restless leg syndrome

March 6, 2007

potassium and magnesium before bedtime. Works for me

every time.

Jenny Kernan

--- williamandkandyce <williamandkandyce

wrote:

> Does any one out their have any ideas or natrual

> remedies on restless legs syndrome?

>

March 6, 2007

Funny you should ask now!

Just a few weeks ago an elderly Reflexology client

of mine asked me to Google this condition.

I spent a few hours on it and the results are below..

What worked for my client:

One of the remedies was based on Essential Oils.

It is a mix of Lavender, Rosemary and Ginger.

I did not have ginger at hand but I did put some of the

other 2 in some mixing oil and told her to apply it to

the base of her spine, as suggested. It works!

She sleeps well when she uses it and wakes in the

middle of the night if she forgets.

She thinks I am a miracle worker. (preening smugly).

I told her to give praise to Google, from which all such blessings flow.

Restless leg syndrome research

Here are the results of Googling RLS.

The pharmaceutical drugs for it do not work in the long term

and may be damaging for heart valves as well.

They are the same drugs used for Parkinson's disease.

Don't even go there.

There are quite a few alternative remedies that all work for

some people.

One home remedy was put a piece of ordinary soap under

the bottom sheet by the feet. Nobody knows why it works

but many people swear by it.

Quinine, even just Schweppes Tonic water, was mentioned

by some people.

It may cause heart irregularities if you take too much.

Since M. has always needed large amounts of calcium and magnesium,

I'd start there. She may have overdone the calcium and need more

magnesium, or she is not absorbing minerals like she used to.

Could she be anaemic? Iron and/or Potassium deficiency

can also be a factor. There is a healing clay called Pascalite that is rich

in both iron and magnesium. You can drink it in water and it is not bad

at all. It has many health properties. Find it at http://pascalite.com

One of the remedies advertised for RLS was ALLCALM, and it is just

an extra potent form of magnesium citrate.

Here are other hints from alternative websites, they all claim to work:

A product called Night Time Leg Calm. It is essential oils of Lavender,

Rosemary and Ginger blended in grape seed oil, applied to the base of

the spine before bedtime. >snip

Leg Calm from Native Remedies contains the following ingredients.

They could be tried separately as well.

The health food store probably has them.

Astragalus membranaceous is a well-known revitalizing herb used for centuries in

traditional . Astragalus balances and improves functioning of

all the body's organ systems through its adaptogenic and tonic properties. This

herb also boosts circulation and assists absorption of iron from food. This is

important for sufferers of RLS as iron-deficiency anemia has been implicated in

this condition.

Ruscus acluteatus is also known as Butcher's Broom and is used extensively in

Europe to improve circulation and relieve the pain and discomfort associated

with restless leg syndrome. Also useful in treatment of constipation and water

retention, circulatory disorders including hemorrhoids and varicose veins and as

a bladder and kidney tonic.

Aesculus hippocastum (Horse Chestnut) helps promote healthy blood circulation

throughout the body, including the legs and can relieve Periodic Limb Movement

and RLS by keeping the blood flowing smoothly even during rest and sleep.

Rhus tox. (30c) is a homeopathic remedy for restless leg syndrome and is very

effective in relieving the overwhelming desire to constantly move, change

position or even get up and walk around at night. Rhus tox. is also useful for

treating stiffness, snoring and night-time anxiety.

Zinc met. (30C) is another homeopathic treatment for RLS and is used effectively

for improving immune system functioning and aiding absorption of minerals to

prevent deficiencies. Zinc met.also acts as a calming and psychologically

soothing ingredient for people whose anxiety and excess energy manifest as

periodic limb movement and night-time restlessness.

Mag. phos. (6C) is one of the 12 Biochemic Tissue Salts and is very useful inthe

treatment of spasms, muscle contractions and twitching and is an excellent aid

in preventing involuntary limb movement. Mag. phos. also addresses deficiency of

Magnesium which is known to be associated with Restless Leg Syndrome and

Periodic Limb Movement.

Another ad that promised relief was a natural sleep remedy that had magnesium,

melatonin, and some calming herbs like Valerian, Chamomile and Passion flower.

And finally, a certain Marie claims to have found The Answer after

curing herself, and is willing to share it with you for $29.95 US.

I hope some of this helps!

