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This is a quote from Swami Vivekanada, that was posted on the Amritapuri blog site:

 

“You all rejoice that you belong to a race of the great sages. But until those who belong to the upper classes help to uplift the downtrodden and until exploitation ends, India will only be a grave. May Mother India step forth anew from the humble dwelling of the peasant! May she appear in the HOUSE OF THE FISHERMAN! May the song of New India echo and reverberate amidst mountains and in forests and valleys”.

 

Looks as if his words came to pass.

 

 

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Ammachi, Sweta Mitzel <swetabc wrote:

>

> This is a quote from Swami Vivekanada, that was posted on the

Amritapuri blog site:

>

> "You all rejoice that you belong to a race of the great sages. But

until those who belong to the upper classes help to uplift the

downtrodden and until exploitation ends, India will only be a grave.

May Mother India step forth anew from the humble dwelling of the

peasant! May she appear in the HOUSE OF THE FISHERMAN! May the song of

New India echo and reverberate amidst mountains and in forests and

valleys".

>

> Looks as if his words came to pass.

>

>

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

 

Namaskarams!

 

actually it is not all that surprising that vivekanandaji might have

predicted Mother's birth and coming to America. After all in 1893, he

told a young American man that he would meet his guru later, and that

he would recognise this by a silver cup that the guru would give the

young man.

 

apparently the story goes that when the young man was a young child,

he fell into a mill pond and was drowning, when in a flash of light a

man appeared and saved him....12 years later he was walking down the

street in Chicago with his mother (in 1893) when in a flash of light

a man again appeared (the same man who had saved him when younger),

and the man walked down the street (with the young man and mother

following)...and into an auditorium, where he gave a rousing spiritual

talk. that man was Sw. Vivekananda, and after the talk, the young man

went up to see him, at which the swami jokingly said "be careful

around Mill ponds", and when the young man wanted to take him for his

teacher, he referred the young man to another guru yet to

come...saying "i am not your Guru, your Guru is yet to come, and you

will know Him by the silver cup He will give you"

 

in 1920, Paramahamsa Yogananda came to America, and the man joined his

group of spiritual aspirants....however over the years he wondered

about the earlier swami's prediction of the silver cup....

 

in 1935-6 Yogananda went on a tour through Europe and to India to

visit his Guru Sw. Sri Yukteswarji one last time....when he returned

to America in 1936, he brought many gifts for his beloved devotees,

which he gave them at Christmas time that year...and what did he give

that formerly young man? a silver cup....forty three years after the

prediction!!

 

not only that, when vivekananda made that prediction about the young

man's Guru being yet to come...that future Guru, Yogananda had only

just been born that January of 1893, and was about six months old at

the time of the prediction.

 

i think that Mother Kali sent sw. vivekananda first, then P. Yogananda

next...to prepare America for Her coming...both were fervent devotees

of Mother Kali (vivekananda not at first, but only after being with

his Guru, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, and having experience of Her Power

and Her Love, and Her Darshan at the Dakshineswar Temple)...and

Yogananda didn't talk much about Kali Ma, but was an intensely strong

devotee of Her, especially in his younger years, when he used to

frequently visit the Dakshineswar Temple complex to have Her

darshan...see the Autobiography of a Yogi for stories....not only

that, but Yogananda had a loving relationship with Master Mahasaya as

he calls him, who was the biographer of Sri Ramakrishna in the form of

the book the "Sri Ramakrishna Kathamrita" known as the "Gospel of Sri

Ramakrishna" to us westerners...and under the pen name "M" for

Mahendranath Gupta...

 

so there is a continuing link with the Dakshineswari Bhavatarini

KaliMa through these men, and even through our Amma, Who walked the

same path there as Sarada Ma used to do all the time...and Who after

Darshan of Bhavatarini Kalima, commissioned the same family of

sculptors, who had carved the original Kali Murti for the temple, to

carve Her sister, the Amritapuri Bhavatarini Kali Ma Murti, Who reigns

in splendor at Amma's Amritapuri Temple.....

 

so it does not suprise me at all if Sw. Vivekanandaji (who was

invested fully with Mother Kali's Sakti from his Guru...he said that

after that She never left him in a moment's peace...she drove him into

the ground and into an early grave (age 39))...should have prophesied

Amma's birth from a fisherman's family so long before the event....

 

anyone who may have read all this before in this child's ravings,

please forgive me....it's such a favourite story of mine!

