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> Beyond Yoga

 

Paul Brunton writes:

>

> The Maharshi is unvarying in his attitude towards psychic visions. Even

> when his disciples report that his own picture has appeared to them,

> transfigured in brilliant light, be counsels them to put aside all "form"

> and to remember that what is thus seen is perishable; what has an origin

> must have an end; it is the intuitive perception of the Self that must be

> seized.

>

> A devotee claimed he had gone to Mathura and seen Krishna in a vision. The

> Maharshi responded:

>

> M: The seer, the seen and the seeing were all one, all within yourself.

> Nobody else saw it. It was your own fancy, and yet it is also true that

> you really did see it.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul Brunton and Munagala

> Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai, South India.

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During medtation as a beginner i have visualise many

images. i have recorded about 200 images.

Some are in abstract form.

I dont know why such kind of images are seen during

meditation

namasivayam

--- Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

 

>

> > Beyond Yoga

>

> Paul Brunton writes:

> >

> > The Maharshi is unvarying in his attitude towards

> psychic visions. Even

> > when his disciples report that his own picture has

> appeared to them,

> > transfigured in brilliant light, be counsels them

> to put aside all "form"

> > and to remember that what is thus seen is

> perishable; what has an origin

> > must have an end; it is the intuitive perception

> of the Self that must be

> > seized.

> >

> > A devotee claimed he had gone to Mathura and seen

> Krishna in a vision. The

> > Maharshi responded:

> >

> > M: The seer, the seen and the seeing were all one,

> all within yourself.

> > Nobody else saw it. It was your own fancy, and

> yet it is also true that

> > you really did see it.

> >

> >

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > From the book, "Conscious Immortality" by Paul

> Brunton and Munagala

> > Venkataramiah, published by Sri Ramanasramam,

> Tiruvannamalai, South India.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Namasivayam,

 

There will be no answer to your question ... or many answers can be found ...

Some may have visions ... other don't have ... yet the meditator is always the same.

It may not be so important if there are visions or not ...

And if any surely one should not spend the time in counting them. This would be absurd.

This is like you are going through a street and count what you are seeing.

It may be a playful entertainment at times though.

 

Bhagavan advices to cling to the meditator, not to the visions.

The one who meditates is always there. This is good, isn't it? So one needs neither care

if visions nor if no visions.

 

Some say, visions may happen when meditation reaches a certain debth or is done intently. But here

someone else - more experienced - should then answer.

I myself had one vision-like experience once only ... which had to do with Bhagavan ...

and it never repeated :) I like to remember as it told something what is still felt

much important to be understood in Bhagavan's teaching. So the importance I feel is not in the

happening of the vision - but what it was pointing to.

 

In Zen I have learned from teachers, that they say, if a vision comes - and even

if it is that of Buddha -

one should kill this vision-Buddha.

This may point to the same as in Bhagavan's atma vichara, where one asks deep within:

to whom does it - the vision - appear - and hold to that and not to the vision.

 

Kind regards

Gabriele

 

 

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nama siva

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:46 AM

Re: [RamanaMaharshi] From Conscious Immortality

During medtation as a beginner i have visualise manyimages. i have recorded

about 200 images.Some are in abstract form.I dont know why such kind of images

are seen duringmeditationnamasivayam--- Alan Jacobs

<alanadamsjacobs (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> > > Beyond Yoga> > Paul Brunton writes:>

> > > The Maharshi is unvarying in his attitude towards> psychic visions. Even>

> when his disciples report that his own picture has> appeared to them,> >

transfigured in brilliant light, be counsels them> to put aside all "form"> >

and to remember that what is thus seen is> perishable; what has an origin> >

must have an end; it is the intuitive perception> of the Self that must be> >

seized.> > > > A devotee claimed he had gone to Mathura and seen> Krishna in a

vision. The> > Maharshi responded:> > > > M: The seer, the seen and the seeing

were all one,> all within yourself.> > Nobody else saw it. It was your own

fancy, and> yet it is also true that> > you really did see it.> > > >>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > > > From the book,

"Conscious Immortality" by Paul> Brunton and Munagala> > Venkataramiah,

published by Sri Ramanasramam,> Tiruvannamalai, South India.> >

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