Ien in the Kootenays

http://freegreenliving.com

March 6, 2007

Risking sounding like a broken record (or scratched CD, as the case may be),

homeopathy

addresses restless leg syndrome. We who work with homeopathic medicine view RLS

as a

part of a constitutional picture. That is, there are often other signs and

symptoms

(physically, emotionally, mentally) which are also calling out for healing:

spinal sensitiviity,

twitching in the body, aggravation from wine or other stimulants, etc., etc.

Zincum is one of

several remedies which could be appropriate for this condition. A thorough case

taking by a

professional homeopath is recommended as a possible course of action for you.

Cathleen Springer, C.Hom

, " williamandkandyce "

<williamandkandyce

wrote:

>

> Does any one out their have any ideas or natrual remedies on restless legs

syndrome?

>

March 7, 2007

Hi,

If you have restless leg syndrome, you can take homoeo medicine Zincum Met -

200c - 3 drops daily during bed time till relief is achieved. While the

medicine is on no item of sour should be taken.

Dr Subrata Das, Homoeo Consultant

> " williamandkandyce " <williamandkandyce

>

> restless leg syndrome

>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:02:07 -0000

>

>Does any one out their have any ideas or natrual remedies on restless legs

>syndrome?

>

_______________

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March 7, 2007

Can you tell me where to purchase Zincum?

Thanks

williamandkandyce

--- cathleensp <cathleen wrote:

> Risking sounding like a broken record (or scratched

> CD, as the case may be), homeopathy

> addresses restless leg syndrome. We who work with

> homeopathic medicine view RLS as a

> part of a constitutional picture. That is, there

> are often other signs and symptoms

> (physically, emotionally, mentally) which are also

> calling out for healing: spinal sensitiviity,

> twitching in the body, aggravation from wine or

> other stimulants, etc., etc. Zincum is one of

> several remedies which could be appropriate for this

> condition. A thorough case taking by a

> professional homeopath is recommended as a possible

> course of action for you.

> Cathleen Springer, C.Hom

>

> ,

> " williamandkandyce " <williamandkandyce

> wrote:

> >

> > Does any one out their have any ideas or natrual

> remedies on restless legs syndrome?

> >

>

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March 8, 2007

There's an old wives' remedy that is supposed to work - put a bar of Ivory

soap under the fitted sheet of your bed.

Don't know how it works, but I've heard people swear by it, lol.

http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/archives/home_remedies/soap_under_the_sheets_for_\

rls_leg_cramps.asp<http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/archives/editorial/new_treatme\

nts_for_restless_legs.asp>

> > --- In

<%40>

> ,

> > " williamandkandyce " <williamandkandyce

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Does any one out their have any ideas or natrual

> > remedies on restless legs syndrome?

> .

>

--

Shana Clagg

Hormone Health Nature's Way

http://health.HormoneHealthNW/

The " Safest Products in the World " : http://www.ineways.com/shana

August 4, 2007

fiamma:

i've seen satisfactory results in tx this. my patients have presented with

a yin xu pattern, sx appearing a night, so needling during the day wasn't an

issue.

k

On 8/2/07, fiammasita <fiammasita wrote:

>

> I've had an inquiry regarding restless leg syndrome, which I have some

> questions about

> myself! Has anyone treated this? I need to do some research, but one of my

> main concerns

> (besides understand the mechanism leading to the condition) is needling

> someone who feels

> the need to move their legs. Any thoughts?

>

> Thank you!

> Fiamma

>

--

Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

Oriental Medicine

Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

Asheville Center For

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

kbartlett

www.AcupunctureAsheville.com

August 4, 2007

interesting; i will have to see when my patient experiences her RLS.

thanks kath

Chinese Medicine , " "

wrote:

>

> fiamma:

>

> i've seen satisfactory results in tx this. my patients have presented with

> a yin xu pattern, sx appearing a night, so needling during the day wasn't an

> issue.

>

> k

>

> On 8/2/07, fiammasita <fiammasita wrote:

> >

> > I've had an inquiry regarding restless leg syndrome, which I have some

> > questions about

> > myself! Has anyone treated this? I need to do some research, but one of my

> > main concerns

> > (besides understand the mechanism leading to the condition) is needling

> > someone who feels

> > the need to move their legs. Any thoughts?

> >

> > Thank you!

> > Fiamma

> >

>

> --

> Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

> Oriental Medicine

> Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

>

> Asheville Center For

> 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

> Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

> kbartlett

> www.AcupunctureAsheville.com

>

October 11, 2008

Hi Violet,A deficiency is magnesium is probably one of the causes of your restless leg syndrome. www.nativeremedies.com has a supplement called Triple Complex Nerve Tonic which consists mostly of magnesium. It is subliminal and works wonderfully. I am going to ask if you by chance have Fibromyalgia? Many times these two conditions go hand-in-hand. You can also take the following that will help both the restless leg and Fibromyalgia if you should have that:California poppy with corydalis - Take as directed. This stops muscle spasms, relieves pain, and induces sleep.Kava - 60 to 120 mg daily. Relaxes skeletal muscles, sedates the central nervous system.Passionflower - Tea bags. 1 cup 2 to 3 hours before bedtime. Induces muscle relaxation and sleepiness.Valerian - Valepotriate tablets. Take 50 to 100 mg on an empty stomach 1 hour before bedtime. Sedates muscles, reduces time to fall asleep.Also, you may want to eliminate caffeine.Hope this helps.Hugs,oleander soup , "violet1946" <sweetviolets01 wrote:>> > I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine,> but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for my> restless leg problem, I postponed him for a month.> Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this?> Thanks for all your help.> > violet>

October 11, 2008

Please don't think I'm nuts! I got this from the book, Peoples Pharmacy, and it works. The authors said they were reluctant to include it because they could see no possible rationale for how it could work-----a bar of soap - can't be Irish Spring or Dove - between the top and bottom sheets of your bed. I've been doing this for several months as have 3 of my friends. ANd we all have had total or nearly total relief. So give it a try - it costs nothing and no side effects.

Corky

-

violet1946

oleander soup

Saturday, October 11, 2008 10:21 AM

Restless Leg Syndrome

I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine,but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for myrestless leg problem, I postponed him for a month.Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this?Thanks for all your help.violet

October 11, 2008

How cool is that! Does it sort out the sleep apnoea too?

My contribution was tryptophan which sometimes actually cures it.

Sandyk R. L-tryptophan in the treatment of restless legs syndrome. Am. J. Psychiat. 143(4):554-555, 1986.

Several studies show that supplementation with 2 grams per day of tryptophan totally cures restless legs syndrome.

Iron - by restoring endogenous ferritin levels to normal

O¢Keefe, S. T., et al. Iron status and restless legs syndrome in the elderly. Age and Ageing. 23(5):200-203, 1994. (Sorry about the "elderly" word in that sentence - we are all young at heart!)

Folic acid - up to 5mgs per day

Nicotinic acid form of Vit B3

Vit E 200-400 IU per day

Maracuja

--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Corky or Bill Rieder <bcrieder wrote:

Corky or Bill Rieder <bcriederRe: Restless Leg Syndromeoleander soup Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:18 AM

Please don't think I'm nuts! I got this from the book, Peoples Pharmacy, and it works. The authors said they were reluctant to include it because they could see no possible rationale for how it could work-----a bar of soap - can't be Irish Spring or Dove - between the top and bottom sheets of your bed.

..

October 11, 2008

If one is overweight, losing weight is very beneficial for curing sleep

apnea. We are on our way out the door and won't be back until tomorrow.

I will post further then.

Hugs,

oleander soup , Maracuja <howdurdago wrote:

>

> How cool is that! Does it sort out the sleep apnoea too?

>

> My contribution was tryptophan which sometimes actually cures it.

> Sandyk R. L-tryptophan in the treatment of restless legs syndrome.

Am.. J. Psychiat. 143(4):554-555, 1986.

> Several studies show that supplementation with 2 grams per day of

tryptophan totally cures restless legs syndrome.

>

> Iron - by restoring endogenous ferritin levels to normal

> O¢Keefe, S. T., et al. Iron status and restless legs syndrome in

the elderly. Age and Ageing. 23(5):200-203, 1994. (Sorry about the

" elderly " word in that sentence - we are all young at heart!)

>

> Folic acid - up to 5mgs per day

> Nicotinic acid form of Vit B3

> Vit E 200-400 IU per day

> Maracuja

>

> --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Corky or Bill Rieder bcrieder wrote:

>

> Corky or Bill Rieder bcrieder

> Re: Restless Leg Syndrome

> oleander soup

> Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:18 AM

>

Please don't think I'm nuts! I got this from the book, Peoples

Pharmacy, and it works. The authors said they were reluctant to include

it because they could see no possible rationale for how it could

work-----a bar of soap - can't be Irish Spring or Dove - between the top

and bottom sheets of your bed.

> ..