 

when i showed Amma a composite picture from the Dakshineswar Temple

(given me by a dear friend recently returned from the Temple), which

also had the pictures of Sri Ramakrishna and his beloved Sarada Devi

on it, and i said to Her..."Kali...this is YOU, Amma!!"....She replied

some what matter of factly "Yah Kali!"

and immediately got on with the darshan.....so i took it that She was

suprised that it took me so long to figure it all out...and that it

was all old news by that time....(1999)...which of course it

was...only i was so innocent!

 

in Amma's Divine Love

and in Her Service,

as ever,

your own Self,

visvanathan

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

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thank you visvanathan

thank you very much !

 

amma bless,

amarnath

 

Ammachi, "kasi_visvanath"

<kasi_visvanath wrote:

>

> Ammachi, Sweta Mitzel <swetabc@> wrote:

> >

> > This is a quote from Swami Vivekanada, that was posted on the

> Amritapuri blog site:

> >

> > "You all rejoice that you belong to a race of the great sages.

But

> until those who belong to the upper classes help to uplift the

> downtrodden and until exploitation ends, India will only be a

grave.

> May Mother India step forth anew from the humble dwelling of the

> peasant! May she appear in the HOUSE OF THE FISHERMAN! May the

song of

> New India echo and reverberate amidst mountains and in forests and

> valleys".

> >

> > Looks as if his words came to pass.

> >

> >

> Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

>

> Namaskarams!

>

> actually it is not all that surprising that vivekanandaji might

have

> predicted Mother's birth and coming to America. After all in 1893,

he

> told a young American man that he would meet his guru later, and

that

> he would recognise this by a silver cup that the guru would give

the

> young man.

>

> apparently the story goes that when the young man was a young

child,

> he fell into a mill pond and was drowning, when in a flash of

light a

> man appeared and saved him....12 years later he was walking down

the

> street in Chicago with his mother (in 1893) when in a flash of

light

> a man again appeared (the same man who had saved him when younger),

> and the man walked down the street (with the young man and mother

> following)...and into an auditorium, where he gave a rousing

spiritual

> talk. that man was Sw. Vivekananda, and after the talk, the young

man

> went up to see him, at which the swami jokingly said "be careful

> around Mill ponds", and when the young man wanted to take him for

his

> teacher, he referred the young man to another guru yet to

> come...saying "i am not your Guru, your Guru is yet to come, and

you

> will know Him by the silver cup He will give you"

>

> in 1920, Paramahamsa Yogananda came to America, and the man joined

his

> group of spiritual aspirants....however over the years he wondered

> about the earlier swami's prediction of the silver cup....

>

> in 1935-6 Yogananda went on a tour through Europe and to India to

> visit his Guru Sw. Sri Yukteswarji one last time....when he

returned

> to America in 1936, he brought many gifts for his beloved devotees,

> which he gave them at Christmas time that year...and what did he

give

> that formerly young man? a silver cup....forty three years after

the

> prediction!!

>

> not only that, when vivekananda made that prediction about the

young

> man's Guru being yet to come...that future Guru, Yogananda had only

> just been born that January of 1893, and was about six months old

at

> the time of the prediction.

>

> i think that Mother Kali sent sw. vivekananda first, then P.

Yogananda

> next...to prepare America for Her coming...both were fervent

devotees

> of Mother Kali (vivekananda not at first, but only after being with

> his Guru, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, and having experience of Her

Power

> and Her Love, and Her Darshan at the Dakshineswar Temple)...and

> Yogananda didn't talk much about Kali Ma, but was an intensely

strong

> devotee of Her, especially in his younger years, when he used to

> frequently visit the Dakshineswar Temple complex to have Her

> darshan...see the Autobiography of a Yogi for stories....not only

> that, but Yogananda had a loving relationship with Master Mahasaya

as

> he calls him, who was the biographer of Sri Ramakrishna in the

form of

> the book the "Sri Ramakrishna Kathamrita" known as the "Gospel of

Sri

> Ramakrishna" to us westerners...and under the pen name "M" for

> Mahendranath Gupta...

>

> so there is a continuing link with the Dakshineswari Bhavatarini

> KaliMa through these men, and even through our Amma, Who walked the

> same path there as Sarada Ma used to do all the time...and Who

after

> Darshan of Bhavatarini Kalima, commissioned the same family of

> sculptors, who had carved the original Kali Murti for the temple,

to

> carve Her sister, the Amritapuri Bhavatarini Kali Ma Murti, Who

reigns

> in splendor at Amma's Amritapuri Temple.....

