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In a message dated 11/07/02 19:36:38 Paris, Madrid (heure d'été),

rosequartz writes:

 

 

>

> It was the new power supply for the old computer that blew the new

> system is working fine though I have not learned the ins and outs of

> windows xp yet.

 

Coincidently Gra is just setting up a new computer for a friend today and

will be wading through Windows XP yet again. I still work with '98 and won't

let the Windows new progs anywhere near the machine as I fear my brain won't

stand it.

I suggested that they place a blue lace agate on the machine to bring in some

nice calming energy and clarity of mind :-)

 

love and luck

Karen

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

My kids think I am on the computer 24/7....Actually I am only on it 20/7..got to

sleep sometime..LOL

 

Lionaire

 

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beauty of their dreams.

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Friday, July 12, 2002 5:22 AM

Re: [CrystalHW] (unknown)

 

 

A quote from my best friend, " I used to have a life, now I have a computer! "

Nancy

 

 

[Guest guest]

Here are two articles that do an excellent job of explaining more:

 

http://aaom.org/articles/laser.html

http://aaom.org/articles/carpaltunnel.html

 

-al.

 

suresh deshpande wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> Can someone let me know about use of Laser

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> using Needles to puncture ?

>

> Is it danegrous or safe to use ?

>

> Thanks

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[Guest guest]

I am from Israel so the language is different but when

I tell my friends who live in different countries what

it is I do then I use the word " practitioner " .

I don't see myself as truly a healer (although the

meaning of word in Hebrew can be " healer " ) because I

share your feeling that we are assisting the patient

to hear him/herself, but I'm still doing something and

it is me because with a different practitioner the

results will be different, at least that's how I see

things.

 

I practice the art of Chinese medicine (at least

that's my goal ), and so I feel more comfortable

with " practitioner " . But I think it's really up to you

or anyone else.

 

Hope I answered your question,

Yael

--- David Razo <ozar14 wrote:

> This is a question for all. For all of you that are

> acupuncturist and/or any other kind of health care

> practioner, how do you feel about being refer to as

> a

> " healer " or how other people in the health field

> refer

> to themselves as a " healer " ?

> For all those that refer to themselves as a

> " healer " ,

> please explain why you do. Give me you opinion. I

> would like to understand why?

> I feel that as health care practioners we only

> ASSIST

> the body to heal itself and sometimes we even

> accelerate the healing process.

> David

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey Lisa!

 

How's life in Canada so far?? I hope all is well and

happy and that you're smiling.

 

I would suggest you go to Julian Scott's website, you

can ask questions there, I always got answers from

him, he's really nice so maybe he can help. They also

have a list there of practitioners who word with

children and babies, so maybe there's someone there

that can help you, or at least give you tips- as would

Julian, his e-mail is attached there.

 

The URL: www.pediatricacupuncture.com

 

Good luck, and I will be happy to hear what he said,

Love,

Yael (Kahana, who took over your spot at the library

)

--- lisadavicioni <lisadavicioni wrote:

> Hi,

> my cousin is 5 months old and. He got bronchitis 5

> weeks and still

> has not recovered. the epf is still lingering. His

> breathing sounds

> laboured, rattling as if there is a bit of phlem. I

> have no expirence

> treating babies so if anyone has any advice or knows

> a practioner who

> secializes in pediatrics in Vancouver canada please

> let me know.

> thanks,

> Lisa

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/15/02 2:12:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ozar14

writes:

 

 

> For all those that refer to themselves as a " healer " ,

> please explain why you do. Give me you opinion. I

> would like to understand why?

> I feel that as health care practioners we only ASSIST

> the body to heal itself and sometimes we even

> accelerate the healing process.

>

 

David,

 

This is always an interesting question. I myself generally refer to myself as

a health care practitioner but my clients often refer to me as a healer. I do

not pay much attention to this anymore because the most important thing to me

is that the client gets better. I judge this by keeping in touch and doing

follow up. I am fortunate to live in a small town and see people years after

I have stopped treating them. I look to see how their lives get better. Are

they doing better in general? Have they grown and evolved? Are they taking

better care of themselves? Have the goals they set for themselves manifested

or have other but better goals evolved? Well, you get the idea. I do also

expect them to be physically healthier and practice my acupuncture from a

mostly physical perspective translating their patterns into the larger

emotional, mental and spiritual implications using their problem as a

metaphor.

 

Hope this helps. Remember that " a rose by any name is a rose. "

 

Love and Best Wishes!!!

