Order of chakras in Lalitha sahasranama

I was wondering if there was any special significance to the order in

which the chakras are mentioned in the Lalitha Shasranama -

Vishudhdhi, Anahata, Manipura, Swadhistana, Mooladhara, Ajna and

Sahasrara. It just seemed odd that they were not listed in the

ascending or descending order.

Anyone with more insight?

why not take a look at Rasmi mala? It may give the clue.

murali_muralidhar <s.muralidhar wrote:I was wondering if there was any

special significance to the order in

which the chakras are mentioned in the Lalitha Shasranama -

Vishudhdhi, Anahata, Manipura, Swadhistana, Mooladhara, Ajna and

Sahasrara. It just seemed odd that they were not listed in the

ascending or descending order.

Anyone with more insight?

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Kochu-sir,

can you please elaborate? I am absolutely clueless about what you

anted to say here, and the question is very interesting. please!

thanks.

, sankara menon <kochu1tz>

wrote:

> why not take a look at Rasmi mala? It may give the clue.

>

> murali_muralidhar <s.muralidhar@a...> wrote:I was wondering if there

was any special significance to the order in

> which the chakras are mentioned in the Lalitha Shasranama -

> Vishudhdhi, Anahata, Manipura, Swadhistana, Mooladhara, Ajna and

> Sahasrara. It just seemed odd that they were not listed in the

> ascending or descending order.

>

> Anyone with more insight?

, sankara menon <kochu1tz>

wrote:

> why not take a look at Rasmi mala? It may give the clue.

>

> murali_muralidhar <s.muralidhar@a...> wrote:I was wondering if

there was any special significance to the order in

> which the chakras are mentioned in the Lalitha Shasranama -

> Vishudhdhi, Anahata, Manipura, Swadhistana, Mooladhara, Ajna and

> Sahasrara. It just seemed odd that they were not listed in the

> ascending or descending order.

>

> Anyone with more insight?

No! No! If you are not initiated you CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT

recite what more look at the Rasmi Mala! So says the scriptures. Now

we cannot go against the Scriptures eh! or bad omen will befall on all

of us. We do not want that to happen right? *** smiles *****

, "manoj_menon" <ammasmon@s...>

wrote:

> Kochu-sir,

>

> can you please elaborate? I am absolutely clueless about what you

> anted to say here, and the question is very interesting. please!

>

> thanks.

>

Im have this urge to be a busybody today. No apologies needed. First

you should go through the Lalitha Sahasranama. Not just recite it

verbally, but recite with an understanding. Look at the names

accordingly, that if you know about the chakras accordingly, then

only

maybe you understand what this is all about. Rasmi Mala, we have it

in

the group, but buried amongst those archives. That too if you know

how

to find it. Hehheee

Well, it is not so complex, if you look at the description of

devathas assigned to the chakras.

Vishudhdhi = Vadhanaika samanvidha = 1 face

Anahatha = Vadhanadhvaya = 2 faces

Manipura = Vadhanathraya samyuktha = 3 faces

swadhishtana = chaturvakthra-manohara = 4 beautiful faces

Mooladhaara = panchavakthra = 5 faces

Ajna = shadanana = 6 faces

Sahasrara = sarvavarNobashobitha = glows with all colors (no facial

count)

But sarvavarNoba shobitha= sarva + varNa + upa + shobitha. Counting

the aksharas in sanskrit a to ksha 50 up and 50 down (- may be Kochu

can give us a crash course in sanskrit and this interpretation)- upa

= 10. So 10 X 100 = 1000, the highest number in the above series and

also the hardest to attain state of Kundalini.

A nice combination of numbers and description of HER aspects. Just

another interpretation. :-)

, "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@s...>

wrote:

> , sankara menon

<kochu1tz>

> wrote:

> > why not take a look at Rasmi mala? It may give the clue.

> >

> > murali_muralidhar <s.muralidhar@a...> wrote:I was wondering if

> there was any special significance to the order in

> > which the chakras are mentioned in the Lalitha Shasranama -

> > Vishudhdhi, Anahata, Manipura, Swadhistana, Mooladhara, Ajna and

> > Sahasrara. It just seemed odd that they were not listed in the

> > ascending or descending order.

