Introduction

[Guest guest]

Hi Allison. Welcome. Well I can tell you from a very middle class point of view that it does seem that living green is pricier. I think that the first thing you should do is start slow. Don't get over whelmed. As my Dad always told me " Rome was not built in a day " So take it slow. Start out with what you use most. I have changed our families eating habits first. I started out with whole grains, then organic fruits and veggies and almost organic meat from the butcher. That stuff is a little more expensive BUT I counter act the dollar or so more for better foods by... making my own house hold cleaners and cutting back on spending. Money is usually very tight for us and we do live paycheck to paycheck. But I find good deals here and there. I also check out co ops for my natural soaps and lotions ect and I am currently in the process of learning how to make my own soap. I grow my own veggies and some fruits in the summer and that saves me too. Once you can sit back and even make a list ( I live by lists) you can pick certain things to do first. You don't have to do it all at once. Each change you make will help you and eventually you will be living simple and green Feel free to e-mail me if you want to talk more. I just recently " made the change " so maybe i can help you organize

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Allison <allisonhavemann wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hi everyone! My name is Allison and I am new to the group. I am 27

years old and recently moved into my first place, a townhouse, with

my fiance, Brian - well kinda, he's still living at home until we get

married and Im setting up house . Anyway, I had cancer when I was

18 - thyroid cancer - and only recently was I told that the only way

to get thyroid cacner was overexposure to radiation which comes from

our livestyles, processed foods, etc. I then read Nourishing

Traditions and the Makers Diet and have become convicted that this is

the way to live. My question is this - where to start! Im so used to

a consumer based lifestyle that I dont know where to start. Im all

about (and always have been) about living simply, but it seems like

there is so much information out there that its overwhelming - it

also seems EXPENSIVE to live simply! I am grateful now though that I

have all used things in my house given to us by family members - we

spent just under $100 to get new things in our house - the rest were

gifts which were used and are working just fine . I want to eat

whole/organic foods, cook naturally and live green, but it all seems

so costly - at least where I live it is - near Philly.

 

Any advice?

 

Thanks!

Allison

 

simplechristianliving.blogspot.com

 

 

 

 

-- Check out MickotaGifts.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

I agree that going slow and thoroughly

researching is a good idea. Sometimes things seem green which really aren’t.

Also, think about what are your biggest concerns. I know that I met with

some Weston A Price folks who felt that if you the natural foods (including raw

dairy, fermented foods, kefir, soaking grains, etc) then the chemicals in

things like shampoo didn’t matter as much if your body is healthy from

food. It has to be some kind of balance (whatever you choose) or you will

drive yourself or your fiancé crazy.

 

I know that I have felt very strongly

about giving my kids organic milk which I had been buying at my local grocery

store for $3.40 to $3.99 per half gallon depending on the brand. Then I

went to a local ice cream store which also sells local, organic dairy and meats

and found that they are charging $3.30 and I feel more confident that the cows

producing this milk are “happy cows.” This is a little out of

the way by about 5 miles but it is worth it and it tastes much better and it’s

actually less expensive. Check out www.localharvest.com

to find local farmers. There are also some things you can buy at the

regular grocery that on the scale of thing are still OK like the triangle

Triscuits. I think there are only 3 ingredients and if you want a cracker

this is a good choice.

 

In order to keep costs down, maybe you can

reduce your meats for meals. Make one night a vegetarian night.

Make things like stir frys and sautés where you can easily have more

veggies than meats. Check out www.MeatoutMondays.com

for ideas. This is a great time of year to start with salads and fruits.

 

I am not that far from you in Harford County, MD.

I’m sure you can find a local to help you find

resources. Check for Weston A Price or local farmers markets. This

website http://www.foodnews.org/ gives

you a list of what produce has the most and least pesticides. www.ewg.org is another good site for info.

 

Good Luck

[Guest guest]

Nice to meet you Allison.

I'm Denise(everyone calls me Sluggy tho) and I live north of you, about 45 min. above Allentown. We are a family of 5 w/4 dogs in a small town 'burb setting, trying to do the healthy stuff. Last year I joined a veggie CSA for the 1st time and loved it! I also had a small garden and canned some for the 1st time in a looong time.

