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hello,

I was so excited to meet you chris that I couldnt

wait to tell Dan when I came home. Its always

nice to meet new people, especially since I could

tell we get along great already. You know, that

connection. I havnt lived here long and its hard

to meet people. It will be nice to know a new,

neat and fun group of people. As you know, I live

in Bailey. We are working on starting the small

herb production/soap factory here in these hills.

 

Lets keep in touch.

kristie

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> Everyone, lets welcome Kristie to the group :)

> Make yourself at home, feel free to scan the archives and introduce

> yourself.

> *smile*

> chris

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Welcome Anna.

Check out the total tonic... it has everything you need...

"Anna Marie Page <debussy1020" <debussy1020 wrote:

 

Hello all,I am so glad I found this list. I have had 3 strokes in the past 14 months and my Doctor says my next one may be a major disability or worse and I am only 40 years old. Well I spend over 100 a month on prescriptions to keep my blood pressure down, I really am tired of spending so much money and time and just feel worse and worse. I have been researching on the internet on how to control my blood pressure with herbs and would like to try some them but am concerned as to where and exactly how to use them. Make a cayenne tincture... For instance a teaspoon of cayenne pepper in a cup of hot water is prescribed for heart attacks, ok so what part of the pepper do you crush (seeds or flesh) and how often would you use it? Garlic and onions are also used to control blood pressure, but here again how much would it take to be useful? the whole pepper seeds and skin on the habeneros... see total tonic... has peppers, onions, garlic, horseradish, apple cider vinegar.... in the files under Dr.IanShillington.. easy to make.

And the biggest question, can I use herbal remedies while continuing with the synthetic medications? what are you taking?Thank you all for listeningAnna Marie Page

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Hello Anna Marie Page,

 

I am very sorry to hear about your plight. So many strokes at such a young age. I do not know where you reside but I would strongly suggest that you find some ground cayenne (habenero, the hottest you can find) and begin taking it. Cayenne is extremely beneficial at bringing back elasticity to the arteries and veins by feeding elements that may be lacking in the cell structure of the veins, arteries, and capillaries. When your veins become clogged with sticky mucus then the blood has a harder time flowing, hence needs higher pressure to push it through. Cayenne regulates the flow of blood from your head to your toes. I would suggest that you begin a regimen of cayenne (not in capsule form though) 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon to begin with 3 times a day at least. Do this for 1 week and then increase to maybe 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon 3 times per day. You want to get yourself where you are taking a minimum of 1 teaspoonful of cayenne powder at least 3 times per day. You can take it in fresh vege juices, spinkled onto your salad, in a cup of hot water, etc, but not in capsule form. You want to get it into your system as fast as possible. Capsules take too long as they must dissolve first. You also might wish to reflect on your diet and see if there is any mucus forming foods that you can eliminate (meats, pastas, junk food, coffee, teas, dairy products, flour products). Go with a mucusless diet and this will assist you quite a bit as well. This will help in removing the mucus from your body. This is where I would suggest that you start. But you might wish to give Doc a call and see if he might have any other advice to add.

 

HTH,

 

Don Quai

 

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Friday, February 14, 2003 9:53 AM

[herbal remedies] new member

Hello all, I am so glad I found this list. I have had 3 strokes in the past 14 months and my Doctor says my next one may be a major disability or worse and I am only 40 years old. Well I spend over 100 a month on prescriptions to keep my blood pressure down, I really am tired of spending so much money and time and just feel worse and worse. I have been researching on the internet on how to control my blood pressure with herbs and would like to try some them but am concerned as to where and exactly how to use them. For instance a teaspoon of cayenne pepper in a cup of hot water is prescribed for heart attacks, ok so what part of the pepper do you crush (seeds or flesh) and how often would you use it? Garlic and onions are also used to control blood pressure, but here again how much would it take to be useful? And the biggest question, can I use herbal remedies while continuing with the synthetic medications?Thank you all for listeningAnna Marie PageFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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And lest I had a slight memory relapse, the seeds and flesh are both used crushed or you can eat em whole if you wish. Crushed is easier. As for onions and garlic, well garlic is far better than onions. You can eat as much as you like. It is not unheard of to hear of people eating 10 - 15 cloves per day. Just don't eat them raw by themselves. And don't cook them. You want them raw but mixed or eaten with other foods. Or best yet, throw a handful of peeled raw garlic cloves in with your diced up veggies (cucumber, parsley, tomato, leek, onion, fresh ginger, fresh horseradish root, bell pepper, cayenne, organic apple cider vinegar, cabbage, broccoli and some distilled water) into the blender and make yourself a nice cold soup that is not only very nutritious but very good for the body besides. Just do your best at obtaining organic produce.

