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I have a doubt. What is sole? Where it lies? Can we feel the sole? What makes the sole pleasure?

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Jai Sree Ram!

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I acknowledge for my spelling mistake.

I want to know about soul?

Where it lies?

Can we feel the soul?

What makes the soul pleasure?

 

Do meditation has any impact on soul?

 

Thanks in advance.

Jai Sri Ram!

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I would like to say you verses (Dohaa) of Kabirdasji :

Kabirdasji said :

 

Jaise phoolon mein khushbu hai, chakmaki mein aag.

Tere sain tujh mein hai, tu jaag sake to jaag.

 

Just like the fragrance in flower, fire in stone (also fire in wood and living beings), we can realize the fire while it burns and in body temperature, but we can not see it. Like these, your soul (atman) within you. Just you wake up. Yes we can feel soul, if we can eradicate our physical and intellectual senses.

 

Sat-sang, in touch of gyaanis and real saints or mystic people. We need foods for our physical body also we require sat-sang, spiritual preaching to hear and try for spiritual connection with the vast Cosmic power make the soul pleasure.

 

Yes ! Meditation makes you the follower of super natural power. Spiritual enzyme in your body will be activated and you will be more and more interested to it.

 

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Iam surprised that how can somebody define a size to a soul, like the other post said it can just be felt.

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Hare Krishna!

 

AGTSP!

 

No, everything is perfect, personal and scientific in Vedic Scriptures. Nothing is based on feelings and sentiments. Everything written in Vedic Science is SELF-REALIZED & direct words from Krishna Himself as HE has said that HE is the 3 Vedas. The fourth is a psuedoVeda.

 

So, in that sense, the soul, mentioned by Srila Prabhupada is 1/10,000 times the tip of the hair

 

Haribol!

 

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No, everything is perfect, personal and scientific in Vedic Scriptures. Nothing is based on feelings and sentiments. Everything written in Vedic Science is SELF-REALIZED & direct words from Krishna Himself as HE has said that HE is the 3 Vedas. The fourth is a psuedoVeda.

 

So, in that sense, the soul, mentioned by Srila Prabhupada is 1/10,000 times the tip of the hair

 

 

Anand is correct. It is not the conditioned living entity that defines the Lord or the soul when the information is given by an authority, in this case the Vedas. Srila Prabhupada taught from the Vedas, there was no mental speculation or theory involved. This knowledge is perfect because it comes from Sri Krsna Himself.

 

So in answer to the questions about the soul,(and I am sorry that I am not more qualified to answer) I would accept the answers coming from the self relized teacher/Acarya, in this case Srila Prabhupada.

 

So I was trying at least to answer where the soul lies/lays, or resides, by telling you it is inside your heart, and is very tiny.

 

The Bhagavad Gita explains beautifully about the soul, which is qualitatively the same as Krsna, but quantitatively different. Our soul is like a spark from a fire. The spark has all the qualities of fire, but it is not the fire, in that it is just a minute portion.

 

I ask forgiveness if I have done a hack job on Prabhupada's teachings... I am still learning /images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

You can check out this link, which is Krsna's explanation of the soul: Bhagavad Gita, As It Is Chapter Two, Contents of Gita Summarized

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U r telling that Soul is a tiny part of Heart. Can we visualize it using micoscope? I'm not critisizing. But I want to know more.

 

The following link has a book written by Swami Prabhupada

http://www.hare-krishna.org/books/bnd.zip

 

It says,

<font color="orange"> ". . . The soul is different from the body, and as long as the soul is there, the body is animate. But there is no possibility of making the body animate in the absence of the soul . . ." </font color>

 

<font color="orange"> ". . . The information on how to attain the soul's desire is given in Bhagavad-gita . . ." </font color>

 

<font color="orange">". . . Actual pleasure is of the soul, not the body . . ." </font color>

If it so, how can the soul exist in the body i.e., in the Heart?

 

The Bhagavad-Gita says,<font color="blue">

" na jayate mriyate va kadacin

nayam bhutva bhavita va na bhuyah

ajo nityah sasvato 'yam purano

na hanyate hanyamane sarire"

</font color>

The above lines says, <font color="orange">"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, once having been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying, and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." </font color>(Bhagavad-gita. 2.20)

If it so, how can the soul exists in the non-eternal body?

 

<font color="blue">" mam upetya punar janma

duhkhalayam asasvatam

napnuvanti mahatmanah

samsiddhim paramam gatah"

</font color>

The meaning of it is <font color="orange">". . . After attaining Me, the great souls, who are yogis in devotion, never return to this temporary world, which is full of miseries, because they have attained the highest perfection . . ." </font color>(Bhagavad-gita. 8.15)

 

From these lines we could somewhat deduce that Soul will not be in the Human Body. But it is something apart from it, & related to it.

