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Hi, sorry to hear you also have arthritis not much fun. Just thought I would let you know I get web doctor on internet and they had a good article saying that glucosamin-chondroitin, msm does not do the job! So i quit taking it and think they are right as I feel no different. Just thought I would let you know. So you can come to your own conclusion. If you hear about anything to help with arthritis please let me know, as I try just about anything. Thanks LouiseDonna Gros <eddonna wrote: I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done

many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa. Have a great weekend!! Donna There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works

for one may not work for another. For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used. I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints. Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain. I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you Patt "You can lead a man to knowledge,but you can't make him think "

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Dear Donna et al,

 

Sorry I don't have the time to get into this in any way at this exact time, but it has been covered in great detail in earlier comm. A search of past posts by me on this subject will give you more data than you can imagine.

 

The solution for handling Arthritis terminatedly is the "Body Balance + Formula" in the files. Where Calcium loss is indicated (and it ususally is), a person should also take the Lemon Egg Formula which is the best ORGANIC Calcium / Magnesium / Silicon supplement I know of.

 

Forget the Medico stuff. The Body Balance + WORKS!!! So does the Lemon Egg Recipe (again - in the Files).

 

In Health and Love,

 

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Saturday, May 27, 2006 5:37 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Arthritis

 

I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa.

Have a great weekend!! Donna

 

There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works for one may not work for another.

For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used.

I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints.

Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain.

I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you

Patt

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Hi A lot of people end up with artiritis if they have been lacking in essential fatty acids. What is worse is many have been adding to the damage by eating hygrogenated fats / transfatty acids. So take a look at your diet. Stop eating margerine all together pls.This is an ancient remedy for arthiritis from Nepal... take a teaspoon of ginger power with castor oil every night. But like any complementary medicine you will need to give it time...6 months at least for noticeable results.warmlyBegum (Ms)Louise <magoo5396 wrote: Hi, sorry to hear you also have arthritis not much fun. Just thought I would let you know I get web doctor on internet and they had a good article saying that glucosamin-chondroitin, msm does not do the job! So i quit taking it and think they are

right as I feel no different. Just thought I would let you know. So you can come to your own conclusion. If you hear about anything to help with arthritis please let me know, as I try just about anything. Thanks LouiseDonna Gros <eddonna wrote: I usually don't post and do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them in them

and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help. desperate in Pa. Have a great weekend!! Donna There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and

what works for one may not work for another. For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have been used. I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is good for joints. Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain. I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you Patt "You can lead a man to knowledge,but you can't make him think " Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington

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I have been treating mine with a teaspoon of cinnmon & raw honey (to

taste) mixed with hot pure water, morning & evening.

I've noticed when I don't do this the pain is worse.

 

 

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herbal remedies , Begum Ibrahim

<begumibrahim wrote:

>

> Hi

> A lot of people end up with artiritis if they have been lacking in

essential fatty acids. What is worse is many have been adding to the

damage by eating hygrogenated fats / transfatty acids. So take a look

at your diet. Stop eating margerine all together pls.

>

> This is an ancient remedy for arthiritis from Nepal...

> take a teaspoon of ginger power with castor oil every night. But

like any complementary medicine you will need to give it time...6

months at least for noticeable results.

>

> warmly

>

> Begum (Ms)

>

> Louise <magoo5396 wrote: Hi, sorry to hear you also have

arthritis not much fun. Just thought I would let you know I get web

doctor on internet and they had a good article saying that

glucosamin-chondroitin, msm does not do the job! So i quit taking it

and think they are right as I feel no different. Just thought I would

let you know. So you can come to your own conclusion. If you hear

about anything to help with arthritis please let me know, as I try

just about anything. Thanks Louise

>

> Donna Gros <eddonna wrote: I usually don't post and do

a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup, but

this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been in my

early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things including

working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and taking herbs

including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several years now. My

questions is: who does have a proven combonation that has helped them

in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs, and in what form

do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot since this is something

I have been dealing with over the past years and would love to find

something that really does help. Thanks for anyone that can help.

desperate in Pa.

>

Have a great

weekend!! Donna

> There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works

for one may not work for another.

> For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have

been used.

> I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw is

good for joints.

> Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain.

> I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you

> Patt

> " You can lead a man to knowledge,

> but you can't make him think "

>

>

>

>

>

> Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low

rates.

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kathleen where can you buy this stuff???? Thanks LouiseKathleen <ahealingplace wrote: THIS STUFF IS AWESOME! I wouldn't be without it in my cabinet.herbal remedies , "olm" wrote:>> yes i and some firneds have had good luck w a chinese topical solution > called..get this...zheng gu shui.......it is dirt cheap and i had a friend > who is a hedge fund mgr..so he is real well heeled and his wife has > artritic knees and she tried it and she swears by it...she told me tht it > was the first time her knees didnt hurt in like 15 years.....wht else can i > say..> olm> > > - > "Louise" > >

Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:28 PM> Herbal Remedies - Arthritis> > > > Hi I have ostoarthristis in both my knees and the right one is worse> > than the left any one know of any remedy that I might try. Thanks> > Louise> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > > remedy.> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and > > to> > prescribe for your own health.> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long > > as> > they behave themselves.> > Any opinions put forth by the list

members are exactly that, and any > > person> > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from > > list members, you are agreeing to> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > > members free of any liability.> >> > Dr. Ian Shillington> > Doctor of Naturopathy> > Dr.IanShillington >

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My name is Anna and I read Nutritional Posts and comment as a way to

help myself and others. I had just been reading some info on *Castor-

Oil Packs* where you soak cloths in Castor-Oil and apply to area.