> >

> > Anyone with more insight?

>

>

>

> No! No! If you are not initiated you CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT

> recite what more look at the Rasmi Mala! So says the scriptures.

Now

> we cannot go against the Scriptures eh! or bad omen will befall on

all

> of us. We do not want that to happen right? *** smiles *****

I chant LS almost every day ( I try to chant it with

understanding the words ) I also thought about the

order of chakras . Murali thanks for asking that

question it is very interesting indeed ! sorry i dont

know what is the answer . someone mentioned Rasi Mala

? since it is such a initatiory subject i almost feel

apprehensive to ask but what is it ?

J.P

--- murali_muralidhar <s.muralidhar wrote:

> I was wondering if there was any special

> significance to the order in

> which the chakras are mentioned in the Lalitha

> Shasranama -

> Vishudhdhi, Anahata, Manipura, Swadhistana,

> Mooladhara, Ajna and

> Sahasrara. It just seemed odd that they were not

> listed in the

> ascending or descending order.

>

> Anyone with more insight?

>

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>

Of course you can... but why should one do it?

It would be literally like pouring water ona pot with earth only

without a seed in it.

This would be a very stupid act and a waste of ones precious precious

life time since no plant can grow from earth only there has to be a

seed planted first.

If you want to get the siddha deha by yourself which is possible

without the help of a teacher lineage, but than again you can not start

with the watering, you have to create the seed first by your own yoga

effort. In that case most probably "watering" would not use the LS.

>

> No! No! If you are not initiated you CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT

> recite what more look at the Rasmi Mala! So says the scriptures. Now

> we cannot go against the Scriptures eh! or bad omen will befall on

all

> of us. We do not want that to happen right? *** smiles *****

Dear All

I'm not sure what I say has much significance to the L S

in kundalini Tantra by swami Satyananda there is a coarse set out that

begins with stimulating agna chakra

then works down the shushumna.

Why he says begin at agna, is that as one begins to clear or open the lower

centres because of agnas stimulation a detached attitude is acquired

if any one has practiced the kriya form of kechari mudra with ujiay

pranayama also develops a detached attitude

the lower centres stir up a lot of emotional and sexual desire. Positive as

well as negative samkaras to boot

The best way to deal with these samkaras is with a detached attitude.

How ever the reason you need to be initiated is because the guru needs to

know your real hearts desire and help you along your course he she knows

when your ready.

Any one who wishes to play with the Kundalini, should consult a master with

first hand experience.Or have thorough (not blind) faith in there god or

religious doctrine.

John Mathieson

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"joanna pollner" <joannapollner

<>

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:25 PM

Re: Order of chakras in Lalitha sahasranama

>I chant LS almost every day ( I try to chant it with

> understanding the words ) I also thought about the

> order of chakras . Murali thanks for asking that

> question it is very interesting indeed ! sorry i dont

> know what is the answer . someone mentioned Rasi Mala

> ? since it is such a initatiory subject i almost feel

> apprehensive to ask but what is it ?

>

> J.P

>

> --- murali_muralidhar <s.muralidhar wrote:

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>> I was wondering if there was any special

>> significance to the order in

>> which the chakras are mentioned in the Lalitha

>> Shasranama -

>> Vishudhdhi, Anahata, Manipura, Swadhistana,

>> Mooladhara, Ajna and

>> Sahasrara. It just seemed odd that they were not

>> listed in the

>> ascending or descending order.

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>> Anyone with more insight?

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Dear John

My Guru recommends chanting the Stotra , and promised

to initate me into mantra , thus i understand I can

chant it . thanks for your response. joannaP

--- john mathieson <j.mathieson

wrote:

> Dear All

> I'm not sure what I say has much significance to the

> L S

> in kundalini Tantra by swami Satyananda there is a

> coarse set out that

> begins with stimulating agna chakra

> then works down the shushumna.

