14.27 > > Regards, > Kasturi Rangan .K > > > > > > > azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam ramanuja/ ramanuja India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam ramanuja/ ramanuja Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Enter now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2004 Vimal kumar swami, It is not Mayavadha. If you see the report even a great soul like Ramakrishna said "HE IS IN YOU, IN ME INFACT EVERYWHERE". He dint say "I AM BRAHMA YOU ARE BRAHMA" Dasan/raghavan --- vimalkumar ranganathan <panardasan wrote: > It is indeed sad to see Mayavada being gloriously > discussed in the Sri Vaishnava forum following > Ramanuja Muni. > > Sivaramakrishna Mandapati <srimsrk > wrote:Dear Bhagavathas > > this information is very good...... > > thankyou very much > > jai srimannarayana > > vijay.iyengar wrote: > Dear Bhagavathas, > > All are creations and evolutions of God. > The saying " Aham BrahmAsmi" has a lot of > meaning. > > All are incarnations of God, even us too. > We all are his creations as a part of > Maya Leela. > > I was once reading the biography of > Swami Vivekananda. I came across this. > On his first meeting with Sri Ramakrishna, > Narendra(Swami Vivekananda before becoming > Sanyasi) asks him , where he finds. > Sri Ramakrishna replies "right in front of > me". After a while , he says "in you and also > in me, He is everywhere". > > Mysteries of mankind and inter-woven mysteries of > evolution are really good to feel. > Such info must be shared to know how Jnana itself > has > evolved in time. > > With kind regards > Thuphal Vijayaraghava Dasan > > > > Vijaya Raghavan [svrvan] > Fri 8/20/2004 9:49 AM > ramanuja > Cc: > Re: [ramanuja] The ten incarnations > > Swamin, > > This is a great info. Tks. > > But, if you compare this with our list and the > evolution of Man, ours stand the scientific > scrutiny. > > Dasan/Raghavan > --- amshuman_k <amshuman_k wrote: > > > Dear list, > > Here is the Iranian counterpart of ten > incarnations > > of Verethraghna: > > (from Warharan Yasht of Khorda Avesta) > > > > 1. First coming: Wind > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him > first, > > running in > > the shape of a strong, beautiful wind, made by > > Mazda; he bore > > the good Glory, made by Mazda, the Glory made by > > Mazda, that is > > both health and strength..." 14.2 > > > > 2. Second coming: Bull > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > second time, > > running in the shape of a beautiful bull, with > > yellow ears and > > golden horns; upon whose horns floated the > > well-shapen Strength, > > and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.7 > > > > 3. Third coming: Horse > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > third time, running > > in the shape of a white, beautiful horse, with > > yellow ears and > > a golden caparison; upon whose forehead floated > the > > well-shapen > > Strength, and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.9 > > > > 4. Fourth coming: Camel > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > fourth time, > > running in the shape of a burden-bearing camel, > > sharp-toothed, > > swift ...., stamping forwards, long-haired, and > > living in the > > abodes of men..." 14.11 > > > > 5. Fifth coming: Boar > > "...'Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > fifth time, > > running in the shape of a boar, opposing the foes, > a > > sharp-toothed > > he-boar, a sharp-jawed boar, that kills at one > > stroke, pursuing, > > wrathful, with a dripping face, strong, and swift > to > > run, and > > rushing all around..." 14.15 > > > > 6. Sixth coming: 15 year old young boy > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > sixth time, running > > in the shape of a beautiful youth of fifteen, > > shining, clear-eyed, > > thin-heeled...." 14.17 > > > > 7. Seventh coming: Raven > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > seventh time, > > running in the shape of a raven that ... below and > > ... above, > > and that is the swiftest of all birds, the > lightest > > of the flying > > creatures..." 14.19 > > > > 8. Eight coming: Ram > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > eighth time, > > running in the shape of a wild, beautiful ram, > with > > horns bent > > round..." 14.23 > > > > 9. Ninth coming: Buck > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > ninth time, running > > in the shape of a beautiful, fighting buck, with > > sharp horns. > > Thus did Verethraghna come, bearing the good Glory > > made by Mazda, > > the Glory made by Mazda...." 