>

October 11, 2008

Calcium Orotate (use the tablets not the

capsules as there must be a coating in order for it to get assimilated

correctly) and Ancient Minerals Magnesium Oil. The Ancient Minerals is great

for all types of pain also. I am amazed by this product. It also

helps with sleep. My elbow was hurting the other evening and I rubbed

just a bit on it and it stopped hurting almost immediately. Good stuff

and great for arthritis, muscle and joint aches and pain.

Calcium is the most absorbable form of calcium (it also contains magnesium

orotate) and works for all forms of calcium deficiency.

http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/products/ancient-minerals-pure-magnesium-oil.html

Be Well

Loretta

---

In oleander soup , " violet1946 " <sweetviolets01

wrote:

>

> I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine,

> but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for my

> restless leg problem, I postponed him for a month.

> Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this?

> Thanks for all your help.

>

> violet

>

October 11, 2008

oleander soup , " violet1946 " <sweetviolets01

wrote:

>

> I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine,

> but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for my

> restless leg problem, I postponed him for a month.

> Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this?

> Thanks for all your help.

>

> violet

Thanks for all the advice on the restless leg, I will check

it all out & yes Mae I have Fibromylagia also & many

other ailments, and yes I am a senior now.....LOL

Stay healthy!!

>

October 11, 2008

Strong B Complex. First noted in WWI after solders were on field rations for months at a time, it is a B vitamin deficiency symptom. I can't remember if it was B5 or B6. So, get a strong B Complex and you'll be covered.Dr. Goebel--- On Sat, 10/11/08, violet1946 <sweetviolets01 wrote:violet1946 <sweetviolets01 Restless Leg Syndromeoleander soup Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 10:21 AM

I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine,

but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for my

restless leg problem, I postponed him for a month.

Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this?

Thanks for all your help.

violet

October 13, 2008

Violet, Let me give you the remedies for Fibromyalgia found in The Best Years in Life Home Remedies . FibromyalgiaPay special attention to your diet. No sugars, no processed foods, no fast foods, no sweeteners. This all add to the problem and you may notice a big difference just by following the proper diet. Also, you will find colloidal silver and colloidal gold to be most helpful. I would like to emphasize that, contrary what doctors will tell you, you do not have to suffer with this the rest of your life. By following a healthy lifestyle and taking the proper supplements you can can be free of this condition.Hugs,oleander soup , "violet1946" <sweetviolets01 wrote:>> oleander soup , "violet1946" sweetviolets01@ > wrote:> >> > > > I have sleep apena and I am now using a pap machine,> > but the dr. almost insitsed that I get meds for my> > restless leg problem, I postponed him for a month.> > Does anyone have or know any natural cures for this?> > Thanks for all your help.> > > > violet> > > Thanks for all the advice on the restless leg, I will check > it all out & yes Mae I have Fibromylagia also & many> other ailments, and yes I am a senior now.....LOL> Stay healthy!!> >>

August 19, 2009

The few cases I have seen all resolved by nourishing yin, clearing deficiency

heat, and calming the spirit.

- Bill Schoenbart

Chinese Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger,

PH.D. " <angelapfa wrote:

>

> I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and

> my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of

> wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5

> treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and

> Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other

> practitioners are doing? Thanks.

>

> Regards,

> Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

>

> angelapfa

>

> www.InnerhealthSalem.com

>

> Phone: 503 364 3022

> -

> " Robert Chu " <chusauli

> Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:23 PM

> TCM -

>

> Dear colleague,

>

> I will be in NYC teaching Saturday and Sunday, September 12 & 13, 2009!

>

> I hope to see you there!

>

> In NYC! Yi Jing Acupuncture and Clinical for Difficult

> Cases September 12- 13, 2009

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>

> Students and practitioners will be taught the most essential points to use

> clinically for Neuromusculoskeletal and Internal Medicine problems.

>

> Point location and demonstration will be a part of this class.

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>

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>

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>

> · Speed your clinical diagnosis utilizing the classical acupuncture

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> · Discover proven clinical procedures for pain and internal medicine

> problems

> · Improve your acupuncture skills

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> non-political organization devoted to the preservation, standardization,

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> In July of 2004, Dr. Chu was the Acupuncturist to Olympic athletes at the

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> Acupuncture of Chen Chao.

>

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> chusauli

>

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>

> --

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> chusauli

>

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>

August 20, 2009

Each case of RLS we have seen at our clinic had as a commonality multiple

pharmaceuticals. Each had no history of RLS (other than during growth spurts as

children) with development of the condition only after being on three or more

meds for some time.

Mark Z

Chinese Medicine , " bill_schoenbart "

<plantmed2 wrote:

>

> The few cases I have seen all resolved by nourishing yin, clearing deficiency

heat, and calming the spirit.

>

> - Bill Schoenbart

>

> Chinese Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger,

PH.D. " <angelapfa@> wrote:

> >

> > I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and

> > my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of

> > wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5

> > treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and

> > Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other

> > practitioners are doing? Thanks.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

> >

> > angelapfa@

> >

> > www.InnerhealthSalem.com

> >

> > Phone: 503 364 3022

> > -

> > " Robert Chu " <chusauli@>

> > Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:23 PM

> > TCM -

> >

> > Dear colleague,

> >

> > I will be in NYC teaching Saturday and Sunday, September 12 & 13, 2009!

> >

> > I hope to see you there!

> >

> > In NYC! Yi Jing Acupuncture and Clinical for Difficult

> > Cases September 12- 13, 2009

> >

> > Saturday-Sunday, September 12- 13, 2009, 9 am - 5:30 pm, early registration

> > on Saturday, September 12, 2009 for walk in registration 8:30 am - 9:00 am

> >

> > 15 Category One CA CEU's approved (7.5 CEU's per day)

> >

> > These classes are open to Acupuncturists of all levels!

> >

> > Day one: Yi Jing Acupuncture as taught by Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME

> >

> > Learn Yi Jing Acupuncture system, with the proper principles and concepts,

> > that made Dr. Chen Chao, founder of the Yi Jing Yin Yang Balance Method, one

> > of Taiwan's greatest Acupuncturists in this generation.

> >

> > Students and practitioners will be taught the most essential points to use

> > clinically for Neuromusculoskeletal and Internal Medicine problems.

> >

> > Point location and demonstration will be a part of this class.

> >

> > Day Two: Clinical for Difficult Cases

> >

> > This lecture will focus on point prescriptions from Master Tung, Yi Jing

> > Acupuncture and Optimal Acupuncture systems, and herbals for Difficult cases

> > seen in the clinic. We will discuss multiple treatment strategies and

> > herbal Rx's for these types of cases.

> >

> > Increase your Clinical Effectiveness!

> >

> > · Speed your clinical diagnosis utilizing the classical acupuncture

> > methods and get instantaneous results

> > · Expand your range of treatment options

> > · Enhance your treatments in the clinic

> > · Improve your practice with Yi Jing Acupuncture Single needle, 3/6, and

> > circuit methods

> > · Learn it all clearly by a native English speaker who bridges East and

> > West

> > · Discover proven clinical procedures for pain and internal medicine

> > problems

> > · Improve your acupuncture skills

> > · Open to Acupuncturists of all levels

> >

> > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME specializes in Master Tung, Yi Jing and Optimal

> > Acupuncture for treating pain, Neuromusculoskeletal disorders, and internal

> > medicine problems. An exciting and dynamic speaker, has been studying the

> > Martial and Chinese healing arts since childhood. In mid 2005, he founded

> > ITARA (International Tung's Acupuncture Research Association), a

> > non-political organization devoted to the preservation, standardization,

> > education, and research of Tung's Acupuncture, offering classes for the

> > spread and advancement of Classical Acupuncture systems.

> > In July of 2004, Dr. Chu was the Acupuncturist to Olympic athletes at the

> > Olympic Trials held in Sacramento, CA. He has lectured throughout the United

> > States, Canada and Europe on Master Tung's Acupuncture and the Yi Jing

> > Acupuncture of Chen Chao.

> >

> > To Register, please call (626) 487 -1815 or email chusauli@

> >

> > $325/2 days, students $250/2 days, $25 discount for early registration by

> > August 15, 2009, No refunds. Seating is limited!

> >

> > Location: 1 Union Square West, Suite 715, New York, NY 10003

> >

> > --

> > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME

> > chusauli@

> >

> > See my webpages at: www.chusaulei.com

> >

> > --

> > Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME

> > chusauli@

> >

> > See my webpages at: www.chusaulei.com

> >

August 20, 2009

I see this a lot: Herbs first, acupuncture as adjunct. Treat for the pattern.

Like Bill, often see Yin def heat and unsettled shen, sometimes a base of yang

def. Resolution is not too difficult.