> Why he says begin at agna, is that as one begins to

> clear or open the lower

> centres because of agnas stimulation a detached

> attitude is acquired

> if any one has practiced the kriya form of kechari

> mudra with ujiay

> pranayama also develops a detached attitude

> the lower centres stir up a lot of emotional and

> sexual desire. Positive as

> well as negative samkaras to boot

> The best way to deal with these samkaras is with a

> detached attitude.

>

> How ever the reason you need to be initiated is

> because the guru needs to

> know your real hearts desire and help you along your

> course he she knows

> when your ready.

> Any one who wishes to play with the Kundalini,

> should consult a master with

> first hand experience.Or have thorough (not blind)

> faith in there god or

> religious doctrine.

> John Mathieson

>

> -

> "joanna pollner" <joannapollner

> <>

> Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:25 PM

> Re: Order of chakras in

> Lalitha sahasranama

>

>

> >I chant LS almost every day ( I try to chant it

> with

> > understanding the words ) I also thought about the

> > order of chakras . Murali thanks for asking that

> > question it is very interesting indeed ! sorry i

> dont

> > know what is the answer . someone mentioned Rasi

> Mala

> > ? since it is such a initatiory subject i almost

> feel

> > apprehensive to ask but what is it ?

> >

> > J.P

> >

> > --- murali_muralidhar <s.muralidhar

> wrote:

> >

> >> I was wondering if there was any special

> >> significance to the order in

> >> which the chakras are mentioned in the Lalitha

> >> Shasranama -

> >> Vishudhdhi, Anahata, Manipura, Swadhistana,

> >> Mooladhara, Ajna and

> >> Sahasrara. It just seemed odd that they were not

> >> listed in the

> >> ascending or descending order.

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> >> Anyone with more insight?

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Thank you. That makes sense.

But then the question is transferred to a different level - why the

number of faces assigned to the deities does not show a pattern with

respect to the order of the chakras. Should it?

, "ganpra" <ganpra@r...> wrote:

> Well, it is not so complex, if you look at the description of

> devathas assigned to the chakras.

>

> Vishudhdhi = Vadhanaika samanvidha = 1 face

> Anahatha = Vadhanadhvaya = 2 faces

> Manipura = Vadhanathraya samyuktha = 3 faces

> swadhishtana = chaturvakthra-manohara = 4 beautiful faces

> Mooladhaara = panchavakthra = 5 faces

> Ajna = shadanana = 6 faces

> Sahasrara = sarvavarNobashobitha = glows with all colors (no

facial

> count)

>

> But sarvavarNoba shobitha= sarva + varNa + upa + shobitha.

Counting

> the aksharas in sanskrit a to ksha 50 up and 50 down (- may be

Kochu

> can give us a crash course in sanskrit and this interpretation)-

upa

> = 10. So 10 X 100 = 1000, the highest number in the above series

and

> also the hardest to attain state of Kundalini.

>

> A nice combination of numbers and description of HER aspects. Just

> another interpretation. :-)

>

>

> , "NMadasamy"

<nmadasamy@s...>

> wrote:

> > , sankara menon

> <kochu1tz>

> > wrote:

> > > why not take a look at Rasmi mala? It may give the clue.

> > >

> > > murali_muralidhar <s.muralidhar@a...> wrote:I was wondering if

> > there was any special significance to the order in

> > > which the chakras are mentioned in the Lalitha Shasranama -

> > > Vishudhdhi, Anahata, Manipura, Swadhistana, Mooladhara, Ajna

and

> > > Sahasrara. It just seemed odd that they were not listed in

the

> > > ascending or descending order.

> > >

> > > Anyone with more insight?

> >

> >

> >

> > No! No! If you are not initiated you CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT

> > recite what more look at the Rasmi Mala! So says the scriptures.

> Now

> > we cannot go against the Scriptures eh! or bad omen will befall

on

> all

> > of us. We do not want that to happen right? *** smiles *****

, "murali_muralidhar"

<s.muralidhar@a...> wrote:

> Thank you. That makes sense.

>

> But then the question is transferred to a different level - why the

> number of faces assigned to the deities does not show a pattern with

> respect to the order of the chakras. Should it?

>

>

As Kochu said earlier : the answer is in the Rashmi Mala.