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Old 11-13-2006, 11:55 AM   #1

otto_fender
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Sat Nam,

I have recently completed 40 days of 'prana-apana balance' which was
preceded by a few months of nabhi kriya. I now wish to start a kriya
for the heart, probably 'heart of gold' but am worried that my navel
will weaken because I won't be working on it any more. Can anyone
recommend any quick exercises that I could do in my warm up to set the
navel? Would stretch pose be sufficient?

Thanks in advance

otto

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Old 11-14-2006, 10:07 AM   #2

Kathleen
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Sat Nam Otto,

Isn't Nabhi kriya empowering! There is a beautiful kriya I use for
setting the navel and opening the heart- Nabhi kriya for Prana-Apana,
it is a joy to practice. You can find it on line, or in the book_The
Kundalini Yoga Experience, Bringing, Body, Mind, and Spirit Together,
written by Guru Dharam S. Khalsa and Darryl O'Keefe.(page 81).
I've been using this and Nabhi kriya for 60 days and feeling empowered
with an open heart is quite an experience. More love and awareness in
life!
Another idea that I use is simply continue with the Nabhi Kriya and add
your "Heart meditation", I've used this kriya a preparatory to
meditation and it works very well indeed. The meditation the
Gururattana taught in NM Being for Opening the Heart is really a good
one to try as well. Stretch pose is great to add to your warm-ups, the
Transitions To A Heart Centered World has many warmup exercises to
choose from, you can be creative according to following the
instructions.

Enjoy, be well.
Kathleen

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Old 11-14-2006, 12:29 PM   #3

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Sat Nam
Otto,

IN Gururattan book Your Life is in you Chakras on page 149, the warm
ups for meditation set in section D is titled Set the navel. The
whole set could be used for your daily Sadhana. Check out the book
there is also all kinds of sets and mediations and affirmations. I
hope this helps.
Peace Love & All Light,
Guru Sadhana Seva
Philadelphia,PA




--- In Kundaliniyoga (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "otto_fender" wrote:
>
> Sat Nam,
>
> I have recently completed 40 days of 'prana-apana balance' which was
> preceded by a few months of nabhi kriya. I now wish to start a kriya
> for the heart, probably 'heart of gold' but am worried that my navel
> will weaken because I won't be working on it any more. Can anyone
> recommend any quick exercises that I could do in my warm up to set the
> navel? Would stretch pose be sufficient?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> otto
>


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Old 11-14-2006, 02:45 PM   #4

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Enjoy the honeymoon while it lasts. In my experience lower chakra issues are brought up by nabhi kriya and I lost interest because the enrgetic feelings of bliss were no longer happening as before. I did Nabhi for 4 months. I bet if i worked through the pain the reward would have been even greater though. The stomach is major brain and nerve center that does need to be strengthened. I kind of wish my mom didn´t feed me formula which gaves me colic and allergies during early infantcy ¨cause breastfeeding was for the poor.¨ I´m sure my stomach has a whole slew of demons waiting to be exorcised and naval work is just the ticket. Just remember emotions of pain come up you are blessed it means you are working through these obstavles to become a better person. I´ve heard stretch pose can be lengthened to 11mins. Feel the burn of transformation!!! Anyone done this nabhi kriya for 1 years or more? Tell us about it.- Chris


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Old 11-15-2006, 07:43 AM   #5

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Sat Nam all,

Thanks for your advice, im a bit spoiled for choice now!

I originally worked Nabhi up to about half the maximum times, I had
intended to work it up to the maximum times then do it for a further 40
days but I injured my back so leg lifts are a bit of a struggle now. I
then completed 40 days of prana-apana balance and thought it was time
to focus on the the heart but im not sure if i've done enough work on
the navel.

I checked out the nabhi kriya for prana-apana, it had an instant
appeal. It looks like it will give me the best of both worlds and it
could be a good continuation from the kriya for prana-apana balance.

Thanks again

Otto

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Old 11-15-2006, 09:56 PM   #6

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Sat Nam Otto,

Did you injure your back doing the kriya or in another area of your
life? I hope you don't mind me asking but I am curious.

I too can recommend Nabhi Kriya for Prana Apana, it is a fantastic set
- 1st 1/2 really strong navel work & the 2nd half is a flowing heart
centred meditation which really allows you to work with the energy
released from the navel earlier in the set. The other option which
could work is pranayam (remember the home of prana is the heart
chakra), warm up, stretch pose (set the navel), sat kriya (release
stored navel energy), with a heart centred meditation to distribute &
assimilate the released navel energy for e.g meditation for a calm
heart is v powerful & healing. Just a thought.

In love & light,
Gurubala, Sydney OZ

--- In Kundaliniyoga (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "otto_fender" wrote:
>
> Sat Nam all,
>
> Thanks for your advice, im a bit spoiled for choice now!
>
> I originally worked Nabhi up to about half the maximum times, I had
> intended to work it up to the maximum times then do it for a further 40
> days but I injured my back so leg lifts are a bit of a struggle now. I
> then completed 40 days of prana-apana balance and thought it was time
> to focus on the the heart but im not sure if i've done enough work on
> the navel.
>
> I checked out the nabhi kriya for prana-apana, it had an instant
> appeal. It looks like it will give me the best of both worlds and it
> could be a good continuation from the kriya for prana-apana balance.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Otto
>


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Old 11-17-2006, 07:31 AM   #7

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Sat Nam Gurubala,

I initially injured my back whilst doing cobra pose (through lack of
attention!). I rested for a while and the pain subsided but I then
further injured it through lifting.