 

Bobbi

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have found that many of the herbs are the same and

uses similar although the diagnosis and explainations

are different. Michael Tierra offers a great course

that uses TCM for diagnosis but intergrates western

and ayuvedic herbs. Peter Holmes has a book out that

gives Tcm properties for western herbs that can be

helpful in choosing herbs and also understanding the

effects of patients taking western herbal supplements

bob

--- David Razo <ozar14 wrote:

> Do any of you, acupuncturist, integrate western

> herbalism into your TCM practice/clinic?

> David

>

>

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Yes, I use both western and oriental herbal medicine in my clinic. What is

the specific thing you would like help with?

 

Bobbi

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know if there is distinction over the olive oils. Is Extra virgin

even better than regular olive oil?

 

sharon

-

mrsjoguest

Gettingwell

Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:46 PM

(unknown)

 

 

Subject:

 

 

Monounsaturated Oils (Olive Oil) & their

Cholesterol Lowering Benefits

JoAnn Guest

Aug 21, 2002 15:28 PDT

 

 

Monounsaturated fatty acids

do not have cholesterol,

 

and olive oil contains 56 to 83 percent of these acids,

also called " oleic " acids.

 

The trouble-making saturated fatty acids are found in animal fats,

such as butter and lard and hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated

vegetable oils.

 

Olive oil is the richest in monounsaturated fats,followed by Avocado

Oils.

These two oils are found to LOWER blood cholesterol.

 

A recent study found that LDL (bad) cholesterol levels were reduced

by

some seven percent by substituting olive oil for margarine-more if

the

oil is used to replace butter.

Four or five tablespoons of olive oil daily dramatically improve the

blood profiles of heart attack patients.

 

And two-thirds of a tablespoon daily lowered blood pressure.

The health aspects of olive oil are not limited to its positive

effect

in the battle against heart disease.

 

 

 

 

.

 

The University of Texas Health Science Center in Dallas also

reported

that the monounsaturated fats in olive oil dramatically lowered and

favorably altered blood cholesterol.

In tests on middle-aged people, olive oil reduced all blood

cholesterol

by 13 percent and the dangerous LDL cholesterol by an amazing---and

possible life saving -21 percent.

 

University of Kentucky researchers determined that as little as

two-thirds of a tablespoon a day-reduced blood pressure by five

systolic

points and four diastolic points.

 

Food values in 1 tablespoon of olive oil:

 

Calories----119

Vitamin E---3-30 mg

Monounsaturated fatty acids (oleic)---56-83%

Polyunsaturated unfatty acids (linoleic)---3.5-20%

Polyunsaturated fatty acids (linolenic)---0-1.5%

Saturated fatty acids---8-23.5%

 

Fats, as any nutritionist will tell you, come in three groups. These

are

saturated fats (found in meat, butter, cheese and chocolate), which

raise blood cholesterol levels;

polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats (from olives and avocadoes),

which lower cholesterol.

 

Proportions of Fats in Common Cooking Oils

Oil Monounsaturated Polyunsaturated Saturated

 

Olive 82% 8% 10%

Oleic* sunflower 81% 11% 8%

Oleic* safflower 75% 17% 8%

Avocado 74% 8% 18%

Almond 70% 21% 9%

Apricot kernel 63% 31% 6%

Peanut 60% 22% 18%

Canola

(Oleic* rapeseed) 60% 34% 6%

Sesame 46% 41% 13%

Corn 29% 54% 17%

Soy 28% 58% 14%

Sunflower 26% 66% 8%

Walnut 23% 63% 14%

Cottonseed 18% 52% 30%

Palm kernel 16% 1% 83%

Safflower 13% 79% 8%

Coconut 6% 2% 92%

Clarified butter 5% 30% 65%

 

 

JoAnn Guest

jogu-

Friendsforhea-

http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html

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" Health is not a Medical Issue "

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

 

I've read that extra virgin olive oil is far superior

to the regular olive oil. It's cold pressed and thus

retains much of its immune enhancing properties. The

regular oils are prepared by applying high temperature

which destroys much of the good nutrients. When it

comes to olive oil, I only use a high quality cold

pressed extra virgin type. Same thing with the other

good beneficial oils such as the flax seed oil, only

the cold pressed type is super nutritious and immune

enhancing. If I'm wrong, perhaps someone could

correct me here.

 

ray

 

 

--- shar2 <shar2 wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is distinction over the

> olive oils. Is Extra virgin even better than

> regular olive oil?

>

> sharon

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Ray!

