A postscript on April-May topic of PurnamadaH/Overrun into June Topic

06-13-2004, 05:34 AM

--- Madathil Rajendran Nair
wrote:
>
> I have not studied the Vedas. I would like to do
> that with a
> traditionlist whose frequency I can share without
> difficulty.
> At the moment, I am immersed neckdeep in mundane
> shopping

Namaste,
Now that is bravery: to go shopping. Yeukh!!. My wife
and I avoid it as much as possible. Definitely a Kali
Yuga pastime.
> Did our sages (those who `saw' the Truth in `sound')
> approve the
> writing-down?
> If yes, why?
> Weren't they then knowingly distancing a whole lot
> of humanity from
> the Truth by waylaying it to written, inert words?

I would have liked more discussion on this one
earlier. We did not touch upon the beauty of
Calligraphy for example or other art forms for
presenting Rtam/Satyam. However, my last posting in
the first section of this study...to be posted
tomorrow...includes Yaska's statement:
'When they had to pass on their insight to their
children, their disciples or other interested persons,
they had to expand their insights through explanations
and instructions, upadeSha, and thereby created the
spiritual tradition known as sampradAya. YAska uses
the word sampradu.
‘They (seers) by oral instruction handed down the
hymns to later generations who were destitute of
direct intuitive insight. The later generations,
declining in (power of) oral communication, compiled
this work, the Veda, and the auxiliary Vedic
treatises, in order to comprehend their meaning.’
Nirukta I.20

If we are to accept that at one level, the process of
the Mahayuga is one of decline....emanation from the
inner to the outer maybe......then it is necessary for
wisdom to be held in the most appropriate form for the
age.
Cn u imgin a txt mssge smhta?

That seems even worse than the thought of shopping.

May you soon find your traditional teacher of the
Vedas and may your advaitin wisdom long grace this
site.
Happy holidays and thank you for the blessings,

Ken Knight

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06-13-2004, 06:15 AM

Dear Ken-Ji:

Here is something to think about from the naasadiiya suuktaa, where
the R^iShi essentially in principally admits that he is not capable
of understanding what is that thing or the one who is behind all this?

iyaM visR^iShTiryata aavabhuuva yadi vaa dadhe yadi vaa na |
yo asyaaddhyaxaH paramevyoman tsyo aNgaveda yadi vaa va veda || 129.7
||

Liberal meaning as I understand it (Not the WEB)

Here the mantra draShTa R^iShi says - From whom this universe
originated, sustained by or/and in which it dissolves, does the
parameshvara the (addhyaxa -chairman of Universe) really understands
or not, is beyond (my) comprehension !!?

That is why upanishada used the "methodology of negation" (neti-neti)
for trying to find the truth.

With best wishes and regards to all in their personal quest for
understanding "maayaa in R^igveda".

In may view it is like trying to arrive at the conclusion based on
the limited understanding of reflection of the image and then trying
to kiss it. But every KISS begins with a "Key". (One may use this as
a transliteration for the English alphabet (K) or understand the
English word that unlocks the universal understanding.)

pipilikaa cuMbati cNndrabiMbaa. Meaning - An ant kissing the
reflection of Moon.

Regards,

Dr. Yadu

--- In advaitin@ya
hoogroups.com, ken knight wrote:
>
> --- Madathil Rajendran Nair
> wrote:
> >
> > I have not studied the Vedas. I would like to do
> > that with a
> > traditionlist whose frequency I can share without
> > difficulty.
> > At the moment, I am immersed neckdeep in mundane
> > shopping
>
> Namaste,
> Now that is bravery: to go shopping. Yeukh!!. My wife
> and I avoid it as much as possible. Definitely a Kali
> Yuga pastime.
> > Did our sages (those who `saw' the Truth in `sound')
> > approve the
> > writing-down?
> > If yes, why?
> > Weren't they then knowingly distancing a whole lot
> > of humanity from
> > the Truth by waylaying it to written, inert words?
>
> I would have liked more discussion on this one
> earlier. We did not touch upon the beauty of
> Calligraphy for example or other art forms for
> presenting Rtam/Satyam. However, my last posting in
> the first section of this study...to be posted
> tomorrow...includes Yaska's statement:
> 'When they had to pass on their insight to their
> children, their disciples or other interested persons,
> they had to expand their insights through explanations
> and instructions, upadeSha, and thereby created the
> spiritual tradition known as sampradAya. YAska uses
> the word sampradu.
> `They (seers) by oral instruction handed down the
> hymns to later generations who were destitute of
> direct intuitive insight. The later generations,
> declining in (power of) oral communication, compiled
> this work, the Veda, and the auxiliary Vedic
> treatises, in order to comprehend their meaning.'
> Nirukta I.20
>
> If we are to accept that at one level, the process of
> the Mahayuga is one of decline....emanation from the
> inner to the outer maybe......then it is necessary for
> wisdom to be held in the most appropriate form for the
> age.
> Cn u imgin a txt mssge smhta?
>
> That seems even worse than the thought of shopping.
>
>
> May you soon find your traditional teacher of the
> Vedas and may your advaitin wisdom long grace this
> site.
> Happy holidays and thank you for the blessings,
>
>
> Ken Knight
>
>
> =====
> `From this Supreme Self are all these, indeed, breathed forth.'
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger.
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06-13-2004, 06:39 AM

Dr Yaduji!
our beloved poet William Blake says ...

''Everything possible to be believ'd is an image of truth.'' --

dr. yaduji writes...

pipilikaa cuMbati cNndrabiMbaa. Meaning - An ant kissing the
reflection of Moon.