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Hello Diana,

How are you doing? Can I get to know you more so I can have a friend

to talk to about crystals. How long have you been working with

crystals?

 

Regards,

Sarala.

 

, dendresen@e... wrote:

> Hello, Sarala, Welcome to the group. Speaking for myself, I am

thrilled to be working with crystals.

> Love, Light and Blessings to us all, Diana Endresen

>

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> sarala7 <sarala7>

> Sep 25, 2005 8:19 PM

>

> [CrystalHW] Hello

>

> Greetings to everyone. My name is Sarala and I am from Malaysia. I

am <BR>

> new to this group and I am a beginner in crystal healing. I am

really <BR>

> fasinated with the crystal energy and learning more and more each

day. <BR>

> I am really happy to be part of this wonderful group.

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Hello, Sarala,

Of course you will also get to know others in the group. I was so delighted

when I found this group, as I thought I was the only one who talked to crystals

and interacted with them. I was very happy to find the group, too. I was

introduced to the group by a friend from Turkey, and the group moderator is from

California in the USA and I live in Washington State, in the USA, so you can see

there are members from all over. We can write offline if you like. my email

address is dendresen

 

I've been working with crystals for a relatively short time in this life:

something like 5-6 years, although once I was attuned to Usui Reiki master in

2001 I did notice my open-ness to crystals increasing substantially. From then

and when I realized they were teaching me how to work with them, my work with

them has grown. I use them all the time: wearing them, sleeping with them,

having them around me at my " day job " , etc., And I run a rock shop on Sundays,

which is my bliss.

 

So I guess you could say I'm just overall blissed!

 

Love, Light and Blessings to us all, Diana

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Welcome Lizzie!

This is a great group for sharing and learning.

 

What is this Reiki Shoden you mention?

 

I am only familiar with Usui Reiki.

 

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Greetings, smithks1.

 

Welcome to the list.

 

I think you'll find that many of those on the list have had experiences

of the sort you have described. Many of us have our own Websites, where

you can find out more about us. You can find out more about me, for

example, by visiting www.scs-matters.com

 

And enjoy...

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Dear ....,

 

Welcome to the group. Feel free to share. No one will lable you and you are

not what you are labelled anyway, so why bother?

 

Swamy

Hyderabad, India

 

accrocheuse1 <smithks1 wrote:

I just joined this message board and would like to introduce myself.

I am a 36 year old woman living in Ohio but I have spent most of my

life on the east coast. I have had intense spiritual experiences,

especially in the past year or so, but became wary of sharing all that

has happened to me as I find the very few people I have told

immediately want to label the experiences and label me, which makes me

uncomfortable. I joined this group in the hope of learning more about

healing energy and the mind/body connection and myself in the process

and I look forward to chatting with you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Accrocheuse,

Welcome to the body mind group. I am male from India and conducting my

research in scientific spirituality and psychic for more than 25 yrs. I have

launched my own site on self healing through change in breathing pattern which

has been closed now and now i am busy in constructing my enhanced site on

Healing {self, touch and finally distant healing.}. I have cured so many people

in India and abroad through distant healing technique. Kindly share your thought

on Healing.

Ramesh Chandra

 

accrocheuse1 <smithks1 wrote:

I just joined this message board and would like to introduce myself.

I am a 36 year old woman living in Ohio but I have spent most of my

life on the east coast. I have had intense spiritual experiences,

especially in the past year or so, but became wary of sharing all that

has happened to me as I find the very few people I have told

immediately want to label the experiences and label me, which makes me

uncomfortable. I joined this group in the hope of learning more about

healing energy and the mind/body connection and myself in the process

and I look forward to chatting with you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Ramesh and thank you for the welcome. Some quick thoughts on

healing would be that people who heal aren't as unusual as one would

think. My great grandfather was Cherokee and a healer and this skill

was passed down to other people in my family. It wasn't until I

experienced an intense spiritual awakening that I too could heal

myself and others although I don't practice this regularly and have

felt lately that I am not in the right frame of mind or lack the

energy to do it. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Good luck with your research.

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Hi Accrocheuse1,

 

You said that you don't practice what your great grandfather taught your

family on a regular basis because you have lack of energy and don't have the

right frame of mind. I have heard that this can be caused from lack of

meditation on a regular basis and not properly clearing your mind daily. It

only takes about 15 minutes a day to do this which could really help you. I am

guilty myself of not properly clearing myself everyday and then feel so bogged

down that sometimes I have hardly any energy at all. But when I do practice

this, I feel so much better and feel like I can help others so much more.

 

:)Leisel

 

accrocheuse1 <smithks1 wrote:

Hello Ramesh and thank you for the welcome. Some quick thoughts on

healing would be that people who heal aren't as unusual as one would

think. My great grandfather was Cherokee and a healer and this skill

was passed down to other people in my family. It wasn't until I

experienced an intense spiritual awakening that I too could heal

myself and others although I don't practice this regularly and have

felt lately that I am not in the right frame of mind or lack the

energy to do it. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Good luck with your research.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Leisel, I totally agree with you. I stopped doing sitting

meditation and then yoga and I've noticed a lot of negative things

happening because of this :-(. I hope to get back into these things

soon.

Thanks,

Kimberly

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Dear Accrocheusel,

Thanks for your mail.

Ramesh Chandra

 

accrocheuse1 <smithks1 wrote:

Hello Ramesh and thank you for the welcome. Some quick thoughts on

healing would be that people who heal aren't as unusual as one would

think. My great grandfather was Cherokee and a healer and this skill

was passed down to other people in my family. It wasn't until I

experienced an intense spiritual awakening that I too could heal

myself and others although I don't practice this regularly and have

felt lately that I am not in the right frame of mind or lack the

energy to do it. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Good luck with your research.

 

 

 

 

 

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---hi klaus

so glad you have found out about drug em and forget em attitude

 

now here is some things which because you are in a good position you

may help with

 

dead right on the massage therapy.

 

Here are some reported benefits of massage:

Research in massage therapy has been ongoing for more than 120 years.

Here are some reported benefits of massage:

 

Preliminary results suggested cancer patients had less pain and

anxiety after receiving therapeutic massage at the James Cancer

Hospital and Research Institute in Columbus, Ohio.