 

sharon

-

Ray Boyer

Gettingwell

Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:14 PM

Re: (unknown)

 

 

Hi Sharon,

 

I've read that extra virgin olive oil is far superior

to the regular olive oil. It's cold pressed and thus

retains much of its immune enhancing properties. The

regular oils are prepared by applying high temperature

which destroys much of the good nutrients. When it

comes to olive oil, I only use a high quality cold

pressed extra virgin type. Same thing with the other

good beneficial oils such as the flax seed oil, only

the cold pressed type is super nutritious and immune

enhancing. If I'm wrong, perhaps someone could

correct me here.

 

ray

 

 

--- shar2 <shar2 wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is distinction over the

> olive oils. Is Extra virgin even better than

> regular olive oil?

>

> sharon

 

 

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 24/08/02 23:30:56 GMT Daylight Time, shar2

writes:

 

 

> Does anyone know if there is distinction over the olive oils. Is Extra

> virgin even better than regular olive oil?

>

>

 

Cold pressed extra virgin is the best you can get.

 

marianne

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ruth -

 

It is my opinion that the use of ABC codes will marginalize our profession. This is because only those professions that are not independent practitioners support the use of these codes. Please don't go in this direction.

 

The CPT codes are being reviewed to include items related to our scope of practice. It is still up to insurance policy and state by state parity laws to assure reimbursement for the use of such codes.

 

We need to be eating from the same table as the other independent practitioners - ABC codes will guarantee that we don't....

 

Will

 

Ruth

 

The alternative medicine insurance billing codes are currently being reviewed by HHS for implementation. What that means to you, consumers of alternative health care, is that we can receive reimbursement for alternative health care procedures. This is an alternative to the CPT codes currently owned by the AMA and used by any provider billing insurance. This also means that the cost/benefit ratio of services provided. With this being tracked by insurance computers, we can prove the value of our complementary services.

If you would like to help pushing the alternative codes through the bureaucratic process, you and your patients and/or friends can fax a letter to HHS - 202-347-6172. A sample is provided below.

If you would like to know more about the "ABC codes", go to www.alternativelink.com.

 

 

The Honorable Tommy Thompson

Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services

200 Independence Ave. S.W.

Washington, DC 20201

 

Support ABC code Exemption

 

Dear Mr. Thompson,

 

1) It is imperative ABC codes be adopted to accurately track the services provided by almost 3.0 million licensed healthcare workers’ services.2) Computers need codes to track costs and outcomes. Insurance companies use codes for health care services and supplies.

 

 

3) If the AMA’s codes are “the only game in town†alternative medicine can NEVER be tracked.Sincerely,MY NAME: STREET:

CITY/STATE/ZIP

PHONE Number:

 

Please feel free to call me,

 

 

CC:

Sen. Trent Lott (R - MS)

487 RUSSELL Senate Building

Washington, DC 20510

(202) 224-6253

FAX: (202) 224-2262

Senator Jeff Bingaman

703 Hart Senate Office Building

Washington DC 20510

David Riley, MD

Chair, Scientific Advisory Board

The Foundation for Integrative Healthcare

 

P.O. Box 4310

Santa Fe, NM 87502

[Guest guest]

Hi Lucas

good to know that acupuncture is alive and happening in Chile. I am from england

and am currently looking at the possibilities of praticing acupuncyure in south

america. Can you give me some information about how easy it is to practice

there. Is it widely known and accepted ? What sort of opportunities are there ?

regards

jason

-

lucasestrella

acupuncture

Friday, October 11, 2002 3:57 PM

acupuncture (unknown)

 

 

Hi friends:

 

I'm Lucas, and currently live in Chile. I just graduated from a TCM

school and I'm starting to work on my own. Nice to greet you all when

joining this group.

 

cheers,

 

Lucas

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 05:38:42AM -0000, sirona71 wrote:

> am proud to say that I've quit smoking...it's been 5 days.

>

 

Well done!

 

I quit also, and I used the online quit page to help as well, that was 3

years ago and I am still a non smoker!

 

If I can quit anyone can, so just keep NOT smoking

one day at a time, it is possible, I can prove it hehe!

 

Persian

[Guest guest]

Kim,

 

That is just so incredibly well done!!!!!!!!!! Good for you :-)

 

Lisa

 

-

sirona71

herbal remedies

Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:38 AM

[herbal remedies] (unknown)

Hi all...I guess it's time to let the cat out of the bag. I know what you are all gonna think with my asthma and all...and that's partly what prompted me to take this step. I've never mentioned it before but I smoke, or I should say **used** to smoke. Well today I am proud to say that I've quit smoking...it's been 5 days.

[Guest guest]

I'm a smoker also and I'd love to quit. Could you tell me about this online quit page?

Thanks bunches,

Sherri

[Guest guest]

Congrats KIM!!!!!!

sirona71 <kims83 wrote:

Hi all...I guess it's time to let the cat out of the bag. I know what you are all gonna think with my asthma and all...and that's partly what prompted me to take this step. I've never mentioned it before but I smoke, or I should say **used** to smoke. Well today I am proud to say that I've quit smoking...it's been 5 days.

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Congratulations and keep going! If I could do it anyone can!

 

I used to smoke 2+ packs a day. I smoked for 24 years. I now wish I had the

money and my health instead! I will be cigarette free for 5 years on

January 1, 2003 at 9:20 p.m. - yes I'm counting 'em all! I'm just now

beginning to really breathe easier.

 

When I lit my last cigarette on Jan 1, 1998 at 9:20 p.m., I coughed

continuously until about 1a.m. - at that point I knew I had to decide. Did

I want to have oxygen and live - or - another cigarette and die? I figured

it was a " duh " question and chose oxygen. It was not an easy road for me.

I went through hallucinations (everyone had a cigarette in each hand

including babies!), night sweats and unable to sleep, spasms pulling my

stomach towards my chest... the whole drill.

 

Initially my Medical Deity prescribed xanax .25mg for me but warned me they

were to be considered last ditch for use as they were highly addictive. I

decided they weren't for me after taking a total of 2 of them and sleeping

for something like 6 hours each time. With the exception of those two

pills, my stopping was cold turkey.

 

It was then that I hit on what finally helped me. I had heard that you

could keep a hard candy in your mouth to help quit. I was eating candy like

it was leaving the earth. Obviously not the answer!

 

After much trial and error I found what was the answer for me. Altoids. It

was the peppermint oil in them. The peppermint oil also seemed to ease my

breathing. I can't swear to that, but it sure seemed to be easier to

breathe with the Altoids in my mouth.

 

What I did was to substitute an Altoid for a cigarette. If the desire didn't

go away in a couple of minutes, then I kept adding Altoids till it did. I

think I topped out at 6 Altoids in my mouth at once... whew! Peppermint oil

can run a close second to cayenne if you ask me! (grin) Once I got past the

really bad stage, about a month or so for me, of quitting I started backing

down the Altoids. Today I only think of them on occasion. I eventually

helped two other people to stop long standing addictions to cigarettes using

Altoids.

 

Today I can hardly stand to be within 200 miles of a cigarette or someone

that has recently smoked one. Boy do they stink!

 

From my experience, I've pretty well figured out that my addiction was two

fold - chemical as well as behavioral. I needed something for my mouth to

be doing it seemed and my body wanted the garbage the cigarette. I guess

the Altoids helped with the behavioral changes and time fixed the chemical

addiction.

 

Good luck!!

 

Skip Taylor

Lancaster CA

 

-

" sirona71 " <kims83

<herbal remedies >

Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:38 PM

[herbal remedies] (unknown)

 

 

Hi all...I guess it's time to let the cat out of the bag. I know

what you are all gonna think with my asthma and all...and that's

partly what prompted me to take this step. I've never mentioned it

before but I smoke, or I should say **used** to smoke. Well today I

am proud to say that I've quit smoking...it's been 5 days.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Kim,

 

Congratulations! Quitting takes a lot of guts and even

more willpower so every day you haven't smoked is a

credit to your inner strength. Having just quit myself

(a month ago last Saturday), I can attest to that.

Second of all, in reference to your question about the

interaction between your period and your asthma, do

you retain water? My fiance has asthma and it always

gets bad when he retains water. That may be one reason

for the correlation.

By the way, I should probably introduce myself to the

list. My name is Lindsay and I have been studying

herbs for the better part of 11 years. Recently, I

signed up for a course in herbalism and have since

sought other people with like interests which is how I

found this list. I look forward to interacting with

everyone further and hope to contribute to the wealth

of knowledge embodied by this list.

 

-Lindsay

--- sirona71 <kims83 wrote:

> Hi all...I guess it's time to let the cat out of the

> bag. I know

> what you are all gonna think with my asthma and

> all...and that's

> partly what prompted me to take this step. I've

> never mentioned it

> before but I smoke, or I should say **used** to

> smoke. Well today I

> am proud to say that I've quit smoking...it's been 5

> days.

>

> I've always prided myself on doing things healthy.

> Except for

> occasional chicken and fish, I haven't eaten any

> other meat in about

> 12 years. I eat healthy, I take my

> vitamins...basically always

> considered myself to be actively taking part in my

> life and health.