Hope that helps,

Hugo

________________________________

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.middlemedicine.org

________________________________

bill_schoenbart <plantmed2

Chinese Medicine

Wednesday, 19 August, 2009 17:45:21

Re: Restless leg syndrome

The few cases I have seen all resolved by nourishing yin, clearing deficiency

heat, and calming the spirit.

- Bill Schoenbart

Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger,

PH.D. " <angelapfa@. ..> wrote:

>

> I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and

> my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of

> wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5

> treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and

> Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other

> practitioners are doing? Thanks.

>

> Regards,

> Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

>

> angelapfa@.. .

>

> www.InnerhealthSale m.com

>

> Phone: 503 364 3022

> -

> " Robert Chu " <chusauli@.. .>

> Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:23 PM

> TCM -

>

> Dear colleague,

>

> I will be in NYC teaching Saturday and Sunday, September 12 & 13, 2009!

>

> I hope to see you there!

>

> In NYC! Yi Jing Acupuncture and Clinical for Difficult

> Cases September 12- 13, 2009

>

> Saturday-Sunday, September 12- 13, 2009, 9 am - 5:30 pm, early registration

> on Saturday, September 12, 2009 for walk in registration 8:30 am - 9:00 am

>

> 15 Category One CA CEU's approved (7.5 CEU's per day)

>

> These classes are open to Acupuncturists of all levels!

>

> Day one: Yi Jing Acupuncture as taught by Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME

>

> Learn Yi Jing Acupuncture system, with the proper principles and concepts,

> that made Dr. Chen Chao, founder of the Yi Jing Yin Yang Balance Method, one

> of Taiwan's greatest Acupuncturists in this generation.

>

> Students and practitioners will be taught the most essential points to use

> clinically for Neuromusculoskeleta l and Internal Medicine problems.

>

> Point location and demonstration will be a part of this class.

>

> Day Two: Clinical for Difficult Cases

>

> This lecture will focus on point prescriptions from Master Tung, Yi Jing

> Acupuncture and Optimal Acupuncture systems, and herbals for Difficult cases

> seen in the clinic. We will discuss multiple treatment strategies and

> herbal Rx's for these types of cases.

>

> Increase your Clinical Effectiveness!

>

> · Speed your clinical diagnosis utilizing the classical acupuncture

> methods and get instantaneous results

> · Expand your range of treatment options

> · Enhance your treatments in the clinic

> · Improve your practice with Yi Jing Acupuncture Single needle, 3/6, and

> circuit methods

> · Learn it all clearly by a native English speaker who bridges East and

> West

> · Discover proven clinical procedures for pain and internal medicine

> problems

> · Improve your acupuncture skills

> · Open to Acupuncturists of all levels

>

> Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME specializes in Master Tung, Yi Jing and Optimal

> Acupuncture for treating pain, Neuromusculoskeleta l disorders, and internal

> medicine problems. An exciting and dynamic speaker, has been studying the

> Martial and Chinese healing arts since childhood. In mid 2005, he founded

> ITARA (International Tung's Acupuncture Research Association) , a

> non-political organization devoted to the preservation, standardization,

> education, and research of Tung's Acupuncture, offering classes for the

> spread and advancement of Classical Acupuncture systems.

> In July of 2004, Dr. Chu was the Acupuncturist to Olympic athletes at the

> Olympic Trials held in Sacramento, CA. He has lectured throughout the United

> States, Canada and Europe on Master Tung's Acupuncture and the Yi Jing

> Acupuncture of Chen Chao.

>

> To Register, please call (626) 487 -1815 or email chusauli

>

> $325/2 days, students $250/2 days, $25 discount for early registration by

> August 15, 2009, No refunds. Seating is limited!

>

> Location: 1 Union Square West, Suite 715, New York, NY 10003

>

> --

> Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME

> chusauli

>

> See my webpages at: www.chusaulei. com

>

> --

> Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME

> chusauli

>

> See my webpages at: www.chusaulei. com

>

August 22, 2009

Dear Angela

you may get a very good result using

auricular points :Valium , aggressive , shen ,pineal gland

body deep needing in the calf ( UB57 ,58) or trigger point therapy in the calf

muscles .

please let me know how was your results .

Regards.

Dr.Fadaie

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote:

Hugo Ramiro <subincor

Re: Re: Restless leg syndrome

Chinese Medicine

Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:23 AM

I see this a lot: Herbs first, acupuncture as adjunct. Treat for the pattern.

Like Bill, often see Yin def heat and unsettled shen, sometimes a base of yang

def. Resolution is not too difficult.