 

Women who had experienced the recent death of a child were less

depressed after receiving therapeutic massage, according to

preliminary results of a study at the University of South Carolina

Medical school students at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of

New Jersey-New Jersey Medical School who were massaged before an exam

showed a significant decrease in anxiety and respiratory rates. as

well as a significant increase in white blood cells and natural killer

cell activity, suggesting a benefit to the immune system

 

 

Studies funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have found

massage beneficial in improving weight gain in HIV-exposed infants and

facilitating recovery in patients who underwent abdominal surgery. At

the University of Miami School of Medicine's Touch Research Institute,

researchers have found that massage is helpful in decreasing blood

pressure in people with hypertension, alleviating pain in migraine

sufferers and improving alertness and performance in office workers.

An increasing number of research studies show massage reduces heart

rate, lowers blood pressure, increases blood circulation and lymph

flow, relaxes muscles, improves range of motion, and increases

endorphins (enhancing medical treatment). Although therapeutic massage

does not increase muscle strength, it can stimulate weak, inactive

muscles and, thus, partially compensate for the lack of exercise and

inactivity resulting from illness or injury. It also can hasten and

lead to a more complete recovery from exercise or injury.

 

Research has verified that:

Office workers massaged regularly were more alert, performed better

and were less stressed than those who weren't massaged.

Massage therapy decreased the effects of anxiety, tension, depression,

pain, and itching in burn patients.

Abdominal surgery patients recovered more quickly after massage.

Premature infants who were massaged gained more weight and fared

better than those who weren't.

Autistic children showed less erratic behaviour after massage therapy.

 

According AMTA, massage helps both physically and mentally.

 

" Often times people are stressed in our culture. Stress-related

disorders make up between 80-and-90 percent of the ailments that bring

people to family-practice physicians. What they require is someone to

listen, someone to touch them, someone to care. That does not exist in

modern medicine.

One of the complaints heard frequently is that physicians don't touch

their patients any more. Touch just isn't there. Years ago massage was

a big part of nursing. There was so much care, so much touch, so much

goodness conveyed through massage. Now nurses for the most part are as

busy as physicians. They're writing charts, dealing with insurance

notes, they're doing procedures and often there is no room for massage

any more.

I believe massage therapy is absolutely key in the healing process not

only in the hospital environment but because it relieves stress, it is

obviously foundational in the healing process any time and anywhere. "

 

Joan Borysenko - Massage Journal Interview, Fall 1999

Physical Benefits of Therapeutic Massage

Massage also provides another therapeutic component largely absent in

today¡¦s world: tactile stimulation, or, more simply, touch. In 1986,

the Touch Research Institute at the University of Miami published

groundbreaking research on the effects of massage on premature babies.

The preterm babies who received massage therapy showed 47% greater

weight gain and six-day shorter hospital stays than the infants who

were not receiving massage. But is this study evidence of what loving

touch can do spiritually, or rather what massage can do on a

physiological level? Regardless, babies are not the only benefactors

 

Helps relieve stress and aids relaxation

 

Helps relieve muscle tension and stiffness Alleviates discomfort

during pregnancy

 

Fosters faster healing of strained muscles and sprained ligaments;

reduces pain and swelling; reduces formation of excessive scar tissue

 

Reduces muscle spasms Provides greater joint flexibility and range of

motion

 

Enhances athletic performance; Treats injuries caused during sport or

work

 

Promotes deeper and easier breathing Improves circulation of blood and

movement of lymph fluids

 

Reduces blood pressure Helps relieve tension-related headaches and

effects of eye-strain

 

Enhances the health and nourishment of skin Improves posture

 

Strengthens the immune system Treats musculoskeletal problems

 

Rehabilitation post operative Rehabilitation after injury (Source:

AMTA

 

Mental Benefits of Massage Therapy

 

Fosters peace of mind Promotes a relaxed state of mental alertness

 

Helps relieve mental stress Improves ability to monitor stress signals

and respond appropriately

 

Enhances capacity for calm thinking and creativity Emotional Benefits

 

Satisfies needs for caring nurturing touch Fosters a feeling of well-

being

 

Reduces levels of anxiety Creates body awareness Increases awareness

of mind-body connection

 

 

Emotional Level benefits

 

Feeling of well-being

Reduced levels of anxiety

Increased awareness of mind-body connection

Enhanced self image

A sense of being unified and in harmony

 

and something you could help yourelf with andthem

Arthritis and joint care

 

There are about 150 different types of arthritis recognised by

rheumatologists for the term is used to cover a wide range of

illnesses covering the muscular skeletal system. Basically however

arthritis refers to inflammation of the joints the most common being

osteoarthritis.

Less common but far more disabling is rheumatoid arthritis, which is

usually a more chronic disease. Usual methods of treatment involve

aspirin which acts to suppress inflammation Cortisone that seems to be

effective but extended use has shown side effects to the adrenal

glands, which impairs the body to withstand stress. There is also a

tendency for the symptoms to intensify when the cortisone is withdrawn.

From the Edgar cayce perspective

As a preventative measure Cayce said that one should have a peanut oil

rub or massage once a week over the entire body, the peanut oil being

used liberally, he said no one need fear arthritis.

Causes

Cayce describes the causes, which were limited to seven categories:

poor assimilation, poor elimination, impaired circulation, glandular

malfunction, karmic and psychological causes previous treatments,

spinal sublaxations and injuries.

According to cayce there was a pattern with improper eliminations in

some people, which began with the production of excess stomach acid, a

condition that sometimes came from suppressed anger and other stress

related conditions. The excess acid tended to decrease the lymphatic

system.

 

Poor assimilation was also a factor, with some foods actually becoming

poisonous due to their inability to be utilised properly. Constipation

resulted.As a contributing factor circulation was mentioned in 40% of

cases. In 8% of cases glandular misfunction was sited as the first

cause and in 29% of the readings as a contributing factor.

 

Karma was also mentioned as a cause as was the bearing of resentments,

this was considered to be a major factor in the development of the

disease.

 

Previous treatments were also mentioned with one man being told that

certain immunisation injections had disturbed his circulation

resulting in an arthritic condition.Spinal misalignments and injuries

were also noted as a first cause, most of the readings mentioned the

coccyx or the lower portion of the spine as the source of the

problems.Other contributing causes were diet,exercise,and mental

attitude.

Treatment

1. Foods to avoided were white flour and its products, white bread,

pasta etc. fried foods, carbonated drinks, beer and hard liquor, [an

occasional glass of red wine was OK] and white potatoes but the skins

were OK.

 

2. Combinations of foods to be avoided were starches and sugar,

coffee and tea with milk or cream and citrus fruits with cereals or

dairy products.

