Birth time rectification of Sundar

Dear Sundar and Kind Attn:Dhanabalan,

I ve attached a chart of Sundar with this mail.

I rectified his birth time of birth pl note.

You know the body and soul can never operate individually.

So without giving due respect to body(moon) or soul ( asc) your rectification would be futile.

I have rectified using Astrowonder software upto SSS level both planets and cusps.

And your chart also tuned to SSS level pl check.

Any doubt arising out you can feel free to ask me.

Good luck.

tkp ghopal--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Birth time rectification Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:54 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sundar

Give some events like date of marriage, first child birth date, profession, etc. to verify the birth time after rectification with Ruling Planets.

 

Further, the birth time rectifiation in 4 step differ from k.p.

 

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 9/22/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote:

sundar190561 <sunsdar190561@ .co. in> Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 5:33 AM

 

 

In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will urdergo a change. Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling planets will also be different. In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.I have given my birth details below:DOB: 22nd June, 1961TOB: 23:38 (IST)POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32Could any of the experts throw light on this.

Dear Mr Ghopal,

 

If it is Aquarius asc, can you tell me when is the next job change that I can look forward to.

 

 

Thanks............Sundar--- On Mon, 22/9/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp wrote:

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkpRe: Birth time rectification of Sundar , "Dhanabalan" <r.dhanabalanMonday, 22 September, 2008, 7:59 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sundar and Kind Attn:Dhanabalan,

I ve attached a chart of Sundar with this mail.

I rectified his birth time of birth pl note.

You know the body and soul can never operate individually.

So without giving due respect to body(moon) or soul ( asc) your rectification would be futile.

I have rectified using Astrowonder software upto SSS level both planets and cusps.

And your chart also tuned to SSS level pl check.

Any doubt arising out you can feel free to ask me.

Good luck.

tkp ghopal--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 10:54 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sundar

Give some events like date of marriage, first child birth date, profession, etc. to verify the birth time after rectification with Ruling Planets.

 

Further, the birth time rectifiation in 4 step differ from k.p.

 

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 9/22/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote:

sundar190561 <sunsdar190561@ .co. in> Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 5:33 AM

 

 

In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will urdergo a change. Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling planets will also be different. In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.I have given my birth details below:DOB: 22nd June, 1961TOB: 23:38 (IST)POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32Could any of the experts throw light on this.

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Dear Gopal

Mr.Sundar gave the timing of events for marriage 25-5-1989; son birth 31-1-1993 and job change 11-9-2002.

You have rectified the birth time using KP straightline ayanamsa and Geocentric latitude.

Event analysis:

Marriage: 25-5-1989; DBAS: Jup-Sat-Ketu-Sat

The houses to be considered are VIIà2,7,11

According to Mr.KSK, the timing of marriage is the DBAS of the prime significators of 2,7,11

Strong significator for house 2:Venus

Strong significator for house 7:Jupiter

Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn

Saturn is represented by Ketu.

 

The DBAS is matching. O.k.

Son birth: 31-1-1993; DBAS: Jup-Mer-Sat-Ketu

The houses to be considered are Và2,5,11

According to Mr.KSK, the timing of child birth is the DBAS of the prime significators of 2,5,11

Strong significator for house 2:Venus

Strong significator for house 5:Mercury

Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn

 

The DBAS is matching. O.k.

Job change: 11-9-2002; DBAS: Sat-Sat-Sat-Moon

The houses to be considered are X à3,5,9

According to Mr.KSK, the timing of job change is the DBAS of the prime significators of 3,5,9

Strong significator for house 3:Venus

Strong significator for house 5:Mercury

Strong significator for house 9:Moon

 

Saturn is not the significator for the houses 2,3,5,9,10

 

How Saturn is connected with job change?

 

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp wrote:

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkpRe: Birth time rectification of Sundar , "Dhanabalan" <r.dhanabalanMonday, September 22, 2008, 2:29 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sundar and Kind Attn:Dhanabalan,

I ve attached a chart of Sundar with this mail.