Hope that helps,

Hugo

____________ _________ _________ __

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedici ne.wordpress. com

http://www.middleme dicine.org

____________ _________ _________ __

bill_schoenbart <plantmed2 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Wednesday, 19 August, 2009 17:45:21

Re: Restless leg syndrome

The few cases I have seen all resolved by nourishing yin, clearing deficiency

heat, and calming the spirit.

- Bill Schoenbart

Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger,

PH.D. " <angelapfa@. ..> wrote:

>

> I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and

> my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of

> wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5

> treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and

> Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other

> practitioners are doing? Thanks.

>

> Regards,

> Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

>

> angelapfa@.. .

>

> www.InnerhealthSale m.com

>

> Phone: 503 364 3022

> -

> " Robert Chu " <chusauli@.. .>

> Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:23 PM

> TCM -

>

> Dear colleague,

>

> I will be in NYC teaching Saturday and Sunday, September 12 & 13, 2009!

>

> I hope to see you there!

>

> In NYC! Yi Jing Acupuncture and Clinical for Difficult

> Cases September 12- 13, 2009

>

> Saturday-Sunday, September 12- 13, 2009, 9 am - 5:30 pm, early registration

> on Saturday, September 12, 2009 for walk in registration 8:30 am - 9:00 am

>

> 15 Category One CA CEU's approved (7.5 CEU's per day)

>

> These classes are open to Acupuncturists of all levels!

>

> Day one: Yi Jing Acupuncture as taught by Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME

>

> Learn Yi Jing Acupuncture system, with the proper principles and concepts,

> that made Dr. Chen Chao, founder of the Yi Jing Yin Yang Balance Method, one

> of Taiwan's greatest Acupuncturists in this generation.

>

> Students and practitioners will be taught the most essential points to use

> clinically for Neuromusculoskeleta l and Internal Medicine problems.

>

> Point location and demonstration will be a part of this class.

>

> Day Two: Clinical for Difficult Cases

>

> This lecture will focus on point prescriptions from Master Tung, Yi Jing

> Acupuncture and Optimal Acupuncture systems, and herbals for Difficult cases

> seen in the clinic. We will discuss multiple treatment strategies and

> herbal Rx's for these types of cases.

>

> Increase your Clinical Effectiveness!

>

> · Speed your clinical diagnosis utilizing the classical acupuncture

> methods and get instantaneous results

> · Expand your range of treatment options

> · Enhance your treatments in the clinic

> · Improve your practice with Yi Jing Acupuncture Single needle, 3/6, and

> circuit methods

> · Learn it all clearly by a native English speaker who bridges East and

> West

> · Discover proven clinical procedures for pain and internal medicine

> problems

> · Improve your acupuncture skills

> · Open to Acupuncturists of all levels

>

> Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac., QME specializes in Master Tung, Yi Jing and Optimal

> Acupuncture for treating pain, Neuromusculoskeleta l disorders, and internal

> medicine problems. An exciting and dynamic speaker, has been studying the

> Martial and Chinese healing arts since childhood. In mid 2005, he founded

> ITARA (International Tung's Acupuncture Research Association) , a

> non-political organization devoted to the preservation, standardization,

> education, and research of Tung's Acupuncture, offering classes for the

> spread and advancement of Classical Acupuncture systems.

> In July of 2004, Dr. Chu was the Acupuncturist to Olympic athletes at the

> Olympic Trials held in Sacramento, CA. He has lectured throughout the United

> States, Canada and Europe on Master Tung's Acupuncture and the Yi Jing

> Acupuncture of Chen Chao.

>

> To Register, please call (626) 487 -1815 or email chusauli

>

> $325/2 days, students $250/2 days, $25 discount for early registration by

> August 15, 2009, No refunds. Seating is limited!

>

> Location: 1 Union Square West, Suite 715, New York, NY 10003

>

> --

> Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME

> chusauli

>

> See my webpages at: www.chusaulei. com

>

> --

> Robert Chu, PhD, L.Ac. QME

> chusauli

>

> See my webpages at: www.chusaulei. com

>

August 23, 2009

Chinese Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger,

PH.D. " <angelapfa wrote:

>

Hi Angela,

I had few patients who did not respond to treatments until I started treatment

for Lyme disease. I live in endemic area for LD.

You can give these patients Magnesium supplements additionally.

Magnesium deficiency is very often present in LD patients and quite severe.