A typical diet placed emphasis on vegetables and fruits whole grains

and light proteins.highly advised was a decrease in meats and starches

with meat being completely excluded from the diet for a period of

time .In severe cases a semi liquid diet was advised to avoid strain

on the system.

 

3. Massage,was indicated in 63% of the readings and this was to be

given usually after another treatment such as as Epsom salt baths or

after a steam bath or the use of the wet cell device. Specific oils

were advised to be used with the massage, which were equal parts of

olive oil with peanut oil and tincture of myrrh. Prepared by heating a

small amount of olive oil and then adding the myrrh. It was mentioned

to use the oils freely and as much as the body could absorb. Other

oils were lanolin, mineral oil, olio pine needles, sassafras oil,

witch hazel, oil of wintergreen, cedarwood oil, mustard oil, kerosene

and tincture of benzoin.

Cayce said to heat the oil before use to aid absorbtion. Massage were

to be given in a firm but gentle rotary motion not pinching the

muscles but drawing the circulation by moving the hands smoothly over

the skin. Special attention was to given to the neck and spine and to

parts of the body where there was discomfort. The direction given for

the massage was from the trunk to the extremities of the body.

Frequency of massage varied but the most common was once weekly, once

monthly and three times weekly.

 

4. Atomidine an edgar cayce product which can be got from the usa or

in england was also recommended in 42% of cases but due to its high

iodine content this was recommended in specific dosages and treatment

cycles. Excessive iodine in the system could overstimulate the thyroid

and result in harmful effects in the body. Never take atomidine when

you are using thyroid medicine or other drugs as the drugs could react

with each other and have undesirable effects.

The most common dosage was one drop taken daily for five days

followed by a five-day rest period then one-drop daily then rest for

five days. Then resume the cycle.Daily dosages ranged from one to

eight drops daily. It was recommended that atomidine was taken in half

glass of water in the morning before eating. Frequently atomidine was

coordinated with Epsom salt baths and massage with the baths being

taken during the rest period and immediately following the atomidine

sequence.

 

5. Improving the elimination process within the body,used in about

37% of cases the most frequent methods were castor oil packs, enemas,

colonics, and eno salts. Body temperature water was to be used for the

colonic which was to be followed by a rinse with an antiseptic such as

Glyco thymoline one-tablespoon to a quart of water. Warm castor oil

packs can be also applied over the abdominal area together with

internal doses of olive oil. The packs were made by heating the oil

and soaking the oil in woolen flannel- not boiling the oil but as hot

as you could stand. The pack was then placed over say the stomach area

or liver usualy with a plastic bag over the top to prevent soiling the

lot can be strapped into place and then heated or kept warm.

Castor oil is also used on any arthritic, rheumatic, or muscular and

joint pain as unction. Basically an infra red lamp is placed 12-18

inches from the part to be massaged. Apply the castor oil on the

painful area and let the lamp warm it and this will help the oil to

penetrate the skin, this done for about 5-10 mins. Then keep rubbing

with the fingers and hand until the oil is worked in. Keep putting

more oil on and massaging continued for 10-60 mins. Massage was also

very helpful, to be given usually after another treatment such as an

Epsom salt bath.

 

If the reaction to colonics and enemas was to severe, emphasis was

placed on gentler methods such as Epsom salt baths, steam baths and a

diet rich in laxative foods.

Epsom salt baths were in a range of five pounds of Epsom salts to

about 20 galls of water for a modern tub and 8-10 pounds for an old

tub. Be in the tub for about 10-12 mins to start with and then work up

to 20 mins. Further stimulation to the body could be given with using

massage or rubbing the extremities of the body while in the bath. Temp

of bath was to be as hot as possible up to the point of pain.

Epsom salt packs can be also applied when needed over areas of extreme

pain. The salts apparently act by drawing out toxins. you can also

immerse any local part of the body in a smaller basin too with people

who have arthritic hands or other parts of the body. also you can form

a pack ,by dissolving say 1 pound of salts in a small basin or pot and

as much water necessary to saturate a towel. apply as hot as possible

over the area indicated and keep repeating the applications for 2-3

hrs .where possible use an infra red lamp or other means to keep the

pack hot. Where there is crippling of the joints of the hands, pain

of arthritis or inflammation of the tendons considerable relief can be

found by using an Epsom salt bath and massage. Use a large quantity of

the salts about 1 pound in the water though, not just a spoon full.

Soak the affected area for about 5 mins and then massage the affected

area under water, rotate the joints and soak again for another 5-10

mins.

 

6. Spinal manipulation such as osteopathy although chiropractic and

neropathy were also recommended. Cayce claimed there was no better

mechanical therapy as good as spinal manipulation .One could start at

the base of the spine and sometimes at the top- cayce gave both

methods, and you could also work from the outer portions of the body

inwards.

 

7. Mental attitude was essential to healing; it had to be conducive to

the healing. Positive thinking opened the body to the source of all

healing- that which is spiritual and unitive in nature. Cayce said

that only the self stood in the way of healing.

 

8. Persistence and consistency of the treatments was highly desirable.

 

9. Fume baths using a cabinet steam bath were also recommended. In 19%

of readings, the baths were to relax the body and stimulate the

perspiratory system so it could throw off toxins and waste through the

skin. Various substances were to be added to the baths such as witch

hazel, which was most frequent. Atomidine, pine oil, Epsom salts and a

mixture of witch hazel and iodine, pine and wintergreen oil, or pine

oil and tincture of benzoin. To avoid strain an ice bag or cold cloth

could be placed on the head. In almost all cases massage was

recommended after the sweat.

 

10. Electrotherapy was also mentioned, using the edgar cayce device

known as the wet cell in the most severe cases. The impedance device

was also used for 20 min in cycles of four at a time; meditation and

devotional thoughts were advised during the treatment. The violet ray

was used in conjunction with other treatments such as internal doses

of chloride of gold and bromide of soda. These were to be taken just

before the violet ray treatment and the ultraviolet light applied over

the spine and lower limbs treatment time varied from 1.5 ¡V 30 min and

daily ¡V once every 2 weeks.

 

11. Internal doses of gold and soda ¡V minute amounts of chloride of

gold and bicarb of soda in half a glass of water.

 

 

Although not specifically recommended by cayce spiritual healing has

the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see other pages

on this fascinating subject.

 

From the Reilly health book which is essential reading to all those

who are interested in getting and keeping well are the directions for

the Epsom salt bath.

Relief has been obtained to joints, pain of arthritis, of inflammation

of the tendons by using Epsom salts and massage. A seamstress was sent

to Reilly, using a Epsom salt hand bath and massage for two weeks she

was able to close her hand something she had not been able to do two

weeks before. The same treatment was applied with many musicians. Make

a hot Epsom salt solution by adding one pound of salts to a basin or

bowl. Soak the hand for about 5 mins and then massage the hand with

the other hand under water, really work the fingers rotating the

joints then soak again for another 5-10 mins. After about 20 mins of

soaking take the hands out and massage with peanut oil all the way up

the arms, the same procedure can be used with the feet.

Epsom salt baths were also advised with amounts varying between 5-20

lbs of salts to the bath tub starting at 101degress and working up to

106-108, staying in the tub for 10-12 mins to start and then gradually

increase to 20 mins. An ice bag over certain areas with help you bear

the heat. This he found particularly good therapy for stiff joints

muscular pain arthritis and rheumatism for increasing the metabolism

and the work of the heart and relieving pain. Caution was needed with

cardiovascular and high blood pressure cases.

 

11.One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others

where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything they

can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently

mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a great

ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma. See

other pages on this particularly important treatment.

 

12 Using Egyptian oil,- an edgar cayce product

One lady reported pains and growths are gone and arthritis did not

come to her this year. Another reports that her knees were so swollen

but after using the oil swelling went down, she uses the oil 2-3 times

a week. This other lady reports that soaking in Epsom salts then

applying the oil gave her the best results. Pain seems to ease

immediately and use of the effected parts returns far more rapidly

than ever before.

The oil had also relieved paralysis, which some poor man had on his

left side.

Another lady in her 80s reports says the oil is the only thing, which

keeps her arthritic knees. There is a lot more to the research

covering arthritis including aspects of diet,glands,etc

 

 

 

Rheumatoid Arthritis

This is a chronic inflammatory condition; it may apparently begin at

any time, the usual onset is between 20-40. The symptoms are joint

swelling stiffness, warmth tenderness and pain; this can be very

debilitating.

Cayce gave 19 readings for eleven people with this condition with an

age range of 22-72 yrs old.

Causes

1. Glandular incordination mentioned in 7 cases and was a major

factor .It was the lack of proper hormonal secretions which

contributed to problems with the circulation, the blood and calcium

levels and the proper absorption of minerals from food.

 

2. Improper eliminations which would lead to a build up of toxins

within the body was sited in 6 cases

3. In four cases spinal misalignment especially in the lower spine

which could interfere with the proper nerve impulses action.

 

4. Poor assimilations were mentioned as a contributing factor in three

cases.

 

 

Treatment

1.Ten people received dietary advice with the emphasis on alkaline

reacting foods ¡V raw vegetables such as carrots, cabbage, watercress,

celery and lettuce. Served in any combination for one meal a day.

Leafy veg was recommended over the pod variety. Strongly advised were

food sources, which contained specific minerals such as magnesium,

silicon, sulphur and iodine. Avoid of red meats, fried foods, and

starches.

 

2.Nine people were recommended massage with a combination of olive oil

and peanut oil with the limbs joints and extremities receiving special

attention.

 

3. Electrotherapy was mentioned in 7 cases where there was evidence of

nerve deterioration, the wet cell was to be used to combat this.the

violet ray and the radial appliance were also mentioned.

 

4, Hydrotherapy was mentioned in 5 cases and took the form of Epsom

salt baths this was to relax the body and relieve pain.

Four people were given instructions for internal doses of atomidine to

improve glandular coordination.

 

5.Gold chloride was mentioned in 4 cases once by itself and with

bromide or bicarbonate of soda. This was to help the nervous system.

 

6.To relieve pain in the joints cayce advised packs of Epsom salts and

in two cases castor oil pack and one of glycothymoline.

 

 

7.Sedatives were mentioned in three cases in the form of aspirin,

cobra venom [to be administered by a doctor versed in this field] and

a capsule consisting of eucalyptus, rectified oil of turpentine and

benzosal.

 

8.Kaldak tonic and stimulants for eliminations were also mentioned.

 

 

9.Adjustments to the entire spinal column were suggested in four

cases.

 

Although not specifically recommended by cayce spiritual/reiki

healing has the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see

other pages on this fascinating subject.

 

 

12 Spiritual healing, Reiki, find a good healer - but someone you

feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have

negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing

one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices

are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim,

Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others.

 

Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one of

those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so many

of his healings.

 

Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki is the transference of certain

energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or

even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well

outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people

can feel this energy .

 

The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful

which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit or

soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a

steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its

limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite.

 

A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy

reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act as

the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of

which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit

more energy than smaller wires.

 

Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going

to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is

with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or what

have you.

 

Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in this

universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some it is

the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it can be

sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence of some

healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people and one

wishes that there were more people giving off just as beautiful

vibrations as these people were this world would truly transform it

 

One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others

where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything they

can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently

mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a great

ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma. See

other pages on this particularly important treatment.

 

 

 

Some feedback

 

My healing was major. I have been free of flare-ups for three years at

this writing. Because of this level of healing, I know I would not

change a thing about what I did! By adhering to Cayce's instructions

as closely as possible, I hit on an effective combination of

Atomidine, Epsom Salts, and Massage Oils. Though not easy, I consider

the problems I encountered to be very minor compared with the benefits

 

Castor Oil Packs & Ice as Needed Daily use of Castor Oil Packs has

been shown to dissolve arthritic spurs, but I used them to treat local

inflammation. Before consulting with Dr. McGarey, I kept serious

inflammation flare-ups under control the same way I had been doing for

ten years, with Castor Oil Packs. I also applied ice, sometimes

alternating the two with severe flare-ups. Ice alone is sufficient for

minor flare-ups. Only once did Cayce recommend Castor Oil Packs for

treating arthritis, but they had been extremely helpful, so I

continued with them. The worst flare-up I experienced as part of my

recovery involved my right hip, much of my pelvic area and my lower

back. The pain was excruciating with even the slightest movement, so I

only got out of bed to crawl to the bathroom. I was unable to walk for

four days. My doctor would very likely have treated me with cortisone

shots if I had called him.

 

Cayce says clearly that anti-inflammatory medications are not helpful,

and in fact make things worse. I felt cortisone shots would prevent

the flare-up from carrying out its corrective purpose. I was right.

