Eligibility for Raganuga Bhakti

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The MOST important thing really that one receives from the Guru at the time of Diksha is TRUE GURU-PARAMPARA!

 

This is another misconception that some people use to argue, employing the reasoning that Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati has createad a new parampara and therefore he is the head of his own guru-pranali.

But actually pancaratrika-papramapra (diksa-parampara) is included within the bhagavata-paramapara instructed by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada has simply amalgamated both pancaratrika (agamic, or tantric) tradition and siksa (bhagavata, puranic, or smrti) tradition in one single parampara.

 

His glory was to protect neophytes do make any distinction between diksa and siksa gurus, as all sastra advise.

 

When one is considering only the pañcaratrika-paramapara and its criteria of diksa, bhagavata-parampara is clearly superior to pañcaratrika-parampara, because it is founded on the degree of proficiency in bhajana. The charm and superiority of bhagavata-parampara is that pañcaratrika-parampara is included within it.

 

First real diksa and thereafter siksa. That is the gradation in bhagavata-parampara. There is no possibility of siksa alone, as there is no proper dvija-jñana without diksa. If there is no seed, how to have a creeper?

 

The main aspect of the superiority of the bhagavata-parampara as introduced by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada is that in this system there is no obstruction regard to time. From the viewpoint of suddha-bhakti, both the doctrine of pañcaratrika and of bhagavata expound synonym opinions with the same objective, as in Caitanya-caritamrta is stated: pañcaratre bhagavate ei lasana kaya (Madhya 19.169) - If one obstructs pañcaratrika-system, no Deity worship, no proper sadacara, and so forth will be performed.

 

In diksa process, not only harinama and mantras are given, but also sadacara, rules to offer bhoga, worship of Deities and so on. Would one be able to follow bhakti-marga without these aspects?

 

Srila Bhaktiprajñana Kesava Goswami, as a guru nistha and naisthika-brahmacari, was the shadow of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada, and has clarified how the pañcaratrika-guru-parampara is included within the bhavagavata-parampara through the medium of a diagram, clearly demonstrating that Sarasvata Paribhar is included within Nityanada/Jahnava's Paribhar.

 

In this diagram it is also very clear that Srila Bipin Bihari Goswami is included in the bhagavata-parampara, and never he was excluded from it as some people may argue.

 

Sikasa and diksa-guru-varga are are completely amalgamated by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada and we cannot dissociate any of its members without incurring in a very serious guru-aparadha against the whole guru-varga. One may have a very deep insight of our guru-varga reading a book named "The True Conception of Guru Tattva," by Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja

 

Out of mercy to all jivas, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura has therefore amalgamated both systems; Pañcaratrika and Puranic in his Bhagavata-parampara, observing that sabda-brahma comes by the pañcaratrika system as it is prescribed in Kali-yuga and siksa is coming by smrti tradition.

 

dasa dasanudasa

Satyaraja dasa

 

 

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Satya quotes Srila Kuñja Bihari dasa Babaji Maharaja from Radha-kunda..

He is the Guru of Ananta Dasa Babaji of Radha Kunda.

 

Sorry they do not accept Bhaktisiddhantas speculations on siddha-pranali or his made-up Brahma-Gaudiya line as being authentic. Nor do they accept this false introduction of Sannyass in Gaudiya Vaishnavism which Sri Chaitanya clearly forbade in the Kali-Yug!

 

Yes, we known it very well. They do not accept so many things... But they do accept money! And it is better you re-read the post, where he is clearly stating that this siddha-pranali and ekadasa-bhavas are only a fake!!!

 

dasa dasanudasa

Satyaraja dasa

 

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>> What A disgrace to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu these Kali Yuga VAISHNAVA Missionaries of Mass Conversions and Brainwashing!

 

It is not everyone who may be so fortunate like you and suddenly be transformed into a gopi by Krpalu flute's special yogamaya. Aren't you hearing his flute anymore? Rasa-lila time gopika, worry up! Don't you delay anymore! Are you being brainwashed?!

 

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And it is better you re-read the post, where he is clearly stating that this siddha-pranali and ekadasa-bhavas are only a fake!!!

 

 

He does NOT say that and certainly does NOT mean what you say! Bhaktivinode practiced siddha-pranali and ekadasa bhava.....you are getting tipsy satya..waz up too much sweetrice mmmm?

 

 

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[amanpeter 0]

PLEASE stop insulting each other's lineage and/or person, prabhus! What good can possibly come out of it? For Her sake, if no other...