You can take these along with your medication, as these are all food, but I do believe that you may find yourself weaning off from them. Do however, consult with your physician and let him/her know what you are doing. Do not just go cold turkey from the meds. Work with the MD and hopefully the MD will work with you.

 

HTH,

 

Don Quai

 

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Friday, February 14, 2003 9:53 AM

[herbal remedies] new member

Hello all, I am so glad I found this list. I have had 3 strokes in the past 14 months and my Doctor says my next one may be a major disability or worse and I am only 40 years old. Well I spend over 100 a month on prescriptions to keep my blood pressure down, I really am tired of spending so much money and time and just feel worse and worse. I have been researching on the internet on how to control my blood pressure with herbs and would like to try some them but am concerned as to where and exactly how to use them. For instance a teaspoon of cayenne pepper in a cup of hot water is prescribed for heart attacks, ok so what part of the pepper do you crush (seeds or flesh) and how often would you use it? Garlic and onions are also used to control blood pressure, but here again how much would it take to be useful? And the biggest question, can I use herbal remedies while continuing with the synthetic medications?Thank you all for listeningAnna Marie PageFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Dear Anna Marie,

 

There is really no limit to the amount of Cayenne you can take, and it should be the hottest you can find = Habaneros (1st choice) or African Bird Peppers, etc.

 

I suppose there would be a limit somewhere on the garlic, but I don't know how high that would be. I've taken over 30 cloves in a day, and I've heard of an 80 year old woman who once was taking 50 cloves a day with no adverse effects. As is usual with herbs, "more" is usually better, and the worst that can happen on an overdose is you puke your guts out which can also be very helpful. That is the beauty of the herbal approach. Your body will reject (one way or another) that which it doesn't need ;o)

 

You should also do a complete overhaul on your diet to ensure you're getting only "Certified Organic" foods. Stay away from unsprouted grains that have enzyme inhibitors in them. Do lots of juicing. Get yourself on a great exercise program that at least includes "running" or "rebounding".

 

Stop watching the "News" on TV and disconnect from "Negative" people who are bringing you down.

 

Laugh a lot. Love alot. And admire yourself at least 3 times a day.

 

This would be a start :o)

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Anna Marie Page <debussy1020

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Friday, February 14, 2003 1:53 AM

[herbal remedies] new member

Hello all, I am so glad I found this list. I have had 3 strokes in the past 14 months and my Doctor says my next one may be a major disability or worse and I am only 40 years old. Well I spend over 100 a month on prescriptions to keep my blood pressure down, I really am tired of spending so much money and time and just feel worse and worse. I have been researching on the internet on how to control my blood pressure with herbs and would like to try some them but am concerned as to where and exactly how to use them. For instance a teaspoon of cayenne pepper in a cup of hot water is prescribed for heart attacks, ok so what part of the pepper do you crush (seeds or flesh) and how often would you use it? Garlic and onions are also used to control blood pressure, but here again how much would it take to be useful? And the biggest question, can I use herbal remedies while continuing with the synthetic medications?Thank you all for listeningAnna Marie Page

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Whenever anyone comes on list for the purpose of advertising or promoting an MLM, they are "toasted" = Banned from the list.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:15 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] new member

 

 

 

 

 

 

MLM = Toast!

 

What's that?

Angel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Amanda,

 

On our board, in our log it shows where you have joined but you do

not show up in our list of members. I do not have an answer to that

yet.

 

You can write and email to and make a complaint about the

problem or you can wait a bit.

 

You are not the only one who is having this problem right now. There

are several others.

 

seems to somehow have problems with our group on constant basis.

 

I also suggest that you join our new message boards here. They have

been up for about a week now, but already have over 500

articles/messages posted there.

 

Here is the address.

http://alternative-medicine-message-boards.info

 

regards,

 

Frank

 

 

 

, amanda scocozzo

<healthangel74> wrote:

> I recently became a member and am not getting emails, is there

anythng else I have to do?

> thanks

> Amanda

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Glad to have you here. Which hospital do you work at and what type

of nurse are you? Do you see much intergration of CM in the NHS? Is

there a pain clinic at the hospital where you work that uses

acupuncture?

 

Attilio

 

Werner Herzog <wernerherzog2000> wrote:

> Hi there!