I rectified his birth time of birth pl note.

You know the body and soul can never operate individually.

So without giving due respect to body(moon) or soul ( asc) your rectification would be futile.

I have rectified using Astrowonder software upto SSS level both planets and cusps.

And your chart also tuned to SSS level pl check.

Any doubt arising out you can feel free to ask me.

Good luck.

tkp ghopal--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 10:54 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sundar

Give some events like date of marriage, first child birth date, profession, etc. to verify the birth time after rectification with Ruling Planets..

 

Further, the birth time rectifiation in 4 step differ from k.p.

 

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 9/22/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote:

sundar190561 <sunsdar190561@ .co. in> Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 5:33 AM

 

 

In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will urdergo a change. Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling planets will also be different. In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.I have given my birth details below:DOB: 22nd June, 1961TOB: 23:38 (IST)POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32Could any of the experts throw light on this.

Dear Mr. Dhanabalan,

 

Since Sat is conjunct jupiter, will sat not give the effect of houses ruled by jupiter. Jupiter is the lord of 10 & 11.

 

 

Thanks...............Sundar--- On Wed, 24/9/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Birth time rectification of Sundar Date: Wednesday, 24 September, 2008, 8:59 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gopal Mr.Sundar gave the timing of events for marriage 25-5-1989; son birth 31-1-1993 and job change 11-9-2002. You have rectified the birth time using KP straightline ayanamsa and Geocentric latitude. Event analysis: Marriage: 25-5-1989; DBAS: Jup-Sat-Ketu- Sat The houses to be considered are VIIà2,7,11 According to Mr.KSK, the timing of marriage is the DBAS of the prime significators of 2,7,11 Strong significator for house 2:Venus Strong significator for house 7:Jupiter Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn Saturn is represented by Ketu. The DBAS is matching. O.k. Son birth: 31-1-1993; DBAS: Jup-Mer-Sat- Ketu The houses to be considered are Và2,5,11 According to Mr.KSK, the timing of child birth is the DBAS of the prime significators of 2,5,11 Strong significator for house 2:Venus Strong significator for house 5:Mercury Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn The DBAS is matching. O.k. Job change: 11-9-2002; DBAS: Sat-Sat-Sat- Moon The houses to be considered are X à3,5,9 According to Mr.KSK, the timing of job change is the DBAS of the prime significators of 3,5,9 Strong significator for house 3:Venus Strong significator for house 5:Mercury Strong significator for house 9:Moon Saturn is not the significator for the houses 2,3,5,9,10 How Saturn is connected with job change? Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp > wrote:

Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp >Re: Birth time rectification of Sundar@gro ups.com, "Dhanabalan" <r.dhanabalan@ >Monday, September 22, 2008, 2:29 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sundar and Kind Attn:Dhanabalan,

I ve attached a chart of Sundar with this mail.

I rectified his birth time of birth pl note.

You know the body and soul can never operate individually.

So without giving due respect to body(moon) or soul ( asc) your rectification would be futile.

I have rectified using Astrowonder software upto SSS level both planets and cusps.

And your chart also tuned to SSS level pl check.

Any doubt arising out you can feel free to ask me.

Good luck.

tkp ghopal--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 10:54 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sundar

Give some events like date of marriage, first child birth date, profession, etc. to verify the birth time after rectification with Ruling Planets..

 

Further, the birth time rectifiation in 4 step differ from k.p.

 

Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 9/22/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote:

sundar190561 <sunsdar190561@ .co. in> Birth time rectification@gro ups.comMonday, September 22, 2008, 5:33 AM

 

 

In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will urdergo a change. Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling planets will also be different. In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.I have given my birth details below:DOB: 22nd June, 1961TOB: 23:38 (IST)POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32Could any of the experts throw light on this.

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Dear Mr. Dhanabalan ji,

 

Saturn & Moon both are connected with jupiter (lord of 10 & 11).