Day and night for a week, I alternated castor oil packs with ice,

noting gradual improvement. The hip not only completely healed, it

ceased to trouble me thereafter.

 

The Edgar Cayce arthritis healing methods for me were a resounding

success. After only 6 weeks, I noticed a greatly reduced need for

toxic anti-inflammatory drugs, and soon eliminated them altogether.

Within a few weeks of my conversation with Dr. McGarey, all major

symptoms suddenly subsided. The general pain in my body and joints was

virtually gone, as were the flare-ups and swelling. I felt deep

release from pain and the aggressiveness of the illness, as if the

arthritis had been stopped and could not return unless I went back to

old habits.

Edgar Cayce's remedies gave my body a life and vigor it had not known

in more than a decade! I was continuing to heal when I foolishly

allowed parts of the program to lapse. Had I followed the Cayce

instruction of applying the full program persistently and consistently

for a period of time well beyond the cessation of symptoms, I would

today be in remission or completely cured. Nevertheless, three years

later I remain in a much improved state of health, and completely free

of the acute inflammation flare-ups by which I was literally crippled

prior to the program. I fully credit Edgar Cayce's miraculous

therapies for this dramatic and sustained improvement. Until I applied

them seriously, I deteriorated. After I applied them, I improved

rapidly. Edgar Cayce's genius gave me back my life.

 

Fuller details can be found in Reba Ann karps book encyclopedia of

healing ISBN 0446 30981-8 which gives lots of treatments on all manor

of diseases.

 

And the Edgar cayce handbook for health by Harold reilly and Ruth hagy

brod Harold had 43 yrs working with the readings Isdn0-02601960-4

Obtained from the cayce center ARE or the heritage store, Virginia

beach

 

Books and remedies can be obtained from

 

Home Health Products to Request a Catalogue or place a Credit Card

Order: 1-800-284-9123

 

The Heritage Store 314 Laskin Road Virginia Beach, VA 23451 To Request

a Catalogue or

place a Credit Card Order: 1-800-862-2923

 

For more information about the A.R.E., visit

http://www.edgarcayce.org

If you are a member of the A.R.E., you can purchase or borrow a set of

Cayce's readings by calling 1-800-333-4499 USA

Or the Edgar Cayce centre up in Durham 13 prospect terrace, new

stanley, CO Durham, England DH9 7TR 01207 237696 ask for one of the

circulating files on arthritis

 

Research from the meridian institute

Meridian Institute, 1853 Old Donation Parkway, Suite 1

Virginia Beach, VA 23454

(757) 496-6009

Ran by a team of doctors the meridian institute carried out a brief

study on a few of the cayce treatments including Arthritis, a brief

summary is here for fuller details please contact them or their

website meridianinstitute.com/

 

Seven individuals participated in a 10-day live-in

instructional/treatment program in November 1998, in which they were

taught the elements of the Edgar Cayce therapies for arthritis. One

person had rheumatoid arthritis, and six had osteoarthritis.

Rheumatoid arthritis is characterized by inflammatory changes in the

synovial membranes of the joints and the areas around the joints and

by atrophy and rarification of the bones. In osteoarthritis there is

generally no inflammation and no spreading or migratory type of joint

involvement. Rather than a loss of calcium, there is a calcium build-

up. The project explicitly did not require participants to change

their current therapies or medications. The principal therapies

included dietary changes, massage, Atomidine (an iodine supplement),

and Epsom salts baths. The participants then returned home to continue

these therapies for six months, submitting daily logs of compliance

with the protocol.

Arthritis symptoms were evaluated at the beginning of the program and

after six months. Four of the seven people returned for the six-month

follow-up in May 1999. One was unable to attend the April session, and

returned in November. Another responded to a questionnaire by mail,

and one person dropped out of the study.

Of the six participants who submitted information, three had excellent

compliance with the protocol. One felt ¡§much improved,¡¨ and two

felt ¡§improved.¡¨

 

Other interesting feedback

According to Reba Ann karps book DR Charles Lucas chief of

endocrinology and metabolism at Harper grace hospitals Detroit has

reported that a diet low in animal fats will ease rheumatoid arthritis

pain.with some of his patients reporting that that pain and stiffness

nearly disappeared and swelling in joints reduced remarkably.

Further substantiating cayce is a study done by the Department of

medicine at Wayne State University Detroit Michigan in that fat free

diets have been found to produce complete remissions in six patients

with rheumatoid arthritis.

Bee venom was mentioned by cayce and in the UK experiments have

isolated an anti-inflammatory agent within the venom. In the US it has

also been found that injecting bee venom into the painful joints

activates natural cortisone production in the bones thus relieving the

pain of arthritis.

 

Treatment of Arthritis with Rife machine

 

About Royal Raymond Rife

Royal Raymond Rife was an inventor and genius who won scientist of the

year awards twice. He started looking for a cancer cure in 1920. By

1934 he cured 16 out of 16 (100% success) cancer patients in his

clinic, every one within 3 months. What he invented first was a

microscope that used prisms and various light types other than white

and was so powerful he could watch viruses alive and experiment on

them without destroying them in the process.

 

 

In Australia, a serious placebo (sometimes called double blind) study

was made to demonstrate the effectiveness of using audio frequency

therapy in the treatment of arthritis using a prototype of the PET

Rife-Crane unit. Behind this study is, amongst others, Geoff Baker

(B.App. Sci) who spent years of his life and millions of dollars

studying and perfecting his PET device. In order to achieve medical

approval for the sale of the PET unit in Australia, this Placebo study

was made under scientifically controlled circumstances.

 

The Study results suggest that

„h Audio Frequency Therapy is highly effective in the treatment of

Osteo and Rheumatoid Arthritis. After 36 three-hour treatment sessions

of Audio Frequency Therapy, the net mean overall improvement in the

arthritic condition of treated volunteers (irrespective of type of

arthritis suffered) was approximately 25 percent

„h Continued reduction of pain levels under the extended treatment

sessions administered to Group C (72 three hour treatment sessions,

fig 4) suggest that the benefits of Audio Frequency Therapy are

cumulative and in proportion to the number of treatment sessions a

patient undergoes.

„h Extrapolation of the mean improvement rate of all treated volunteers

in considering the " worst case " situation suggests that it may be

possible to completely eliminate many Arthritis signs and symptoms in

any sufferer of Osteo or Rheumatoid Arthritis in less than twelve

months with an AFTU treatment program of three, three hour sessions

per week.

„h Frequency Therapy may relieve all arthritis symptoms permanently.

