Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Dear Murthy,  First of all, sorry to hear such experience of yours. Being a devotee and regular visitor of Ashram, i would like to share my feelings on this topic and definitely not reply or answer to your email.  I see the root cause of the issue may be due to some over enthusiasm of the in experienced volunteer/organizer (i mean the person who spoke with you) to explain you about the Ashram activities and the ways to get benefits of the various sevas and need not be really to over burden with monetary related issues.  As Swamiji says, Ashram is kind of Supermarket wherein you get everything that suits for everyone and we can just pick up only what we need. The list mentioned by you is definitely unique to DATTAPEETHAM like Datta Seva or Ammavodi or others. Materialistic is the way we start with to get into spiritual ways and i feel spiritualism may not be readily available.  I also saw some mails from SDHS groups and other groups in the internet as and when they have some information about change in programmes. Volunteers are doing their best to keep all the people aware of the changes and other information. Hope your mail will help them to put more effort in streamlining these.  Finally, what i want to share with you is do trust, this is one of the unwanted experience you had. Request you to share your thoughts with the local organizers and they will definitely be more than happy to see that these things will be explained in more sophisticated manner from next time.  Also, rest assured you can keep your focus on SWAMIJI and the benefits of these things will be visible in a positive manner.  Please note that these are just few of my feelings as a devotee of Sri Swamiji.  Sri Guru Datta Harish   --- On Sun, 3/21/10, uppaluru murthy <uppalurusm wrote: uppaluru murthy <uppalurusm Fw: darshan of swamiji jaigurudatta Sunday, March 21, 2010, 7:11 PM  ----- Forwarded Message ---- uppaluru murthy <uppalurusm (AT) (DOT) co.in> jayagurudatta Sun, 21 March, 2010 10:07:23 PM darshan of swamiji dear sir, of late my thinking is changing and it is something different. whenever i try to go and have darshan of swamiji, i am a bit unwilling to hear from organisers that you participate in this pooja or participate in that homam or some one say you contribute something towards dattaseva or you contribute something to amma vodi or contribute to earthquake victims or for veda pathasala or become a member in saswatha seva or pada pooja or house visit and so on so forth. i am really getting confused with this type repeated appeals constantly reminded for something or other. people who collect towards some seva from devotees do not tell any change in programme or any decisions taken for giving prasadm and mode of giving prasadam.it appears their job is over when once the ticket is disposed and their target is over.they are not to be seen next minute.i think some change should be brought in organising any ticket selling , call it host committee or any thing else.the devotee should be informed of mode of giving prasadam whether swamiji gives or somebody will give etc. we donot expect that for everything swamiji should involve but it could made more transperant by organisers in a free and frank way.we just come , have darshan of swamiji at distance and go away. there is not any kind of motivation avilable to ordinary devotees. persons who do not participate in any seva are informed curtly to have food and go as if they have come only to take food.this is told in such a way that going away for food will help distributing prasams in a peaceful way. it is giving  me a feeling that the ashramam is getting highly materialistic. somehow when we go on search of spiritual happiness , these reminders are working against us in a negative way. if a devotee is happy at his mental level, he will go on his own and do something on his own. i do not know how these things are. some change needs to be brought out and take example of other peethams or mutts where people make no sound of money. can anyone share my feelings and tell what he feels . u s murthy   ____________ _________ _________ __ The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Hi, Insipite of all the stuff you mentioned I would keep going to Swamiji. Inspite of not having the stuff you have mentioned about in other ashrams, I did not find happiness in those ashrams/mutts. ________________________________ uppaluru murthy <uppalurusm jaigurudatta Mon, March 22, 2010 12:11:25 AM Fw: darshan of swamiji  ----- Forwarded Message ---- uppaluru murthy <uppalurusm (AT) (DOT) co.in> jayagurudatta Sun, 21 March, 2010 10:07:23 PM darshan of swamiji dear sir, of late my thinking is changing and it is something different. whenever i try to go and have darshan of swamiji, i am a bit unwilling to hear from organisers that you participate in this pooja or participate