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dear sri vidyan

I have studied both Sri Yukteswara s view and that of traditional view. While it

is true that a great siddha like Sri Yukteswara s view is of paramount

importance , it would be not wise to place the traditional view and his views

as contrary to each other. In fact time and space are relative matters and Yugas

or cycles could be of varied length one contained in other. As in one year

cycles of months start and in months cycles of days, so also within one yuga

there may be other four Yugas in a type of cycle. I am not sure whether I am

very clear in my expression or not but that the diff. types of Yugas as

described by traditions and sri Yukteswara are not contradictory that I just

want to impress. There are so many things that is beyond our comprehension and

relativity of time and space surpass our limited imaginations. However I am no

authority on this subject and just joined you and Ashutosh for the shake of

discussion.

 

In this context I would ask you and others who are interested to study Yoga

Vasistha Ramayana where the relativity of time and space are explained in a

beautiful way.

 

Also I would quote the famous BV RAMAN from his Autobiography in relation to our discussion.

 

“ My contact with swami Yogaananda began in a surprising manner . One Laurie

Pratt …. Was writing a series of articles in Swami Yogaananda‘s journal on the

Yuga theory. She had reduced the ages of the Yugas in ancient books in years to

days. For instance she had been saying the duration of Kali Yuga was not 432,000

years but day’s which means only 1200 years. Thus a Mahayuga according to her

was 12000 years. I wrote to Swami Yognanda refuting her theory and upholding

the traditional ages. The Swamiji appreciated my article***”

 

Thus you can see that this view is not rejected by Sri Yogaananda for when you

go in to higher realms you see apparently contradictory things happen.

 

Gurudatta Dash-

Vaidun Vidyadhar

valist

Sunday, August 14, 2005 3:07 PM

RE: Ashutosh

Dear Ashutosh,I read your text on the Vainkateshwara Shatabdi Panchanga with

great interest. It states that the length of the various yugas are as

follows:1. Krityuga : 17280002. Tretayuga: 12960003. Dwaparyuga: 8640004.

Kaliyuga: 432000If one divides the above four numbers by 360 one would get:a.

Krityuga : 4800b. Tretayuga: 3600c. Dwaparyuga: 2400d. Kaliyuga: 1200Sri

Yuketswar explains in The Holy Science that the actual length of the various

yugas are NOT 1, 2, 3 and 4 above but a, b, c and d above. At para 18 of the

extract of The Holy Science (that I had attached in my earlier email) he

explains how this error had crept in.It is generally accepted that Ram had

lived in the last Tretayuga (as you rightly pointed out). Going by the figures

given at 1, 2, 3 and 4 above, that would place him AT LEAST 869,106 back from

now. (5106 + 864000 = 869,106). Do you really think Ram would have lived THAT

long ago? If one takes the figures at a, b, c and d the figure will reduce

from 869,106 to 5106 (at least, as of this year 2005). Does the figure 869,106

appear reasonable and realistic? Or does 5106 appear reasonable and realistic?

Sri Yuteswar had explained that it would be the latter.

Food for thought.

Vaidun Vidyadhar

Tamworth, NSW

Australia

Email: vvidya (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au

 

valist

[valist] On Behalf Of Astrologer AshutoshSunday,

14 August 2005 18:15valistSubject: Re: AshutoshDear

Juliana, Ketu is a moksha karak planet. How can a such a

planet be a malefic. Ketu has no worries, no anxieties, just a simple

straightforward sense of purpose and single mindedness. Ketu knows no

diplomacy and calls a spade a spade. It cannot carry on relationships which are

a burden. Ketu kills but with short and precise blows. Rahu and ketu are

totally different to each other in nature.Whatever is appicable to rahu stands

reversed with ketu. Ketu is cruel because Moksha can be achieved only after

release from mortal body which, in other words, is death. Indian history

remains controversial because writing down history was never a part of Indian

culture. Whatever is found is in form of religious texts, epics like

mahabharat, folk tales, folk songs and legends. Same is with astrology

too. The west has a handful of astrological texts and some books written by

some english speaking astrologers like BV Raman, Sanjay Rath and KN Rao. There

is more knowledge with scholars who do not know English. There have many

Shankaracharyas, many Parshurams, many Vyas munis (the one who wrote mahabharat

was Ved Vyas) and many Parashar Munis. Some names have been carried on like

titles in certain schools of thoughts. So, there is bound to be controversies.