This may be possible if the underlying causative factors are also

dealt with and the patient is given time to heal. A cleansing dietary

regimen would be considered essential in all cases.

„h Audio Frequency Therapy may relieve pain, swelling and inflammation

in all arthritis affected areas, but will leave pain in joints which

have suffered major degeneration

I.e. moderate to complete breakdown of articular cartilage leaving

exposed bone.

„h No significant adverse side effects may be expected within the short

term i.e. less than 12 months (based on clinical experience) if the

above treatment protocol is adhered to and the Audio Frequency Therapy

Unit operation manual closely followed.

 

 

 

The study was initiated by a private company, BWBGELTECH PTY LTD

seeking assistance from an arthritis support organisation, interested

doctors, and a commercial laboratory.

 

Placebo study conditions were strictly adhered to, with no volunteer

being aware of whether he or she was receiving treatment. Three

treatments per week of three hours duration were administered using

thirty-four Audio Frequency Therapy Units. These pocket sized

computerised devices allowed carefully selected menus of frequency

programs to be applied to each chosen volunteer.

 

All participants were regularly monitored by self-evaluation of pain

on visual analogue scales, which complied with a standard hospital

protocol for monitoring pain in arthritis patients. Also pre and post

study HLB testing was provided by Australian Biologics Testing

Services (Sydney) for seven randomly selected volunteers from the

treated and placebo groups. Similarly, independent post-study

appraisal of each volunteer's condition by their referring General

Practitioner was requested.

 

On completion of the study, the mean value of percentage reduction in

overall pain (of the treated group was 34 percent compared with 13

percent reduction in the untreated group (The mean 13 percent

reduction of pain in the untreated volunteers was generally

attributable to the emotional benefits received by being involved in

the study. This improvement was not evidenced in the blood test

results.

Long term side effects are unknown but may be similar in nature to

TENS therapy. Continuous treatment with Audio Frequency Therapy Units

over twelve months is not recommended.

 

 

After this study was complete, Geoff Baker formed Electromed to build

and market a commercial version of the Audio Frequency Therapy unit

described here. The commercial version is called PET and it is

described on the electromed web site

 

There is a wealth of testimonies on the rife forum website which

testify to the effectiveness of this treatment http://www.rife.de/

 

andmy web site should you wish to know more

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/seventhmoon/orion/

for now

phil

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In , " Klaus " <klausybear wrote:

>

> New guy from central ohio here. I am hoping to enter massage therapy

> as a career( if I can figure out which school to go to lol). I'm

> currently working as a nurses aid in a couple of nursing homes. I

> really feel there is more that we can do for the elderly than the

> seeminly popular drug em and forget em approach.

>

> I look forwar to reading the post in this group

>

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Hello " Ohio "

Have you done much research on the different types of massage that are

out there? That would be a great start and then once you have

determined what it is you would like to offer your clientele, then

search out the school that will offer you the best possible education

in that method of application.

 

Most schools have open houses for you to go in, watch, partake, etc. so

you can get a " feel " for the atmosphere ... this too is extremely

important whenever involving yourself in the Healing Arts (my opinion).

I did much research and " feeling " around before finally deciding on any

of the modalities and schools I attended. The vibe given off can make

or break your interest and enjoyment.

 

Good Luck. Let us know how things go. WELCOME TO THE GROUP ALSO!

Peace & Light, Kathleen

 

www.ahealingmind.com

 

 

, " Klaus " <klausybear

wrote:

>

> New guy from central ohio here. I am hoping to enter massage therapy

> as a career( if I can figure out which school to go to lol). I'm

> currently working as a nurses aid in a couple of nursing homes. I

> really feel there is more that we can do for the elderly than the

> seeminly popular drug em and forget em approach.

>

> I look forwar to reading the post in this group

>

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Yes, go for it.

As you say, the drug-em-and-forget-em approach is not working.

You have the chance to make a difference.

Here's wishing you well.

 

Frank

 

www.therapyessence.com

 

-------------------------

>

> I commend you for seeing that there is more that can be done for the

elderly. They are so often just left to their rooms. I have had the

opportunity to visit many care centers and just see the patients

sitting in the hallways looking very unhappy. Good luck in achieving

your goals.

>

> Carol

>

> Klaus <klausybear wrote:

> New guy from central ohio here. I am hoping to enter massage therapy

> as a career( if I can figure out which school to go to lol). I'm

> currently working as a nurses aid in a couple of nursing homes. I

> really feel there is more that we can do for the elderly than the

> seeminly popular drug em and forget em approach.

>

> I look forwar to reading the post in this group

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Hello John,

 

Welcome!

I'm a Newbie as well.

I have followed Spiritual Alchemy by Luanne Oak's and so know a little on

the subject. Looking forward to learning more from you :0)

 

 

 

Bright Blessings, Love & Light

Lisa xx

----

 

jhr3

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[CrystalHW] Hello

 

Hello All-

 

My Name is John H. Reid III I am a practicing Hermetic Scientist for the

last 25 years or so, specializing in alchemy. Looking forward to learning

from you all and sharing with you too.

 

JHR3

Ora, Lege, et Labora

 

 

 

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Hi all, It's good to see so many new people join us lately. I do have things to say about some of the post topics and questions. I've taken Elavil and Zoloft and isn't Lorazapam the same as Xanax, Kel. I've been there and done that too. Do your deep breathing and meditation. But especially breathing when you panic. We've had a rather tragic death in our family (or close enough). My fiance's sister's brother-in-law died in a very tragic car accident today and his young son is clinging to life on a prayer. I will be back with all of you in a day or too, when things settle down a bit. Welcome to all our new members.Blessings, Renee"Kelly W." <kellykebby wrote: I'm ok thank you. I am going to visit my friend Patti in Columbus Ohio this weekend.