 

I understand that *Castor-Oil packs* help reduce " water-retention. " A

herbal remedies , Begum Ibrahim

<begumibrahim wrote:

>

> Hi

> A lot of people end up with artiritis if they have been lacking in

essential fatty acids. What is worse is many have been adding to the

damage by eating hygrogenated fats / transfatty acids. So take a

look at your diet. Stop eating margerine all together pls.

>

> This is an ancient remedy for arthiritis from Nepal...

> take a teaspoon of ginger power with castor oil every night. But

like any complementary medicine you will need to give it time...6

months at least for noticeable results.

>

> warmly

>

> Begum (Ms)

>

> Louise <magoo5396 wrote: Hi, sorry to hear you also have

arthritis not much fun. Just thought I would let you know I get web

doctor on internet and they had a good article saying that

glucosamin-chondroitin, msm does not do the job! So i quit taking

it and think they are right as I feel no different. Just thought I

would let you know. So you can come to your own conclusion. If you

hear about anything to help with arthritis please let me know, as I

try just about anything. Thanks Louise

>

> Donna Gros <eddonna wrote: I usually don't post and

do a lot of reading and filling info since I have joined the goup,

but this is so intereting since I have arthritis since I have been

in my early 30's and now almost 60. I have done many things

including working out/ watching my weight and food that I eat, and

taking herbs including Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM for several

years now. My questions is: who does have a proven combonation that

has helped them in them and how much do you take daily of the herbs,

and in what form do you take. Any help will sure help me a lot

since this is something I have been dealing with over the past years

and would love to find something that really does help. Thanks for

anyone that can help. desperate in Pa.

>

Have a great

weekend!! Donna

> There are many ways to approach osteoarthritis and what works

for one may not work for another.

> For yrs the I believe that Glucosamine-Chondroitin and MSM have

been used.

> I read recently about Selenium being very good and Devils Claw

is good for joints.

> Other things used are Yucca, Boswellia and Bromelain.

> I think you have to come up with the combo that works for you

> Patt

> " You can lead a man to knowledge,

> but you can't make him think "

>

>

>

>

>

> Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously

low rates.

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

>

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Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here.

2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone.

Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help.

Love,

Doc

 

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Pauline

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Herbal Remedies - arthritis

 

 

I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline

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mental block here :

 

ACV ???

 

 

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what is acv? i looked on the site; but was lost...sorry.. thanks, judy"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote: Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here. 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone. Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help. Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Pauline herbal remedies Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM Herbal Remedies - arthritis I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline

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I also have chronic Fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. will this make

that worse? and can you recomment anything for that. Have alot of

weakness. Thanks, Pauline

 

-- In herbal remedies , " Dr. Ian Shillington "

<DocShillington wrote:

>

> Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here.

> 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone.

> Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help.

> Love,

> Doc

>

> Doc Shillington

> 727-447-5282

> Doc

> -

> Pauline

> herbal remedies

> Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM

> Herbal Remedies - arthritis

>

>

> I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline

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What is ACV. Thanks

Blue

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " Dr. Ian Shillington "

<DocShillington wrote:

>

> Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here.

> 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone.

> Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help.

> Love,

> Doc

>

> Doc Shillington

> 727-447-5282

> Doc

> -

> Pauline

> herbal remedies

> Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM

> Herbal Remedies - arthritis

>

>

> I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline

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Dear Pauline,

It will not make it worse, and will help.

You are a candidate for The Incurables Program.

In Health, Freedom, and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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Pauline

herbal remedies

Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:42 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - arthritis

 

 

I also have chronic Fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. will this makethat worse? and can you recomment anything for that. Have alot ofweakness. Thanks, Pauline-- In herbal remedies , "Dr. Ian Shillington"<DocShillington wrote:>> Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here.> 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone.> Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help.> Love,> Doc> > Doc Shillington> 727-447-5282> Doc - > Pauline > herbal remedies > Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM> Herbal Remedies - arthritis> > > I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline>

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What is the Incurables Program? Pauline

 

 

Original Message:

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Dr. Ian Shillington DocShillington

Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:30:09 -0400

herbal remedies

Re: Herbal Remedies - arthritis

 

 

Dear Pauline,

It will not make it worse, and will help.

You are a candidate for The Incurables Program.

In Health, Freedom, and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington

727-447-5282

Doc

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Pauline

herbal remedies

Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:42 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - arthritis

 

 

I also have chronic Fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. will this make

that worse? and can you recomment anything for that. Have alot of

weakness. Thanks, Pauline

 

-- In herbal remedies , " Dr. Ian Shillington "

<DocShillington wrote:

>

> Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here.

> 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone.

> Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help.

> Love,

> Doc

>

> Doc Shillington

> 727-447-5282

> Doc

> -

> Pauline

> herbal remedies

> Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM

> Herbal Remedies - arthritis

>

>

> I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Pauline,

I've sent the entire regimen as a separate post.

Love,

Doc

 

 

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Re: Herbal Remedies - arthritis

 

 

What is the Incurables Program? PaulineOriginal Message:-----------------Dr. Ian Shillington DocShillington (AT) Knology (DOT) netDate: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:30:09 -0400herbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - arthritisDear Pauline,It will not make it worse, and will help.You are a candidate for The Incurables Program.In Health, Freedom, and Love,DocDoc Shillington727-447-5282Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com- Pauline herbal remedies Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:42 PMRe: Herbal Remedies - arthritisI also have chronic Fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. will this makethat worse? and can you recomment anything for that. Have alot ofweakness. Thanks, Pauline-- In herbal remedies , "Dr. Ian Shillington"<DocShillington wrote:>> Again! Good old ACV is the ticket here.> 2 Tablespoons a day, and in 3 days your symptoms will be gone.> Switch over to drinking distilled water and this will also help.> Love,> Doc> > Doc Shillington> 727-447-5282> Doc - > Pauline > herbal remedies > Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:47 AM> Herbal Remedies - arthritis> > > I have arthritis in my neck. Can you suggest something. pauline>-------------------------mail2web - Check your email from the web athttp://mail2web.com/ .

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You will get plenty of answers from the group, I know, and some great

advice. Here's mine--cheap, simple and it works. I just posted this to

another group I'm on so will repost it here for you. Good luck.

 

Samala

Renee

 

I'm so impressed that I wanted to pass It on. It will seem kind of silly,

and so simple, that you will think it Won't work, or that I'm just being

crazy. I may be crazy, but truly--give This a try.

 

I belong to a group that is experimenting with these simple coils. It's

Been around for a long time and is a scientifically proven thing though it

Didn't get much interested in the " normal " outlets because it IS so simple.

I can supply links if anyone wants to read more about its background.

 

It's called a Lakhovsky coil (just google that and you can read all about

It). It's simply a piece of 10 or 12 gauge coated copper wire (like for

Wiring your house) that goes around your waist and overlaps the ends. The

Ends MUST be overlapped next to each other, NOT a closed circle. So many

People were having great success wearing this coil for arthritis, joint pain

Etc that I thought I'd give it a try. I'm a sucker for cheap experiments!

Lol Anyway, I don't have any arthritis, or joint pain, but just thought I'd

Try it out. I made it and put it on just before I went to bed last Friday

Night. Wore it all night, all day sat, all night sat night and all day

Sunday. Sunday evening I was thinking about the coil when I suddenly

Realized that I had NO PAIN!!! Now, I don't have anything I normally call

Pain, but I DO carry all my tension in my upper back and shoulders. It

Makes for very tight muscles all the time, 24 hours a day, and I've become

So use to it over the years that I don't really call it pain. Just

Tension--and I normally beg or finagle a back rub out of my husband every

night to Loosen the muscles up. I was thinking of asking him if he had time

for the rub when I suddenly realized that all my shoulder and upper back

muscles

Were already relaxed!!! And thinking about it, they had been that way all

Day long. This relaxed state has continued all the way through right now,

As I write this.

 

So, even though I wasn't wearing the coil for that reason, I still got an

Experience out of it. I reported to the group about my results and was told

That because of the energy that the coil sends out, it's best to not wear it

24/7 as I have been, because once the body gets balanced it will start

Disrupting sleep patterns. I have noticed that I am waking up earlier than

Normal, but I feel totally rested. Some people report crazy dreams when

They wear the coil at night, so most people just wear it during the day.

 

I found my wire at the local hardware store. I bought 10 gauge--and the

Bloody thing is encased in PINK plastic. Yuck I hate pink. But, that's

What it came in, and I wear it under my clothes so no one but me sees it.

Some people do use bare copper wire but then it must be cleaned every night,

And can turn the skin green. The coated wire eliminates that problem yet

Still gives the same energy pattern as the uncoated. Right now, I'm just

Taping the wires to keep the coil closed. Some people are using twist ties,

Some people have gotten some sort of car engine tubing that they glue on and

Slide the end of the wire through it. One person even has made a tube of

Material that she threads the wire through, then wraps the material around

Her waist like a belt and ties that. The whole trick, whatever you use to

Secure it, needs to be that the ends overlap each other, lying next to each

Other, and not make a closed circle. That's why it's called a coil. The

Over lap can be just a few inches. I bought the coated wire for 35 cents a

Foot, and bought 10 feet so it only cost me $3.50. I made mine, and one for

Each of the 3 dogs, and have enough left for the cats.

 

So, just thought I'd pass on this simple but powerful pain relief method.

Remember--this isn't a magic cure-all. Like a lady

In that group says (who, by the way, has been wearing a coil for 20

Years!!!) if you have a toothache, it won't cure the tooth. You will still

Have to go in and have the tooth taken care of. But for many, many types of

Pain--this can just take the pain away, especially arthritis.

 

----

 

HELP my aches in my hands, fingers annd it feels like tendons in hand

Are short. Very painfull!! Any ideas to help with PAIN

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1. Homeopathic Arnica or Rhus Tox

2. Massage

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:24 PM

 

arthritis

 

 

HELP my aches in my hands, fingers annd it feels like tendons in hand

are short. very painfull!! any ideas to help with PAIN

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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<sarisalsa wrote:

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> HELP my aches in my hands, fingers annd it feels like tendons in

hand

> are short. very painfull!! any ideas to help with PAIN

 

read on

Arthritis and joint care

 

There are about 150 different types of arthritis recognised by

rheumatologists for the term is used to cover a wide range of

illnesses covering the muscular skeletal system. Basically however

arthritis refers to inflammation of the joints the most common being

osteoarthritis.

Less common but far more disabling is rheumatoid arthritis, which is

usually a more chronic disease. Usual methods of treatment involve

aspirin which acts to suppress inflammation Cortisone that seems to

be effective but extended use has shown side effects to the adrenal

glands, which impairs the body to withstand stress. There is also a

tendency for the symptoms to intensify when the cortisone is

withdrawn.

From the Edgar cayce perspective

As a preventative measure Cayce said that one should have a peanut

oil rub or massage once a week over the entire body, the peanut oil

being used liberally, he said no one need fear arthritis.

Causes

Cayce describes the causes, which were limited to seven categories:

poor assimilation, poor elimination, impaired circulation, glandular

malfunction, karmic and psychological causes previous treatments,

spinal sublaxations and injuries.

According to cayce there was a pattern with improper eliminations in

some people, which began with the production of excess stomach acid,

a condition that sometimes came from suppressed anger and other

stress related conditions. The excess acid tended to decrease the

lymphatic system.

 

Poor assimilation was also a factor, with some foods actually

becoming poisonous due to their inability to be utilised properly.

Constipation resulted.As a contributing factor circulation was

mentioned in 40% of cases. In 8% of cases glandular misfunction was

sited as the first cause and in 29% of the readings as a

contributing factor.

 

Karma was also mentioned as a cause as was the bearing of

resentments, this was considered to be a major factor in the

development of the disease.

 

Previous treatments were also mentioned with one man being told that

certain immunisation injections had disturbed his circulation

resulting in an arthritic condition.Spinal misalignments and

injuries were also noted as a first cause, most of the readings

mentioned the coccyx or the lower portion of the spine as the source

of the problems.Other contributing causes were diet,exercise,and

mental attitude.

Treatment

1. Foods to avoided were white flour and its products, white bread,

pasta etc. fried foods, carbonated drinks, beer and hard liquor, [an

occasional glass of red wine was OK] and white potatoes but the

skins were OK.

 

2. Combinations of foods to be avoided were starches and sugar,

coffee and tea with milk or cream and citrus fruits with cereals or

dairy products.

A typical diet placed emphasis on vegetables and fruits whole grains

and light proteins.highly advised was a decrease in meats and

starches with meat being completely excluded from the diet for a

period of time .In severe cases a semi liquid diet was advised to

avoid strain on the system.

 

3. Massage,was indicated in 63% of the readings and this was to be

given usually after another treatment such as as Epsom salt baths or

after a steam bath or the use of the wet cell device. Specific oils

were advised to be used with the massage, which were equal parts of

olive oil with peanut oil and tincture of myrrh. Prepared by heating

a small amount of olive oil and then adding the myrrh. It was

mentioned to use the oils freely and as much as the body could

absorb. Other oils were lanolin, mineral oil, olio pine needles,

sassafras oil, witch hazel, oil of wintergreen, cedarwood oil,

mustard oil, kerosene and tincture of benzoin.

Cayce said to heat the oil before use to aid absorbtion. Massage

were to be given in a firm but gentle rotary motion not pinching the

muscles but drawing the circulation by moving the hands smoothly

over the skin. Special attention was to given to the neck and spine

and to parts of the body where there was discomfort. The direction

given for the massage was from the trunk to the extremities of the

body. Frequency of massage varied but the most common was once

weekly, once monthly and three times weekly.

 

4. Atomidine an edgar cayce product which can be got from the usa or

in england was also recommended in 42% of cases but due to its high

iodine content this was recommended in specific dosages and

treatment cycles. Excessive iodine in the system could overstimulate

the thyroid and result in harmful effects in the body. Never take

atomidine when you are using thyroid medicine or other drugs as the

drugs could react with each other and have undesirable effects.

The most common dosage was one drop taken daily for five days

followed by a five-day rest period then one-drop daily then rest for

five days. Then resume the cycle.Daily dosages ranged from one to

eight drops daily. It was recommended that atomidine was taken in

half glass of water in the morning before eating. Frequently

atomidine was coordinated with Epsom salt baths and massage with the

baths being taken during the rest period and immediately following

the atomidine sequence.

 

5. Improving the elimination process within the body,used in about

37% of cases the most frequent methods were castor oil packs,

enemas, colonics, and eno salts. Body temperature water was to be

used for the colonic which was to be followed by a rinse with an

antiseptic such as Glyco thymoline one-tablespoon to a quart of

water. Warm castor oil packs can be also applied over the abdominal

area together with internal doses of olive oil. The packs were made

by heating the oil and soaking the oil in woolen flannel- not

boiling the oil but as hot as you could stand. The pack was then

placed over say the stomach area or liver usualy with a plastic bag

over the top to prevent soiling the lot can be strapped into place

and then heated or kept warm.

Castor oil is also used on any arthritic, rheumatic, or muscular and

joint pain as unction. Basically an infra red lamp is placed 12-18

inches from the part to be massaged. Apply the castor oil on the

painful area and let the lamp warm it and this will help the oil to

penetrate the skin, this done for about 5-10 mins. Then keep rubbing

with the fingers and hand until the oil is worked in. Keep putting

more oil on and massaging continued for 10-60 mins. Massage was also

very helpful, to be given usually after another treatment such as an

Epsom salt bath.

 

If the reaction to colonics and enemas was to severe, emphasis was

placed on gentler methods such as Epsom salt baths, steam baths and

a diet rich in laxative foods.

Epsom salt baths were in a range of five pounds of Epsom salts to

about 20 galls of water for a modern tub and 8-10 pounds for an old

tub. Be in the tub for about 10-12 mins to start with and then work

up to 20 mins. Further stimulation to the body could be given with

using massage or rubbing the extremities of the body while in the

bath. Temp of bath was to be as hot as possible up to the point of

pain.

Epsom salt packs can be also applied when needed over areas of

extreme pain. The salts apparently act by drawing out toxins. you

can also immerse any local part of the body in a smaller basin too

with people who have arthritic hands or other parts of the body.

also you can form a pack ,by dissolving say 1 pound of salts in a

small basin or pot and as much water necessary to saturate a towel.

apply as hot as possible over the area indicated and keep repeating

the applications for 2-3 hrs .where possible use an infra red lamp

or other means to keep the pack hot. Where there is crippling of

the joints of the hands, pain of arthritis or inflammation of the

tendons considerable relief can be found by using an Epsom salt bath

and massage. Use a large quantity of the salts about 1 pound in the

water though, not just a spoon full. Soak the affected area for

about 5 mins and then massage the affected area under water, rotate

the joints and soak again for another 5-10 mins.

 

6. Spinal manipulation such as osteopathy although chiropractic and

neropathy were also recommended. Cayce claimed there was no better

mechanical therapy as good as spinal manipulation .One could start

at the base of the spine and sometimes at the top- cayce gave both

methods, and you could also work from the outer portions of the body

inwards.

 

7. Mental attitude was essential to healing; it had to be conducive

to the healing. Positive thinking opened the body to the source of

all healing- that which is spiritual and unitive in nature. Cayce

said that only the self stood in the way of healing.

 

8. Persistence and consistency of the treatments was highly

desirable.

 

9. Fume baths using a cabinet steam bath were also recommended. In

19% of readings, the baths were to relax the body and stimulate the

perspiratory system so it could throw off toxins and waste through

the skin. Various substances were to be added to the baths such as

witch hazel, which was most frequent. Atomidine, pine oil, Epsom

salts and a mixture of witch hazel and iodine, pine and wintergreen

oil, or pine oil and tincture of benzoin. To avoid strain an ice bag

or cold cloth could be placed on the head. In almost all cases

massage was recommended after the sweat.

 

10. Electrotherapy was also mentioned, using the edgar cayce device

known as the wet cell in the most severe cases. The impedance

device was also used for 20 min in cycles of four at a time;

meditation and devotional thoughts were advised during the

treatment. The violet ray was used in conjunction with other

treatments such as internal doses of chloride of gold and bromide of

soda. These were to be taken just before the violet ray treatment

and the ultraviolet light applied over the spine and lower limbs

treatment time varied from 1.5 ¡V 30 min and daily ¡V once every 2

weeks.

 

11. Internal doses of gold and soda ¡V minute amounts of chloride of

gold and bicarb of soda in half a glass of water.

 

 

Although not specifically recommended by cayce spiritual healing has

the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see other pages

on this fascinating subject.

 

From the Reilly health book which is essential reading to all those

who are interested in getting and keeping well are the directions

for the Epsom salt bath.

Relief has been obtained to joints, pain of arthritis, of

inflammation of the tendons by using Epsom salts and massage. A

seamstress was sent to Reilly, using a Epsom salt hand bath and

massage for two weeks she was able to close her hand something she

had not been able to do two weeks before. The same treatment was

applied with many musicians. Make a hot Epsom salt solution by

adding one pound of salts to a basin or bowl. Soak the hand for

about 5 mins and then massage the hand with the other hand under

water, really work the fingers rotating the joints then soak again

for another 5-10 mins. After about 20 mins of soaking take the hands

out and massage with peanut oil all the way up the arms, the same

procedure can be used with the feet.

Epsom salt baths were also advised with amounts varying between 5-20

lbs of salts to the bath tub starting at 101degress and working up

to 106-108, staying in the tub for 10-12 mins to start and then

gradually increase to 20 mins. An ice bag over certain areas with

help you bear the heat. This he found particularly good therapy for

stiff joints muscular pain arthritis and rheumatism for increasing

the metabolism and the work of the heart and relieving pain. Caution

was needed with cardiovascular and high blood pressure cases.

 

11.One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others

where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything

they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce

frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a

great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma.

See other pages on this particularly important treatment.

 

12 Using Egyptian oil,- an edgar cayce product

One lady reported pains and growths are gone and arthritis did not

come to her this year. Another reports that her knees were so

swollen but after using the oil swelling went down, she uses the oil

2-3 times a week. This other lady reports that soaking in Epsom

salts then applying the oil gave her the best results. Pain seems to

ease immediately and use of the effected parts returns far more

rapidly than ever before.

The oil had also relieved paralysis, which some poor man had on his

left side.

Another lady in her 80s reports says the oil is the only thing,

which keeps her arthritic knees. There is a lot more to the research

covering arthritis including aspects of diet,glands,etc

 

 

 

Rheumatoid Arthritis

This is a chronic inflammatory condition; it may apparently begin at

any time, the usual onset is between 20-40. The symptoms are joint

swelling stiffness, warmth tenderness and pain; this can be very

debilitating.

Cayce gave 19 readings for eleven people with this condition with an

age range of 22-72 yrs old.

Causes

1. Glandular incordination mentioned in 7 cases and was a major

factor .It was the lack of proper hormonal secretions which

contributed to problems with the circulation, the blood and calcium

levels and the proper absorption of minerals from food.

 

2. Improper eliminations which would lead to a build up of toxins

within the body was sited in 6 cases

3. In four cases spinal misalignment especially in the lower spine

which could interfere with the proper nerve impulses action.

 

4. Poor assimilations were mentioned as a contributing factor in

three cases.

 

 

Treatment

1.Ten people received dietary advice with the emphasis on alkaline

reacting foods ¡V raw vegetables such as carrots, cabbage,

watercress, celery and lettuce. Served in any combination for one

meal a day. Leafy veg was recommended over the pod variety. Strongly

advised were food sources, which contained specific minerals such as

magnesium, silicon, sulphur and iodine. Avoid of red meats, fried

foods, and starches.

 

2.Nine people were recommended massage with a combination of olive

oil and peanut oil with the limbs joints and extremities receiving

special attention.

 

3. Electrotherapy was mentioned in 7 cases where there was evidence

of nerve deterioration, the wet cell was to be used to combat

this.the violet ray and the radial appliance were also mentioned.

 

4, Hydrotherapy was mentioned in 5 cases and took the form of Epsom

salt baths this was to relax the body and relieve pain.

Four people were given instructions for internal doses of atomidine

to improve glandular coordination.

 

5.Gold chloride was mentioned in 4 cases once by itself and with

bromide or bicarbonate of soda. This was to help the nervous system.

 

6.To relieve pain in the joints cayce advised packs of Epsom salts

and in two cases castor oil pack and one of glycothymoline.

 

 

7.Sedatives were mentioned in three cases in the form of aspirin,

cobra venom [to be administered by a doctor versed in this field]

and a capsule consisting of eucalyptus, rectified oil of turpentine

and benzosal.

 

8.Kaldak tonic and stimulants for eliminations were also mentioned.

 

 

9.Adjustments to the entire spinal column were suggested in four

cases.

 

Although not specifically recommended by cayce spiritual/reiki

healing has the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see

other pages on this fascinating subject.

 

 

12 Spiritual healing, Reiki, find a good healer - but someone you

feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have

negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing

one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices

are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim,

Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others.

 

Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one

of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so

many of his healings.

 

Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki is the transference of certain

energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or

even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well

outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people

can feel this energy .

 

The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful

which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit

or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a

steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its

limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite.

 

A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy

reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act

as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of

which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit

more energy than smaller wires.

 

Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going

to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is

with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or

what have you.

 

Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in

this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some

it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it

can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence

of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people

and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as

beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly

transform it

 

One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others

where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything

they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce

frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a

great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma.

See other pages on this particularly important treatment.

 

 

 

Some feedback

 

My healing was major. I have been free of flare-ups for three years

at this writing. Because of this level of healing, I know I would

not change a thing about what I did! By adhering to Cayce's

instructions as closely as possible, I hit on an effective

combination of Atomidine, Epsom Salts, and Massage Oils. Though not

easy, I consider the problems I encountered to be very minor

compared with the benefits

 

Castor Oil Packs & Ice as Needed Daily use of Castor Oil Packs has

been shown to dissolve arthritic spurs, but I used them to treat

local inflammation. Before consulting with Dr. McGarey, I kept

serious inflammation flare-ups under control the same way I had been

doing for ten years, with Castor Oil Packs. I also applied ice,

sometimes alternating the two with severe flare-ups. Ice alone is

sufficient for minor flare-ups. Only once did Cayce recommend Castor

Oil Packs for treating arthritis, but they had been extremely

helpful, so I continued with them. The worst flare-up I experienced

as part of my recovery involved my right hip, much of my pelvic area

and my lower back. The pain was excruciating with even the slightest

movement, so I only got out of bed to crawl to the bathroom. I was

unable to walk for four days. My doctor would very likely have

treated me with cortisone shots if I had called him.

 

Cayce says clearly that anti-inflammatory medications are not

helpful, and in fact make things worse. I felt cortisone shots would

prevent the flare-up from carrying out its corrective purpose. I was

right. Day and night for a week, I alternated castor oil packs with

ice, noting gradual improvement. The hip not only completely healed,

it ceased to trouble me thereafter.

 

The Edgar Cayce arthritis healing methods for me were a resounding

success. After only 6 weeks, I noticed a greatly reduced need for

toxic anti-inflammatory drugs, and soon eliminated them altogether.

Within a few weeks of my conversation with Dr. McGarey, all major

symptoms suddenly subsided. The general pain in my body and joints

was virtually gone, as were the flare-ups and swelling. I felt deep

release from pain and the aggressiveness of the illness, as if the

arthritis had been stopped and could not return unless I went back

to old habits.

Edgar Cayce's remedies gave my body a life and vigor it had not

known in more than a decade! I was continuing to heal when I

foolishly allowed parts of the program to lapse. Had I followed the

Cayce instruction of applying the full program persistently and

consistently for a period of time well beyond the cessation of

symptoms, I would today be in remission or completely cured.

Nevertheless, three years later I remain in a much improved state of

health, and completely free of the acute inflammation flare-ups by

which I was literally crippled prior to the program. I fully credit

Edgar Cayce's miraculous therapies for this dramatic and sustained

improvement. Until I applied them seriously, I deteriorated. After I

applied them, I improved rapidly. Edgar Cayce's genius gave me back

my life.

 

Fuller details can be found in Reba Ann karps book encyclopedia of

healing ISBN 0446 30981-8 which gives lots of treatments on all

manor of diseases.

 

And the Edgar cayce handbook for health by Harold reilly and Ruth

hagy brod Harold had 43 yrs working with the readings Isdn0-02601960-

4 Obtained from the cayce center ARE or the heritage store, Virginia

beach

 

Books and remedies can be obtained from

 

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Order: 1-800-284-9123

 

The Heritage Store 314 Laskin Road Virginia Beach, VA 23451 To

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For more information about the A.R.E., visit

http://www.edgarcayce.org

If you are a member of the A.R.E., you can purchase or borrow a set

of Cayce's readings by calling 1-800-333-4499 USA

Or the Edgar Cayce centre up in Durham 13 prospect terrace, new

stanley, CO Durham, England DH9 7TR 01207 237696 ask for one of the

circulating files on arthritis

 

Research from the meridian institute

Meridian Institute, 1853 Old Donation Parkway, Suite 1

Virginia Beach, VA 23454

(757) 496-6009

Ran by a team of doctors the meridian institute carried out a brief

study on a few of the cayce treatments including Arthritis, a brief

summary is here for fuller details please contact them or their

website meridianinstitute.com/

 

Seven individuals participated in a 10-day live-in

instructional/treatment program in November 1998, in which they were

taught the elements of the Edgar Cayce therapies for arthritis. One

person had rheumatoid arthritis, and six had osteoarthritis.

Rheumatoid arthritis is characterized by inflammatory changes in the

synovial membranes of the joints and the areas around the joints and

by atrophy and rarification of the bones. In osteoarthritis there is

generally no inflammation and no spreading or migratory type of

joint involvement. Rather than a loss of calcium, there is a calcium

build-up. The project explicitly did not require participants to

change their current therapies or medications. The principal

therapies included dietary changes, massage, Atomidine (an iodine

supplement), and Epsom salts baths. The participants then returned

home to continue these therapies for six months, submitting daily

logs of compliance with the protocol.

