atanu 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2004 Raghuramji and othewrs listen to what Guest HK devotee has to say: "Rig veda is not important in age of Kali...HARIBOL!!!" Your HK friend would now like to dump Rig Veda. This is atrocious. Atanu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 20, 2004 you seem overly excited.. take a rest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atanu 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 I am at rest every moment. You may not understand now. But you under disguise are polluting Sanatana Dharma. Vedas are the fountain head, given to us by the Lord Himself. What is your motive in ignoring the Vedas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 21, 2004 who is ignoring vedas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadhav 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 if htey onlylive by gita, i would not worry what they say. when gita is the summary of the vedas, then the vedas cannot be ignored by a vedic person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2004 "Rig veda is not important in age of Kali...HARIBOL!!!" What is the above statement then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadhav 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 << "Rig veda is not important in age of Kali...HARIBOL!!!" What is the above statement then? >> yes, worse than ignorance. now here is a pattern with HK's: chaitanya to prabhupada were all hindus and even bornin idnia. theyworshipepd krishna like most hindus do. their scriptures are same as that of teh hindus, and still they saw 'we hk's are not hindus'. this is like hk's saying their mohters that hk's are not their children. now here gita is the summary of the vedas. so gita includes teh essence of Rg veda, and here an hk says Rg veda is not improtant in kali yoga. this is like violently disconnecting with the mother - the original source. i can think of only two-three root reasons why they do it: - they are not born on the vedic land, and they have no attachment with it. - they come with the sanskaras of xians whose mentailty is of claiming monopoly in everything. - prabhupada gave them the heavy dose of KC by saying them that it is not hinduism. now they just repeat what he said like parrots without thinking rationally. insulting/hurting the mother. that is what i see. still most hindus rightly consider them hindus. this is like: hindu: "I love you." HK: "yes, but i cannot love you, you are a fool. i am smart." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2004 "Rig veda is not important in age of Kali...HARIBOL!!!" What is the above statement then? yes, worse than ignorance." ----------------------------- probably what they mean is that in this age (the kali yuga) where most people are not so scholarly inclined, it is not necesary to study the rig veda, which may be complicated, but better just to study the essence of it in the Bhagavat Gita. You your self have said before that in this day and age it is not necessary to study Manu Samhita or the law book, give in past ages, for mankind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2004 << "Rig veda is not important in age of Kali...HARIBOL!!!" What is the above statement then? >> yes, worse than ignorance. •••everything is easily understandable even if the statement is a little too harsh chaitanya to prabhupada were all hindus and even bornin idnia •••to be hindu means to identificate ourselves in a system or denomination that hosts many behaviours and beliefs against krsna and krsna consciousness. So it is understandable that a serious spiritual practitioneer does not want to be identified with it. Said this Prabhupada is a pure devotee and chaitanya mahaprabhu is god... so they do not belong to any denomination, race or nation their scriptures are same as that of teh hindus, and still they saw 'we hk's are not hindus'. this is like hk's saying their mohters that hk's are not their children. ••••many do not think that hinduism is the mother of everything.. many believe thet sanatana dharma is the mother of everything and that hinduism is not to be identified in sanatana dharma but in a derivation of it... another son, not the mother now here gita is the summary of the vedas. so gita includes teh essence of Rg veda, and here an hk says Rg veda is not improtant in kali yoga. this is like violently disconnecting with the mother - the original source. •••after having said that the statement was too extreme i have also to say that you have now given the explanation of why the gita contains also rigveda and that's the most important scripture to be read - they are not born on the vedic land, and they have no attachment with it. ••••this is an ignorant statement that you repeat obstinately... gaudya vaishnava sampradaya is in the west only from the 1965 and in india from 1496... and the idea about hinduism has been ever the same. - they come with the sanskaras of xians whose mentailty is of claiming monopoly in everything ••••it is a lie because western vaishnavas have learn these thruths from the gaudya vaishnava sampradaya who's in india from 15th century prabhupada gave them the heavy dose of KC by saying them that it is not hinduism. now they just repeat what he said like parrots without thinking rationally. •••you know perfectly that i can sustain my idea with plenty of demonstrations.. it is more easy that discussing with me on this subject, you end appearing like an irrational parrot this is like: hindu: "I love you." HK: "yes, but i cannot love you, you are a fool. i am smart. ••••wrong..... it is like HK: i love you and i must be smarter or fooler... but i and krsna consciousness do not belong to india and hinduism, and you also are not a hindu, christian, muslim, indian, american, english and so on.. you are simply an eternal spiritual soul, the nationalists designations belong to the body, not to the real self it is your big problem if you think that love and friendship can be done only between people who agrees on everything... and that who do not agrees has to be hated do not project your problems on others Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadhav 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2004 yes, let us hope so. but why not the person who wrote << Rig veda is not important in age of Kali...HARIBOL!!! >> tell us what he/she means? get teh story directly from "the horses mouth." although the sentence is not that difficult to understand. [my guess is that you are a top HK here. you have a user name already, and the system perhasp does not allow you to have another user name. hence your refusal to pick a user name.] so i appreciate you effort to do some correction on behalf of another HK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2004 i wrote that original rg veda thing... firstly, sorry if i offended anybody... secondly, rig veda is important, i totally wrote the foolish thing.... in this age of kali, rig veda is not as important as the puranas, since Vyasa compiled the puranas for the benefit of the decreased intelligence of those in age of Kali... Vyasa said Puranas contain all that is in the original four Vedas anyway... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atanu 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2004 "i wrote that original rg veda thing... firstly, sorry if i offended anybody... secondly, rig veda is important, i totally wrote the foolish thing...." Purity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadhav 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2004 very nice of you to clear it up. no problem now. jai. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites