ACAOM and Complaint about FPD

[Guest guest]

We have some really good practice management material. There is a practice

management class, and it's really good, but the marketing is addressed in

other classes as well. I think things may have improved in this regard

since you were in school. Still, I think people can take business courses

if they want. There are universities everywhere.

 

 

 

 

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" mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1

<Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:24 AM

RE: ACAOM and Complaint about FPD

 

 

>

> Understood but how hard is it really to call it practice mgmt and put some

> meat into the courses? During my entire chiro education we had business

> classes each term that dealt with many issues such as writing a business

> plan, marketing, scripts, investments, etc. I thought this was weak as

> well but much more involved then what I saw in TCM school. BTW, from what

> I have seen, the chiro's have a much better understanding of the

> importance of finance. I have several TCM graduate friends that no longer

> practice and some never really did. People, we can and must do better.

>

> Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

>

>

>

> Chinese Traditional Medicine

> don83407

> Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:01:16 -0500

> RE: ACAOM and Complaint about FPD

[Guest guest]

Yeah I don't know. I've had family businesses and whatnot, but none of them

were TCM related. One thing in my area that is a consideration is

saturation level. Every 4 months another crew of graduates goes out into

the area to start up clinics and whatnot.

 

 

 

 

 

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" " <johnkokko

<Chinese Medicine >

Tuesday, April 27, 2010 9:53 PM

Re: ACAOM and Complaint about FPD

 

 

> Mercurius,

> you're lucky if you're getting good marketing classes in school...

> but you're still in school, right?

> so... it might be a bit difficult to know for sure if the material that

> you're learning in the

> practice mgmt classes at your school are very practical for a TCM

> practice.

> Maybe you have special circumstances and experience...

> helping out a friend's acupuncture clinic, apprenticing etc. so you can

> really gauge that the material you're learning is sufficient to get a

> practice off the ground.

>

> In school, everyone thought that was enough, but when you look at the

> surveys of alumnis,

> it's always the same... we need better and more business classes while in

> school.

> It's true that most people don't practice after they get their license,

> because of a lack of business acumen, not because a lack of TCM knowledge.

>

> K

>

>

>

> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Mercurius Trismegistus <

> magisterium_magnum wrote:

[Guest guest]

Agreed. Some schools may have improved things. Marketing courses should be

specific for our profession. Normal universities do not have this focus. They

tend to be too general.

 

Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine

magisterium_magnum

Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:14:59 -0700

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We have some really good practice management material. There is a

practice

 

management class, and it's really good, but the marketing is addressed in

 

other classes as well. I think things may have improved in this regard

 

since you were in school. Still, I think people can take business courses

 

if they want. There are universities everywhere.

 

 

 

-

 

" mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1

 

<Chinese Traditional Medicine >

 

Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:24 AM

 

RE: ACAOM and Complaint about FPD

 

 

 

>

 

> Understood but how hard is it really to call it practice mgmt and put some

 

> meat into the courses? During my entire chiro education we had business

 

> classes each term that dealt with many issues such as writing a business

 

> plan, marketing, scripts, investments, etc. I thought this was weak as

 

> well but much more involved then what I saw in TCM school. BTW, from what

 

> I have seen, the chiro's have a much better understanding of the

 

> importance of finance. I have several TCM graduate friends that no longer

 

> practice and some never really did. People, we can and must do better.

 

>

 

> Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Chinese Traditional Medicine

 

> don83407

 

> Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:01:16 -0500

 

> RE: ACAOM and Complaint about FPD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[erika 0]

Hello,

 

I am replying to this thread rather late and I do not even know if it is still active. As a 3rd year student at NCNM in Portland, I understand my voice is not as powerful as many of yours and perhaps I am even speaking out of turn. As it stands, I will graduate in June 2012.

 

I am one of those students referenced earlier - one of those students who wish to have a FPD for our profession. I have actually considered putting my education on hold for awhile, as the current path to doctorate is more costly than an FPD. I see the development of a FPD as inevitable - it is simply a matter of time. I only wish the leaders of the profession were not so hesitant to lead. The unfortunate truth is that those who are against it are afraid the change will harm them or their ability to practice. Will it challenge them? Perhaps. But harm them? No. We cannot be afraid to change. Health is movement, change. Allowing this change will destroy nothing. It is simply another option for students. The truth is we always make ourselves - a degree is simply a degree. The individual always chooses what to pursue - and we are all unique and want different things, different types of education. A doctorate does not a doctor make. It would be good to establish a doctorate for those of us who wish to pursue the option. Some students may not want it for financial reasons, lack of interest, etc. Such preference does not reflect poorly upon them - only their practice, their clinical results, will be important. Just like those who get a doctorate.

 

I would ask for more trust. Trust in our individual ability to provide for ourselves, and for our patients.

 

So yes, I am a student in favor creating the FPD. I am eagerly following all the schools (such as Tri-State in NY) that have their FPD plans drafted and ready to go. But, that is not why I posted here. I am simply curious about the status of the FPD, and it appears that some of you might have insider knowledge.

 

What is the status? What is the next step?

 

Thank you!

Erika Marie