Jupiter is conjunct with saturn and Moon is aspected by 9th aspect

of Jupiter. Hence, saturn and moon must give results of jupiter.

 

11th September was my date of joining the new job. However, the

appointment letter was received one month ago in August 2002, when

saturn was aspecting the 10th house of birth chart and sun was

conjunct jupiter. Moreover, jupiter was exlated.

 

 

Am I right in saying this?

 

 

Thanks...........Sundar

 

 

 

, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan

wrote:

>

> Dear Gopal

> Mr.Sundar gave the timing of events for marriage 25-5-1989; son

birth 31-1-1993 and job change 11-9-2002.

>  You have rectified the birth time using KP straightline ayanamsa

and Geocentric latitude.

> Event analysis:

> Marriage: 25-5-1989;  DBAS: Jup-Sat-Ketu-Sat

> The houses to be considered are VIIà2,7,11

> According to Mr.KSK, the timing of marriage is the DBAS of the

prime significators of 2,7,11

> Strong significator for house 2:Venus

> Strong significator for house 7:Jupiter

> Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn

> Saturn is represented by Ketu.

>  

> The DBAS is matching. O.k.

>   

> Son birth: 31-1-1993; DBAS: Jup-Mer-Sat-Ketu

> The houses to be considered are Và2,5,11

> According to Mr.KSK, the timing of child birth is the DBAS of the

prime significators of 2,5,11

> Strong significator for house 2:Venus

> Strong significator for house 5:Mercury

> Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn

>  

> The DBAS is matching. O.k.

>   

> Job change: 11-9-2002; DBAS: Sat-Sat-Sat-Moon

> The houses to be considered are X à3,5,9

> According to Mr.KSK, the timing of job change is the DBAS of the

prime significators of 3,5,9

> Strong significator for house 3:Venus

> Strong significator for house 5:Mercury

> Strong significator for house 9:Moon

>  

> Saturn is not the significator for the houses 2,3,5,9,10

>  

> How Saturn is connected with job change?

>  

> Dhanabalan

>

> --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp wrote:

>

> Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp

> Re: Birth time rectification of Sundar

> , " Dhanabalan " <r.dhanabalan

> Monday, September 22, 2008, 2:29 PM

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Sundar and Kind Attn:Dhanabalan,

> I ve attached a chart of Sundar with this mail.

> I rectified his birth time of birth pl note.

> You know the body and soul can never operate individually.

> So without giving due respect to body(moon) or soul ( asc) your

rectification would be futile.

> I have rectified using Astrowonder software upto SSS level both

planets and cusps.

> And your chart also tuned to SSS level pl check.

> Any doubt arising out you can feel free to ask me.

> Good luck.

> tkp ghopal

>

> --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

>

> Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

> Re: Birth time rectification

> @gro ups.com

> Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:54 AM

>

>

>

Dear Sundar

> Give some events like date of marriage, first child birth date,

profession, etc. to verify the birth time after rectification with

Ruling Planets.

>  

> Further, the birth time rectifiation in 4 step differ from k.p.

>  

> Dhanabalan

>

> --- On Mon, 9/22/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561@ .co. in>

wrote:

>

> sundar190561 <sunsdar190561@ .co. in>

> Birth time rectification

> @gro ups.com

> Monday, September 22, 2008, 5:33 AM

>

>

>

>

> In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius &

> Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the

ascendant

> from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will

> urdergo a change.

>

> Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by " ruling

> planets " from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling

> planets will also be different.

>

> In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.

>

> I have given my birth details below:

>

> DOB: 22nd June, 1961

> TOB: 23:38 (IST)

> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32

>

> Could any of the experts throw light on this.

>

Dear Sundar

 

Conjunction and aspect are (e) grade significators in k.p. It is very weak significator. Further, the orb for conjuction of Jupiter and Saturn is about 7 degrees. The 9th aspect of Jupiter on Moon, the orb is 11 degrees. The conjoin and aspect are effective only between 3.20' degree to 5 degree..