This year I am in the CSA again and I am expanding my own garden too. I also found a farm to get meat direct from the source. Unfortunately, I live too far from the farm to get meat/dairy on a reg. basis as they don't deliver up here, and organic meat/dairy is hard to come by locally.

If you are looking for a CSA for meat/dairy(they are adding veggies this summer/spring too), the one I use sometimes makes deliveries to Philly area the last Tues. of every month. I don't know what the minimum order $ is but Email me offlist for the info. if you want it.

Welcome!

Sluggy

 

 

 

-

Allison

Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:14 PM

[RFSL] Introduction

 

 

Hi everyone! My name is Allison and I am new to the group. I am 27 years old and recently moved into my first place, a townhouse, with my fiance, Brian - well kinda, he's still living at home until we get married and Im setting up house . Anyway, I had cancer when I was 18 - thyroid cancer - and only recently was I told that the only way to get thyroid cacner was overexposure to radiation which comes from our livestyles, processed foods, etc. I then read Nourishing Traditions and the Makers Diet and have become convicted that this is the way to live. My question is this - where to start! Im so used to a consumer based lifestyle that I dont know where to start. Im all about (and always have been) about living simply, but it seems like there is so much information out there that its overwhelming - it also seems EXPENSIVE to live simply! I am grateful now though that I have all used things in my house given to us by family members - we spent just under $100 to get new things in our house - the rest were gifts which were used and are working just fine . I want to eat whole/organic foods, cook naturally and live green, but it all seems so costly - at least where I live it is - near Philly.Any advice?Thanks!Allisonsimplechristianliving.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

Hi Christina

 

Lovely to read about another mother who protects her children from

vaccinations, there are heaps of excellent articles here if you check the

files - it is a great group and lots of things to learn - there's always

someone with interesting information about most things! I know how you feel

about " other people " most people are content to remain brain washed = or

maybe its really just brain dead about vaccines - they just do not want to

know or want to care enough about what is happening to their children ( or

their pets ) lets just pray that the " authorities " don't make it too

difficult for the intelligent members of society by attempting to enforce

vaccination!

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

" Christina " <cacuna0221

 

 

Hello everyone I just wanted to say hello and introduce myself.

 

My name is Christina I live in New Hampshire and I was begining to

think a group like this didnt exist. I have 3 beautiful children which

I choose not to vaccinate and it is like telling people that I am

crazy when they find out.

[Guest guest]

I couldn't agree with you more. The best way to stay healthy is to

NOT go to the drs.

 

I have seven children and my 25 year old had most his vaccinations,

although it was not nearly as many as they do now. The next two had a

couple and the rest had none. My youngest however does have

autism/seizures.

 

I am also a dog breeder and we do not vaccinate our dogs or puppies.

Funny, my adult dogs never ever ever get sick. Think there's a link?

 

I have alot of good info on my website.

 

I enjoy this group although I am usually silent.

 

Maryjo

www.buttercuppuppies.com

>

> I just joined this group yesterday and want to thank everyone for the

> wonderful and informative messages posted.

>

> I am 75 and well at least no degenerative diseases of old age. I

joined

> this list so that I can help myself to stay well. My grandfather

> (Homeopath), and two uncles were doctors and they all said the same

> thing...If You Get Sick, Don't go to a doctor.

>

> I have always been interested in helping others with their health but

> the most disappointing thing is, that most people I know don't care and

> think that being sick is just part of life. Some people no matter

what,

> just don't get it.

>

> I am learning about herbs and electromedicine, am using a zapper and

> making my own herbal tonics (prevention). Most people think I am crazy

> but they are sick and I am well, so who is crazy? I never take

> vaccinations have never had a flu shot, will never have one and I have

> never had the flu. I don't vaccinate my pets either.

>

> Just thanks to all of you caring people, this is just the list I was

> looking for.

>

> Anne

> VA USA

>

[Guest guest]

That was a lovely introduction !

Welcome

Blessed be .....

 

 

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Patricia. <owlthena wrote:

 

Patricia. <owlthena

[CrystalHW] Introduction

 

Monday, August 4, 2008, 8:06 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi,

 

I am new to this group, I am 52 , I have been married to my best friend

and lover for 31 years, I am mother of 2 grown daughters, and have 2

wonderful grandsons ages 3 and 5. I travel full time with hubby who is a

truck driver, I don't work , having health 'issues'. I keep home on the

road, cooking all our meals, and doing what homemakers do but as a

'gypsy' on the road, we are home about 2 days and on road between 7 to

12 days at a time.