14.25 > > > > 10. Tenth coming: Man with sword of golden blad > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > tenth time, running > > in the shape of a man, bright and beautiful, made > by > > Mazda: he > > held a sword with a golden blade, inlaid with all > > sorts of > > ornaments..." 14.27 > > > > Regards, > > Kasturi Rangan .K > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam > > Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > === message truncated === Mail is new and improved - Check it out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2004 Swami Vijayaraghavan, While I concur with the idea, I don't agree to the fact that we have to cite Vivekananda who is in no way connected to our Sampradaya. He is one of the prominent proponents of Mayavada. Swami ManavALa mAmunikaL's words spring to my mind, "AzhwArgaLayum aruLicheyalgaLayum tAzhvA ninaippavargaL dhAm naragil vIzhwArgaL enru ninaithu nenjE eppozhudhum nee avar pAl senranuga koosi thiri". Given the fact that we don't have a pausity of achAryAs in our sampradayam, I personally feel there is no need to quote or cite anybody from other sampradayas, especially mayavAda. My personal opinion, kindly excuse for anything offensive. Dasan. Vijaya Raghavan <svrvan wrote: Vimal kumar swami, It is not Mayavadha. If you see the report even a great soul like Ramakrishna said "HE IS IN YOU, IN ME INFACT EVERYWHERE". He dint say "I AM BRAHMA YOU ARE BRAHMA" Dasan/raghavan --- vimalkumar ranganathan <panardasan wrote: > It is indeed sad to see Mayavada being gloriously > discussed in the Sri Vaishnava forum following > Ramanuja Muni. > > Sivaramakrishna Mandapati <srimsrk > wrote:Dear Bhagavathas > > this information is very good...... > > thankyou very much > > jai srimannarayana > > vijay.iyengar wrote: > Dear Bhagavathas, > > All are creations and evolutions of God. > The saying " Aham BrahmAsmi" has a lot of > meaning. > > All are incarnations of God, even us too. > We all are his creations as a part of > Maya Leela. > > I was once reading the biography of > Swami Vivekananda. I came across this. > On his first meeting with Sri Ramakrishna, > Narendra(Swami Vivekananda before becoming > Sanyasi) asks him , where he finds. > Sri Ramakrishna replies "right in front of > me". After a while , he says "in you and also > in me, He is everywhere". > > Mysteries of mankind and inter-woven mysteries of > evolution are really good to feel. > Such info must be shared to know how Jnana itself > has > evolved in time. > > With kind regards > Thuphal Vijayaraghava Dasan > > > > Vijaya Raghavan [svrvan] > Fri 8/20/2004 9:49 AM > ramanuja > Cc: > Re: [ramanuja] The ten incarnations > > Swamin, > > This is a great info. Tks. > > But, if you compare this with our list and the > evolution of Man, ours stand the scientific > scrutiny. > > Dasan/Raghavan > --- amshuman_k <amshuman_k wrote: > > > Dear list, > > Here is the Iranian counterpart of ten > incarnations > > of Verethraghna: > > (from Warharan Yasht of Khorda Avesta) > > > > 1. First coming: Wind > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him > first, > > running in > > the shape of a strong, beautiful wind, made by > > Mazda; he bore > > the good Glory, made by Mazda, the Glory made by > > Mazda, that is > > both health and strength..." 14.2 > > > > 2. Second coming: Bull > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > second time, > > running in the shape of a beautiful bull, with > > yellow ears and > > golden horns; upon whose horns floated the > > well-shapen Strength, > > and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.7 > > > > 3. Third coming: Horse > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > third time, running > > in the shape of a white, beautiful horse, with > > yellow ears and > > a golden caparison; upon whose forehead floated > the > > well-shapen > > Strength, and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.9 > > > > 4. Fourth coming: Camel > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > fourth time, > > running in the shape of a burden-bearing camel, > > sharp-toothed, > > swift ...., stamping forwards, long-haired, and > > living in the > > abodes of men..." 14.11 > > > > 5. Fifth coming: Boar > > "...'Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > fifth time, > > running in the shape of a boar, opposing the foes, > a > > sharp-toothed > > he-boar, a sharp-jawed boar, that kills at one > > stroke, pursuing, > > wrathful, with a dripping face, strong, and swift > to > > run, and > > rushing all around..." 14.15 > > > > 6. Sixth coming: 15 year old young boy > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > sixth time, running > > in the shape of a beautiful youth of fifteen, > > shining, clear-eyed, > > thin-heeled...." 14.17 > > > > 7. Seventh coming: Raven > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > seventh time, > > running in the shape of a raven that ... below and > > ... above, > > and that is the swiftest of all birds, the > lightest > > of the flying > > creatures..." 14.19 > > > > 8. Eight coming: Ram > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > eighth time, > > running in the shape of a wild, beautiful ram, > with > > horns bent > > round..." 14.23 > > > > 9. Ninth coming: Buck > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > ninth time, running > > in the shape of a beautiful, fighting buck, with > > sharp horns. > > Thus did Verethraghna come, bearing the good Glory > > made by Mazda, > > the Glory made by Mazda...." 14.25 > > > > 10. Tenth coming: Man with sword of golden blad > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > tenth time, running > > in the shape of a man, bright and beautiful, made > by > > Mazda: he > > held a sword with a golden blade, inlaid with all > > sorts of > > ornaments..." 14.27 > > > > Regards, > > Kasturi Rangan .K > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam > > Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > === message truncated === Mail is new and improved - Check it out! azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam ramanuja/ ramanuja New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2004 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya nama: Dear Sriman Raghavan, Humble praNAms to you. Probably you're right. I haven't read the complete works of Swami Vivekananda. But I remember one of his specific quote which is very beautiful. He said "No one can help anyone in this world. One can only serve others." One can help only when one has acquired something on his/her "own". When we don't create ourselves where is the question of helping others. Lot of times people use this word help as if they are doing a big favour for others. Basically these are all wrong knowledge. If I said something wrong please pardon me. AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam dAsAnu dAsI NC Nappinnai Quote for the day: Whenever I climb,I am follwed by a dog called Ego - Nietzsche ramanuja, Vijaya Raghavan <svrvan> wrote: > Vimal kumar swami, > > It is not Mayavadha. If you see the report even a > great soul like Ramakrishna said "HE IS IN YOU, IN ME > INFACT EVERYWHERE". > > He dint say "I AM BRAHMA YOU ARE BRAHMA" > > Dasan/raghavan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2004 vimal kumar swamin, Pls excuse me for that sense what I created in you. I did not intend that way. But you know why, even our own sons and daughters quote them, because of the availability of those litreture in cheap rates and due to the prominence they are given in the media. I am sorry, but still our wealth has not reached the masses. Dasan/raghavan --- vimalkumar ranganathan <panardasan wrote: > Swami Vijayaraghavan, > While I concur with > the idea, I don't agree to the fact that we have to > cite Vivekananda who is in no way connected to our > Sampradaya. He is one of the prominent proponents of > Mayavada. Swami ManavALa mAmunikaL's words spring to > my mind, "AzhwArgaLayum aruLicheyalgaLayum tAzhvA > ninaippavargaL dhAm naragil vIzhwArgaL enru ninaithu > nenjE eppozhudhum nee avar pAl senranuga koosi > thiri". > > Given the fact that > we don't have a pausity of achAryAs in our > sampradayam, I personally feel there is no need to > quote or cite anybody from other sampradayas, > especially mayavAda. My personal opinion, kindly > excuse for anything offensive. > > Dasan. > > Vijaya Raghavan <svrvan wrote: > Vimal kumar swami, > > It is not Mayavadha. If you see the report even a > great soul like Ramakrishna said "HE IS IN YOU, IN > ME > INFACT EVERYWHERE". > > He dint say "I AM BRAHMA YOU ARE BRAHMA" > > Dasan/raghavan > --- vimalkumar ranganathan <panardasan > wrote: > > > It is indeed sad to see Mayavada being gloriously > > discussed in the Sri Vaishnava forum following > > Ramanuja Muni. > > > > Sivaramakrishna Mandapati <srimsrk > > wrote:Dear