 

We can apply the 4 step method rule for conjoin and aspect.

 

Mr.M.P.Shanmugam recommended only 2 degree orb for aspect and conjoin in Astrosecret.

 

Jupiter is debilitated in Capricon and exalted in Cancer.

 

Dhanabalan--- On Thu, 9/25/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561 wrote:

sundar190561 <sundar190561 Re: Birth time rectification of Sundar Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 4:37 AM

 

 

Dear Mr. Dhanabalan ji,Saturn & Moon both are connected with jupiter (lord of 10 & 11). Jupiter is conjunct with saturn and Moon is aspected by 9th aspect of Jupiter. Hence, saturn and moon must give results of jupiter.11th September was my date of joining the new job. However, the appointment letter was received one month ago in August 2002, when saturn was aspecting the 10th house of birth chart and sun was conjunct jupiter. Moreover, jupiter was exlated.Am I right in saying this?Thanks...... .....Sundar@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopal> Mr.Sundar gave the timing of events for marriage 25-5-1989; son birth 31-1-1993 and job change 11-9-2002.> You have rectified the birth time using KP straightline

ayanamsa and Geocentric latitude.> Event analysis:> Marriage: 25-5-1989; DBAS: Jup-Sat-Ketu- Sat> The houses to be considered are VIIà2,7,11> According to Mr.KSK, the timing of marriage is the DBAS of the prime significators of 2,7,11> Strong significator for house 2:Venus> Strong significator for house 7:Jupiter> Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn> Saturn is represented by Ketu.> > The DBAS is matching. O.k.> > Son birth: 31-1-1993; DBAS: Jup-Mer-Sat- Ketu> The houses to be considered are Và2,5,11> According to Mr.KSK, the timing of child birth is the DBAS of the prime significators of 2,5,11> Strong significator for house 2:Venus> Strong significator for house 5:Mercury> Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn> > The DBAS is matching. O.k.>

> Job change: 11-9-2002; DBAS: Sat-Sat-Sat- Moon> The houses to be considered are X à3,5,9> According to Mr.KSK, the timing of job change is the DBAS of the prime significators of 3,5,9> Strong significator for house 3:Venus> Strong significator for house 5:Mercury> Strong significator for house 9:Moon> > Saturn is not the significator for the houses 2,3,5,9,10> > How Saturn is connected with job change?> > Dhanabalan> > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp wrote:> > Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp> Re: Birth time rectification of Sundar> @gro ups.com, "Dhanabalan" <r.dhanabalan@ ...>> Monday, September 22, 2008, 2:29

PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sundar and Kind Attn:Dhanabalan,> I ve attached a chart of Sundar with this mail.> I rectified his birth time of birth pl note.> You know the body and soul can never operate individually.> So without giving due respect to body(moon) or soul ( asc) your rectification would be futile.> I have rectified using Astrowonder software upto SSS level both planets and cusps.> And your chart also tuned to SSS level pl check.> Any doubt arising out you can feel free to ask me.> Good luck.> tkp ghopal> > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >> Re: Birth time rectification> @gro ups.com> Monday,

September 22, 2008, 10:54 AM> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sundar> Give some events like date of marriage, first child birth date, profession, etc. to verify the birth time after rectification with Ruling Planets.> > Further, the birth time rectifiation in 4 step differ from k.p.> > Dhanabalan> > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561@ .co. in> wrote:> > sundar190561 <sunsdar190561@ .co. in>> Birth time rectification> @gro ups.com> Monday, September 22, 2008, 5:33 AM> > > > > In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the ascendant > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to

this the house lordships will > urdergo a change. > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > planets will also be different. > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > I have given my birth details below:> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961> TOB: 23:38 (IST)> POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.>

Dear Mr. Dhanabalan ji,

 

As per Phaladeepika, a retrograde planet which is debilitated is

equal to exaltation. Further, even if you take jupiter as

debilitated, since it is conjuct with saturn, it attains neechabangha.

