Guest guest Report post Posted February 12, 2004 Dear All, Kavadi is so associated with Murugan and its inspiring to watch. Can anybody tell me what is the legend associated with kavadi? Also, what does carrying the kavadi symbolise? (I have heard about Idumban, but I'm quite blur about the whole story). Thank you"R.Sivaramakrishna Sharma" <dhandapani wrote: dhandapani , Ramesh kulandaivelu<rameshgounder> wrote:> > > > Message: 1> > Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:56:22 -0800 (PST)> > velu perumal <velumpiit>> > DEAR ALL> > > > Dear All,> > Vetrivel Muruganukku Arogara!> > Is there any pooja sulogam for praying GOD MURUGA...> > if it is tell me.....> > Thank you > > > > VELUSure there are many!So much that it will actually need a seperate compilation (justresources!). Imagine if all these need to be put together into a book!(it might - around a crore pages ......!)AnywayThere are some files in the website(http://in.geocities.com/arunagirinathar/) in the texts sections , intamil and sanskrit.Incase you want something more than that - check out the murugan.orgwebsite. Patrick seems to maintain a fairly large collection of slokas.Regards,Sivaramakrishnan Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 13, 2004 On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 10:49, Patricia Jay wrote: > Dear All, > Kavadi is so associated with Murugan and its inspiring to watch. Can anybody tell me what is the legend associated with kavadi? Also, what does carrying the kavadi symbolise? (I have heard about Idumban, but I'm quite blur about the whole story). > THere is a seperate section on the LEGEND of the KAVADI at the website - http://in.geocities.com/arunagirinathar/pazhani/kavadi.html Kavadi is of aeonic origin - which is impossible to date. I think even http://www.murugan.org has good resources on Kavadi. -- || Thiruchitrambalam || || Muruga Sharanam || With Regards, R. Sivaramakrishnan [http://in.geocities.com/arunagirinathar] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2004 "R. Sivaramakrishnan" <dhandapani wrote: On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 10:49, Patricia Jay wrote:> Dear All,> Kavadi is so associated with Murugan and its inspiring to watch. Can anybody tell me what is the legend associated with kavadi? Also, what does carrying the kavadi symbolise? (I have heard about Idumban, but I'm quite blur about the whole story).> THere is a seperate section on the LEGEND of the KAVADI at the website -http://in.geocities.com/arunagirinathar/pazhani/kavadi.htmlKavadi is of aeonic origin - which is impossible to date.I think even murugan.org has quite a bit resources on Kavadi.-- || Thiruchitrambalam |||| Muruga Sharanam ||With Regards,R. Sivaramakrishnan[http://in.geocities.com/arunagirinathar]thank u for ur kind informations India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Hi All.. Muruga Saranam Already a good information has been posted about the Legend of Kavadi by our moderator. As I have carried Kavadi twice to Palani from my native place, I would like to add my experience. I would state that Kavadi Prarthana is the most effective in Murugan Bhakthi. Many miracles happen by taking up and fulfilling Kavadi Prarthana. I know a person whose daughter had blood cancer. Its common knowledge that it cant be cured. But with all his total belief in the Lord he carried kavadi. As usal the Lord never betrays those who have total belief and involvement in Him. He helps those who surrender themselves to Him totally. His daughter has got completely cured and even after several years still hale and healthy. About to get married soon. There are many more such incidents like dumb people speaking, limping people walking properly etc.. Kavadi pilgrimage is in fact more meaningful in Bhakthi Yoga. As you go in a fasting like you do in Vanaprastha. With only two seamless clothes, not covering your upper body, without fearing hot sun or cold. Taking food offred by bhakthas like a saint. When you come back if you see that places where you stayed, slept and ate, you will be surprised how you didnt acquire any dissease. In normal life even if we travel from city to city, change of water bothers with cold and infection. But in this journey, really nothing affects. All this can happen only by the mercy of the Lord. For any problem we just pray and apply some thiruneeru (vibhuthi - the holy ash), and all problems disappear. Faith increases in this path. Apart from this all the spiritual experience we get in this fasting period of 45 days and the journey and other formalities of 20 days is really great. The bhajans include many devotional songs written by local poets which invokes group bhakthi. The Sacred scriptures like Thirupugazh or Kandar alangaram or Skandspurana are holy and powerful. They are pure and sacred in the words and description (sol sutham and ilakkana sutham - pure or proper words and accurate grammer). It is said that certain songs like Varukai pathigam in Selvamuthu kumarasamy pathigam is so powerful that if recited, Murugan Himself will be pleased and appear. But then these localised devotional songs written in simple language are also not less. These local poets use to assume Murugan as their own child or friend or mother or