Arthritis symptoms were evaluated at the beginning of the program

and after six months. Four of the seven people returned for the six-

month follow-up in May 1999. One was unable to attend the April

session, and returned in November. Another responded to a

questionnaire by mail, and one person dropped out of the study.

Of the six participants who submitted information, three had

excellent compliance with the protocol. One felt ¡§much improved,¡¨

and two felt ¡§improved.¡¨

 

Other interesting feedback

According to Reba Ann karps book DR Charles Lucas chief of

endocrinology and metabolism at Harper grace hospitals Detroit has

reported that a diet low in animal fats will ease rheumatoid

arthritis pain.with some of his patients reporting that that pain

and stiffness nearly disappeared and swelling in joints reduced

remarkably.

Further substantiating cayce is a study done by the Department of

medicine at Wayne State University Detroit Michigan in that fat free

diets have been found to produce complete remissions in six patients

with rheumatoid arthritis.

Bee venom was mentioned by cayce and in the UK experiments have

isolated an anti-inflammatory agent within the venom. In the US it

has also been found that injecting bee venom into the painful joints

activates natural cortisone production in the bones thus relieving

the pain of arthritis.

 

Treatment of Arthritis with Rife machine

 

About Royal Raymond Rife

Royal Raymond Rife was an inventor and genius who won scientist of

the year awards twice. He started looking for a cancer cure in 1920.

By 1934 he cured 16 out of 16 (100% success) cancer patients in his

clinic, every one within 3 months. What he invented first was a

microscope that used prisms and various light types other than white

and was so powerful he could watch viruses alive and experiment on

them without destroying them in the process.

 

 

In Australia, a serious placebo (sometimes called double blind)

study was made to demonstrate the effectiveness of using audio

frequency therapy in the treatment of arthritis using a prototype of

the PET Rife-Crane unit. Behind this study is, amongst others, Geoff

Baker (B.App. Sci) who spent years of his life and millions of

dollars studying and perfecting his PET device. In order to achieve

medical approval for the sale of the PET unit in Australia, this

Placebo study was made under scientifically controlled

circumstances.

 

The Study results suggest that

„h Audio Frequency Therapy is highly effective in the treatment of

Osteo and Rheumatoid Arthritis. After 36 three-hour treatment

sessions of Audio Frequency Therapy, the net mean overall

improvement in the arthritic condition of treated volunteers

(irrespective of type of arthritis suffered) was approximately 25

percent

„h Continued reduction of pain levels under the extended treatment

sessions administered to Group C (72 three hour treatment sessions,

fig 4) suggest that the benefits of Audio Frequency Therapy are

cumulative and in proportion to the number of treatment sessions a

patient undergoes.

„h Extrapolation of the mean improvement rate of all treated

volunteers in considering the " worst case " situation suggests that

it may be possible to completely eliminate many Arthritis signs and

symptoms in any sufferer of Osteo or Rheumatoid Arthritis in less

than twelve months with an AFTU treatment program of three, three

hour sessions per week.

„h Frequency Therapy may relieve all arthritis symptoms permanently.

This may be possible if the underlying causative factors are also

dealt with and the patient is given time to heal. A cleansing

dietary regimen would be considered essential in all cases.

„h Audio Frequency Therapy may relieve pain, swelling and

inflammation in all arthritis affected areas, but will leave pain in

joints which have suffered major degeneration

I.e. moderate to complete breakdown of articular cartilage leaving

exposed bone.

„h No significant adverse side effects may be expected within the

short term i.e. less than 12 months (based on clinical experience)

if the above treatment protocol is adhered to and the Audio

Frequency Therapy Unit operation manual closely followed.

 

 

 

The study was initiated by a private company, BWBGELTECH PTY LTD

seeking assistance from an arthritis support organisation,

interested doctors, and a commercial laboratory.

 

Placebo study conditions were strictly adhered to, with no volunteer

being aware of whether he or she was receiving treatment. Three

treatments per week of three hours duration were administered using

thirty-four Audio Frequency Therapy Units. These pocket sized

computerised devices allowed carefully selected menus of frequency

programs to be applied to each chosen volunteer.

 

All participants were regularly monitored by self-evaluation of pain

on visual analogue scales, which complied with a standard hospital

protocol for monitoring pain in arthritis patients. Also pre and

post study HLB testing was provided by Australian Biologics Testing

Services (Sydney) for seven randomly selected volunteers from the

treated and placebo groups. Similarly, independent post-study

appraisal of each volunteer's condition by their referring General

Practitioner was requested.

 

On completion of the study, the mean value of percentage reduction

in overall pain (of the treated group was 34 percent compared with

13 percent reduction in the untreated group (The mean 13 percent

reduction of pain in the untreated volunteers was generally

attributable to the emotional benefits received by being involved in

the study. This improvement was not evidenced in the blood test

results.

Long term side effects are unknown but may be similar in nature to

TENS therapy. Continuous treatment with Audio Frequency Therapy

Units over twelve months is not recommended.

 

 

After this study was complete, Geoff Baker formed Electromed to

build and market a commercial version of the Audio Frequency Therapy

unit described here. The commercial version is called PET and it is

described on the electromed web site

 

There is a wealth of testimonies on the rife forum website which

testify to the effectiveness of this treatment http://www.rife.de/

 

 

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Thank you Raffi,

how do you use the infra red heat?