 

Regarding the orbs, as per M P Shanmugham, are you refering to 1st

reader, where he talks of aspects and conjuctions?. If it is so, he

has not mentioned any kind of orbs. He has mentioned only the stellar

dispositor. If I am wrong, could you please let me know in which

reader he has talked about the orbs. I would be highly grateful to

you for providing this information.

 

 

Thanks..........Sundar

 

 

, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan

wrote:

>

> Dear Sundar

>  

> Conjunction and aspect are (e) grade significators in k.p. It is

very weak significator. Further, the orb for conjuction of Jupiter

and Saturn is about 7 degrees. The 9th aspect of Jupiter on Moon, the

orb is 11 degrees. The conjoin and aspect are effective only between

3.20' degree to 5 degree.

>  

> We can apply the 4 step method rule for conjoin and aspect.

>  

> Mr.M.P.Shanmugam recommended only 2 degree orb for aspect and

conjoin in Astrosecret.

>  

> Jupiter is debilitated in Capricon and exalted in Cancer.

>  

> Dhanabalan

>

> --- On Thu, 9/25/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561 wrote:

>

> sundar190561 <sundar190561

> Re: Birth time rectification of Sundar

>

> Thursday, September 25, 2008, 4:37 AM

Dear Mr. Dhanabalan ji,

>

> Saturn & Moon both are connected with jupiter (lord of 10 & 11).

> Jupiter is conjunct with saturn and Moon is aspected by 9th aspect

> of Jupiter. Hence, saturn and moon must give results of jupiter.

>

> 11th September was my date of joining the new job. However, the

> appointment letter was received one month ago in August 2002, when

> saturn was aspecting the 10th house of birth chart and sun was

> conjunct jupiter. Moreover, jupiter was exlated.

>

> Am I right in saying this?

>

> Thanks...... .....Sundar

>

> @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R

<r.dhanabalan@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopal

> > Mr.Sundar gave the timing of events for marriage 25-5-1989; son

> birth 31-1-1993 and job change 11-9-2002.

> >  You have rectified the birth time using KP straightline ayanamsa

> and Geocentric latitude.

> > Event analysis:

> > Marriage: 25-5-1989;  DBAS: Jup-Sat-Ketu- Sat

> > The houses to be considered are VIIà2,7,11

> > According to Mr.KSK, the timing of marriage is the DBAS of the

> prime significators of 2,7,11

> > Strong significator for house 2:Venus

> > Strong significator for house 7:Jupiter

> > Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn

> > Saturn is represented by Ketu.

> >  

> > The DBAS is matching. O.k.

> >   

> > Son birth: 31-1-1993; DBAS: Jup-Mer-Sat- Ketu

> > The houses to be considered are Và2,5,11

> > According to Mr.KSK, the timing of child birth is the DBAS of the

> prime significators of 2,5,11

> > Strong significator for house 2:Venus

> > Strong significator for house 5:Mercury

> > Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn

> >  

> > The DBAS is matching. O.k.

> >   

> > Job change: 11-9-2002; DBAS: Sat-Sat-Sat- Moon

> > The houses to be considered are X à3,5,9

> > According to Mr.KSK, the timing of job change is the DBAS of the

> prime significators of 3,5,9

> > Strong significator for house 3:Venus

> > Strong significator for house 5:Mercury

> > Strong significator for house 9:Moon

> >  

> > Saturn is not the significator for the houses 2,3,5,9,10

> >  

> > How Saturn is connected with job change?

> >  

> > Dhanabalan

> >

> > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp@> wrote:

> >

> > Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp@>

> > Re: Birth time rectification of Sundar

> > @gro ups.com, " Dhanabalan " <r.dhanabalan@ ...>

> > Monday, September 22, 2008, 2:29 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sundar and Kind Attn:Dhanabalan,

> > I ve attached a chart of Sundar with this mail.

> > I rectified his birth time of birth pl note.

> > You know the body and soul can never operate individually.

> > So without giving due respect to body(moon) or soul ( asc) your

> rectification would be futile.