> I know I was fooling myself. The thing is, with my

> asthma, I've been

> concentrating lately too much on what herbs to take

> to help with my

> latest bout. I've been drinking lots of water, doing

> extensive

> research on various natural remedies...all the while

> with a

> cigarette in my hand. Pathetic huh? I've gotten to

> the point of

> using my inhaler just so that I could smoke a

> cigarette. Well I

> guess my body was throwing signals at me in leaps

> and bounds, I just

> chose to ignore them.

>

> I know it's only been 5 days, but I feel this is a

> great

> accomplishment for me. If I can make it past those

> first few days, I

> can make it for the rest of my life. I really feel

> great. My asthma

> is still bugging me a little, nothing at all like it

> was last week

> though. I think I'm past the emergency room stage.

> I've also been

> taking Lobelia, which is not only good for asthma,

> but it's also a

> smoking cessation herb. Along with the Lobelia, I've

> also made

> Garlic and Acidophilus part of my daily routine.

>

> What a difference quitting has made. Not just in my

> breathing...but

> in my sense of taste, my sense of

> smell...errrmmm...good AND bad,

> lol. I've cut back drastically on the medications

> I've been taking.

>

> I did some research on the albuterol I take. My

> pharmacist once told

> me that I was addicted to the inhaler. I began

> putting it across the

> bedroom so I had to physically get up to use it, at

> which point I

> often realized that I really didn't need it, it was

> just habit. My

> pulmonary doctor told me that albuterol was NOT

> addictive. Well,

> whatever she says, but I found that the life of my

> inhaler lasted

> MUCH longer by keeping it across the room. Last

> night I read that

> another way albuterol is so addictive is because

> with each use, it

> actually DAMAGES your lungs, making you actually use

> it more and

> more frequently.

>

> One other thing I've noticed, which my pulmonary doc

> also disagrees

> with, is that my asthma is always at it's worst when

> I have my

> period. Two years ago, several months in a row, I

> was in the ER. One

> time I was there and the nurse asked me for my last

> date of my

> period, I told her that I was currently on it...then

> it dawned on

> me. EVERY time I went to the ER, every time they

> asked that

> question, my answer was always the same. The time I

> was on a

> respirator I was also on it. I remember the first

> moment I woke up,

> I asked the nurse for a tampon. I guess it's

> hormones. I dunno...has

> anybody ever heard of this?

>

> Ok, now I'm starting to ramble..I'm getting tired

> from the melatonin

> I took. My sleep habits are all out of whack, both

> from the quitting

> thing plus I worked odd hours this weekend.

>

> Kim

> 5 days, 37 minutes and 13 seconds smoke free.

>

> 126 cigarettes not smoked.

> $29.69 and 23 hours of your life saved.

>

> Your quit date: 10/26/2002

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Welcome Lindsay!

I think you'll like this group... there is alot of knowledge here and we all try to help each other and share with all... Please check out the archives... there is alot of info there.

Suzi

"L. Keilers" <lvkeilers wrote:

Kim, Congratulations! Quitting takes a lot of guts and evenmore willpower so every day you haven't smoked is acredit to your inner strength. Having just quit myself(a month ago last Saturday), I can attest to that.Second of all, in reference to your question about theinteraction between your period and your asthma, doyou retain water? My fiance has asthma and it alwaysgets bad when he retains water. That may be one reasonfor the correlation.By the way, I should probably introduce myself to thelist. My name is Lindsay and I have been studyingherbs for the better part of 11 years. Recently, Isigned up for a course in herbalism and have sincesought other people with like interests which is how Ifound this list. I look forward to interacting witheveryone further and hope to contribute to the wealthof knowledge embodied by this list.-Lindsay--- sirona71 wrote:> Hi all...I guess it's time to let the cat out of the> bag. I know > what you are all gonna think with my asthma and> all...and that's > partly what prompted me to take this step. I've> never mentioned it > before but I smoke, or I should say **used** to> smoke. Well today I > am proud to say that I've quit smoking...it's been 5> days.> > I've always prided myself on doing things healthy.> Except for > occasional chicken and fish, I haven't eaten any> other meat in about > 12 years. I eat healthy, I take my> vitamins...basically always > considered myself to be actively taking part in my> life and health. > I know I was fooling myself. The thing is, with my> asthma, I've been > concentrating lately too much on what herbs to take> to help with my > latest bout. I've been drinking lots of water, doing> extensive > research on various natural remedies...all the while> with a > cigarette in my hand. Pathetic huh? I've gotten to> the point of > using my inhaler just so that I could smoke a> cigarette. Well I > guess my body was throwing signals at me in leaps> and bounds, I just > chose to ignore them.> > I know it's only been 5 days, but I feel this is a> great > accomplishment for me. If I can make it past those> first few days, I > can make it for the rest of my life. I really feel> great. My asthma > is still bugging me a little, nothing at all like it> was last week > though. I think I'm past the emergency room stage.> I've also been > taking Lobelia, which is not only good for asthma,> but it's also a > smoking cessation herb. Along with the Lobelia, I've> also made > Garlic and Acidophilus part of my daily routine.> > What a difference quitting has made. Not just in my> breathing...but > in my sense of taste, my sense of> smell...errrmmm...good AND bad, > lol. I've cut back drastically on the medications> I've been taking.> > I did some research on the albuterol I take. My> pharmacist once told > me that I was addicted to the inhaler. I began> putting it across the > bedroom so I had to physically get up to use it, at> which point I > often realized that I really didn't need it, it was> just habit. My > pulmonary doctor told me that albuterol was NOT> addictive. Well, > whatever she says, but I found that the life of my> inhaler lasted > MUCH longer by keeping it across the room. Last> night I read that > another way albuterol is so addictive is because> with each use, it > actually DAMAGES your lungs, making you actually use> it more and > more frequently.> > One other thing I've noticed, which my pulmonary doc> also disagrees > with, is that my asthma is always at it's worst when> I have my > period. Two years ago, several months in a row, I> was in the ER. One > time I was there and the nurse asked me for my last> date of my > period, I told her that I was currently on it...then> it dawned on > me. EVERY time I went to the ER, every time they> asked that > question, my answer was always the same. The time I> was on a > respirator I was also on it. I remember the first> moment I woke up, > I asked the nurse for a tampon. I guess it's> hormones. I dunno...has > anybody ever heard of this?> > Ok, now I'm starting to ramble..I'm getting tired> from the melatonin > I took. My sleep habits are all out of whack, both> from the quitting > thing plus I worked odd hours this weekend.> > Kim> 5 days, 37 minutes and 13 seconds smoke free.> > 126 cigarettes not smoked. > $29.69 and 23 hours of your life saved. > > Your quit date: 10/26/2002 > > > > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily nowhttp://hotjobs./

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Alright Kim! Good for you girl ;-) Your asthma can have emotional as well as physical triggers, which would explain the period thing. My daughter triggers everytime she is upset, which is hard because she is 4 and VERY dramatic right now LOL!

 

Janet

 

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sirona71

herbal remedies

Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:38 PM

[herbal remedies] (unknown)

Hi all...I guess it's time to let the cat out of the bag. I know what you are all gonna think with my asthma and all...and that's partly what prompted me to take this step. I've never mentioned it before but I smoke, or I should say **used** to smoke. Well today I am proud to say that I've quit smoking...it's been 5 days.I've always prided myself on doing things healthy. Except for occasional chicken and fish, I haven't eaten any other meat in about 12 years. I eat healthy, I take my vitamins...basically always considered myself to be actively taking part in my life and health. I know I was fooling myself. The thing is, with my asthma, I've been concentrating lately too much on what herbs to take to help with my latest bout. I've been drinking lots of water, doing extensive research on various natural remedies...all the while with a cigarette in my hand. Pathetic huh? I've gotten to the point of using my inhaler just so that I could smoke a cigarette. Well I guess my body was throwing signals at me in leaps and bounds, I just chose to ignore them.I know it's only been 5 days, but I feel this is a great accomplishment for me. If I can make it past those first few days, I can make it for the rest of my life. I really feel great. My asthma is still bugging me a little, nothing at all like it was last week though. I think I'm past the emergency room stage. I've also been taking Lobelia, which is not only good for asthma, but it's also a smoking cessation herb. Along with the Lobelia, I've also made Garlic and Acidophilus part of my daily routine.What a difference quitting has made. Not just in my breathing...but in my sense of taste, my sense of smell...errrmmm...good AND bad, lol. I've cut back drastically on the medications I've been taking.I did some research on the albuterol I take. My pharmacist once told me that I was addicted to the inhaler. I began putting it across the bedroom so I had to physically get up to use it, at which point I often realized that I really didn't need it, it was just habit. My pulmonary doctor told me that albuterol was NOT addictive. Well, whatever she says, but I found that the life of my inhaler lasted MUCH longer by keeping it across the room. Last night I read that another way albuterol is so addictive is because with each use, it actually DAMAGES your lungs, making you actually use it more and more frequently.One other thing I've noticed, which my pulmonary doc also disagrees with, is that my asthma is always at it's worst when I have my period. Two years ago, several months in a row, I was in the ER. One time I was there and the nurse asked me for my last date of my period, I told her that I was currently on it...then it dawned on me. EVERY time I went to the ER, every time they asked that question, my answer was always the same. The time I was on a respirator I was also on it. I remember the first moment I woke up, I asked the nurse for a tampon. I guess it's hormones. I dunno...has anybody ever heard of this?Ok, now I'm starting to ramble..I'm getting tired from the melatonin I took. My sleep habits are all out of whack, both from the quitting thing plus I worked odd hours this weekend.Kim5 days, 37 minutes and 13 seconds smoke free.126 cigarettes not smoked. $29.69 and 23 hours of your life saved. Your quit date: 10/26/2002 Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Hi,

