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Hi all,

I am a new member on this list. My name is Olivia T.

Alex, I am married, and we have a soon to be 19 year

old son, Derek. We own an organic farm, where we

produce mostly vegetables, berries and grapes, and

also some fruits. Our farm is located near the

township of Oliver, B.C., in Canada. Just south of us,

is the town of Oroville, WA., USA. My main hobbies and

interrests are: Photography; Nature hikes; Gardening;

Internet; Reading; Qigong; Internal Qigong; Zhineng

Qigong; Zhineng medicine; Internal yoga; acupressure;

Jin Shin Jyutsu; magnetic healing; Pranic healing. My

form of acupressure is actually not of the normal

kind, but rather deals mostly with the extra channels.

My reason for joining this list is to learn a bit

about the use of herbs and acu-puncture theory in TCM.

 

Hope to hear from you all, soon!

 

Olivia

 

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> I had a very busy weekend. Sunday was particularly

> tiring as we went into town and did a lot of

> shopping. I did an unusual amount of walking around.

> Plus, at one point my blood sugar dropped quite a

> lot, and I couldn't get something to eat right away.

 

 

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Hi Olivia,

 

Welcome to the list.

 

>Qigong; Internal Qigong; Zhineng

>Qigong; Zhineng medicine; Internal yoga; acupressure;

>Jin Shin Jyutsu; magnetic healing; Pranic healing. My

>form of acupressure is actually not of the normal

>kind, but rather deals mostly with the extra channels.

 

I hope you will be posting on these.

 

I'll start the ball rolling with some info on some of the other meridians. In

addition to the 12 standard meridians, there are others. Eight of these are

called " Strange Flows " . Readers are familiar with two of these, the Yang

Governor Vessel which runs up the middle of the back and the Yin Conception

Vessel which runs up the middle of the front of the body. These two do get used

quite a bit.

 

But there are others. One of the purposes of the 8 Strange Flows is is to even

out and balance energy flow in the body. They're like a backup system for when

things go wrong in the 12 standard meridians. Say there's a block in one of the

standard meridians, and too much energy is building up in that meridian as a

result of the block. One way to relieve some of that energy is by channeling it

through one of the Strange Flow meridians. In the case of a deficiency of energy

in a standard meridian, energy can be channeled to it via one of the Strange

Flow meridians. They provide connections among the 12 standard merdians. Think

of how the Panama Canal provides a connection between the Atlantic and Pacific

Oceans.

 

The Chinese named these connecting and alternative channels " Strange Flows "

because they thought they were so marvelous. I have read that the Strange Flow

channels are more easily affected by hands and meditation than the other

channels. If so, this may be part of the basis of how laying on of hands and

even massage works in healing in all cultures. The healer is using the Strange

Flow channels to even out energy flow in the person's body.

 

Victoria

 

 

 

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Thanks Victoria!

But my contritutions have to wait a bit. I am

extremely busy right now, with business, and also with

the preparations of our son's wedding. Perhaps, after

all that is done?

 

Olivia

 

--- victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon

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>

> Hi Olivia,

>

> Welcome to the list.

>

 

 

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HI Olivia ,

welcome to the group! All your hobbies sound very interesting,

could you explain a bit more about the following:

Qigong as opposed to Internal Qigong (do you mean one with

movement and one without?);

Zhineng Qigong; Zhineng medicine: Do you have the Chinese

characters for Zhi neng, or the meaning? Where are the origins

of Zhineng medicine and what are the differences to TCM?

Greetings,

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>But my contritutions have to wait a bit. I am

>extremely busy right now, with business, and also with

>the preparations of our son's wedding. Perhaps, after

>all that is done?

 

That will be fine.

 

One thing about a list that deals with herbs is that a lot of the members tend

to be gardeners or farmers, and spring is a very busy time of year.

 

The only reason I'm not out doing more gardening is I live in a desert. It's

warm, but there won't be much in the way of greenary until the summer monsoon.

 

Victoria

 

 

 

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Hi Dagmar,

Thank you for the welcome! Internal forms of qigong

and yoga, are completely directed into developing the

mental and spiritual aspects of the being. A slow but

steady awakening usually results. The goal is also to

develop an ability to channel spiritual energies for

the betterment of humankind. The beginnings are

similar to regular qigong, but after that it becomes

more and more spiritual. Zhineng medicine is probably

the easiest form of internal qigong, and can probably

be found in the internet. Zhineng qigong sounds

similar, but isn't. This form, originates in mainland

China, and has been probably the most recent of all

the internal forms. As you probably know, the goal in

qigong is to develop the energy in the lower dantien.

In internal qigong, the middle and upper-dantien, are

also being fully developed. This results in the

development of the so-called psychic functions of the

energy body. In internal qigong, this is not

considered para-normal, but rather an unused function

of the brain and energy body. As you probably already

know, humans use only a very small amount of their

brains. I am unsure, as to how much, but only know

that it is a very small part. Speculation abounds as

to what the rest of the brain was designed for.

Perhaps for interacting with energies from the

universe, and spirit? It is certainly very

interresting to speculate upon that. I can guarantee,

that energy is real. From my 11 years in qigong, I can

verify as to that fact. The problem is perhaps that

when you open up the energy body, it is just like

opening up a can of worms. The energies need to be

constantly redirected with the mind, then, or will

cause to much energy to pool in one spot or another.

After a while, this is done automatically, not unlike

learning how to bike ride, etc. It is a very difficult

process, and should really be done under the

supervision of a very qualified teacher of qigong. It

has been compared as letting millions of volts, course

through a wire that has only been designed, for say,

110 Volts.

Hope that this will explain a little bit about the

internal forms.

 

Olivia

 

--- Dagmar Riley <dagmar-riley wrote:

> HI Olivia ,

> welcome to the group! All your hobbies sound very

> interesting,

> could you explain a bit more about the following:

> Qigong as opposed to Internal Qigong (do you mean

> one with

> movement and one without?);

> Zhineng Qigong; Zhineng medicine: Do you have the

> Chinese

> characters for Zhi neng, or the meaning? Where are

> the origins

> of Zhineng medicine and what are the differences to

> TCM?

> Greetings,

> Dagmar

> *******************************************

> Dagmar's free CHINESE MEDICINE NEWSLETTER!

> Subscribe by sending a BLANK email to:

> Letter-from-China-

>

>

 

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Oliver, B.C., Canada

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That is really too bad, Victoria! I find gardening so

relaxing, and satisfying too, seeing all the fruits of

ones own labour.

 

Olivia

 

--- victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon

wrote:

>

> That will be fine.

>

> One thing about a list that deals with herbs is that

> a lot of the members tend to be gardeners or

> farmers, and spring is a very busy time of year.

>

> The only reason I'm not out doing more gardening is

> I live in a desert. It's warm, but there won't be

> much in the way of greenary until the summer

> monsoon.

>

> Victoria

>

>

>

> --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--

> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

>

 

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hiya:)

You can call me Sose:)

Yes, I'm from Kansas. I do a lot of crafting and a lot of woodwork and natural beauty stuff. I have been making my own oils for a couple years. But there is only so much that grows around here:) And without a still to make the oils in, they have a short shelf life.

 

I have just recently gotten into the wonderful world of bulk buying:) My job as a web designer recently moved so that I can work at home pretty much full time. Which gives me a lot more time to devote to my hobbies. I hope to find a comfy community here that can shop together:)

 

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Hi Sose!

 

I'm Lena and I'm from Portugal. I start getting envolved with

aromatherapy in a short time, less than a year ago, but I'm loving

it. That is so great what happened to you! I'd love to have a work-

from-home job too some day. I have an aunt in Brazil who does

woodwork and crafts too, and she has her own business now too.

 

How do you make the oils yourself??? You'll like it here at the

group, you'll see :)))

 

Just a question: what kind of natural beauty stuff do ya make?

 

 

Nice to meet ya!

Hugs,

 

Lena

 

 

the_oil_co-op , leanashe@w... wrote:

> hiya:)

> You can call me Sose:)

> Yes, I'm from Kansas. I do a lot of crafting and a lot of woodwork

and natural beauty stuff. I have been making my own oils for a couple

years. But there is only so much that grows around here:) And without

a still to make the oils in, they have a short shelf life.

>

> I have just recently gotten into the wonderful world of bulk

buying:) My job as a web designer recently moved so that I can work

at home pretty much full time. Which gives me a lot more time to

devote to my hobbies. I hope to find a comfy community here that can

shop together:)

>

> Dew Drop Blessings,

> Soseneda

>

> Si hoc legere scis ninium eruditionis habes.