>

> so it does not suprise me at all if Sw. Vivekanandaji (who was

> invested fully with Mother Kali's Sakti from his Guru...he said

that

> after that She never left him in a moment's peace...she drove him

into

> the ground and into an early grave (age 39))...should have

prophesied

> Amma's birth from a fisherman's family so long before the event....

>

> anyone who may have read all this before in this child's ravings,

> please forgive me....it's such a favourite story of mine!

>

> when i showed Amma a composite picture from the Dakshineswar Temple

> (given me by a dear friend recently returned from the Temple),

which

> also had the pictures of Sri Ramakrishna and his beloved Sarada

Devi

> on it, and i said to Her..."Kali...this is YOU, Amma!!"....She

replied

> some what matter of factly "Yah Kali!"

> and immediately got on with the darshan.....so i took it that She

was

> suprised that it took me so long to figure it all out...and that it

> was all old news by that time....(1999)...which of course it

> was...only i was so innocent!

>

> in Amma's Divine Love

> and in Her Service,

> as ever,

> your own Self,

> visvanathan

>

> Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

>

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So is this Lahiri Mahasaya? Thanks for these stories.

 

Max

 

>Yogananda had a loving relationship with Master Mahasaya as

>he calls him, who was the biographer of Sri Ramakrishna in the form of

>the book the "Sri Ramakrishna Kathamrita" known as the "Gospel of Sri

>Ramakrishna" to us westerners...and under the pen name "M" for

>Mahendranath Gupta...

 

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Namah Shivaya,

 

Looks as if he isn't Lahiri Mahasaya, according to both the Autobiography of a Yogi, & The Gospel of Sri Rama Krishna. The Gospel of Sri Rama Krishna states his name as Mahendranath Gupta, or "M" who recorded Sri Ramakrishna's biography in Bengali. Autobiography of a Yogi shows the same man's photo, & calls him Master Mahasaya. It also makes s reference to him being a disciple of Sri Ramakrishna Paramhansa.

 

Sweta

 

Max Dashu <maxdashu (AT) lmi (DOT) net> wrote: So is this Lahiri Mahasaya? Thanks for these stories.

 

Max

 

>Yogananda had a loving relationship with Master Mahasaya as

>he calls him, who was the biographer of Sri Ramakrishna in the form of

>the book the "Sri Ramakrishna Kathamrita" known as the "Gospel of Sri

>Ramakrishna" to us westerners...and under the pen name "M" for

>Mahendranath Gupta...

 

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Ammachi, Max Dashu <maxdashu wrote:

>

> So is this Lahiri Mahasaya? Thanks for these stories.

>

> Max

>

> >Yogananda had a loving relationship with Master Mahasaya as

> >he calls him, who was the biographer of Sri Ramakrishna in the form of

> >the book the "Sri Ramakrishna Kathamrita" known as the "Gospel of Sri

> >Ramakrishna" to us westerners...and under the pen name "M" for

> >Mahendranath Gupta...

>

OM Amrtesvaryai Namah!

 

Namaskarams!

 

no it is not Lahiri Mahasaya...Mahasaya is a TITLE, not a personal

name....Lahiri Mahasaya was one of the foremost teachers of the Kriya

yoga as revealed by Mahavatar Babaji to Him in those days...

 

M, or Master Mahasaya as Yogananda called him was actually a Sakta,

and a school teacher by trade, by the name of Mahendranath Gupta...he

taught children in his school, and taught Yogananda some aspects of

Sakta tantrika faith. He was a great devotee of the Bhavatarini Kali

of Dakshineswar also, and was a link between Sri Ramakrishna and

Yogananda, as well as being the writer of the Gospel of Sri

Ramakrishna, which brings Sri Ramakrishna's daily doings down to us in

these latter days...if you read the gospel, you will find that it is

very similar in many ways to Amma's Awaken Children books..

 

in Her Divine Love,

and in Her Service,

as ever,

your own Self,

 

visvanathan

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

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The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna is a great book, and readers

definitely get a kali ma darshan!

 

I also highly recommend any of the older books about Ananda Mayi Ma.

Very very inspiring

 

Peace,

Chris

 

 

> Namaskarams!

>

> no it is not Lahiri Mahasaya...Mahasaya is a TITLE, not a personal

> name....Lahiri Mahasaya was one of the foremost teachers of the

Kriya

> yoga as revealed by Mahavatar Babaji to Him in those days...