> > I have rectified using Astrowonder software upto SSS level both

> planets and cusps.

> > And your chart also tuned to SSS level pl check.

> > Any doubt arising out you can feel free to ask me.

> > Good luck.

> > tkp ghopal

> >

> > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

> > Re: Birth time rectification

> > @gro ups.com

> > Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:54 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sundar

> > Give some events like date of marriage, first child birth date,

> profession, etc. to verify the birth time after rectification with

> Ruling Planets.

> >  

> > Further, the birth time rectifiation in 4 step differ from k.p.

> >  

> > Dhanabalan

> >

> > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561@ .co. in>

> wrote:

> >

> > sundar190561 <sunsdar190561@ .co. in>

> > Birth time rectification

> > @gro ups.com

> > Monday, September 22, 2008, 5:33 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius &

> > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the

> ascendant

> > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will

> > urdergo a change.

> >

> > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by " ruling

> > planets " from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling

> > planets will also be different.

> >

> > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.

> >

> > I have given my birth details below:

> >

> > DOB: 22nd June, 1961

> > TOB: 23:38 (IST)

> > POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32

> >

> > Could any of the experts throw light on this.

> >

>

Dear Sundar

 

Here comes exaltation and debilitation. The planet moving towards exaltation is called aroganam and the planets moving towards debilitation are called avaroganam. Arognam is considered as stronger than avaroganam. During retrogradation, the direction of the planet changes. Hence the avaroganam is changed to aroganam. i.e. the planet is gaining power. I think it is the justification for Phaladeepika.

 

The retrograde planet during debilitation- the important point to consider is whether it is in aroganam or in avaroganam.

 

Neechabanga: Here we have to consider another concept of the effect of planets under conjunction. When one debilitated planet is conjoin with another exalted planet, the exalted planet will loose its power and the debilitated planet will gain the power. Here again one should consider the orb of conjunction. Tighter the orb, the effect will be more. The orb of 3.20’ degree is accepted by most.

 

Please refer pages 77, 78,139,141 in Astrosecret part I by M.P.Shanmugam. He recommended only 2 degree orb for conjunction.

 

I have read somewhere in the same book that Mr.M.P.Shanmugam recommended exact degree for aspect without orb.

 

Dhanabalan--- On Fri, 9/26/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561 wrote:

sundar190561 <sundar190561 Re: Birth time rectification of Sundar Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 3:33 PM

 

 

Dear Mr. Dhanabalan ji,As per Phaladeepika, a retrograde planet which is debilitated is equal to exaltation. Further, even if you take jupiter as debilitated, since it is conjuct with saturn, it attains neechabangha.Regarding the orbs, as per M P Shanmugham, are you refering to 1st reader, where he talks of aspects and conjuctions? . If it is so, he has not mentioned any kind of orbs. He has mentioned only the stellar dispositor. If I am wrong, could you please let me know in which reader he has talked about the orbs. I would be highly grateful to you for providing this information. Thanks...... ....Sundar@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sundar> > Conjunction and aspect are (e) grade significators in k.p. It is very

weak significator. Further, the orb for conjuction of Jupiter and Saturn is about 7 degrees. The 9th aspect of Jupiter on Moon, the orb is 11 degrees. The conjoin and aspect are effective only between 3.20' degree to 5 degree.> > We can apply the 4 step method rule for conjoin and aspect.> > Mr.M.P.Shanmugam recommended only 2 degree orb for aspect and conjoin in Astrosecret.> > Jupiter is debilitated in Capricon and exalted in Cancer.> > Dhanabalan> > --- On Thu, 9/25/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561@ ...> wrote:> > sundar190561 <sundar190561@ ...>> Re: Birth time rectification of Sundar> @gro ups.com> Thursday, September 25, 2008, 4:37 AM> > >