> ICQ# 47264444

> MSN Messenger: Soseneda

> AIM: SosenedaA

> " Knowledge is power. Unless you forget where you put the adapter. "

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<<How do you make the oils yourself??? You'll like it here at the group, you'll see :))>>

 

There are several processes for extracting the oils from herbs. Some are very simple, like let a bunch of the herbs hang upside down in a glass jar in a dark place for a week or two. The gunk in the bottom of the jar is mostly oil, and will separate over the next week in a dark bottle. Then you just pour the oil off the top and bottle it. This process doesn't do much in the way of preserving it, but it does make some wonderful flavored oils very easily.

 

There are hot press and cold press methods also that involve water to extract them. The more complicated heat methods will produce longer lasting shelf life oils. But the cold methods are easier.

 

I got interested in making my own oils after brewing for a few years. I love to make meads and wines, and other home brewed folk drinks. And extracting oils uses a lot of the same equipment. And I could also use the oils to add extra layers of flavor to my drinks without diluting them.

 

Then I got into making my own beauty products. My mother has done this her whole life, and after taking up my own interests, I went back to helping her. I was getting married soon, and had to learn to do this stuff for myself. I make things like soap and shampoo, toner, cold creams, makeups, lots of medicine cabinet things like medicinal salves, and balms. I also make deodorant and shaving creams. And toothpaste, sometimes. I prefer just water and baking soda, but my kids don't like that:) They would rather have licorice flavored toothpaste:) I love to make all of these things. It gives me a lot of control over what goes on my skin. My mother originally did it because she was born with lots of allergies to all sorts of chemicals. I don't have those allergies, but still much prefer the homemade stuff to the stuff from the store.

 

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Soseneda,

 

You mentioned that you do homebrewing. Do you have a good, easy recipe for honey wine. I'd like to try and make some, but I am concerned about doing it right. Steralizing seems like a complicated process. If you don't mind sharing, I'd love to learn.

 

By the way, welcome to the group.

 

Kate

 

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welcome, sose!

(on the professional note - i am curious what applications you

use for your web designing - director, flash, go live . . . do you use

a pc or a mac?, and if i can look at a couple sites that you

have done. - i am a graphic designer / manager, - mostly print with

some web based graphics, and interested in moving more into the

electronic arena. - any advice?)

 

sorry to throw so many questions at you.

my work email: andrea_sperle

 

 

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> leanashe

> Reply the_oil_co-op

> Sunday, September 3, 2000 8:29 PM

> the_oil_co-op

> Re: [the_oil_co-op] New member

>

>

>

>

> eGroups My Groups | the_oil_co-op Main Page | Start a new group!

>

>

>

> hiya:)

> You can call me Sose:)

> Yes, I'm from Kansas. I do a lot of crafting and a lot of woodwork and

> natural beauty stuff. I have been making my own oils for a couple years.

> But there is only so much that grows around here:) And without a still to

> make the oils in, they have a short shelf life.

>

> I have just recently gotten into the wonderful world of bulk buying:) My

> job as a web designer recently moved so that I can work at home pretty

> much full time. Which gives me a lot more time to devote to my hobbies. I

> hope to find a comfy community here that can shop together:)

>

> Dew Drop Blessings,

> Soseneda

>

> Si hoc legere scis ninium eruditionis habes.

> ICQ# 47264444

> MSN Messenger: Soseneda

> AIM: SosenedaA

> " Knowledge is power. Unless you forget where you put the adapter. "

>

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Hi Teresa!

 

I hope you enjoy this group! I personally have a lot of fun here

learning about oils and crafts with oils, and we have a wonderful

supplier! ;) Oh, I'm Lena and I'm from Portugal - I'm the only

foreigner here LOL

 

 

Have fun! Hugs,

 

Lena

 

 

the_oil_co-op , " T.L.P. S " <whytewillow@a...> wrote:

> Greetings All,

>

> Thanks for the warm intro. My name is Teresa and I live in eastern

> North Carolina. I am into many crafts such as crocheting,

> woodworking, and most recent interest in herbs and oils in crafts.

I

> see by looking in the archives there is much to buy and share with

> the group. Looking forward to getting to share with all.

>

> Blessings,

> Teresa

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Welcome Teresa!

 

I'm big in to crafts (esp crochet) myself. I think you'll enjoy it here.