>

> M, or Master Mahasaya as Yogananda called him was actually a Sakta,

> and a school teacher by trade, by the name of Mahendranath

Gupta...he

> taught children in his school, and taught Yogananda some aspects of

> Sakta tantrika faith. He was a great devotee of the Bhavatarini

Kali

> of Dakshineswar also, and was a link between Sri Ramakrishna and

> Yogananda, as well as being the writer of the Gospel of Sri

> Ramakrishna, which brings Sri Ramakrishna's daily doings down to

us in

> these latter days...if you read the gospel, you will find that it

is

> very similar in many ways to Amma's Awaken Children books..

>

> in Her Divine Love,

> and in Her Service,

> as ever,

> your own Self,

>

> visvanathan

> Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

>

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Namah Shivaya Vishvanathan,

Thankyou for posting the story about Amma at Dakshineshwar.

I am wondering if you could tell me where this has been documented?

Or is it one of those stories that have circulated around her over

the years?

I have often wondered about those two lines in Amma's 108 Names that

refer to Sri Sarada Devi and Sri Ramakrishna.

In Amma,

Nirmala

 

Ammachi, "kasi_visvanath" <kasi_visvanath

wrote:

>

> Ammachi, "wakkamann" <Hardisigi14@> wrote:

> >

> > Ammachi, "kasi_visvanath"

<kasi_visvanath@>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

> > >

> > > Namaskarams!

> > >

> > > when i showed Amma a composite picture from the Dakshineswar

Temple

> > > (given me by a dear friend recently returned from the Temple),

which

> > > also had the pictures of Sri Ramakrishna and his beloved Sarada

Devi

> > > on it, and i said to Her..."Kali...this is YOU, Amma!!"....She

> > replied

> > > some what matter of factly "Yah Kali!"

> > > and immediately got on with the darshan.....so i took it that

She

> > was

> > > suprised that it took me so long to figure it all out...and

that it

> > > was all old news by that time....(1999)...which of course it

> > > was...only i was so innocent!

> > >

> > >> visvanathan

> >

> >

> > When I googled under "amma" I also found a german site from a

> > previous devotee, telling that amma has realized that Kali is

only a

> > damon. Now, you interpret her reply on your words "Kali…this is

YOU,

> > Amma!!" as some what matter of factly "Yah Kali!" and immediately

got

> > on with the darshan… I really hope that this is true like your

> > comment that you said only"…old news…"

> >

> Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!

>

> Namaskarams~!

>

> i believe that you need to read a LOT more of Amma's books, and the

> books of Her devotees, before you might come to any conclusions

> regarding Amma as Kali...also it would be helpful if you would have

> your own personal experiences in this department, as Sweta

mentioned,

> wherein she said that many of Amma's devotees have experienced

visions

> of Amma as Kali.

>

> Kali is considered a demon by some folks, (especially vaishava

> types)...but that Kali is not in the feminine form as far as i can

> remember...our Kali is in the feminine form and is NOT a demon, but

> rather the destroyer of Demons, Who appeared fully armed from the

> forehead of an Angry Mother Durga during a battle with the demon

> Raktabija (one version of Her appearance that is...)

>

> devotees of Kali Herself, will claim that Kali is really the Adi

Para

> Sakti, She from Whom the whole universe and all its beings proceed.

>

> Mother has actually told many stories which hint at Her as being an

> incarnation of Mother Kali...although She will not usually make any

> direct claims in this or any other department.

>

> but really She says that in whichever form of the Divine you call

and

> long for, that is the form in which the Divine will manifest before

> you when you call and call and call with weeping eyes and a longing

heart.

>

> in my case, i had been calling Divine Mother for a year or so, in

the

> peaceful form as shown in Paramahansa Yogananda's "How to Talk with

> God" book....She looks very peaceful in that picture, much like

Mother

> Laksmi...i was following Yogananda's advice to call and call, crying

> out with a longing heart...

>

> however if you remember WHO Yogananda's Divine Mother really is, you

> will remember that She is really Mother Kali, the Beloved Deity

that

> He worshipped most all of His life (privately...publically he was

> worshipping Krishna and Christ)...when He was a little boy he used

to

> always make statues of Mother Kali...and when He was a little older,

> he used to spend as much time as he could at the Dakshineswar Kali

> Temple, meditating upon and praying to Dakshineswari Bhavatarini

> Kali...and too, he had many experiences of Her darshan, and Her

help,

> throughout His life...so when he used to speak of Divine Mother,

> really we can think that He was referring to Divine Mother in the

form

> of Mother Kali.....

