Dayamrita/ Kamal Bijlani

[Guest guest]

Dayamrita is truly a kind soul, he has helped me several times around all of

these situations. He is humble and tries very hard to follow a model of humility

and faith. He is trusting of devotees who are seeking help beyond the ordinary

and truly tries to follow his heart. He tried to help me find Kamal Bijlani in

2008 when I was very sick and had just come out of the hospital and needed to

speak to Ammachi and to Kamal while she was in Europe and when my father wanted

to meet to Kamal. Kamal, did not respond to any of this and was not at all

interested in trusting and offering to help upon Dayamrita's request, which

should have been that of a superior. Kamal did speak about it to me

personally once he arrived in US that tour and told me of these emails, but he

decided himself what was important and what needed Ammachi's attention. He was

also not kind and gracious to meet my father who was not at all in judgment, but

out of love accompanied me to

Ammachi's program during that tour because I was very sick. My father just

wanted to meet a friend whom I cared for. He is usually not interested in such

things but came with me to Ammachi's program so that I could speak with both

Ammachi and Kamal. We gave our time to this situation rather then spending

Thanksgiving with our extended family on the East Coast of 50 people. This is

the kind of treatment people are being subjected to with certain Bramachari's or

long-time devotees who have hopefully learned appropriate love and compassion by

being near a Guru for over 10 years and truly want to serve the public with

humility.

 

Bramachari's are not, from my understanding, in a superior position to

consciously choose or due away with the request of a Swami.

 

In Peace,

S

 

 

[Guest guest]

Stacee,

Thank you for telling us your story. I think now if anyone out there

who has read this, had any idea they might start up a relationship with

one of Amma's bramachari's, they have been forewarned...But honestly

Stacee, i have had the same hard hearted treatment from other young men

in my life too. When they are done with a relationship, they are

d-o-n-e... Forgive me for saying this but if he really loved you, the

marriage kind of love, nothing would talk him out of being with you. It

was a mis-take. Everyone makes mistakes. I am sure Amma could see that.

Have you ever thought that maybe Amma saved you from a much bigger

heartbreak in the long run? Maybe you should be thanking Her for keeping

you from from getting deeper and deeper into a relationship with a young

man who was not right for you. Try to let it go and heal your heart.

love, mare

 

 

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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:43:17 -0800 (PST) Stacee Kramer

<stacee.kramer writes:

> Dayamrita is truly a kind soul, he has helped me several times around

> all of these situations. He is humble and tries very hard to follow

> a model of humility and faith. He is trusting of devotees who are

> seeking help beyond the ordinary and truly tries to follow his

> heart. He tried to help me find Kamal Bijlani in 2008 when I was

> very sick and had just come out of the hospital and needed to speak

> to Ammachi and to Kamal while she was in Europe and when my father

> wanted to meet to Kamal. Kamal, did not respond to any of this and

> was not at all interested in trusting and offering to help upon

> Dayamrita's request, which should have been that of a superior.

> Kamal did speak about it to me personally once he arrived in US that

> tour and told me of these emails, but he decided himself what was

> important and what needed Ammachi's attention. He was also not kind

> and gracious to meet my father who was not at all in judgment, but

> out of love accompanied me to

> Ammachi's program during that tour because I was very sick. My

> father just wanted to meet a friend whom I cared for. He is usually

> not interested in such things but came with me to Ammachi's program

> so that I could speak with both Ammachi and Kamal. We gave our time

> to this situation rather then spending Thanksgiving with our

> extended family on the East Coast of 50 people. This is the kind of

> treatment people are being subjected to with certain Bramachari's or

> long-time devotees who have hopefully learned appropriate love and

> compassion by being near a Guru for over 10 years and truly want to

> serve the public with humility.

>

> Bramachari's are not, from my understanding, in a superior position

> to consciously choose or due away with the request of a Swami.

>

> In Peace,

> S

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[Guest guest]

You're forgetting that when people get involved in such situations, maybe not a

relationship with a staff member, but just a fellow devotee, many times the

feelings are overwhelming. Not desires, desires are not the same as feelings.

I know from painful experience myself, that the overwhelming, the OVERWHELMING

feelings that people experience at the time is that it's meant to be, it's

Amma's Blessing for you, it's an exception to the rule(s)etc.

 

That's why it takes firm rules in place and people shouldn't say things like " I

feel Amma is telling me to do/say this or that. " Because the other person could

say the same and give the opposite answer. Who's right? Certainly feelings

don't decide if two can have equally strong opposite feelings for guidance, both

claiming Amma as the source.

 

That's why you don't go with feelings, no matter how manic and intense they may

be, no matter in or from the heart.

 

Besides, you still haven't touched on the bramachari's responsibilty in all

this, as I've always said " The org is always right " , no wonder no one learns,

because there's no mistakes to begin with.

 

Ammachi , Mary Ellen Robinson <mare3 wrote:

>

> (snip) I think now if anyone out there

> who has read this, had any idea they might start up a relationship with

> one of Amma's bramachari's, they have been forewarned...But honestly

> Stacee, i have had the same hard hearted treatment from other young men

> in my life too. When they are done with a relationship, they are

> d-o-n-e... Forgive me for saying this but if he really loved you, the

> marriage kind of love, nothing would talk him out of being with you. It

> was a mis-take. (snip)