Guest guest Report post Posted December 7, 2009 I was just trying to find something my kid would eat. Karen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 7, 2009 I have changed my views on this quite radically over the years. I now believe that if something helps someone to become vegetarian or vegan if they really want to, then it is a good thing. I became vegetarian in 1967 because I didn't like meat and I didn't like the thought of eating animals. I could see no point in eating foods made to look like meat. I recently became vegan because it seemed like the right thing to do. I still occasionally miss cheese and yoghurt and have found it easier to avoid substitutes altogether rather than be disappointed. However if someone made a vegan parmesan cheese that actually tasted like the real thing, I would buy it in a heartbeat. Christie 2009/12/7 Annie Littlewolf <mkdebord > > > Hi! I TRULY don't mean this as a flame, but as a discussion starter. If I > go veggie for humane, moral reasons, then should I eat veggie foods made to > look like the foods I'm avoiding? Somehow it seems wrong to me. If however, > you are doing it for health reasons, then I can see doing it. What do you > all think? > Annie, who is vegan for humane, moral reasons > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Last year I got into a heated argument when I was on a vegan group on this very same topic, so I'm venturing with trepidation here. If you feel that your conscience doesn't allow you to eat meat substitutes, then by all means don't do it. I eat meat substitutes. I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian, so I do dairy and eggs. I worked with a man that wouldn't eat mushrooms because they derived their nutrients from other plants. Most vegans don't eat honey. To each his own. I think what annoys me most with vegans and vegetarians is how hardline they can be about it. I don't eat meat because of religious/ethical reasons, but I don't force my views on others. I personally don't care if others eat meat. I'm not going to tell them how wrong it is to eat it because that's my conviction. I say, do what you feel. I understand where you're coming from, but you have the freedom to eat what you want. Some people on the group I was on before just slammed me because I asked for a recipe for veggie bacon. I wanted it because I wanted to cook something healthier for my family, but these radical nuts accused me of not being " Christian " because I was going against my convictions of eating meat. I am still pretty peeved about that, so I will leave that rant alone On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Annie Littlewolf <mkdebordwrote: > > > Hi! I TRULY don't mean this as a flame, but as a discussion starter. If I > go veggie for humane, moral reasons, then should I eat veggie foods made to > look like the foods I'm avoiding? Somehow it seems wrong to me. If however, > you are doing it for health reasons, then I can see doing it. What do you > all think? > Annie, who is vegan for humane, moral reasons > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Hi, I'm ovo lacto veg. I have no problem eating foods that look like what I'm avoiding. I'm not eating meat. I'm not hurting any animals because I eat tofu or seitan that is shaped to look like a frankfurter. If you are uncomfortable doing that, don't do it. Each to his or her own mental or emotional needs or decisions. I just try to follow: " An it harm none do what ye will. " Harm may have many definitions however and my " none " just happens to include animals, fish, the " fauna " part of the world assuming I have the definition of that right. Gary On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Annie Littlewolf <mkdebordwrote: > > > Hi! I TRULY don't mean this as a flame, but as a discussion starter. If I > go veggie for humane, moral reasons, then should I eat veggie foods made to > look like the foods I'm avoiding? Somehow it seems wrong to me. If however, > you are doing it for health reasons, then I can see doing it. What do you > all think? > Annie, who is vegan for humane, moral reasons > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 8, 2009 just for the record...., things shaped like a nugget, patty, loaf, strip,stick, etc are simply refering to the shape...some meats just happen to be made into these shapes...and if you eat veggie foods in these shapes it simply means you are eating veggie foods fashioned into a specific shape..just mho , Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm ovo lacto veg. I have no problem eating foods that look like > what I'm avoiding. I'm not eating meat. I'm not hurting any > animals because I eat tofu or seitan that is shaped to look like > a frankfurter. If you are uncomfortable doing that, don't do it. > Each to his or her own mental or emotional needs or decisions. > I just try to follow: " An it harm none do what ye will. " > Harm may have many definitions however and my " none " > just happens to include animals, fish, the " fauna " part > of the world assuming I have the definition of that right. > > > Gary > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Annie Littlewolf <mkdebordwrote: > > > > > > > Hi! I TRULY don't mean this as a flame, but as a discussion starter. If I > > go veggie for humane, moral reasons, then should I eat veggie foods made to > > look like the foods I'm avoiding? Somehow it seems wrong to me. If however, > > you are doing it for health reasons, then I can see doing it. What do you > > all think? > > Annie, who is vegan for humane, moral reasons > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 8, 2009 If it weren't for the replacements my husband would not have started his journey to becoming a vegetarian. Now he only eats meat on business meetings or travel where vegetarian isn't convenient. This is a far cry from the man that told me " NO WAY " . I don't mind the " chicken breast " replacements but I do have to say that the Tofurky whole Turkey freaked me out a bit when I saw it at the store. That was too much for me personally. Linda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 8, 2009 I agree. Besides which a long cylindrical piece of tofu fits a lot better on a pre-made hot dog bun than something shaped like, um, an octagon or a giant sphere. ;<) Gary ________________________________ DanielleB <mylameoww Tue, December 8, 2009 9:15:29 AM [veg_grp] Re: Tofu McNuggets just for the record...., things shaped like a nugget, patty, loaf, strip,stick, etc are simply refering to the shape...some meats just happen to be made into these shapes...and if you eat veggie foods in these shapes it simply means you are eating veggie foods fashioned into a specific shape..just mho , Gary Mattingly <gsmattingly wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm ovo lacto veg. I have no problem eating foods that look like > what I'm avoiding. I'm not eating meat. I'm not hurting any > animals because I eat tofu or seitan that is shaped to look like > a frankfurter. If you are uncomfortable doing that, don't do it. > Each to his or her own mental or emotional needs or decisions. > I just try to follow: " An it harm none do what ye will. " > Harm may have many definitions however and my " none " > just happens to include animals, fish, the " fauna " part > of the world assuming I have the definition of that right. > > > Gary > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