 

On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:51:47AM -0500, Drmecatcher wrote:

> I'm a smoker also and I'd love to quit. Could you tell me about this online

> quit page?

> Thanks bunches,

> Sherri

 

 

I just had a quick look and it's changed heaps since I quit, it's

now www.quitnet.com, think it used to be org, not sure, anyway it

seems to offer similar sort of support. There were all sorts of

message boards and anniversary stuff plus your own quitnet email.

 

Persian

 

--

 

All living beings love their life, desire pleasure, and are averse to pain;

they dislike any injury to themselves; everybody is desirous of life,

and to every being, his own life is very dear. This is the quintessence of

wisdom: Not to injure any living being. - Excerpt from Here's Harmlessness

- An Anthology of Ahimsa. Published by The American Vegan Society.

 

 

As often as Herman had witnessed the slaughter of animals and fish,

he always had the same thought: in their behaviour towards creatures,

all men were Nazis. The smugness with which man could do with another species

as he pleased exemplified the most extreme racist theories, the principal

that might is right... for the animals, life is always Treblinka.

- Isaac Bashevis Singer, from Enemies: A Love Story

 

 

" We have enslaved the rest of the animal creation

and have treated our distant cousins in fur and feather so badly that,

beyond doubt, if they were able to formulate a religion, they would

depict the devil in human form " - William Ralph Inge

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

 

No I did not and am not thinking anything. You were living life on your

terms right or wrong. We all have our own path we must each walk. I wish to

congratulate you on your new found wisdom and choice in life. Very well

done. I congratulate you and am with you 100%. You can overcome and I do

believe that you will accomplish. One day at a time is all you have to do.

Your body is going to love you for it. Again, congratulations.

 

Don Quai

 

 

 

 

 

 

> " sirona71 " <kims83

>herbal remedies

>herbal remedies

>[herbal remedies] (unknown)

>Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:38:42 -0000

>

>Hi all...I guess it's time to let the cat out of the bag. I know

>what you are all gonna think with my asthma and all...and that's

>partly what prompted me to take this step. I've never mentioned it

>before but I smoke, or I should say **used** to smoke. Well today I

>am proud to say that I've quit smoking...it's been 5 days.

>

>I've always prided myself on doing things healthy. Except for

>occasional chicken and fish, I haven't eaten any other meat in about

>12 years. I eat healthy, I take my vitamins...basically always

>considered myself to be actively taking part in my life and health.

>I know I was fooling myself. The thing is, with my asthma, I've been

>concentrating lately too much on what herbs to take to help with my

>latest bout. I've been drinking lots of water, doing extensive

>research on various natural remedies...all the while with a

>cigarette in my hand. Pathetic huh? I've gotten to the point of

>using my inhaler just so that I could smoke a cigarette. Well I

>guess my body was throwing signals at me in leaps and bounds, I just

>chose to ignore them.

>

>I know it's only been 5 days, but I feel this is a great

>accomplishment for me. If I can make it past those first few days, I

>can make it for the rest of my life. I really feel great. My asthma

>is still bugging me a little, nothing at all like it was last week

>though. I think I'm past the emergency room stage. I've also been

>taking Lobelia, which is not only good for asthma, but it's also a

>smoking cessation herb. Along with the Lobelia, I've also made

>Garlic and Acidophilus part of my daily routine.

>

>What a difference quitting has made. Not just in my breathing...but

>in my sense of taste, my sense of smell...errrmmm...good AND bad,

>lol. I've cut back drastically on the medications I've been taking.