in that homam or some one say you contribute something towards dattaseva or you contribute something to amma vodi or contribute to earthquake victims or for veda pathasala or become a member in saswatha seva or pada pooja or house visit and so on so forth. i am really getting confused with this type repeated appeals constantly reminded for something or other. people who collect towards some seva from devotees do not tell any change in programme or any decisions taken for giving prasadm and mode of giving prasadam.it appears their job is over when once the ticket is disposed and their target is over.they are not to be seen next minute.i think some change should be brought in organising any ticket selling , call it host committee or any thing else.the devotee should be informed of mode of giving prasadam whether swamiji gives or somebody will give etc. we donot expect that for everything swamiji should involve but it could made more transperant by organisers in a free and frank way.we just come , have darshan of swamiji at distance and go away. there is not any kind of motivation avilable to ordinary devotees. persons who do not participate in any seva are informed curtly to have food and go as if they have come only to take food.this is told in such a way that going away for food will help distributing prasams in a peaceful way. it is giving  me a feeling that the ashramam is getting highly materialistic. somehow when we go on search of spiritual happiness , these reminders are working against us in a negative way. if a devotee is happy at his mental level, he will go on his own and do something on his own. i do not know how these things are. some change needs to be brought out and take example of other peethams or mutts where people make no sound of money. can anyone share my feelings and tell what he feels . u s murthy   ____________ _________ _________ __ The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Jai Guru Datta They are fortunate who have participated in one  seva or the other. To swamiji, there is no difference between a donor or non donor. If a person is contributing something towards a seva then it will help that person in getting rid of his karma fast. Volunteer are there to help the devotees in all ways. Volunteers are doing the service taking leave from office / off colleges. And their services are remarkable.  In the olden days rishis used to do penance to see God. What have we done to see God? Nothing. But we are able to see living God (Lord Dattatreya) in our swamiji. If organizers are asking us to participate in a seva or other, then it is for our betterment.  A person who contributes might have darshan from near and a person who has not contributed might have darshan from far off distance. It is our illusion that swamiji is blessing one and leaving other. To Swamiji both are same. He listens to the both the prayers delivered by them.  Sir, Please come to Dundigal Ashram or ashrams during Sundays. Annaprasadam is same for a devotee and a volunteer. All devotees are requested to have annaprasadam of Swamiji and go. You will not find any difference between the devotees and volunteers. Organizers are doing enormous service towards upkeep of Ashrams. Devotees should keep track of Swamiji’s programs by calling up nearby centers or Ashrams.  If I had hurt you in any way, then please forgive me.  May Swamiji’s blessing be always with you.  Sri Guru Datta ----- Forwarded Message ---- uppaluru murthy <uppalurusm (AT) (DOT) co.in> jayagurudatta Sun, 21 March, 2010 10:07:23 PM darshan of swamiji dear sir, of late my thinking is changing and it is something different. whenever i try to go and have darshan of swamiji, i am a bit unwilling to hear from organisers that you participate in this pooja or participate in that homam or some one say you contribute something towards dattaseva or you contribute something to amma vodi or contribute to earthquake victims or for veda pathasala or become a member in saswatha seva or pada pooja or house visit and so on so forth. i am really getting confused with this type repeated appeals constantly reminded for something or other. people who collect towards some seva from devotees do not tell any change in programme or any decisions taken for giving prasadm and mode of giving prasadam.it appears their job is over when once the ticket is disposed and their target is over.they are not to be seen next minute.i think some change should be brought in organising any ticket selling , call it host committee or any thing else.the devotee should be informed of mode of giving prasadam whether swamiji gives or somebody will give etc. we donot expect that for everything swamiji should involve but it could made more transperant by organisers in a free and frank way.we just come , have darshan of swamiji at distance and go away. there is not any kind of motivation avilable to ordinary