 

--- doctorraffi <doctorraffi wrote:

 

> Arthritis in my opinion needs to b evaluated first,

> & to be diagnosed

> later on categorized in chinese medicine.''this is

> if clinically the

> patient needs to be treated''otherwise for home

> remedies,I would also

> suggest fresh ginger root,sliced and located on the

> joints,with 10-15

> min.infrared heat,would help relief the pain and the

> inflamation.also

> u can boil the ginger root,make a decoction out of

> it and use it with

> bandages to soak the joints for 15 min/day.also the

> sliced gingers

> could help the patient if they were located on

> ''huato jiaji''points

> along the spine.guasha would be of help to...

> Raffi G

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi dr. raffi,

May i impose on your wisdom with a question on MS. I

think it is muliple sclerosis. my sister-in-law who is

50 something has it. she is mobile without wheelchair

but her legs tire easily, also there is some problems

with her hands. any thoughts?

Thank you,

Rick

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> Arthritis in my opinion needs to b evaluated first,

> & to be diagnosed

> later on categorized in chinese medicine.''this is

> if clinically the

> patient needs to be treated''otherwise for home

> remedies,I would also

> suggest fresh ginger root,sliced and located on the

> joints,with 10-15

> min.infrared heat,would help relief the pain and the

> inflamation.also

> u can boil the ginger root,make a decoction out of

> it and use it with

> bandages to soak the joints for 15 min/day.also the

> sliced gingers

> could help the patient if they were located on

> ''huato jiaji''points

> along the spine.guasha would be of help to...

> Raffi G

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try devil's claw tea.

 

 

 

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Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] arthritis

 

 

> Thank you Raffi,

> how do you use the infra red heat?

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> --- doctorraffi <doctorraffi wrote:

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>> Arthritis in my opinion needs to b evaluated first,

>> & to be diagnosed

>> later on categorized in chinese medicine.''this is

>> if clinically the

>> patient needs to be treated''otherwise for home

>> remedies,I would also

>> suggest fresh ginger root,sliced and located on the

>> joints,with 10-15

>> min.infrared heat,would help relief the pain and the

>> inflamation.also

>> u can boil the ginger root,make a decoction out of

>> it and use it with

>> bandages to soak the joints for 15 min/day.also the

>> sliced gingers

>> could help the patient if they were located on

>> ''huato jiaji''points

>> along the spine.guasha would be of help to...

>> Raffi G

>>

>>

>>

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It all depends on what type of arthritis a person has because treatment is

different.

Prior to the discovery of prednisone, physicians believed arthritis was caused

by a bacterial or viral infections. Then, prednisone was considered a cure. Of

course, eventually they found that prednisone did horrible things to the body

and that the arthritis was not cured. Prednisone was the turning point in the

so-called autoimmune diseases. After that physicians, researches decide to

destroy the immune system instead of building it up like is done for other

diseases. They want you to believe that your body has suddenly become psychotic

instead of some microorganism causing the problem.

I am referring to conditions like SLE, RA, scleroderma, Reiter's, ankylosing

spondylitis etc...

Based on the that theory is the reason not to take echinacea or any immune

boosting produuct.

Fortunately, there are physicians who believe the immune system needs to be

boosted.

HTH

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hello, i am new to the group, my main purpose is to help others as well as my

self in this journey through life. I have Rheumetoid Arthritis and am currently

on embrel injections for treatment. THough i have suffered no ill side affects

i do not wish to be on this forever, should i ever be without medical insurance

I would never be able to afford it. the cost without coverage is over $2,000.

In the past i was on some really nasty medications as my Doctor struggled to

get it under control, there was so much swelling that I had to be put on

prednisone for a signifigant ammount of time, i was also on

Methotrxate,plaquanil,and Izonozide(which is suppose to decrease the chances of

me contracting T.B.) the medication that i am on now keeps my syptoms

completely non-existant so i have been able to almost forget i have the

disease. any advice would be greatly appreciated.

sincerely,

melisa

 

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It all depends on what type of arthritis a person has because treatment is

different.

Prior to the discovery of prednisone, physicians believed arthritis was caused

by a bacterial or viral infections. Then, prednisone was considered a cure. Of

course, eventually they found that prednisone did horrible things to the body

and that the arthritis was not cured. Prednisone was the turning point in the

so-called autoimmune diseases. After that physicians, researches decide to

destroy the immune system instead of building it up like is done for other

diseases. They want you to believe that your body has suddenly become psychotic

instead of some microorganism causing the problem.

I am referring to conditions like SLE, RA, scleroderma, Reiter's, ankylosing

spondylitis etc...

Based on the that theory is the reason not to take echinacea or any immune

boosting produuct.

Fortunately, there are physicians who believe the immune system needs to be

boosted.

HTH

Denise

 

www.Jmichaelstyle.com

 

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I know this may sound trite---but drink more water-if you have a local that

sells manatec ( i think thats how you spell it) then buy some products-eat less

meat- little or no sugar, cleanse the liver-see a nutritionist and stay away

from tea and coffee. also tobacco is a no no. I also have arthritis and have

been doing a few things to change my diet and i am much better.( in just 1 week)

If you are serious and your problem sounds bad then you must readjust your

thinking and change how you look at your life style otherwise you will get far

worse. I know it's hard but once you get use to the change then you'll wonder

why you ever ate the things you did. if you see a nutritionist also as you may

be lacking minerals that will aid in your recovery. also gentle exercise- get

the circulation going-if you don't take this all seriously you run the risk of

becoming a cripple with little quality to life.

Eandrew T <eandrewt2000 wrote: Wondering if anyone has some

natural cures/relief for sore joints in my fingers and hip. I have been taking

Glucosamine/Chrondroitin/MSM for a long time without much help.

 

 

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Massage with olive oil or Sesame oil, it will help. Edgar Cayce says that.

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