 

Crystals, what can I say about them, they are diffinitely gifts from God

and Mother Earth. I have Fibromyalgia and arthritis and I have a few of

my crystal friends that have helped me through some rough times with

pain and I am forever grateful for their healing and service of love.

 

I sometimes use a pendulum , I have a few, one is an Australian crystal

that in its real life was made for the pull chain of my ceiling fan, but

I found that it was shaped perfectly for a pendulum and I have a real

pretty Australian crystal with many facets that let in the rainbow of

lights when the sun shines in it. I have a few real crystal ones to. one

of the uses of my pendulum is for chakra balancing and checking. I have

small tumble stones with appropriate color for each chakra that I use

for this, I place for instance the 1st chakra stone, which is either a

red jasper or a smoky quartz or obsidian in my hand and place near my

lower pelvic area and with my rt. hand I hold my pendulum over the stone

in my left hand and I let it swing to let me know if it is blocked or

balanced or in need of balance, I do this with all the chakras and stone

colors and have found that it really worked. I found out that it really

worked by going to a friend of mine who did reflexology and stone work

and she went over my chakras (I did my chakra balancing before I went to

her that same day)she found that they were all balanced and in good

working order and so verified to me that my method did work.

 

I am no adapt or expert with crystals and stones, but I have found them

to be a great ally in my life. I have a few healers that as long as they

are placed on my achy spots will take the pain away, I at first thought

that this stuff was way out there in left field, but from personal

experience I have found that they indeed have healing qualities and I no

longer poo poo them.Call me crazy but I know that they indeed do what

they do. I have over the years collected many crystal and stone friends

and I love each of them dearly. I had picked up 2 crystals that are

about 3 to 4 inches long and about 1inch wide, not to pretty to look

at, pretty rough around the edges and I have found them to be wonderful

healers, and dream helpers. When I place one of these stones on my body

to ease my many aches and pains, at night when I go to bed, I have found

that they also help me with dream recall and they make my dreams more

vivid, and never fail me.

 

I hope to be of service to any of you if I can, and I hope to learn alot

as well.

 

blessed be

 

Owlthena (Pat)

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris,

 

My mother has bad depression so i have looked into it for her. Consider looking

into these St johns wort, vit b 12 sunblingual tablets ( there is a form that

starts with an M which is better than the cyano form Ive heard) b 12 shots from

a doc,exercise I know there are much more out there but these just came to mind

Good luck,

 

Bob

 

 

, " Chris Vaughn "

<cvaughn919 wrote:

>

> Hi my name is chris and i am 53 y.o. w/m who lives in the the midwest US (IN).

I have suffered from chronic depression and anxiety for a number of years tho

lately the depression is less and anxiety now considered panic disorder. i also

have issues with chronic pain due to a virulent form of arthritis that has

spread from my neck down my spine now into hips and knees even. anyways

medications have not been the biggest help, and i am looking for alternatives.

lately i have begun using kava to help me with my anxiety and am seeking to get

away from the addictive pain drugs and SSRI's which are mentally addictive. I

want to treat using herbs and natural products. I want to add that the vicious

circles of chronic pain and depression intersect and feed off each other.

>

> chris in IN

>

[Guest guest]

<delurking>

 

Hi, David...welcome to the list! I've been around forever but usually just lurk

in the background. (Once a year or so I poke my head up and say hello.) Sounds

like with your background that you'll have some interesting stories to share

with us list members... <smiles>

 

--Celia--

 

, David M Augenstein <daugenstein

wrote:

>

> We are small homesteaders and are interested in farming and food. We have a

food group locally and statewide. I publish the Journal of Whole Food and

Nutrition with farm topics. You may like to see it

http://wholefoodusa.wordpress.com

>

> David M. Augenstein, M.S., P.E. " Augie "

> Ohio Connections to Whole Food and Nutritional Healing

> Canton Ohio Connections

>

> & uarr; Grab this Headline Animator

>

[Guest guest]

Good to hear from you, Cee! I wa just thinking about you a couple days ago. You must be psychic-or I knew it was about time for your yearly post. rotfl!

