Re: [MillionPaths] The flaw with words

05-04-2005, 01:58 PM

Yes! Thank you Pieter for this reminder. We are blessed to have you participating here.
Without some hope that there is benefit to hearing such words spoken,
we would likely not have an email list to share quotes.

It is difficult when quotes are taken out of context. Sometimes they
sound more one-sided than they actually are, as a correction that
expresses a fuller point of view may be given later. I doubt that he
meant no one could speak from truth, as this would exclude himself.
:-) The way I hear the quote, Castenada is saying a reliance on
words alone will not be sufficient. How's that for spin?

Love,
Gloria
----- Original Message -----
From: Pieter
To: MillionPaths (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com ; namo ; HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: [MillionPaths] The flaw with words
There are some who go beyond words, who abide in Truth, and when they
speak and act, their Word is so powerful that the Truth within us
"hears" the Word, awakens, recollects, and abides in That Truth.

>From time to time people awaken, who live and speack and act from
beyond the mind, and say "I am the Truth," i.e.,"Sat Nam" and the
reverberation of that Living Word awakens all of us that can "hear."
Then the veil of Maya disipates, like the morning fog as the Sun
rises.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gloria Lee Gillian Eardley
To: path ; namo ; HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, allspiritinspiration
Sent: Wednesday, 04 May, 2005 6:47& 11:57 PM
Subject: [MillionPaths] Fw: [allspiritinspiration] The flaw with words

The flaw with words is that they always make us feel enlightened, but
when we turn around to face the world they always fail us and we end
up facing the world as we always have, without enlightenment. For
this reason, a warrior seeks to act rather than to talk...~Carlos
CastanedaQuoted in 'Half Way Up the Mountain - The Error of Premature
Claims to Enlightenment' by Mariana CaplanAllspirit Website:
http://www.allspirit.co.uk

05-04-2005, 08:07 PM

I saw a post someplace in which the person writing was commenting on
how many people that had read that the Truth is always realized, so
that there is no practice necessary, having understood this
intellectually, assume that they are also Self realized Beings, sort
of a Satre or Camus existential realization, similar to the idea that
by announcing that one is a Born Again Christian, i.e., that Christ is
a Savior, one is Saved, in both cases the result is a sort of
discarding of the practice of virtue, because either there are no
sins, and one can do whatever one likes, or because one is forever
forgiven and therefore one can do whatever one likes.

But Saviors emanate from beyond the veil. Therefore, their Word
reverberates throughout the fabric of time and space. This means
that when the heart (mind) becomes pure, it becomes possible to
"hear" them both in the action of their Lives and in their Words.
That part of us which is True, recognizes Itself, like someone with
amnesia, being told repeatedly and in many examples who they really
are, and suddenly there is a recognition, a "hearing," inward
reflection and abiding in That Truth, which entirely dissolves the
old notions, the old mind.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gloria Lee
To: MillionPaths (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com ; namo ; HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Thursday, 05 May, 2005 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MillionPaths] The flaw with words
Yes! Thank you Pieter for this reminder. We are blessed to have you participating here.
Without some hope that there is benefit to hearing such words spoken,
we would likely not have an email list to share quotes.

It is difficult when quotes are taken out of context. Sometimes they
sound more one-sided than they actually are, as a correction that
expresses a fuller point of view may be given later. I doubt that he
meant no one could speak from truth, as this would exclude himself.
:-) The way I hear the quote, Castenada is saying a reliance on
words alone will not be sufficient. How's that for spin?

Love,
Gloria
----- Original Message -----
From: Pieter
To: MillionPaths (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com ; namo ; HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: [MillionPaths] The flaw with words
There are some who go beyond words, who abide in Truth, and when they
speak and act, their Word is so powerful that the Truth within us
"hears" the Word, awakens, recollects, and abides in That Truth.

>From time to time people awaken, who live and speack and act from
beyond the mind, and say "I am the Truth," i.e.,"Sat Nam" and the
reverberation of that Living Word awakens all of us that can "hear."
Then the veil of Maya disipates, like the morning fog as the Sun
rises.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gloria Lee Gillian Eardley
To: path ; namo ; HarshaSatsangh (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, allspiritinspiration
Sent: Wednesday, 04 May, 2005 6:47& 11:57 PM
Subject: [MillionPaths] Fw: [allspiritinspiration] The flaw with words

The flaw with words is that they always make us feel enlightened, but
when we turn around to face the world they always fail us and we end
up facing the world as we always have, without enlightenment. For
this reason, a warrior seeks to act rather than to talk...~Carlos
CastanedaQuoted in 'Half Way Up the Mountain - The Error of Premature
Claims to Enlightenment' by Mariana CaplanAllspirit Website:
http://www.allspirit.co.uk