dear sri vidyan
I have studied both Sri Yukteswara s view and that of traditional view. While it
is true that a great siddha like Sri Yukteswara s view is of paramount
importance , it would be not wise to place the traditional view and his views
as contrary to each other. In fact time and space are relative matters and Yugas
or cycles could be of varied length one contained in other. As in one year
cycles of months start and in months cycles of days, so also within one yuga
there may be other four Yugas in a type of cycle. I am not sure whether I am
very clear in my expression or not but that the diff. types of Yugas as
described by traditions and sri Yukteswara are not contradictory that I just
want to impress. There are so many things that is beyond our comprehension and
relativity of time and space surpass our limited imaginations. However I am no
authority on this subject and just joined you and Ashutosh for the shake of
discussion.

In this context I would ask you and others who are interested to study Yoga
Vasistha Ramayana where the relativity of time and space are explained in a
beautiful way.

Also I would quote the famous BV RAMAN from his Autobiography in relation to our discussion.

“ My contact with swami Yogaananda began in a surprising manner . One Laurie
Pratt …. Was writing a series of articles in Swami Yogaananda‘s journal on the
Yuga theory. She had reduced the ages of the Yugas in ancient books in years to
days. For instance she had been saying the duration of Kali Yuga was not 432,000
years but day’s which means only 1200 years. Thus a Mahayuga according to her
was 12000 years. I wrote to Swami Yognanda refuting her theory and upholding
the traditional ages. The Swamiji appreciated my article***”

Thus you can see that this view is not rejected by Sri Yogaananda for when you
go in to higher realms you see apparently contradictory things happen.

Gurudatta Dash----- Original Message -----
From: Vaidun Vidyadhar
To: valist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [VA] Ashutosh
Dear Ashutosh,I read your text on the Vainkateshwara Shatabdi Panchanga with
great interest. It states that the length of the various yugas are as
follows:1. Krityuga : 17280002. Tretayuga: 12960003. Dwaparyuga: 8640004.
Kaliyuga: 432000If one divides the above four numbers by 360 one would get:a.
Krityuga : 4800b. Tretayuga: 3600c. Dwaparyuga: 2400d. Kaliyuga: 1200Sri
Yuketswar explains in The Holy Science that the actual length of the various
yugas are NOT 1, 2, 3 and 4 above but a, b, c and d above. At para 18 of the
extract of The Holy Science (that I had attached in my earlier email) he
explains how this error had crept in.It is generally accepted that Ram had
lived in the last Tretayuga (as you rightly pointed out). Going by the figures
given at 1, 2, 3 and 4 above, that would place him AT LEAST 869,106 back from
now. (5106 + 864000 = 869,106). Do you really think Ram would have lived THAT
long ago? If one takes the figures at a, b, c and d the figure will reduce
from 869,106 to 5106 (at least, as of this year 2005). Does the figure 869,106
appear reasonable and realistic? Or does 5106 appear reasonable and realistic?
Sri Yuteswar had explained that it would be the latter.
Food for thought.
Vaidun Vidyadhar
Tamworth, NSW
Australia
Email: vvidya (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au