 

Jai Krsna!

bye frm Chittan

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wow, chittan, thanks for replying. This is reallt interesting to me too, but I am afraid I am not expert yet in scripture to really respond comfortably.

 

However, although we have very powerfull microscopes, I doubt the soul would be seen,as it is above ether, it is above subtle living entities, which we can't see either. so, hmmm.

 

There is also paramatma in the heart, the four armed vishnu. I read that He is 8 inches. when you say the soul is aprt and related to the body, perhaps it is via paratmatma? I am not certain. Time to hit the books and see. I'll post what I can find....

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yes. it is eternal.

 

<< From these lines we could somewhat deduce that Soul will not be in the Human Body. But it is something apart from it, & related to it. >>

 

when a soul is within a body, the body is alove, else it is dead.

 

a soul can exist without a body.

a body dies without a soul.

 

no, you cannot see a soul under any kind of microscope.

you can feel its existance when you see a live body,

or its absence in a body when you see a dead body.

it is not any material you an hold in any way.

 

krishna says a lot about the soul in gita.

 

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science has found recently that each atom has what they call a 'god particle', or some unexplained element they dont know the function of. prabhupada deduced that each atom of the body has minute souls with one small part being in tiny amount, the supersoul itself which the atoms are bound to. im not sure if that's the correct description of what he said, but that's the gist. i dont have any articles on this 'god particle', perhaps someone has read of this also..?

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"soul in the heart" is an image, allegory... because soul is not even in the material world but on the spiritual plane

 

we say that soul is very little because in this world soul is unmanifested, and we say that is in the heart because soul gives the life to all the body and mind

 

by this principle vedic tradition says that also mind is in the heart, not in the brain

 

so if they take away the heart, the soul is not affected

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I can tell you one thing about soul, you soul is like the driver or the operrator of your body. You body is a like a machine (car, computer, etc.) and your soul operates it, You soul makes you eat just like you take your car for oil change or gas station. Just like you store information on a Computer hard drive your soul stores your memory in the brain. Your soul uses your eyes to see the world, uses your hand to do things etc. Once you body is useless your soul will abandon it and based on your dharma/karma your either will be given a new body or moved to a different plane.

 

Some attributes specific to a soul is, for example in my family there is 6 kids, we all grew up together, studied together socialised together. But we all have different tastes. Example i like dogs, There is always one in our home.

But my sibling dont, My sister has parrot. I like dhosai, my dad loves rice. I think these are characteristics of the soul.

 

Thus you cannot see the soul, but can see its action, presence etc. Physical property of a soul is it could be a energy.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

 

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“The soul resides in our heart and is very, very tiny. Srila Prabhupada said it is 1/10,000 of a tip of a hair in size, (I believe, if I missquoted, it is approximate to that)”

 

Theoretically, it means that a living entity smaller then 1/10000 of a tip of hair size, would actually have a soul bigger then it’s body.

 

This also means soul actually occupies space. What happens when there is no space?

 

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The size of the soul (1/10000 the tip of a hair) is beyond the realm of perception with the mundane senses. Therefore if any material body were made smaller than that, which in my experience is not possible as were talking about a size smaller than the atom (which is but a building block of an organic molecule).

 

It also remains to be experienced by anyone in modern history a time in which space does not exist. Furthermore, even if such a time came for our universe we would not be able to discount the unlimited possibilites of where the soul might travel should such an event happen.

 

But more importantly the best source of knowledge is the Vedas, which are perfect and complete. The Vedas explains that prakrti, or material nature is eternal, but goes through periods of being manifest and unmanifest. They also explain that the soul is eternal and not subject to the transformations we see here in the material world. Finally, they explain that spirit and matter never mix, but the individual jiva soul (living entity) may be covered over for some period of time.

 

The conclusion is that we cannot access this knowledge through mental speculation and sense perception so we need to hear from an authorized source. That is the Vedas.

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“They also explain that the soul is eternal and not subject to the transformations we see here in the material world. Finally, they explain that spirit and matter never mix, but the individual jiva soul (living entity) may be covered over for some period of time.

 

The conclusion is that we cannot access this knowledge through mental speculation and sense perception so we need to hear from an authorized source. That is the Vedas.”

 

That is precisely why I questioned the Soul occupying physical space, because if it did, then I would think the Soul would be subject to time space equation.

 

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