Final Dispositor, final host, final say?

05-15-2006, 08:13 PM

Dear J_R jyotish clubmembers,

While there is so much to ponder about in the wealth of thoughts and
gemstones (ideas) that exist in classics, some of the modern thoughts
have been quite intriguing too and one such has tugged at my mind
too. This is the concept of dispositors or as some call these:
depositors.

Essentially, a planet is placed in a rashi and the lord of that
rashi/sign then becomes the representative of the planet. If lagnesh
saturn is placed in the 4th (e.g., taurus) then venus becomes the
dispositor of lagnesh and lagna. Semantic debates have occurred
around the label and other labels, such as 'surrogate', alternate,
representative, secondary image etc have been tossed around. The
venus in this instance will, one posits, act as the lagnesha's ally.
Depending on its strength and manifest nature, it will support or not
the planet that it has invited into its house! There we have another
term! Lagnesha in this case, saturn, is a guest in venus' sign, so
venus must be the host! The concept is attractive, but does it work
in practical astrology?

Final dispositor or final host (if you go with the new terminology
just hatched -- is the planet that you end up with, if you consider
the host's host and that host's host and so on.

Let us say lagnesh mercury is in scorpio
and mars is in aries. Then mars becomes the final host for mercury.
Say the venus, rahu and moon in the same chart are in sagittarius and
jupiter is in capricorn and saturn is in gemini and mercury as we
already know is in scorpio and mars is in aries, so again the buck
stops in aries and mars becomes the final dispositor.

Now, what if the chart is so arranged at birth that the same planet
becomes the final host, final dispositor for ALL planets in the
chart? Surely, this must mean something and worthy of note and
attention.

I believe the concept was originally put forward by Sri Manik Chand
Jain.

Has anyone played around with it in charts and observed what happened
in these peoples' lives? I am sure we can all have opinions and
surmises about this situation, given our enormous divine creativity,
but let us begin with sharing observations if any exist out there.

Is it good to have a single final host? Does it not put all the eggs
in one basket? If the final planet happens to be weak or malefic, is
it case closed for the individual?

I hope and pray, NOT!

RR

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05-16-2006, 01:43 AM

RRji,
The spectrum of light has seven colours, if a person
is intensely focussed on a single colour, the shades
of other colours fade away, any person born on this
earth needs to have a sprinkling of all of them to
have sufficient resources to accomplish their tasks.

The dispositor concept is intriguing, a single finite
dispositor basically implies that only one graha out
of seven sits at home and should not be a very common
phenomena....but...
Consider this data, however, it has been taken out of
the ephemeris for a decade beginning Jan 1, 1999 to
Dec 31, 2008. A sample in which Saturn is between
Aries and Leo and is not dispositor in any of the
days. The total data is of 3654 days.

Graha    rashi    Total days    Final dispositor

                                  (in days)

Sun         Leo    310 199
Moon      Cn       306 148
Jupiter    Sg/Pi   516 256                      Mars
     Ar/Sc    741   471
Mercury Ge/ vi       645 271
Venus      Ta/Li      676 434                     Rahu
       Aq        544 229
That is if we take Ra as the Lord of Aquarius and
treat it as a dispositor too, we have as many as 2208
days out of 3654 when a chart is likely to have a
single dispositor. Leaving Rahu aside we still have
1979 days out of 3654 almost 54 % charts with single
final dispositor.
And then we have so many arrows in the jyotisha bow,
how about nakshatra dispositors?
regards

rishi

--- crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote:

> Dear J_R jyotish clubmembers,
>
> While there is so much to ponder about in the wealth
> of thoughts and
> gemstones (ideas) that exist in classics, some of
> the modern thoughts
> have been quite intriguing too and one such has
> tugged at my mind
> too. This is the concept of dispositors or as some
> call these:
> depositors.
>
> Essentially, a planet is placed in a rashi and the
> lord of that
> rashi/sign then becomes the representative of the
> planet. If lagnesh
> saturn is placed in the 4th (e.g., taurus) then
> venus becomes the
> dispositor of lagnesh and lagna. Semantic debates
> have occurred
> around the label and other labels, such as
> 'surrogate', alternate,
> representative, secondary image etc have been tossed
> around. The
> venus in this instance will, one posits, act as the
> lagnesha's ally.
> Depending on its strength and manifest nature, it
> will support or not
> the planet that it has invited into its house! There
> we have another
> term! Lagnesha in this case, saturn, is a guest in
> venus' sign, so
> venus must be the host! The concept is attractive,
> but does it work
> in practical astrology?
>
> Final dispositor or final host (if you go with the
> new terminology
> just hatched -- is the planet that you end up with,
> if you consider
> the host's host and that host's host and so on.
>
> Let us say lagnesh mercury is in scorpio
> and mars is in aries. Then mars becomes the final
> host for mercury.
> Say the venus, rahu and moon in the same chart are
> in sagittarius and
> jupiter is in capricorn and saturn is in gemini and
> mercury as we
> already know is in scorpio and mars is in aries, so
> again the buck
> stops in aries and mars becomes the final
> dispositor.
>
> Now, what if the chart is so arranged at birth that
> the same planet
> becomes the final host, final dispositor for ALL
> planets in the
> chart? Surely, this must mean something and worthy
> of note and
> attention.
>
> I believe the concept was originally put forward by
> Sri Manik Chand
> Jain.
>
> Has anyone played around with it in charts and
> observed what happened
> in these peoples' lives? I am sure we can all have
> opinions and
> surmises about this situation, given our enormous
> divine creativity,
> but let us begin with sharing observations if any
> exist out there.
>
> Is it good to have a single final host? Does it not
> put all the eggs
> in one basket? If the final planet happens to be
> weak or malefic, is
> it case closed for the individual?
>
> I hope and pray, NOT!
>
> RR
>
> <please do not crosspost this thread in other forums
> -- we do not
> want to confuse all of them while we are merely
> exploring!>
>
>
>
>
>

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