-----Original Message-----From: valist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
[mailto:valist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Astrologer AshutoshSent: Sunday,
14 August 2005 18:15To: valist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: [VA] AshutoshDear
Juliana, Ketu is a moksha karak planet. How can a such a
planet be a malefic. Ketu has no worries, no anxieties, just a simple
straightforward sense of purpose and single mindedness. Ketu knows no
diplomacy and calls a spade a spade. It cannot carry on relationships which are
a burden. Ketu kills but with short and precise blows. Rahu and ketu are
totally different to each other in nature.Whatever is appicable to rahu stands
reversed with ketu. Ketu is cruel because Moksha can be achieved only after
release from mortal body which, in other words, is death. Indian history
remains controversial because writing down history was never a part of Indian
culture. Whatever is found is in form of religious texts, epics like
mahabharat, folk tales, folk songs and legends. Same is with astrology
too. The west has a handful of astrological texts and some books written by
some english speaking astrologers like BV Raman, Sanjay Rath and KN Rao. There
is more knowledge with scholars who do not know English. There have many
Shankaracharyas, many Parshurams, many Vyas munis (the one who wrote mahabharat
was Ved Vyas) and many Parashar Munis. Some names have been carried on like
titles in certain schools of thoughts. So, there is bound to be controversies.
The west does not take into consideration the calenders used in India.
Besides Vikram Samvat and Saka samvat many other calenders have been in use.
For example, according to Vainkateshwara Shatabdi Panchanga, the present year
began on 9th april 2005. It describes the new year as: The years passed
till this year are, 1955885106 years since world was created, where 1728000
years of Krityuga, 1296000 of Tretayuga (Ram was born in Tretayuga), 864000 of
Dwaparyuga (Krishna's Yuga), and 432000 of Kaliyuga (Present Yuga) out of which
5106 have been spent and 426894 are yet to come. Vikram samvat 2062 and shak
samvat 1927. Dwaparyuga ended with Mahabharat war. Unbelievable but this
is what Indian calender is like. Controversies abound. West is slowly awakening
to Oriental sciences. It is possible that the above calender will also proven
right in future. Many a times I have been surprised by this ancient
nation's secrets.Ashutosh----- Original Message -----From: Juliana Swanson
<omhamsa (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>To: <valist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005
21:10Subject: [VA] Ashutosh> Hi Ashutosh,>> Re: "Ketu is a cruel planet(kroor
grah) but not a malefic (paap> grah)," will you enlighten us further on this
interesting point?>> Thanks also for sharing you fascinating points about the
history of> Indian astrology. Why is it that this subject remains so
maddeningly> controversial in all circles?>> Best regards,> Juliana>>>>> To
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Dear Dr. Dash,

Thank you for your email below. I have been reading your postings with great
interest. You are obviously a very well-read scholar, fully familiar with the
spiritual wealth of India.

I understand what you are trying to say about 'yugas within yugas'. Wheels
within wheels, as it were. I suppose the 24,000 year yuga cycle that Sri
Yukteswar has written about is just one segment of a greater cosmic cycle.

Regarding Swami Yogananda's reported response, "The Swamiji appreciated my
article”, it would appear that while Swami Yogananda may have
"appreciated" the article, he may not necessarily have agreed with or endorsed
it's contents. I suppose Masters like Swami Yogananda would be very tactful
and polite, they are not likely to bluntly say, "No, I don't agree with you."

Thank you for your very valued comments. With best regards.

Respectfully yours

Vaidun Vidyadhar
Tamworth, NSW
Australia
Email: vvidya (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au


From: valist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:valist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Dr.
Gurudatta DashSent: Sunday, 14 August 2005 22:06To:
valist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: [VA] on Yuga theory
dear sri vidyan
I have studied both Sri Yukteswara s view and that of traditional view. While it
is true that a great siddha like Sri Yukteswara s view is of paramount
importance , it would be not wise to place the traditional view and his views
as contrary to each other. In fact time and space are relative matters and Yugas
or cycles could be of varied length one contained in other. As in one year
cycles of months start and in months cycles of days, so also within one yuga
there may be other four Yugas in a type of cycle. I am not sure whether I am
very clear in my expression or not but that the diff. types of Yugas as
described by traditions and sri Yukteswara are not contradictory that I just
want to impress. There are so many things that is beyond our comprehension and
relativity of time and space surpass our limited imaginations. However I am no
authority on this subject and just joined you and Ashutosh for the shake of
discussion.

In this context I would ask you and others who are interested to study Yoga
Vasistha Ramayana where the relativity of time and space are explained in a
beautiful way.

Also I would quote the famous BV RAMAN from his Autobiography in relation to our discussion.

“ My contact with swami Yogaananda began in a surprising manner . One
Laurie Pratt …. Was writing a series of articles in Swami
Yogaananda‘s journal on the Yuga theory. She had reduced the ages of the
Yugas in ancient books in years to days. For instance she had been saying the
duration of Kali Yuga was not 432,000 years but day’s which means only
1200 years. Thus a Mahayuga according to her was 12000 years. I wrote to Swami
Yognanda refuting her theory and upholding the traditional ages. The Swamiji
appreciated my article***”

Thus you can see that this view is not rejected by Sri Yogaananda for when you
go in to higher realms you see apparently contradictory things happen.

Gurudatta Dash