(Mystery of the 5M) - to Vikram Vanam

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This is wrong according to Tantras and according to proper common sense.

Attraction to opposite sex should not be overcome, there is no need and moreover

if U do

so U degrade urself. Tantras teach that Passion and Love are essential for

spiritual life.

Human should not become passionless like stone .

na virAgAt paraM pApam - there is no greater sin than lack of passion

Chandamaharoshana-tantra

Love is the law, love under will.

A.

, vikram vanam <vikram_vanam2005>

wrote:

> HI To All

>

> From reading the mails on this topic, i observe We have forgotten the goal of

using

tantric

>

> means to propiate the Divinity

>

> It is to overcome our basic instinct to feel attracted towards the opposite

sex ( and not

the

>

> same sex) and regard the opposite sex as the divinity personified

Arjuna wrote:

"This is wrong according to Tantras and according to proper common sense.

Attraction to opposite sex should not be overcome, there is no need and moreover

if U do

so U degrade urself. Tantras teach that Passion and Love are essential for

spiritual life.

Human should not become passionless like stone .

na virAgAt paraM pApam - there is no greater sin than lack of passion

Chandamaharoshana-tantra"

I agree wholeheartdely! And apparently also Taoism as Jolan Chang write in his

book The Tao of Love and Sex:

"A taoist usually cherish an endless love to universe and all living. Every form

of destruction or annhilation is to the taoist an evil which must be prevented

.... (taoism) does not demand that we must give up earthly or heavenly pleasures

.... neither a denial of desire - as the need of beatuy in form of sound, smell,

taste, touch and sex - which almost all schools of buddhism do. Instead Taoism

advice us to enjoy fully earthly and heavenly pleasures ... these are united in

the ecstacy by a taoist as he then is united with universe - his expression of

God."

These words picture my religon of life.

Regards

Lars

Hi,

IMHO the point of all sadhana/tantra/mantra etc is to

take us to a stage where gold or stone mean the same.

Somewhere along the line while going towards this

state, we'll probably pass a state where passions no

longer control us instead we'll do something bcos we

have to do it and be dispassionate abt it be it

relationship with the opp sex,money,whatever.

regds

--- Lars Hedström <lars wrote:

Arjuna wrote:

"This is wrong according to Tantras and according to

proper common sense.

Attraction to opposite sex should not be overcome,

there is no need and moreover if U do

so U degrade urself. Tantras teach that Passion and

Love are essential for spiritual life.

Human should not become passionless like stone .

na virAgAt paraM pApam - there is no greater sin than

lack of passion

Chandamaharoshana-tantra"

I agree wholeheartdely! And apparently also Taoism as

Jolan Chang write in his book The Tao of Love and Sex:

"A taoist usually cherish an endless love to universe

and all living. Every form of destruction or

annhilation is to the taoist an evil which must be

prevented ... (taoism) does not demand that we must

give up earthly or heavenly pleasures ... neither a

denial of desire - as the need of beatuy in form of

sound, smell, taste, touch and sex - which almost all

schools of buddhism do. Instead Taoism advice us to

enjoy fully earthly and heavenly pleasures ... these

are united in the ecstacy by a taoist as he then is

united with universe - his expression of God."

These words picture my religon of life.

Regards

Lars