>

> Attilio has asked me to introduce myself, so here goes: I am a

nurse and have been working in the NHS in England for about three

years. I am Chinese and studied TCM for one and half years in China.

The reason I joined the group was because I am interested in trying

to combine the best of Chinese and western medicine.

>

> Regards to all

>

> DL

>

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Hi and wellcome DL,

 

 

Did you study 1 and a 1/2 years TCM as part of your nurse course?

 

 

 

Marco

 

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Hi there!

 

Attilio has asked me to introduce myself, so here goes: I am a nurse and have been working in the NHS in England for about three years. I am Chinese and studied TCM for one and half years in China. The reason I joined the group was because I am interested in trying to combine the best of Chinese and western medicine.

 

Regards to all

 

DL

 

 

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Why, with due respects, so many changes?

 

Dr. Holmes KeikobadMB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZwww.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health professionals

 

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Friday, December 26, 2003 7:04 AM

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Hello,I'm a massage therapist, who started out as an agriculture major, then Registered Veterinary Technician, then Medical Microbiologist, who is just starting TOM school in Southern California.-Kay

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Hi Jack (and other new members),

 

Welcome to Chinese Traditional Medicine.

 

The first posts in the message base are the most basic. They were

designed to walk those new to TCM through the basics, but some TCM

students use them for review.

 

Feel free to jump in anywhere with questions or posts about TCM

subjects which are of special interest to you.

 

Victoria

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Hi Kayla,

 

Are you in SF, Oakland, LA, Santa Cruz or San Diego? I love it that you've got Western and Eastern sciences cohabitating in your head and your heart. Nice going.

 

Emmanuel Segmen

 

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Monday, January 19, 2004 5:29 AM

new member

Hi, I'm a former Microbiologist, now a full time Massage Therapy Specialist. I'm just starting at TCM school, in California USA. I'm especially interested in Tui-na and Qi Gong. Because, I prefer the enjoyment and fun atmosphere of massage over the stiff clinical feel of most treatment rooms.Kay

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Welcome, Honora. I read your articles.

John Garbarini

--- Honora <honora wrote:

> Dear Members,

> My name is Honora Lee Wolfe, Dipl.Ac. and I am a

> teacher of practice

> management and business success for acupuncturists.

> My interest in your

> group is to see what types of issues and problems

> are coming up for

> practitioners, what your interests are, and what

> sort of anecdotes about

> your practices are discussed at your user group.

> Thank you,

> Honora Wolfe

> honora

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Hi Honora!

 

You are very famous and well regarded, thank you for taking an interest!

 

At 06:49 PM 3/2/2004, you wrote:

>Dear Members,

>My name is Honora Lee Wolfe, Dipl.Ac. and I am a teacher of practice

>management and business success for acupuncturists. My interest in your

>group is to see what types of issues and problems are coming up for

>practitioners, what your interests are, and what sort of anecdotes about

>your practices are discussed at your user group.

>Thank you,

>Honora Wolfe

>honora

 

Regards,

 

Pete

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Welcome Michael, I'm kinda new too, but your right it is a great list with

lots of knowledgeable people. I've learned a lot too.

Rabiah

 

 

 

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You should not.

 

Zeb

 

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Friday, May 07, 2004 11:06 AM

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Hey everyone, just joined today - husband started taking "Happy Camper" about 3 weeks ago per the advice of our marriage counselor (not sure of the manufacturer)... after 13 yrs of marriage his personality has done a COMPLETE turn-around - i'm almost amazed that herbal supplements can have THIS big of an impact - my big question is do you eventually build up your tolerance level and require more?Thanks,CindyFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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In a message dated 5/7/2004 8:31:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cindyspiderucla writes:

Hey everyone, just joined today - husband started taking "Happy Camper" about 3 weeks ago per the advice of our marriage counselor (not sure of the manufacturer)... after 13 yrs of marriage his personality has done a COMPLETE turn-around - i'm almost amazed that herbal supplements can have THIS big of an impact - my big question is do you eventually build up your tolerance level and require more?Thanks,Cindy

Hi Cindy and Welcome!

 

Diet and beverage intake is important with all disease and disorders but I have noticed when you correct this and do some cleansing the improvement is so remarkable! Listen to docs tape and this will help you gain understanding and get in the files to learn about cleansing!

 

God Bless,

Jamie in Az

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Hi BOB!

 

Any chance of getting this 1000 plants database posted to the list or on a

website somewhere? I think this would be *very* interesting.