 

Hope all is well!

 

Cyndi

 

 

 

Celia B <lady_celia

 

Mon, Oct 12, 2009 5:21 am

[RFSL] Re: Introduction

 

 

 

 

<delurking>

 

Hi, David...welcome to the list! I've been around forever but usually just lurk in the background. (Once a year or so I poke my head up and say hello.) Sounds like with your background that you'll have some interesting stories to share with us list members... <smiles>

 

--Celia--

 

, David M Augenstein <daugenstein wrote:

>

> We are small homesteaders and are interested in farming and food. We have a food group locally and statewide. I publish the Journal of Whole Food and Nutrition with farm topics. You may like to see it http://wholefoodusa.wordpress.com

>

> David M. Augenstein, M.S., P.E. "Augie"

> Ohio Connections to Whole Food and Nutritional Healing

> Canton Ohio Connections

>

> & uarr; Grab this Headline Animator

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, Cyndi!

 

Life is quite changed, but all *is* well! I think I told you I lost my job two

years ago (as well as got divorced, had to give up the house and my dog

died...all in one year!), and I was waiting to see where Terry (my son) was

going to relocate...hoping for sunny CA. Well, after two years of false starts,

it's finally here! WOO-HOO! He's finally got his PhD and he's off for his

first of 2 interviews with Lawrence Livermore Lab tomorrow AM followed by an

interview at Los Alamos in two weeks. Right now Livermore has the edge, so I

may get to move to CA after all. <huge grin>

 

Terry & Nikki (she's a school teacher) hired me full time to be a nanny to the

babies while I was unemployed, so work is quite different than what it was in

big business sales and marketing. (They can afford it though!) I used to wear

a business suit to work...now I wear comfortable clothes and come home from work

with spit-up and yogurt in my hair, LOL! Detroit is still in the pits

economically, so I am looking forward to getting out of Michigan.

 

Most of all, I am looking forward to having a garden again, especially herbs and

a winter garden!

 

Right now I have a small apartment all by myself and I sold 90% of what I owned

when I sold the house. Despite stripping myself of most of my worldly

possessions, I was surprised at how much had to be moved in, so once again I am

de-cluttering and it feels GREAT. Can't tell you how good it feels to

de-materialize my life...I feel clearer headed, more focused and mentally and

physically less cluttered. I freecycled a lot of it, so others are benefiting

too. I have started eating a more simple diet with much lower carbs so I feel

great and have lost 28 lbs. with little effort. I have also taken steps to

green up my life with home-made cleansers, using a lot of vinegar and baking

soda while cleaning, and I FINALLY started using cast iron pans after years of

threatening to do so. PHEW! Baby steps, baby steps...

 

Oh, and I just got back from a tour of Italy which was the trip of a lifetime

for me!

 

That's what's happening with me. How 'bout with you???

 

--Celia--

 

 

 

, cyndikrall wrote:

>

>

> Good to hear from you, Cee! I wa just thinking about you a couple days ago.

You must be psychic-or I knew it was about time for your yearly post. rotfl!

>

>

>

> Hope all is well!

>

>

>

> Cyndi

>

>

>

> Celia B <lady_celia

>

> Mon, Oct 12, 2009 5:21 am

> [RFSL] Re: Introduction

>

<delurking>

>

> Hi, David...welcome to the list! I've been around forever but usually just

lurk in the background. (Once a year or so I poke my head up and say hello.)

Sounds like with your background that you'll have some interesting stories to

share with us list members... <smiles>

>

> --Celia--

>

> , David M Augenstein <daugenstein@>

wrote:

> >

> > We are small homesteaders and are interested in farming and food. We have a

food group locally and statewide. I publish the Journal of Whole Food and

Nutrition with farm topics. You may like to see it

http://wholefoodusa.wordpress.com

> >

> > David M. Augenstein, M.S., P.E. " Augie "

> > Ohio Connections to Whole Food and Nutritional Healing

> > Canton Ohio Connections

> >

> > & uarr; Grab this Headline Animator

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Janette;

 

Welcome to the group and thanks for the introduction! You've already taken your first step. <grin>

 

There are several things you can do to feed your family whole foods and "go green." There's so much to say on the subject, I'm not actually sure where to start, lol. It would be helpful to know what level you are at now. Do you grow any of your own vegetables? Do you make any of your own cleaning supplies or laundry detergents? Do you visit your local farmers markets to shop? All of these things are good ways to get your feet wet. It's my personal belief that growing at least a portion of your own food is THE best way to start a healthier, simpler lifestyle. And once you start researching home made cleansers, you'll be amazed at what you can do with baking soda, washing soda, lemon juice, etc.