>

>I did some research on the albuterol I take. My pharmacist once told

>me that I was addicted to the inhaler. I began putting it across the

>bedroom so I had to physically get up to use it, at which point I

>often realized that I really didn't need it, it was just habit. My

>pulmonary doctor told me that albuterol was NOT addictive. Well,

>whatever she says, but I found that the life of my inhaler lasted

>MUCH longer by keeping it across the room. Last night I read that

>another way albuterol is so addictive is because with each use, it

>actually DAMAGES your lungs, making you actually use it more and

>more frequently.

>

>One other thing I've noticed, which my pulmonary doc also disagrees

>with, is that my asthma is always at it's worst when I have my

>period. Two years ago, several months in a row, I was in the ER. One

>time I was there and the nurse asked me for my last date of my

>period, I told her that I was currently on it...then it dawned on

>me. EVERY time I went to the ER, every time they asked that

>question, my answer was always the same. The time I was on a

>respirator I was also on it. I remember the first moment I woke up,

>I asked the nurse for a tampon. I guess it's hormones. I dunno...has

>anybody ever heard of this?

>

>Ok, now I'm starting to ramble..I'm getting tired from the melatonin

>I took. My sleep habits are all out of whack, both from the quitting

>thing plus I worked odd hours this weekend.

>

>Kim

>5 days, 37 minutes and 13 seconds smoke free.

>

>126 cigarettes not smoked.

>$29.69 and 23 hours of your life saved.

>

>Your quit date: 10/26/2002

>

>

>

 

 

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VERY well done.

ARC.

Corinne.

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" sirona71 " <kims83

<herbal remedies >

Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:38 PM

[herbal remedies] (unknown)

 

 

> Hi all...I guess it's time to let the cat out of the bag. I know

> what you are all gonna think with my asthma and all...and that's

> partly what prompted me to take this step. I've never mentioned it

> before but I smoke, or I should say **used** to smoke. Well today I

> am proud to say that I've quit smoking...it's been 5 days.

>

> I've always prided myself on doing things healthy. Except for

> occasional chicken and fish, I haven't eaten any other meat in about

> 12 years. I eat healthy, I take my vitamins...basically always

> considered myself to be actively taking part in my life and health.

> I know I was fooling myself. The thing is, with my asthma, I've been

> concentrating lately too much on what herbs to take to help with my

> latest bout. I've been drinking lots of water, doing extensive

> research on various natural remedies...all the while with a

> cigarette in my hand. Pathetic huh? I've gotten to the point of

> using my inhaler just so that I could smoke a cigarette. Well I

> guess my body was throwing signals at me in leaps and bounds, I just

> chose to ignore them.

>

> I know it's only been 5 days, but I feel this is a great

> accomplishment for me. If I can make it past those first few days, I

> can make it for the rest of my life. I really feel great. My asthma

> is still bugging me a little, nothing at all like it was last week

> though. I think I'm past the emergency room stage. I've also been

> taking Lobelia, which is not only good for asthma, but it's also a

> smoking cessation herb. Along with the Lobelia, I've also made

> Garlic and Acidophilus part of my daily routine.

>

> What a difference quitting has made. Not just in my breathing...but

> in my sense of taste, my sense of smell...errrmmm...good AND bad,

> lol. I've cut back drastically on the medications I've been taking.

>

> I did some research on the albuterol I take. My pharmacist once told

> me that I was addicted to the inhaler. I began putting it across the

> bedroom so I had to physically get up to use it, at which point I

> often realized that I really didn't need it, it was just habit. My

> pulmonary doctor told me that albuterol was NOT addictive. Well,

> whatever she says, but I found that the life of my inhaler lasted

> MUCH longer by keeping it across the room. Last night I read that

> another way albuterol is so addictive is because with each use, it

> actually DAMAGES your lungs, making you actually use it more and

> more frequently.

>

> One other thing I've noticed, which my pulmonary doc also disagrees

> with, is that my asthma is always at it's worst when I have my

> period. Two years ago, several months in a row, I was in the ER. One

> time I was there and the nurse asked me for my last date of my

> period, I told her that I was currently on it...then it dawned on

> me. EVERY time I went to the ER, every time they asked that

> question, my answer was always the same. The time I was on a

> respirator I was also on it. I remember the first moment I woke up,

> I asked the nurse for a tampon. I guess it's hormones. I dunno...has

> anybody ever heard of this?

>

> Ok, now I'm starting to ramble..I'm getting tired from the melatonin

> I took. My sleep habits are all out of whack, both from the quitting

> thing plus I worked odd hours this weekend.

>

> Kim

> 5 days, 37 minutes and 13 seconds smoke free.

>

> 126 cigarettes not smoked.

> $29.69 and 23 hours of your life saved.

>

> Your quit date: 10/26/2002

>

>

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>