father and use to tell Him their problems like a complaining kid. And use to ask " when your son is suffering how you are happy with your lance and peacock on your hill " . Another one asks, Your bhaktha's who are in lakhs and lakhs may disturb your peace. I have a wonderful place here no one can disturb you. Why dont you stay in my heart. Though at first it may seem to be ignorance on the part of the poet as no one can disturb the peace of Lord as He Himself is the Peace, but little involvement will reveal that it is the knowledgible ignorance of the poet. Just a way of expressing Love towards Him. In another interesting one the poet asks, I have been praying to you right from the time my eyes were opened. I have been telling myself to wait for the arul of the six faces. But what me - a poor man can do if you run away at sighting me. I have been walking all my life to your holy abode, you should guide me in the right way. These kind of devotional songs enrich the entire pilgrimage and the simplicity of the local language involves us more in the Lord and His greatness. We are slowly drawn away from the material desires towards the Great Lord Himself. Other devotional songs sung in the journey pray to the Lord to stop us from this karmic cycle of birth-death, action-reaction and papa-punya and requesting Him to show way for reaching holy feet and enjoy the Bliss. May Lord Murugan bless all of us with Moksha the highest desire a man can have. Just to describe what Kavadi has and how we carry it: Kavadi has the main wooden rod made out of Aala Vizhudhu (dont know the english name for it. It is the hanging roots of the large Banyan like tree). This gives it the lightness. This is known as ThiruvaLa thandu which joins the two wooden plates on the front and back. The front one is called Vinayaka Palakai and the back one the Muruga Palakai. These plates are said to be kept under the soil for six months and then in well water for six months so that it becomes light. Some people carve these two plates to have the images of deities. Some keep it plain or some holy designs. Between these two plates the curved wodden rod runs and a frame is made upon this. Forgot the name of this part. Over this curved frame the cloth (usually with designs or symbols and stiched and designed borders) is laid atop. This cloth is known as pannangu. On the Main wooden rod (thiruvaLa thandu) at both the ends the Muthirai chembu (small brass pots) are arranged. Sambirani (oud) smoke is filled and then sarkarai (jaggery powder) which is the main ingradient of panchamritham is tightly filled into it. After filling it the seal (muthirai) is made with the holy ash. Through out this time arohara is chanted by people around. Once the seal is made it is believed that Lord has entered into it. The person who is carrying it should have gone through the strictest fasting procedures including not talking unnecessary things, not seeing bad. spending more time in puja and bhakthi. It is said that people without proper fasting wont be able to complete the Kavadi or are faced with serious difficulties during the pilgrimage. Sometimes even people who are weaker carry it with ease, where as stronger people with good physique and experience in walking suffer. If one feels that he is carrying his kavadi by his own strength, even the lighter kavadi feels heavier for him. For some even the heaviest kavadi appears lighter. So it is advised that one should not estimate whether a kavadi is small or big or heavy or light as all carry it only by the wish and mercy of the Lord. When all reach the hill top the sarkarai is removed from the brass pots and is sent for abhishekam for the Lord. Then it is returned and Panchamritham is made out of that Sarkarai. This Panchamritham is distributed to the Kavadi holders and is filled back in the same brass pots. These brass pots are tied back to the Kavadi and is carried back (the return journey is also by walk only) to the place where the pilgrimage started. At home in the prayer room the panchamritham is consumed and the family members also distributed. Then only the fasting comes to an end. More people carry Kavadi, more the community and the country will get benefitted. Many people who take kavadi feel like taking it every year or atleast associate with it some way or the other. Many people supply food and other essential items throughout to the bhakthas. They do so many services to them. WitH Best Regards Meyyappan dhandapani , " R. Sivaramakrishnan " <dhandapani@s...> wrote: > On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 10:49, Patricia Jay wrote: > > Dear All, > > Kavadi is so associated with Murugan and its inspiring to watch. Can anybody tell me what is the legend associated with kavadi? Also, what does carrying the kavadi symbolise? (I have heard about Idumban, but I'm quite blur about the whole story). > > > THere is a seperate section on the LEGEND of the KAVADI at the website - > http://in.geocities.com/arunagirinathar/pazhani/kavadi.html > > Kavadi is of aeonic origin - which is impossible to date. > > I think even murugan.org has quite a bit resources on Kavadi. > > -- > || Thiruchitrambalam || > || Muruga Sharanam || > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