 

You can visit localharvest.org to find lots of locally grown, organic foods in your area. You can also go to westonaprice.org and click on LOCAL CHAPTERS to find a group in your area. The WAP people know a LOT about good nutrition, and you'll find a ton of good information on their site. If you can find a local chapter, you can find out where the best places to shop in your area are. They will know everything, trust me, lol.

 

After growing your own food comes preserving your own food. Arts like canning, freezing and dehydrating will help you become more frugal and self sufficient. Plus, they are all great things to do with your children and to teach them. there's a lot of lessons to be learned from growing and preserving your own food.

 

 

I hope this all isn't too much information. I understand that it all seems very overwhelming when you first start. I can tell you that we all start in small ways. Change one thing at a time, and when you are comfortable integrating it into your life and happy with the results, then move on to the next item. I highly suggest making a priority list and work on one things at a time so you don't become overwhelmed. One day you'll wake up and look around and note all your changes and accomplishments, and you'll be amazed at how much you've done. Please let us know if you have any questions along the way. :-)

 

Cyndi

 

 

 

druidicwiccan

 

Sun, Oct 18, 2009 5:52 pm

[RFSL] Introduction

 

 

 

 

I just joined this group and thought I would introduce myself... I am a homeschool mom of 6... ranging in ages from 15 months to 18 yrs old. We live on one income in Fullerton Ca. I am looking to live in a way that is natural and simple...I am not sure where to start. I want to feed my family whole foods and go as green as possible. Any ideas and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am looking forward to getting to know all of you.

 

Janette

[Guest guest]

Well, you've joined the right group, Janette! Cyndi and gang will provide you

with lots of info and ideas, and they make a great sounding board when you need

ideas.

 

Welcome to the group!

 

--Celia--

 

, druidicwiccan wrote:

>

> I just joined this group and thought I would introduce myself... I am a

> homeschool mom of 6... ranging in ages from 15 months to 18 yrs old. We

> live on one income in Fullerton Ca. I am looking to live in a way that is

> natural and simple...I am not sure where to start. I want to feed my family

> whole foods and go as green as possible. Any ideas and suggestions would be

> greatly appreciated. I am looking forward to getting to know all of you.

>

> Janette

>

[Guest guest]

Best thing you can do is put in a garden. Make it a homeschool activity, and well looks like you have 6 helpers for the garden!!! Then you can add more steps along the way. Kelly--- On Sun, 10/18/09, druidicwiccan <druidicwiccan wrote:druidicwiccan <druidicwiccan[RFSL] Introduction Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 8:52 PM

 

 

I just joined this group and thought I would introduce myself... I am a homeschool mom of 6... ranging in ages from 15 months to 18 yrs old. We live on one income in Fullerton Ca. I am looking to live in a way that is natural and simple...I am not sure where to start. I want to feed my family whole foods and go as green as possible. Any ideas and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am looking forward to getting to know all of you.

 

Janette

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone!

 

My name is Angie Dobbins-Frisbie. I am a certified birth and postpartum doula,

a postpartum doula trainer just a few weeks away from DONA approved status, an

ICEA certified childbirth eductor, a Birthing From Within mentor, and I

facilitate a Birth Trauma Support Group here in Seattle.

 

I heard about Ayurvedic Postpartum Care from a sister doula at a birth

doula retreat in Oct of 2008, and recently on another listserve.

 

I have always been interested in using Essential Oils and use them

with my birth doula clients for labor. I consider myself to be a good

cook and have always been interested in foods and their healing

properties (or ailing ones!). Massage has been something that comes

natural to me and every year have tossed around the idea of becoming an LMP, so

I am very excited to be learning the Ayurvedic way!!

 

I'm a newby to this, and am looking forward to learning from all of you!