devotees. persons who do not participate in any seva are informed curtly to have food and go as if they have come only to take food.this is told in such a way that going away for food will help distributing prasams in a peaceful way. it is giving  me a feeling that the ashramam is getting highly materialistic. somehow when we go on search of spiritual happiness , these reminders are working against us in a negative way. if a devotee is happy at his mental level, he will go on his own and do something on his own. i do not know how these things are. some change needs to be brought out and take example of other peethams or mutts where people make no sound of money. can anyone share my feelings and tell what he feels . u s murthy   ____________ _________ _________ __ The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Jaya Guru Datta, It is no coincidence that I was reading God Word yesterday night and Swamiji says- I dont need lakshmi, lakshmi will come to me even if I am sitting in a forest, people should do seva physically in the ashramas " . This sums up the tireless work that innumerable devotees in the form of volunteers and organizers are serving physically to ensure that other devotees can have swamiji's darshan without any problem. And coming to sevas and donations to organize successful programs, it is Swamiji's sankalpam to bless all devotees- to wash away their karma, and nothing else. Let us not be mistaken that if we have money and are ready to participate in sevas and offer donations- we will get a chance to do the same easily. My own personal experience shows that this is not true- everything is swamiji's will and unless we rise up to that level - even this opportunity of participating in sevas will not come even of one has a lot of money.. And as Raghuveer garu rightly said, for swamiji there is no difference between donor/non-donor,rich/poor, and any such differentiation that exists for us normal humans. Sri Guru Datta, Shachindra Rajavaram On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Raghuveer Pamidimukkala < rnalpamidi wrote: > > > > > Jai Guru Datta > > They are fortunate who have participated in one seva or the other. To > swamiji, there is no difference between a donor or non donor. If a person is > contributing something towards a seva then it will help that person in > getting rid of his karma fast. Volunteer are there to help the devotees in > all ways. Volunteers are doing the service taking leave from office / off > colleges. And their services are remarkable. > > In the olden days rishis used to do penance to see God. What have we done > to see God? Nothing. But we are able to see living God (Lord Dattatreya) in > our swamiji. If organizers are asking us to participate in a seva or other, > then it is for our betterment. > > A person who contributes might have darshan from near and a person who has > not contributed might have darshan from far off distance. It is our illusion > that swamiji is blessing one and leaving other. To Swamiji both are same. He > listens to the both the prayers delivered by them. > > Sir, Please come to Dundigal Ashram or ashrams during Sundays. Annaprasadam > is same for a devotee and a volunteer. All devotees are requested to have > annaprasadam of Swamiji and go. You will not find any difference between the > devotees and volunteers. Organizers are doing enormous service towards > upkeep of Ashrams. Devotees should keep track of Swamiji’s programs by > calling up nearby centers or Ashrams. > > If I had hurt you in any way, then please forgive me. > > May Swamiji’s blessing be always with you. > > Sri Guru Datta > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > uppaluru murthy <uppalurusm (AT) (DOT) co.in> > jayagurudatta > Sun, 21 March, 2010 10:07:23 PM > darshan of swamiji > > dear sir, > > of late my thinking is changing and it is something different. > > whenever i try to go and have darshan of swamiji, i am a bit unwilling to > hear from organisers that you participate in this pooja or participate in > that homam or some one say you contribute something towards dattaseva or you > contribute something to amma vodi or contribute to earthquake victims or for > veda pathasala or become a member in saswatha seva or pada pooja or house > visit and so on so forth. > > i am really getting confused with this type repeated appeals constantly > reminded for something or other. > > people who collect towards some seva from devotees do not tell any change > in programme or any decisions taken for giving prasadm and mode of giving > prasadam.it appears their job is over when once the ticket is disposed and > their target is over.they are not to be seen next minute.i think some change > should be brought in organising any ticket selling , call it host committee > or any thing else.the devotee should be informed of mode of giving prasadam > whether swamiji gives or