Guest guest Report post Posted October 21, 2003 Adiyen Regarding the nature of Param Padam a fabulous definition is given in Katha Upanishad: 10-11. When the five sensestogether with the mind cease (from their externalised activities) and the intellect itself remains tranquil, that, they say, is the highest state (Paramam Padam). This state can be realised through meditation not through discussion, argument and forming religio-political stances and being dogmatic. Param Padam is not a planet or place in the universe, it is a state of present being. Adiyen Sri Ram Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 21, 2003 The "Paramam padam" appearing in Rig Veda: The actual line is "Tad vishNo: paramam padam sadA pashyanti sUray: divIva chakshurAtatam". - "The sages constantly regard Vishnu's highest step, like an eye in the sky ?!". The context is very much different from what is implied in the recent posts. Vishnu in Rig Veda is famous for his three steps, which are equated with the movement of sun. Our traditional Indian bhashyakaras and Indology commentators interpret it so. Just exactly what movement is a matter of speculation. Opinions varies from daily movement of sun, through movement of sun through earth,heaven and firmament through annual movement of sun. This line talks about Vishnu's "third" step. From two other suktas, we know the following about vishnu's 3rd step - (a) It has a well of honey (b) Not even feathered birds dare to venture it (the previous line says that men look at Vishnu's first step with wonder, but the third step...) © Sages constantly "see" the third step. Regards,... ramanuja, purohit@b... wrote: > > > Adiyen > Regarding the nature of Param Padam a fabulous definition is given in Katha > Upanishad: > > 10-11. When the five sensestogether with the mind cease (from their > externalised activities) and the intellect itself remains tranquil, that, > they say, is the highest state (Paramam Padam). > > This state can be realised through meditation not through discussion, > argument and forming religio-political stances and being dogmatic. > > Param Padam is not a planet or place in the universe, it is a state of > present being. > > Adiyen > > Sri Ram Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 22, 2003 Dear Where in any pramAnas or commentry is parama padham stated as state of present being?? What does the term parama padham mean?? How have the commentators of different schools of thought explained the meaning and significance of this term?? I request the person who said that "para padham" is not a planet or place in the universe,(what do you mean by the term universe) it is a state of present being. to validate his "Statement" with pramaAnAs. Or is it his own understaning or expression?? If it is so he has every right to have such a view..as he has the liberty and freedom of speech thoughtane experssion.. But if expressed in a public forum please note others also have the right to express their views which may be sometimes drastically (but surely constructive) critical..replies and it applies to everyone who posts here. regards Venkat ramanuja, purohit@b... wrote: > > > Adiyen > Regarding the nature of Param Padam a fabulous definition is given in Katha > Upanishad: > > 10-11. When the five sensestogether with the mind cease (from their > externalised activities) and the intellect itself remains tranquil, that, > they say, is the highest state (Paramam Padam). > > This state can be realised through meditation not through discussion, > argument and forming religio-political stances and being dogmatic. > > Param Padam is not a planet or place in the universe, it is a state of > present being. > > Adiyen > > Sri Ram Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 24, 2003 Is it possible to attain that state when reciting Gayathri Japam? In particular, I wanted to understand how the mind can cease, during that Japam... Adiyen! Ramanuja Dasan! - purohit ramanuja Tuesday, October 21, 2003 2:00 PM [ramanuja] Paramam Padam Adiyen Regarding the nature of Param Padam a fabulous definition is given in Katha Upanishad: 10-11. When the five sensestogether with the mind cease (from their externalised activities) and the intellect itself remains tranquil, that, they say, is the highest state (Paramam Padam). This state can be realised through meditation not through discussion, argument and forming religio-political stances and being dogmatic. Param Padam is not a planet or place in the universe, it is a state of present being. Adiyen Sri Ram Sponsor azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