The west does not take into consideration the calenders used in India.

Besides Vikram Samvat and Saka samvat many other calenders have been in use.

For example, according to Vainkateshwara Shatabdi Panchanga, the present year

began on 9th april 2005. It describes the new year as: The years passed

till this year are, 1955885106 years since world was created, where 1728000

years of Krityuga, 1296000 of Tretayuga (Ram was born in Tretayuga), 864000 of

Dwaparyuga (Krishna's Yuga), and 432000 of Kaliyuga (Present Yuga) out of which

5106 have been spent and 426894 are yet to come. Vikram samvat 2062 and shak

samvat 1927. Dwaparyuga ended with Mahabharat war. Unbelievable but this

is what Indian calender is like. Controversies abound. West is slowly awakening

to Oriental sciences. It is possible that the above calender will also proven

right in future. Many a times I have been surprised by this ancient

nation's secrets.Ashutosh-Juliana Swanson

<omhamsa ><valist>Saturday, August 13, 2005

21:10Ashutosh> Hi Ashutosh,>> Re: "Ketu is a cruel planet(kroor

grah) but not a malefic (paap> grah)," will you enlighten us further on this

interesting point?>> Thanks also for sharing you fascinating points about the

history of> Indian astrology. Why is it that this subject remains so

maddeningly> controversial in all circles?>> Best regards,> Juliana>>>>> To

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Dear Dr. Dash,

 

Thank you for your email below. I have been reading your postings with great

interest. You are obviously a very well-read scholar, fully familiar with the

spiritual wealth of India.

 

I understand what you are trying to say about 'yugas within yugas'. Wheels

within wheels, as it were. I suppose the 24,000 year yuga cycle that Sri

Yukteswar has written about is just one segment of a greater cosmic cycle.

 

Regarding Swami Yogananda's reported response, "The Swamiji appreciated my

article”, it would appear that while Swami Yogananda may have

"appreciated" the article, he may not necessarily have agreed with or endorsed

it's contents. I suppose Masters like Swami Yogananda would be very tactful

and polite, they are not likely to bluntly say, "No, I don't agree with you."

 

Thank you for your very valued comments. With best regards.

 

Respectfully yours

 

Vaidun Vidyadhar

Tamworth, NSW

Australia

Email: vvidya (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au

 

 

valist [valist] On Behalf Of Dr.

Gurudatta DashSunday, 14 August 2005 22:06To:

valistSubject: Re: on Yuga theory

dear sri vidyan

I have studied both Sri Yukteswara s view and that of traditional view. While it

is true that a great siddha like Sri Yukteswara s view is of paramount

importance , it would be not wise to place the traditional view and his views

as contrary to each other. In fact time and space are relative matters and Yugas

or cycles could be of varied length one contained in other. As in one year

cycles of months start and in months cycles of days, so also within one yuga

there may be other four Yugas in a type of cycle. I am not sure whether I am

very clear in my expression or not but that the diff. types of Yugas as

described by traditions and sri Yukteswara are not contradictory that I just

want to impress. There are so many things that is beyond our comprehension and

relativity of time and space surpass our limited imaginations. However I am no

authority on this subject and just joined you and Ashutosh for the shake of

discussion.

 

In this context I would ask you and others who are interested to study Yoga

Vasistha Ramayana where the relativity of time and space are explained in a

beautiful way.

 

Also I would quote the famous BV RAMAN from his Autobiography in relation to our discussion.

 

“ My contact with swami Yogaananda began in a surprising manner . One

Laurie Pratt …. Was writing a series of articles in Swami

Yogaananda‘s journal on the Yuga theory. She had reduced the ages of the

Yugas in ancient books in years to days. For instance she had been saying the

duration of Kali Yuga was not 432,000 years but day’s which means only

1200 years. Thus a Mahayuga according to her was 12000 years. I wrote to Swami

Yognanda refuting her theory and upholding the traditional ages. The Swamiji

appreciated my article***”

 

Thus you can see that this view is not rejected by Sri Yogaananda for when you

go in to higher realms you see apparently contradictory things happen.

 

Gurudatta Dash

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