In the Bengal Vaisnava tradition there is a practice where a serious
practitioner is given an esoteric identity within the realm of Vrindavana by
his or her guru. This includes the following details: age, colour of skin, what
kind of clothes you wear, etc. The practitioner memorises maps of Vrindavana,
where he or she lives, where he or she sports with Krishna, etc. Usually the
identity is that of a manjari, a young girl who assists in the play of Radha
and Krishna, but it could also be a friend of Krsna. This new identity is
called the siddha-deha, the perfected body. It is considered to be the
practitioners true identity. In meditation the practitioner enters this
"reality" and the goal is to enter permanently into it at one point. This
"imaginary" world is considered to be the highest reality, the cosmic drama,
the eternal spiritual play of Radha and Krishna.
Does such kind of practice also exist in the Shakta tradition? Can Devi be
worshiped in a similar way?
If it does not exist in the Shakta tradition, does such a practice exist in the
Shaiva tradition in connection with Parvati and Shiva ?
I would be most grateful for some information.

Kind regards,
Alexandra Kafka

Namskar all,
........YES !!! such kind of savaral trdition may found in Indian
culture.......
...........few people (particularly-Male) used to keep
themselves(physically)as a female SAKHI (closed freind-infact it is
more than a freind)of Krsna !!!!
they always thinking, behaving like female SAKHI of krsna.......
by SOUL, and it;s another way of living spiritual life......!!!!

one more thing, other citizen are giving respect to them, in other
word it's acceeptable in socoeity !!!!!


regards to all
it's me....raj


it's me.......raj
raaj@...

Alexandra Kafka wrote:
In the Bengal Vaisnava tradition there is a practice where a serious
practitioner is given an esoteric identity within the realm of
Vrindavana by his or her guru. This includes the following details:
age, colour of skin, what kind of clothes you wear, etc. The
practitioner memorises maps of Vrindavana, where he or she lives,
where he or she sports with Krishna, etc. Usually the identity is that
of a manjari, a young girl who assists in the play of Radha and
Krishna, but it could also be a friend of Krsna. This new identity is
called the siddha-deha, the perfected body. It is considered to be the
practitioners true identity. In meditation the practitioner enters
this "reality" and the goal is to enter permanently into it at one
point. This "imaginary" world is considered to be the highest reality,
the cosmic drama, the eternal spiritual play of Radha and Krishna.
> Does such kind of practice also exist in the Shakta tradition? Can Devi be
worshiped in a similar way?
> If it does not exist in the Shakta tradition, does such a practice exist in
the Shaiva tradition in connection with Parvati and Shiva ?
> I would be most grateful for some information.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alexandra Kafka
>

sjvc (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com <sjvc (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
Re: [sjvc] use of a particular form of Sadhana in Devi Bhakti

yes, there is a particular section called vamachari sadhak. they are tantricks
and the path is highly guarded secret and also very dangerous to follow without
a proper guru. they attain highest form of meditation through sexual
intercourses. it is told that, if choosen by the guru and practised in the
right direction-it is the sure shot and shortest way to moksha. tantrics in
eastern region have a very very high spiritual phylosophy - but often
misunderstood.

jk dasgupta

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From: Alexandra Kafka
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Subject: [sjvc] use of a particular form of Sadhana in Devi Bhakti
In the Bengal Vaisnava tradition there is a practice where a serious
practitioner is given an esoteric identity within the realm of Vrindavana by
his or her guru. This includes the following details: age, colour of skin, what
kind of clothes you wear, etc. The practitioner memorises maps of Vrindavana,
where he or she lives, where he or she sports with Krishna, etc. Usually the
identity is that of a manjari, a young girl who assists in the play of Radha
and Krishna, but it could also be a friend of Krsna. This new identity is
called the siddha-deha, the perfected body. It is considered to be the
practitioners true identity. In meditation the practitioner enters this
"reality" and the goal is to enter permanently into it at one point. This
"imaginary" world is considered to be the highest reality, the cosmic drama,
the eternal spiritual play of Radha and Krishna.
Does such kind of practice also exist in the Shakta tradition? Can Devi be
worshiped in a similar way?
If it does not exist in the Shakta tradition, does such a practice exist in the
Shaiva tradition in connection with Parvati and Shiva ?
I would be most grateful for some information.

Kind regards,
Alexandra KafkaYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.