somebody will give etc. > > we donot expect that for everything swamiji should involve but it could > made more transperant by organisers in a free and frank way.we just come , > have darshan of swamiji at distance and go away. there is not any kind of > motivation avilable to ordinary devotees. > persons who do not participate in any seva are informed curtly to have food > and go as if they have come only to take food.this is told in such a way > that going away for food will help distributing prasams in a peaceful way. > > it is giving me a feeling that the ashramam is getting highly > materialistic. somehow when we go on search of spiritual happiness , these > reminders are working against us in a negative way. > > if a devotee is happy at his mental level, he will go on his own and do > something on his own. > > i do not know how these things are. some change needs to be brought out and > take example of other peethams or mutts where people make no sound of money. > > can anyone share my feelings and tell what he feels . > > u s murthy > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Dear Shri Murthy garu, I donot know anything about you but your disappointment is palpable and understandable. I understand that you are badly hurt..It is indeed a bad experience.We are deeply sorry for the hurt caused by datta family members to you.It is very good that you have shared it with this group.It is good to get feed back so that unintentional hurt could be removed. Sri Swamiji will feel very bad that such agony has been caused to you because of a few persons with whom you interacted.They would have been under some pressure of work perhaps. Even then, rudeness is not at all justifiable.Sometimes everyone donot know everything about the programmes and donot want to admit and hence answer people rudely. If you look at it another way, this bad experience may somehow take you closer to Sri Swamiji one day. I wish you persuade yourself to understand the ashram activities by associating with it more and more. You may interact with shri Narayana Rao garu and give your sugesstions. Sri Swamiji's programme and other details are always available with Shri Narayana Rao garu of the SRI DATTA HUMANE SERVICE. He is a very dedicated volunteer and a helpful person. You can mail him at mail. His contact number is : Sri K.Narayan Rao Overall Incharge Phone: 98490-25470 Many regards Mrs Srilakshmi Prasaad Vice president SDHS On 3/22/10, uppaluru murthy <uppalurusm wrote: > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > uppaluru murthy <uppalurusm <uppalurusm%40.co.in>> > jayagurudatta <jayagurudatta%40> > Sun, 21 March, 2010 10:07:23 PM > darshan of swamiji > > dear sir, > > of late my thinking is changing and it is something different. > > whenever i try to go and have darshan of swamiji, i am a bit unwilling to > hear from organisers that you participate in this pooja or participate in > that homam or some one say you contribute something towards dattaseva or you > contribute something to amma vodi or contribute to earthquake victims or for > veda pathasala or become a member in saswatha seva or pada pooja or house > visit and so on so forth. > > i am really getting confused with this type repeated appeals constantly > reminded for something or other. > > people who collect towards some seva from devotees do not tell any change > in programme or any decisions taken for giving prasadm and mode of giving > prasadam.it appears their job is over when once the ticket is disposed and > their target is over.they are not to be seen next minute.i think some change > should be brought in organising any ticket selling , call it host committee > or any thing else.the devotee should be informed of mode of giving prasadam > whether swamiji gives or somebody will give etc. > > we donot expect that for everything swamiji should involve but it could > made more transperant by organisers in a free and frank way.we just come , > have darshan of swamiji at distance and go away. there is not any kind of > motivation avilable to ordinary devotees. > persons who do not participate in any seva are informed curtly to have food > and go as if they have come only to take food.this is told in such a way > that going away for food will help distributing prasams in a peaceful way. > > it is giving me a feeling that the ashramam is getting highly > materialistic. somehow when we go on search of spiritual happiness , these > reminders are working against us in a negative way. > > if a devotee is happy at his mental level, he will go on his own and do > something on his own. > > i do not know how these things are. some change needs to be brought out and > take example of other peethams or mutts where people make no sound of money. > > can anyone share my feelings and tell what he feels . > > u s murthy > > > ________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