I started the nabhi kriya for prana-apana with the minimum times
yesterday, so far so good. Looking forward to day 40!

Is following the kriya with a heart meditation recommended? Or would
I be better doing one for the neutral mind (I have a 4 and a 7 in the
challenging positions of my numerology chart).

Many Thanks

Otto

--- In Kundaliniyoga (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Gurubala"
wrote:
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> Sat Nam Otto,
>
> Did you injure your back doing the kriya or in another area of your
> life? I hope you don't mind me asking but I am curious.
>
> I too can recommend Nabhi Kriya for Prana Apana, it is a fantastic

set
> - 1st 1/2 really strong navel work & the 2nd half is a flowing heart
> centred meditation which really allows you to work with the energy
> released from the navel earlier in the set. The other option which
> could work is pranayam (remember the home of prana is the heart
> chakra), warm up, stretch pose (set the navel), sat kriya (release
> stored navel energy), with a heart centred meditation to distribute

&
> assimilate the released navel energy for e.g meditation for a calm
> heart is v powerful & healing. Just a thought.
>
> In love & light,
> Gurubala, Sydney OZ


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Old 11-20-2006, 01:19 AM   #8

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Hey Otto,

Backs are tricky things aren't they? I guess you are getting a few
messages now to be mindful of yours, I hope you recover well. A
strong nabhi will help protect your lower spine that is for sure.

It sounds like you already know what meditation to do! Personally, I
find the kriya pretty complete as it is. My heart chakra feels
balanced & open from the 2nd part of the kriya, so see how yours
feels & if you feel like you need a little more for the heart upon
completeing the kriya go for it.

As for the neutral mind meditation, if its in a challenging position
in your chart it is likely that sooner or later on your KY path you
will find yourself working with it, just when that is is up to you.
As Yogi Bhajan says, "now is the time & the time is now", you'll
know when its the now for the work you need to do, trust your inner
teacher you sound like you are doing great.

In love & light,
Gurubala
--- In Kundaliniyoga (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "otto_fender"
wrote:
>
> Sat Nam Gurubala,
>
> I initially injured my back whilst doing cobra pose (through lack

of
> attention!). I rested for a while and the pain subsided but I then
> further injured it through lifting.
>
> I started the nabhi kriya for prana-apana with the minimum times
> yesterday, so far so good. Looking forward to day 40!
>
> Is following the kriya with a heart meditation recommended? Or

would
> I be better doing one for the neutral mind (I have a 4 and a 7 in

the
> challenging positions of my numerology chart).
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Otto
>
> --- In Kundaliniyoga (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Gurubala"
> wrote:
> >
> > Sat Nam Otto,
> >
> > Did you injure your back doing the kriya or in another area of

your
> > life? I hope you don't mind me asking but I am curious.
> >
> > I too can recommend Nabhi Kriya for Prana Apana, it is a

fantastic
> set
> > - 1st 1/2 really strong navel work & the 2nd half is a flowing

heart
> > centred meditation which really allows you to work with the

energy
> > released from the navel earlier in the set. The other option

which
> > could work is pranayam (remember the home of prana is the heart
> > chakra), warm up, stretch pose (set the navel), sat kriya

(release
> > stored navel energy), with a heart centred meditation to

distribute
> &
> > assimilate the released navel energy for e.g meditation for a

calm
> > heart is v powerful & healing. Just a thought.
> >
> > In love & light,
> > Gurubala, Sydney OZ

>


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Old 11-22-2006, 11:00 AM   #9

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Sat Nam Gurubala,

Im not too sure how to tell if my heart centre is open after the
Kriya, all I know is I feel better for doing it! I maybe don't have
the awareness yet.

I've decided to do the the dhrib dhristi meditation after the kriya
that GuruRattana outlined in NMB Libra. I know i'll have to work on
my numerological challenges at some point so better sooner rather
than later i guess! I feel that I've got a good balanced sadhana now.
Morning sadhana consists of nabhi, heart and neutral mind exercises
and the evening set consists of aura work (my other challenge number
is 7). My inner world is starting to open up a bit for me now, I know
im at the start of a long journey but am excited to see how things
will progress over time.

Love to all,
Otto
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wrote:
>
> Hey Otto,
>
> Backs are tricky things aren't they? I guess you are getting a few
> messages now to be mindful of yours, I hope you recover well. A
> strong nabhi will help protect your lower spine that is for sure.
>
> It sounds like you already know what meditation to do! Personally,

I
> find the kriya pretty complete as it is. My heart chakra feels
> balanced & open from the 2nd part of the kriya, so see how yours
> feels & if you feel like you need a little more for the heart upon
> completeing the kriya go for it.
>
> As for the neutral mind meditation, if its in a challenging

position
> in your chart it is likely that sooner or later on your KY path you
> will find yourself working with it, just when that is is up to you.
> As Yogi Bhajan says, "now is the time & the time is now", you'll
> know when its the now for the work you need to do, trust your inner
> teacher you sound like you are doing great.
>
> In love & light,
> Gurubala


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