>

> Thus when i was calling Yogananda's Divine Mother to reveal

Herself, i

> was unwittingly calling upon His own Ishta Devata, Mother Kali to

> reveal Herself, even though disguised in the peaceful form....

>

> after calling Her for some time Who should appear in my life, but

> AMMACHI...She is the One Who answered my prayers, and She is the One

> Who was revealed to me as an Avatara of Divine Mother...and She is

the

> One Who has been revealed to me as an Avatara of the particular

Rupam

> (form) of Divine Mother as Mother Kali....

>

> thus it could be easy to understand that in my view Amma is none

other

> than an Avatara of Mother Kali, the Adi Para Sakti, the original

> Supreme Power.

>

> remember that when She was travelling through the Dakshineswar

Temple

> complex She took the exact same path, without being told by anyone,

> that Sarada Devi (Sri Ramakrishna's wife) used to take, and She

> (Sarada Devi) has revealed Herself many times by slips of the tongue

> (and by Her devotees) as an Avatara of Mother Kali. Even Mother Kali

> Herself called Sarada Devi "sister" one time when Sarada Devi had

> fever on Her way to Dakshineswar to marry Sri Ramakrishna.

>

> not only that, but when Amma had Darshan of the Dakshineswari

> Bhavatarini Kali Murti, She immediately requested the same family

who

> had carved the original Murthi, to carve a new One, Dakshineswari

> Bhavatarini Kali's Sister, Who as i said earlier, now reigns in

glory

> at Amritapuri in Amma's Temple...

>

> if this does not, in your mind, connect Amma with Sri Ramakrishna,

and

> Sarada Devi, and Mother Kali, i do not see what else i could say

about it.

>

> For me there is NO question but that my Ishta Devata, Mother Kali,

is

> currently living among us in the form of Sri Mata Amritanandamayi

Devi

> (Ammachi) in Amritapuri....Mother is SO dark, and often becomes even

> darker, even to the point of becoming a Blue Black colour, radiating

> Blissful Light from all over Her Body...Many devotees have seen Her

> like this...there are videos of Amma dancing in the Kali Bhava,

> swinging Her sword and trident around in an intoxicated dance, with

> tongue lolling out of Her mouth down to Her chin, just as in the

> pictures of Mother Kali....

>

> In Amma's Divine Love,

> and in Her Service,

> as ever,

> your own Self,

>

> visvanathan

>

> Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

>

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>.Mother is SO dark, and often becomes even

> darker, even to the point of becoming a Blue Black colour, >radiating

> Blissful Light from all over Her Body...

 

 

This is definitely the case!! Amma is proof that the scriptures about

these past avatars are correct, she is the embodiment of this divine

energy.

 

It is amazing to see.

 

Peace,

 

Chris

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Ammachi, "frangi888" <frangi888 wrote:

>

> Namah Shivaya Vishvanathan,

> Thankyou for posting the story about Amma at Dakshineshwar.

> I am wondering if you could tell me where this has been documented?

> Or is it one of those stories that have circulated around her over

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

 

Namaskarams!

 

actually i heard the narrator say it was so on one of the older Amma

videos which came out a few years ago, i don't remember which one it

was. Many of Amma's devotees, however, know this story...it is not

just one of those stories circulating around, because it was mentioned

on the video itself...thus it must be "official" information (at least

at the time it was!)...as i said, though, i can't remember which of

several videos it might be...perhaps one of the videos about the North

Indian tour from several years ago...like 1994 or 95, or 96...the one

where it shows Amma standing in the rushing waters of the Ganga at

Hardwar, singing sacred songs, and going into Samadhi,...it might be

that one, but i can't remember...it was a while ago that i saw it, and

haven't revisited it since...although i suppose i might if it became

worthwhile.

 

it seems a little strange, to me at least, that Amma would be so

interested in the Dakshineswari Bhavatarini Kali Murthi, that She

commissioned the same family who carved the orginal in the 1850's to

carve Her Sister, the Amritapuri Bhavatarini Kali Murthi, AFTER She

had darshan of the Deity, UNLESS there is a connection between Her and

Sri Ramakrsna and Sri Sarada Devi...S/he who has eyes to see, let

him/her see....S/he who has ears to hear, let him/her hear.