She is in her 60s and a writer, a retired social worker. She contracted polio in the 50s at the age of 12 and is a quadriplegic woman. She can only move two pinky fingers and her head. I love her so much. There is nobody like her on earth. I'm looking forward to spring. I forget where everyone lives except Miss Renee. I live in NW Pa. and the snow coats the ground white forwhat seems to be six months. It's awful. It may be one of the reasons my panic attacks have come back. I'm glad Sherry joined because that allows me to feel more comfortable telling people I do take zoloft. It is my wish to get off of it. And currently the only way I can think to do that is with diet, exercise, meditation... and healing my sick spirit. A psychiatrist once told me that I have a sick spirit, and I should paint. I am an artist. This is how I got through my troubled childhood - by drawing and writing poetry. I don't like to use it like a crutch, but I feel like me when I do those

things.Anyway, hope everyone has a good day. Wish me luck this weekend. I am scared to go to a hotel while I'm having panic attacks at night. I do have Lorazepam but haven't taken it yet. Take care, Kelhypnoc <hypnoc wrote: Hi Sherry and to the new members, wanted to welcome you too, and sorry to hear about your brother, you will have a great support here, we all are friends. I love this nest Thanks to Kel and the rest. By the way how are you kel?? Doreen belsamm <belsamm wrote: Hi kelly and thanks for your welcome to the group. Yes it is Elavil and he was on huge dosages prescribed by the doctor. A little bit of his history, He would have been 38 next month, has had a really troubled life in general. He was my youngest brother and 8 years yonger than me. My mother started searching for help for him when he was 5. He was born in 1968. At that time she was told that the biggest problem she had was that she was 35 when she had him and that meant she was too old to handle an active child. Things went on in his life that I wont bore you with at this point that ended up with him being in jail several times for drug related issues. When he got out this last time about 2.5 yeras

ago he was under medical care having been diagnosed with agoraphobia, severe anxiety disorder, paranoid schizophrenia and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. He was fairly well regulated and while very stressed about being outside he was determined to get better and do what he needed to do to function. At that time he was able to stay with our grandfather who was 90 and in failing health with Lou Gerighs Disease, to care for him. After he had to be placed in a nursing home my brother moved in with my parents and was helping our dad with part of his business that didnt involve bieng around people so much. He was able to help me some in our other retail business and things were really looking up. During this time his medical doctor and his psychiatrist kept changing his medications around and changing dosages and over the last 4 months or so we saw him slipping dramatically. My mother

had been to the doctor with him and told them of the symptoms he was having. They kept either just blaming it on the PTSD or saying hsis meds werent strong enough and upping dosages. By the end he was on Seroquel, Xyprexa, Elivil, Klonopin, Clonadine, and with drs permission benadryl for allergy symptoms he was having and the last week of his life they added in Depakote. No they did not take him OFF of anything or reduce the other dosages. I dont exactally remember dosages of the others but the Elivil he was on 300 mg a day dosage, what I Know NOW is a toxic dosage and was not having any blood level monitoring of any of his meds more often than every 3-4 months if he rememberd to suggest they should do it. So as to the question was it suicide? That is what is listed on his death certificate because from the resaearch I Have done that is the general conclusion in this but it was not. He and my mom

had been to the doctor just that week to discribe his symptoms and the doc told him to take more. Now, as to the rest of the reason I chose this group to join. My other brother and I have both been taking elvil as well, in my case for a very stressful life that isnt going to change any time soon. My dosage however has been 25 mg once a day to sleep. After some of the things I have learned in the last week and a half.. I am no longer taking it. Went off cold turkey which probably wasnt the best idea but I havent had any in the last week so regardless of the way I feel at the moment.. dont want to take any more just to feel better if that makes any sense. So support in my endevor to find natural ways of dealing with life and health is what I am here for. Hope you all can help.Hope this wasnt too long or boring. Sherry ,

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Dear Renee,

 

Sorry to hear about the bad news, I will pray for the

child's well being and fast recovery.

 

Doreen

 

--- Renee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote:

 

> Hi all,

>

> It's good to see so many new people join us

> lately. I do have things to say about some of the

> post topics and questions. I've taken Elavil and

> Zoloft and isn't Lorazapam the same as Xanax, Kel.

> I've been there and done that too. Do your deep

> breathing and meditation. But especially breathing

> when you panic.

>

> We've had a rather tragic death in our family

> (or close enough). My fiance's sister's

> brother-in-law died in a very tragic car accident

> today and his young son is clinging to life on a

> prayer. I will be back with all of you in a day or

> too, when things settle down a bit.

>

> Welcome to all our new members.

>

> Blessings, Renee

>

> " Kelly W. " <kellykebby wrote: I'm ok

> thank you. I am going to visit my friend Patti in

> Columbus Ohio this weekend. She is in her 60s and a

> writer, a retired social worker. She contracted

> polio in the 50s at the age of 12 and is a

> quadriplegic woman. She can only move two pinky

> fingers and her head. I love her so much. There is

> nobody like her on earth.

>

> I'm looking forward to spring. I forget where

> everyone lives except Miss Renee. I live in NW Pa.

> and the snow coats the ground white forwhat seems to

> be six months. It's awful. It may be one of the

> reasons my panic attacks have come back. I'm glad

> Sherry joined because that allows me to feel more

> comfortable telling people I do take zoloft. It is

> my wish to get off of it. And currently the only way

> I can think to do that is with diet, exercise,

> meditation... and healing my sick spirit. A

> psychiatrist once told me that I have a sick spirit,

> and I should paint. I am an artist. This is how I

> got through my troubled childhood - by drawing and

> writing poetry. I don't like to use it like a

> crutch, but I feel like me when I do those things.

>

> Anyway, hope everyone has a good day. Wish me luck

> this weekend. I am scared to go to a hotel while I'm

> having panic attacks at night. I do have Lorazepam

> but haven't taken it yet. Take care, Kel

>

> hypnoc <hypnoc wrote: Hi Sherry

> and to the new members,

>

> wanted to welcome you too, and sorry to hear about

> your brother, you will have a great support here, we

> all are friends.

> I love this nest

> Thanks to Kel and the rest.

> By the way how are you kel??

>

> Doreen

>

>

>

> belsamm <belsamm wrote:

> Hi kelly and thanks for your welcome to the group.

> Yes it is Elavil

> and he was on huge dosages prescribed by the doctor.

> A little bit

> of his history, He would have been 38 next month,

> has had a really

> troubled life in general. He was my youngest

> brother and 8 years

> yonger than me. My mother started searching for

> help for him when

> he was 5. He was born in 1968. At that time she was

> told that the

> biggest problem she had was that she was 35 when she

> had him and

> that meant she was too old to handle an active

> child.