Bhagavathas > > > > this information is very good...... > > > > thankyou very much > > > > jai srimannarayana > > > > vijay.iyengar wrote: > > Dear Bhagavathas, > > > > All are creations and evolutions of God. > > The saying " Aham BrahmAsmi" has a lot of > > meaning. > > > > All are incarnations of God, even us too. > > We all are his creations as a part of > > Maya Leela. > > > > I was once reading the biography of > > Swami Vivekananda. I came across this. > > On his first meeting with Sri Ramakrishna, > > Narendra(Swami Vivekananda before becoming > > Sanyasi) asks him , where he finds. > > Sri Ramakrishna replies "right in front of > > me". After a while , he says "in you and also > > in me, He is everywhere". > > > > Mysteries of mankind and inter-woven mysteries of > > evolution are really good to feel. > > Such info must be shared to know how Jnana itself > > has > > evolved in time. > > > > With kind regards > > Thuphal Vijayaraghava Dasan > > > > > > > > Vijaya Raghavan > [svrvan] > > Fri 8/20/2004 9:49 AM > > ramanuja > > Cc: > > Re: [ramanuja] The ten incarnations > > > > Swamin, > > > > This is a great info. Tks. > > > > But, if you compare this with our list and the > > evolution of Man, ours stand the scientific > > scrutiny. > > > > Dasan/Raghavan > > --- amshuman_k <amshuman_k wrote: > > > > > Dear list, > > > Here is the Iranian counterpart of ten > > incarnations > > > of Verethraghna: > > > (from Warharan Yasht of Khorda Avesta) > > > > > > 1. First coming: Wind > > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him > > first, > > > running in > > > the shape of a strong, beautiful wind, made by > > > Mazda; he bore > > > the good Glory, made by Mazda, the Glory made by > > > Mazda, that is > > > both health and strength..." 14.2 > > > > > > 2. Second coming: Bull > > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > > second time, > > > running in the shape of a beautiful bull, with > > > yellow ears and > > > golden horns; upon whose horns floated the > > > well-shapen Strength, > > > and Victory, beautiful of form..." 14.7 > > > > > > 3. Third coming: Horse > > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > > third time, running > > > in the shape of a white, beautiful horse, with > > > yellow ears and > > > a golden caparison; upon whose forehead floated > > the > > > well-shapen > > > Strength, and Victory, beautiful of form..." > 14.9 > > > > > > 4. Fourth coming: Camel > > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > > fourth time, > > > running in the shape of a burden-bearing camel, > > > sharp-toothed, > > > swift ...., stamping forwards, long-haired, and > > > living in the > > > abodes of men..." 14.11 > > > > > > 5. Fifth coming: Boar > > > "...'Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him > the > > > fifth time, > > > running in the shape of a boar, opposing the > foes, > > a > > > sharp-toothed > > > he-boar, a sharp-jawed boar, that kills at one > > > stroke, pursuing, > > > wrathful, with a dripping face, strong, and > swift > > to > > > run, and > > > rushing all around..." 14.15 > > > > > > 6. Sixth coming: 15 year old young boy > > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > > sixth time, running > > > in the shape of a beautiful youth of fifteen, > > > shining, clear-eyed, > > > thin-heeled...." 14.17 > > > > > > 7. Seventh coming: Raven > > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > > seventh time, > > > running in the shape of a raven that ... below > and > > > ... above, > > > and that is the swiftest of all birds, the > > lightest > > > of the flying > > > creatures..." 14.19 > > > > > > 8. Eight coming: Ram > > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > > eighth time, > > > running in the shape of a wild, beautiful ram, > > with > > > horns bent > > > round..." 14.23 > > > > > > 9. Ninth coming: Buck > > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > > ninth time, running > > > in the shape of a beautiful, fighting buck, with > > > sharp horns. > > > Thus did Verethraghna come, bearing the good > Glory > > > made by Mazda, > > > the Glory made by Mazda...." 14.25 > > > > > > 10. Tenth coming: Man with sword of golden blad > > > "...Verethraghna, made by Ahura, came to him the > > > tenth time, running > > > in the shape of a man, bright and beautiful, > made > > by > > > Mazda: he > > > held a sword with a golden blade, inlaid with > all > === message truncated === Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