 

Kate

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welcome, teresa!

 

what part of north carolina?

my husbands family lives near ashville.

 

cheers. andréa

 

 

 

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> T.L.P. S

> Reply the_oil_co-op

> Tuesday, September 5, 2000 10:34 PM

> the_oil_co-op

> [the_oil_co-op] New Member

>

>

> Greetings All,

>

> Thanks for the warm intro. My name is Teresa and I live in eastern

> North Carolina. I am into many crafts such as crocheting,

> woodworking, and most recent interest in herbs and oils in crafts. I

> see by looking in the archives there is much to buy and share with

> the group. Looking forward to getting to share with all.

>

> Blessings,

> Teresa

>

>

>

>

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Greetings Andrea,

 

I am not too far from your husband's family. I live near the Hickory-Lenior

area.

 

Teresa

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its really pretty near the mountians!

they are the blue ridge mountians, right?

nice area.

 

andréa

 

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> Wednesday, September 6, 2000 3:40 PM

> the_oil_co-op

> Re: [the_oil_co-op] New Member

>

>

> Greetings Andrea,

>

> I am not too far from your husband's family. I live near the

> Hickory-Lenior

> area.

>

> Teresa

>

>

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Chris

 

I wish I had time to. But my commitments to home, family, friends and career

allows me very little time for some things I would love to explore. So,

unfortunately, I have to rely on craft shops and retail sales for most of the

things I have created. Just recently, I have found out how resourceful the

internet can be for me, and very glad I found this group.

 

Teresa

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i was there once. very purty!

do you go wildcrafting teresa? if you do, would you like to trade

some respectfully wildcrafted rocky mountain herbs for some

respectfully wildcrafted blue ridge mountain herbs? i'm going

wildcrafting tomorrow, saturday and then next week again at the full

moon.

*smile*

chris

 

the_oil_co-op , whytewillow@a... wrote:

> Yes, that's right. The Blue Ridge Mountains.

>

> Teresa

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Hello,

It seems I am on another list with Ziggy but didn't know it until now.

 

I was lookign for oils and found this list so I was very interested in what

was going on here and hoping to get involved and get some oils stocked up!

 

Starr

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" Ziggy " <chrisziggy

<the_oil_co-op >

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 9:33 PM

[the_oil_co-op] New Member

 

 

>

> Everyone, lets welcome Star to the group:)

> Make yourself at home, feel free to scan the archives and introduce

> yourself.

> *smile*

> chris

>

>

>

>

>

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small world! *LOL* glad you found us :)

*smile*

chris

 

the_oil_co-op , " Starr " <starlove@e...> wrote:

> Hello,

> It seems I am on another list with Ziggy but didn't know it until

now.

>

> I was lookign for oils and found this list so I was very interested

in what

> was going on here and hoping to get involved and get some oils

stocked up!

>

> Starr

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In a message dated 9/7/00 10:31:12 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

chrisziggy writes:

 

<< Everyone, lets welcome Robbin to the group:)

Make yourself at home, feel free to scan the archives and introduce

yourself.

*smile*

chris >>

 

Chris,

Thank you for the wonderful welcome. I will let you know later tonight on the

oils and herbs. Thank you so much for allowing me to come to a wonderful

little community. These communities are wonderful Ideas!

BB

Robbin

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Hi everyone, my name is Beverly but I go by Bev. I live in Oklahoma

and am in the process of opening a retail shop, it was suppose to

open last month but due to a car accident it is taking me a little

while longer to open. I plan on carrying bath & body body products,

candles, fitz & floyd and some nice antique pieces. I am also a

building contractor & designer. I have 2 boys 19 & 21 and about 9

months out of the year we drag race. In the shop I am opening I am

going to try and make as many things as possible but I know there are

so many people that are much more talented than me so I am always

asking questions or wanting ideas, thanks so much, bev

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Welcome Polly!

You have joined a wonderful group of people! They are all very helpful and

the buys are wonderful! :-)

 

Hugs

Starr

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" Ziggy " <chrisziggy

<the_oil_co-op >

Sunday, September 24, 2000 11:47 PM

[the_oil_co-op] New Member

 

 

>

> Everyone, lets welcome Polly to the group :)

> Make yourself at home, feel free to scan the archives and introduce

> yourself.

> *smile*

> chris

>

>

>

>

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