Amma's Comment on Cartoon

02-24-2006, 08:07 AM

Om Namah Shivaya:

This is the exact quote from Amritapuri.com
Amma said:

"Whatever it may be, when you insult
someone's form of worship, it will be
painful for them,If someone
draw's your wife or your mother in the nude
or in a ridiculing manner, is there anyone
who will not feel bad? No, they will be hurt.
Whether God exists or not is not the question.
They [the Muslims] have a certain sankalpa
[conviction] regarding God; if someone mocks
that, it will wound them.

Could discussion stay on Her words? Why go
off on the tangent of Arab "behavior"

Does Amma condone violence? Of course not.
However offensive cartoons are adharmic as well.
My two rupees worth again.

Namah Shivaya,

GeorgeSon

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02-24-2006, 09:06 AM

What is it that you don't understand? Please use your intelligence.
Amma is pretty much saying that people get hurt for various reasons
and they react based upon their samsakaras. She never says reaction is
good, she says respond but not react.

--- In Ammachi (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "jmcs_06" wrote:
>
>
> GeorgeSon, Many people and Amma devotees have a very hard time
> understanding why many devotees of the Muslim/Islamic religion
> condone and promote horrible violence in response to others'
> differing opinions in regards to differing outlooks in regard to
> their religion or politics... Perhaps Amma Herself needs to better
> explain to us what She thinks about this stuff--She holds us
> accountable for our thoughts and actions, and perhaps we too should
> hold Her accountable, as Satguru, for her words and explanations to
> us and to the world. She is notorious for telling/promising people
> things that don't come true, and for saying confusing, ambiguous
> things. I ask Amma to clear things so we all can better understand.
>
> Om Shanti,
> Jeanette/Kalika
>

02-24-2006, 09:14 AM

Namah Shivaya,
I think Mother was just trying to give us some understanding, and trying
to encourage us to be
better people.
The rest we have discussed before, and I ain't goin' there.
Jai Ma!
Prasadini

jmcs_06 wrote:
> --- In Ammachi (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, GeorgeSon wrote:
> >
> > Om Namah Shivaya:
> >
> > This is the exact quote from Amritapuri.com
> > Amma said:
> >
> > "Whatever it may be, when you insult
> > someone's form of worship, it will be
> > painful for them,If someone
> > draw's your wife or your mother in the nude
> > or in a ridiculing manner, is there anyone
> > who will not feel bad? No, they will be hurt.
> > Whether God exists or not is not the question.
> > They [the Muslims] have a certain sankalpa
> > [conviction] regarding God; if someone mocks
> > that, it will wound them.
> >
> > Could discussion stay on Her words? Why go
> > off on the tangent of Arab "behavior"
> >
> > Does Amma condone violence? Of course not.
> > However offensive cartoons are adharmic as well.
> > My two rupees worth again.
> >
> > Namah Shivaya,
> >
> > GeorgeSon
>
> GeorgeSon, Many people and Amma devotees have a very hard time
> understanding why many devotees of the Muslim/Islamic religion
> condone and promote horrible violence in response to others'
> differing opinions in regards to differing outlooks in regard to
> their religion or politics... Perhaps Amma Herself needs to better
> explain to us what She thinks about this stuff--She holds us
> accountable for our thoughts and actions, and perhaps we too should
> hold Her accountable, as Satguru, for her words and explanations to
> us and to the world. She is notorious for telling/promising people
> things that don't come true, and for saying confusing, ambiguous
> things. I ask Amma to clear things so we all can better understand.
>
> Om Shanti,
> Jeanette/Kalika
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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02-24-2006, 09:25 AM

Amma made briliant answer back, I dont understand what is there not to
understand ,
I mean the whole religious historical background of Semitic religions on the
overall is
certainly
very violent however so far violence or mockery from any point of view is not
the answer ,
Amma sad once beautifully " Revolution starts in heart " only then the
circumstances of the
world can change, it is a slow process after centuries of notorious hate wars
the change will
not happen overnight however with Amma's blessings it is a step forward . I
strongly belief
that if each one of us continues with prayers sadhana , compassionate behavior
in our
communities there is hope for change . At times it might seem overwhelming and
one might
feel hopeless that is why Amma is Here to give us strength and hope .

Namste Joanna

02-24-2006, 09:29 AM

Unfortunately I cannot, it's my samsakara to respond to anyone who
posts idiotic comments on my mother viz

* "condone and promote horrible violence"
* "hold Her accountable"
* "notorious for telling/promising things"
* "saying confusing, ambiguous things"

nothanks, Ravi

--- In Ammachi (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "jmcs_06" wrote:
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> Ravi, Please try to refrain from saying patronizing words
> like "please use your intelligence" in the future...thanks, J.
>

02-24-2006, 11:04 AM

--- In Ammachi (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "jmcs_06" wrote:
> She is notorious for telling/promising people
> things that don't come true, and for saying confusing, ambiguous
> things. I ask Amma to clear things so we all can better understand.
>
> Om Shanti,
> Jeanette/Kalika

Namaste Kalika,

What you said above, from all my 10.5 years experience with Amma, is
simply not the truth for me ~ or at least not the way you put it.
Sometimes, there is confusion on my part but if I hang in there,
things clear up.

What each one of us holds as the truth is obviously different because
our experiences are different and also our perceptions even of the
same experiences are different due to the filter of our different
egoic-minds( which all of us are trying to purify ).

Actually, my truth is just the opposite. When Amma told my partner
Samarpana that we could go to Amritapuri, India, for Her Birthday, I
thought that both of them were crazy( sorry Amma ). Let me explain,
Samarpana has fear of flying, fear of all public transportation, and
many phobias; the only way she got around was by driving ~ not someone
driving her but she has to be the driver. And there were other
considerations.

I really felt very tense, uncomfortable, fearful and did not know what
to do. A few days later, I called just to find out how much the
tickets were and ended up with two tickets to India.

Then I knew that I was crazy too and it did not matter because Amma
seemed to be in charge. This is where FAITH helps a lot. I am a worry-
er( not a warrior ) and to keep my sanity I simply had to surrender
feeling that Amma was the doer ~ this somehow gave me strenght.

Well, to make the long story short, we did it and stayed for 5.5
months rather than the 2 months we planned.

It was not easy and what got us througth was silently chanting almost
continuously our mantras, 108 names, 1000 names and praying a lot.

hope this helps.

Amma's Blessings,
amarnath
May All Beings Be Peaceful and Happy !