> > > > Dear Mr. Dhanabalan ji,> > Saturn & Moon both are connected with jupiter (lord of 10 & 11). > Jupiter is conjunct with saturn and Moon is aspected by 9th aspect > of Jupiter. Hence, saturn and moon must give results of jupiter.> > 11th September was my date of joining the new job. However, the > appointment letter was received one month ago in August 2002, when > saturn was aspecting the 10th house of birth chart and sun was > conjunct jupiter. Moreover, jupiter was exlated.> > Am I right in saying this?> > Thanks...... .....Sundar> > @gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> > wrote:> >> > Dear Gopal> > Mr.Sundar gave the timing of events for marriage 25-5-1989; son > birth 31-1-1993 and job change 11-9-2002.> >

You have rectified the birth time using KP straightline ayanamsa > and Geocentric latitude.> > Event analysis:> > Marriage: 25-5-1989; DBAS: Jup-Sat-Ketu- Sat> > The houses to be considered are VIIà2,7,11> > According to Mr.KSK, the timing of marriage is the DBAS of the > prime significators of 2,7,11> > Strong significator for house 2:Venus> > Strong significator for house 7:Jupiter> > Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn> > Saturn is represented by Ketu.> > > > The DBAS is matching. O.k.> > > > Son birth: 31-1-1993; DBAS: Jup-Mer-Sat- Ketu> > The houses to be considered are Và2,5,11> > According to Mr.KSK, the timing of child birth is the DBAS of the > prime significators of 2,5,11> > Strong significator for house 2:Venus> >

Strong significator for house 5:Mercury> > Strong significator for house 11:Jupiter, Saturn> > > > The DBAS is matching. O.k.> > > > Job change: 11-9-2002; DBAS: Sat-Sat-Sat- Moon> > The houses to be considered are X à3,5,9> > According to Mr.KSK, the timing of job change is the DBAS of the > prime significators of 3,5,9> > Strong significator for house 3:Venus> > Strong significator for house 5:Mercury> > Strong significator for house 9:Moon> > > > Saturn is not the significator for the houses 2,3,5,9,10> > > > How Saturn is connected with job change?> > > > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp@> wrote:> > > > Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_ tkp@>> > Subject:

Re: Birth time rectification of Sundar> > @gro ups.com, "Dhanabalan" <r.dhanabalan@ ...>> > Monday, September 22, 2008, 2:29 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sundar and Kind Attn:Dhanabalan,> > I ve attached a chart of Sundar with this mail.> > I rectified his birth time of birth pl note.> > You know the body and soul can never operate individually.> > So without giving due respect to body(moon) or soul ( asc) your > rectification would be futile.> > I have rectified using Astrowonder software upto SSS level both > planets and cusps.> > And your chart also tuned to SSS level pl check.> > Any doubt arising out you can feel free to ask me.> > Good

luck.> > tkp ghopal> > > > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:> > > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >> > Re: Birth time rectification> > @gro ups.com> > Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:54 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sundar> > Give some events like date of marriage, first child birth date, > profession, etc. to verify the birth time after rectification with > Ruling Planets.> > > > Further, the birth time rectifiation in 4 step differ from k.p.> > > > Dhanabalan> > > > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, sundar190561 <sundar190561@ .co. in> > wrote:> >

> > sundar190561 <sunsdar190561@ .co. in>> > Birth time rectification> > @gro ups.com> > Monday, September 22, 2008, 5:33 AM> > > > > > > > > > In my case, the asc is exactly on the cusp between Aquarius & > > Pisces. A change in timing of 2 to 4 minutes will take the > ascendant > > from Aquarius to Pisces and due to this the house lordships will > > urdergo a change. > > > > Secondly, if two persons take up the rectification by "ruling > > planets" from two diametrically opposite continents, the ruling > > planets will also be different. > > > > In such a case how does one go about rectification of chart.> > > > I have given my birth details below:> > > > DOB:

22nd June, 1961> > TOB: 23:38 (IST)> > POB: Bhimavaram, AP, Lat:16N32, Long:81E32> > > > Could any of the experts throw light on this.> >>