 

as for the "two" names in the Names equating Mother with Sri

Ramarkrishna and Sri Sarada Devi, you've gotten than one wrong, as

there are really FOUR of the names referring to those two...

and as i recall the story was that the author of the Names, Otoor Unni

krsna Namboodiripad had been a devotee of Sri Ramakrsna and Sri Sarada

Devi, and had been living at one of the Ramakrsna Maths when Amma came

through that town...When he met Amma if i recall properly, he saw

those two manifesting in Her, and asked if he could come and stay at

Her ashram with Her, stating that if he ever saw Her as Less than the

incarnation of those two Mahatmas he would leave immediately...as it

was he passed away in Amma's arms several years later...at Her ashram.

 

if you have any doubts about this, i would suggest seriously that you

actually READ the Sri Ramakrishna Gospel....and also read what the

Holy Mother Sri Sarada Devi was like...in a biography or two about

Her...also you can read the Holy Mother's gospel...and Her teachings...

if you actually DO READ these books, and more about that Divine

couple, you will not question the similarity between Amma and Them....

 

even the style of the books is quite similar between the Sri Ramakrsna

Kathamrita and Mother's Awaken children books...Mother's stories are

so similar to Bhagavan Sri Ramakrsna, and Sri Sarada Devi's

stories...Amma used to sing the same songs that Sri Ramakrsna and his

devotees used to sing...for example the "Manase nin svantamayi" (O

Mind become Surrendered)

 

Also as i wrote earlier, Sri Ramakrsna used to say that He would have

to take birth as a woman in His next life so that He could REALLY love

Sri Krsna!...as well he predicted that he would be reborn in about 100

years, and said that he might be found as a wandering musician in a

band of spiritual musicians, in the Northwest of the country, and with

a hookah! (he used to love the hookah and that's probably what killed

him...the throat cancer probably came from that tobacco smoking)...

 

welll.....if you were living in Gujerat, you would indeed have

discovered Amma in a band of travelling spiritual musicians, in the

northwest of India, as Gujerat is in the northwest of India...it just

depends upon WHO he was aiming those comments at...perhaps the person

he was talking to was to be reborn there in the northwest of

India...and as we know Amma travels all over India, with the swamis

and the travelling circus of devotees...thus She could indeed be found

in the northwest if you looked for Her there at the right time of year.

 

again referring to those names, they actually appear to be saying that

Amma is essentially the Adi Para Sakti, the ground of being....the

primordial Sakti, in which those two Mahatmas had their being and

their leelas...and that Sakti which indeed manifested in those days AS

those two Mahatmas...Maha Kali...so granting that Amma is an avatara

of Mother Kali, the Adi ParaSakti, then it would stand to reason that

those two Mahatmas would be grounded in Her Sakti and would be

manifesting Her Loving energy....because She alone is everything...the

whole universe with its creation and creatures, both Devas and

humans....when Bhagavan Sri Ramakrsna passed away, His beloved wife,

Sri Sarada Devi cried out: "O my Kali!!! where have you gone!"

Bhagavan Sri Ramarkrsna used also to view His own wife as an avatara

of the Divine Mother Kali, He even did a ritual Puja to Divine Mother

in the form of His wife one time.

 

hope this cleared up the understandings...

 

in Amma's Divine Love,

and in Her Service,

as ever,

your own Self,

 

visvanathan

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah

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Ammachi, "kasi_visvanath" <kasi_visvanath

wrote:

> Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!

>

> Namaskarams~!

>

> i believe that you need to read a LOT more of Amma's books, and the

> books of Her devotees, before you might come to any conclusions

> regarding Amma as Kali...also it would be helpful if you would have

> your own personal experiences in this department, as Sweta

mentioned,

> wherein she said that many of Amma's devotees have experienced

visions

> of Amma as Kali.

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

 

What shall I say?! Thanks for your explicite mail and also thanks to

all others who have experienced Amma as Kali. Thanks for opening my

eyes.I never read a book about or from Amma. So what I will do? Best

said in a mail I received: "Worshipping Kali in the form of Ammachi."

 

This answers also both dreams I had. I found my way to cross the

river and Wakkamann's words "...they are looking for you.."

means "...they are waiting...it's time to come."

 

Thanks again.

 

By the way do know if her books have been published in the German

language?

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

 

Sigi Hardi as Wakkamann

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