Hyperreflexia, muscle twitches, tight muscle spasms are clues to this

deficiency. Magnesium is predominantly an intracellular ion, so blood level

testing is of little value.

Also, I recommend these patients walking/cardio exercise. All together, helps

with severe spasms.

> I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and

> my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of

> wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5

> treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and

> Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other

> practitioners are doing? Thanks.

>

> Regards,

> Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

>

August 24, 2009

I was in a Master Tung seminar today and several people in class

said to have the patient place a bar of Ivory Soap, no Dove no Dial, under

their bedsheet, in the area of the calves or ankles

Change the bar of soap every 10 days or so

Strange but true

--- On Sun, 8/23/09, tgaid1 <tvgaid wrote:

tgaid1 <tvgaid

Re: Restless leg syndrome

Chinese Medicine

Sunday, August 23, 2009, 2:13 PM

Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger,

PH.D. " <angelapfa@. ..> wrote:

>

Hi Angela,

I had few patients who did not respond to treatments until I started treatment

for Lyme disease. I live in endemic area for LD.

You can give these patients Magnesium supplements additionally.

Magnesium deficiency is very often present in LD patients and quite severe.

Hyperreflexia, muscle twitches, tight muscle spasms are clues to this

deficiency. Magnesium is predominantly an intracellular ion, so blood level

testing is of little value.

Also, I recommend these patients walking/cardio exercise. All together, helps

with severe spasms.

> I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately, and

> my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of

> wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5

> treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and

> Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what other

> practitioners are doing? Thanks.

>

> Regards,

> Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

>

August 24, 2009

Whats the theory behind that?

-

" Michele Kingsley " <bermudamichele

Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:35 PM

Re: Re: Restless leg syndrome

I was in a Master Tung seminar today and several people in class

said to have the patient place a bar of Ivory Soap, no Dove no Dial, under

their bedsheet, in the area of the calves or ankles

Change the bar of soap every 10 days or so

Strange but true

--- On Sun, 8/23/09, tgaid1 <tvgaid wrote:

tgaid1 <tvgaid

Re: Restless leg syndrome

Chinese Medicine

Sunday, August 23, 2009, 2:13 PM

Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " Angela

Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angelapfa@. ..> wrote:

>

Hi Angela,

I had few patients who did not respond to treatments until I started

treatment for Lyme disease. I live in endemic area for LD.

You can give these patients Magnesium supplements additionally.

Magnesium deficiency is very often present in LD patients and quite severe.

Hyperreflexia, muscle twitches, tight muscle spasms are clues to this

deficiency. Magnesium is predominantly an intracellular ion, so blood level

testing is of little value.

Also, I recommend these patients walking/cardio exercise. All together,

helps with severe spasms.

> I have been seeing a number of cases with restless leg syndrome lately,

> and

> my results are not great. Usually the clients are thin and receive a Dx of

> wind from LIV/Kin deficiency; I also tried the Tan treatment, but after 5

> treatments there is not much change. I have tried Du Huo ji shen tang and

> Tian Ma gou teng tang without much result. I just wanted to hear what

> other

> practitioners are doing? Thanks.

>

> Regards,

> Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

>

December 15, 2009

I am 68 years old , my soft muscles at the back of the leg start itching like

getting electric shock only after about 29 to 30 minutes of going to the bed at

night or during afternoon nap.The shock is not continous, it is intermittent,

not regular and is enough to disturb the sleep. Allupathic medecine GEBAPIN

works but it gives me side effect.Diabetic for 15 years but under control. Any

medicine in this stream with no side effect.

December 16, 2009

Gabapentin is know to not be a very nice drug at all, Homeopathic Hypericum

12x can help this, and Magnesium (optimum dose) taken in the mornings will

also help, however drinking 2 - 3L good quality water a day is very helpful,

including a full glass as you get into bed. This is often a type or

side-effect of sciatica and DMSO applied to the sciatic root in the spine

should help reduce overall inflammation of the nerve and thus help with pain

along any of the branches of this nerve. Are you sedentary during the day? A

" memory foam " cushion can help prevent exacerbation of sciatica.

Best,

Jane

> I am 68 years old , my soft muscles at the back of the leg start itching

> like getting electric shock only after about 29 to 30 minutes of going to

> the bed at night or during afternoon nap.The shock is not continous, it is

> intermittent, not regular and is enough to disturb the sleep. Allupathic

> medecine GEBAPIN works but it gives me side effect.Diabetic for 15 years

> but under control. Any medicine in this stream with no side effect.

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