 

<snip>

 

they have classified over 1,000 plants that can be

>used directly in place of western drug based medicine.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

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Hello Debbie - welcome to the group! I am a fellow gardener in Arcade, NY.

 

Donna

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Hi Donna,

It's nice to meet you:)

I have some plants in containers too, growing on the porch. The

tomatoes in the containers seem to be doing better than those

in the garden. I should have tomatoes any day~ Debbie

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Hi and Welcome!

 

Check out Dr Christopher's Site at: http://www.herbsfirst.com/snh.html

 

As far as I know, this is one of the most reputable. My hubby is

taking one of the courses now.

 

There is also great reading here! Request Doc's free tape and dig

into the Files section.

 

Also if you are interested there is some really great info for

gardeners (organic) on Seeds of Change Web site.

 

Have fun and welcome again!

 

Sylvia

 

herbal remedies , " Branoiche "

<branoiche2003> wrote:

> hello, I just joined this group. I hav been interested in herbs for

a

> long time and have finally been able to start a small herb garden.

i

> was wondering if any one knows of a reputable on-line school where

i

> can get a master herbalst certificate.

> branoiche

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How can one dig into the files section?--- Sylvia

<h10feet wrote:

> Hi and Welcome!

>

> Check out Dr Christopher's Site at:

> http://www.herbsfirst.com/snh.html

>

> As far as I know, this is one of the most reputable.

> My hubby is

> taking one of the courses now.

>

> There is also great reading here! Request Doc's

> free tape and dig

> into the Files section.

>

> Also if you are interested there is some really

> great info for

> gardeners (organic) on Seeds of Change Web site.

>

> Have fun and welcome again!

>

> Sylvia

>

> herbal remedies , " Branoiche "

> <branoiche2003> wrote:

> > hello, I just joined this group. I hav been

> interested in herbs for

> a

> > long time and have finally been able to start a

> small herb garden.

> i

> > was wondering if any one knows of a reputable

> on-line school where

> i

> > can get a master herbalst certificate.

> > branoiche

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mail - You care about security. So do we.

 

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From the main web page for the group at: http://health.herbal remedies/ just click on the "Files" link on the left side of the page. Browse, and enjoy! :)

Kelli

 

 

Karen Fogel [patsy_2000_26851] Friday, June 18, 2004 3:52 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: New memberHow can one dig into the files section?--- Sylvia

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Hi Glen

 

I have an L.Ac. and B.S. in Biology and am also very interested in

psychoneuroimmunology--I guess a kind of offshoot of your

biochemistry/neurochemistry (although I have no real technical

knowledge beyond the B.S. " armchair " psychoneuroimmunologist). I was

wondering if you had done any research on the effects of meditation

and self-regulation beyond the external application of qi by

practitioners, machines etc. Have you read " Destructive Emotions:

Conversations With the Dalai Lama " by Daniel Goleman? Apparently,

the Mind and Life Institute out of Boulder, Co., gets scientists

from different fields together with the Dalai Lama each year to help

guide their research and ask new questions. The book was very

interesting and I thought you might like to look into, had read it

or that perhaps you would have some educated comments about these

things. I, myself, practice Tonglin meditation and find it quite

helpful as well as many Medical Qi Gong practices like the Inner

Smile meditation. I regard these as internal, patient empowering

forms of at its best. I believe they address the

emotions at the neurotransmitter level using the

sympathetic/parasympathetic regulation provided by the breath

(inhale=sympathetic: exhale=parasympathetic). When paired with

somatic visualization (inhale anger: exhale compassion) it becomes

quite powerful and completely self empowering. Of course, in this

way, we prevent many diseases from ever happening, and pave the way

for the body to achieve homeostasis during current disease

processes. Hope this isn't too far off topic--I believe it is of

utmost importance in our practices to suggest mind exercises to

prevent unnecessary patient visits, expense and suffering. My

patients love them and are experiencing amazing transformations not

only in their health but emotional wellbeing, realtionships and

levels of maturity.

Thanks, Shanna

 

Chinese Medicine , " Rein, Glen "

<grein@E...> wrote:

> Hi,

> I'm a biochemist/neurochemist by training but specialize in Energy

Medicine.

> I research the biological effects of subtle energy generated by

machines,

> healers and QiGong practitioners.

> I am interested in all aspects of Qi as a form of subtle energy.

>

> I look forward to stimulating exchanges with your group.

>

> Glen Rein, Ph.D

> Quantum Biology Research

> Northport, NY

>

>

>

>

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