> Things went on in his life that I wont bore you with

> at this point

> that ended up with him being in jail several times

> for drug related

> issues. When he got out this last time about 2.5

> yeras ago he was

> under medical care having been diagnosed with

> agoraphobia, severe

> anxiety disorder, paranoid schizophrenia and Post

> Traumatic Stress

> Disorder. He was fairly well regulated and while

> very stressed

> about being outside he was determined to get better

> and do what he

> needed to do to function. At that time he was able

> to stay with our

> grandfather who was 90 and in failing health with

> Lou Gerighs

> Disease, to care for him. After he had to be placed

> in a nursing

> home my brother moved in with my parents and was

> helping our dad

> with part of his business that didnt involve bieng

> around people so

> much. He was able to help me some in our other

> retail business and

> things were really looking up. During this time his

> medical doctor

> and his psychiatrist kept changing his medications

> around and

> changing dosages and over the last 4 months or so we

> saw him

> slipping dramatically. My mother had been to the

> doctor with him

> and told them of the symptoms he was having. They

> kept either just

> blaming it on the PTSD or saying hsis meds werent

> strong enough and

> upping dosages. By the end he was on Seroquel,

> Xyprexa, Elivil,

> Klonopin, Clonadine, and with drs permission

> benadryl for allergy

> symptoms he was having and the last week of his

> life they added in

> Depakote. No they did not take him OFF of anything

> or reduce the

> other dosages. I dont exactally remember dosages of

> the others but

> the Elivil he was on 300 mg a day dosage, what I

> Know NOW is a toxic

> dosage and was not having any blood level monitoring

> of any of his

> meds more often than every 3-4 months if he

> rememberd to suggest

> they should do it.

> So as to the question was it suicide? That is what

> is listed on his

> death certificate because from the resaearch I Have

> done that is the

> general conclusion in this but it was not. He and

> my mom had been

> to the doctor just that week to discribe his

> symptoms and the doc

> told him to take more.

> Now, as to the rest of the reason I chose this group

> to join. My

> other brother and I have both been taking elvil as

> well, in my case

> for a very stressful life that isnt going to change

> any time soon.

> My dosage however has been 25 mg once a day to

> sleep. After some of

> the things I have learned in the last week and a

> half.. I am no

> longer taking it. Went off cold turkey which

> probably wasnt the

> best idea but I havent had any in the last week so

> regardless of the

> way I feel at the moment.. dont want to take any

> more just to feel

> better if that makes any sense. So support in my

> endevor to find

> natural ways of dealing with life and health is what

> I am here for.

> Hope you all can help.

> Hope this wasnt too long or boring.

> Sherry

>

>

>

>

> , " Kelly W. "

> <kellykebby

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > We have a new member who just lost a brother. the

> > cause of death on his death certificate is listed

> as Amitryptiline

> > intoxication (poisoning). This is Elavil? an

> antidepressant.

> > I am so sorry that your brother died from this. I

> wonder how much

> > he was taking or if it built up and remained in

> his system, or if

> > it was a suicide?

> >

> > Welcome to the group. This is a great bunch of

> people.

> >

> > Kel

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Renee, My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family............... Take Care, Ginahypnoc <hypnoc wrote: Dear Renee,Sorry to hear about the bad news, I will pray for thechild's well being and fast recovery.Doreen--- Renee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote:> Hi all,> > It's good to see so many new people join us> lately. I do have things to say about some of the> post topics and questions. I've taken Elavil and> Zoloft and isn't Lorazapam the same as Xanax, Kel.> I've been there and done that too. Do your deep> breathing and meditation. But especially breathing> when you panic.> > We've had a

rather tragic death in our family> (or close enough). My fiance's sister's> brother-in-law died in a very tragic car accident> today and his young son is clinging to life on a> prayer. I will be back with all of you in a day or> too, when things settle down a bit.> > Welcome to all our new members.> > Blessings, Renee> > "Kelly W." <kellykebby wrote: I'm ok> thank you. I am going to visit my friend Patti in> Columbus Ohio this weekend. She is in her 60s and a> writer, a retired social worker. She contracted> polio in the 50s at the age of 12 and is a> quadriplegic woman. She can only move two pinky> fingers and her head. I love her so much. There is> nobody like her on earth. > > I'm looking forward to spring. I forget where> everyone lives except Miss Renee. I live in NW

Pa.> and the snow coats the ground white forwhat seems to> be six months. It's awful. It may be one of the> reasons my panic attacks have come back. I'm glad> Sherry joined because that allows me to feel more> comfortable telling people I do take zoloft. It is> my wish to get off of it. And currently the only way> I can think to do that is with diet, exercise,> meditation... and healing my sick spirit. A> psychiatrist once told me that I have a sick spirit,> and I should paint. I am an artist. This is how I> got through my troubled childhood - by drawing and> writing poetry. I don't like to use it like a> crutch, but I feel like me when I do those things.> > Anyway, hope everyone has a good day. Wish me luck> this weekend. I am scared to go to a hotel while I'm> having panic attacks at night. I do have Lorazepam> but haven't taken it yet. Take

care, Kel> > hypnoc <hypnoc wrote: Hi Sherry> and to the new members,> > wanted to welcome you too, and sorry to hear about> your brother, you will have a great support here, we> all are friends.> I love this nest> Thanks to Kel and the rest.> By the way how are you kel??> > Doreen> > > > belsamm <belsamm wrote:> Hi kelly and thanks for your welcome to the group.> Yes it is Elavil > and he was on huge dosages prescribed by the doctor.> A little bit > of his history, He would have been 38 next month,> has had a really > troubled life in general. He was my youngest> brother and 8 years > yonger than me.

My mother started searching for> help for him when > he was 5. He was born in 1968. At that time she was> told that the > biggest problem she had was that she was 35 when she> had him and > that meant she was too old to handle an active> child. > Things went on in his life that I wont bore you with> at this point > that ended up with him being in jail several times> for drug related > issues. When he got out this last time about 2.5> yeras ago he was > under medical care having been diagnosed with> agoraphobia, severe > anxiety disorder, paranoid schizophrenia and Post> Traumatic Stress > Disorder. He was fairly well regulated and while> very stressed > about being outside he was determined to get better> and do what he > needed to do to function. At that time he was able> to stay

with our > grandfather who was 90 and in failing health with> Lou Gerighs > Disease, to care for him. After he had to be placed> in a nursing > home my brother moved in with my parents and was> helping our dad > with part of his business that didnt involve bieng> around people so > much. He was able to help me some in our other> retail business and > things were really looking up. During this time his> medical doctor > and his psychiatrist kept changing his medications> around and > changing dosages and over the last 4 months or so we> saw him > slipping dramatically. My mother had been to the> doctor with him > and told them of the symptoms he was having. They> kept either just > blaming it on the PTSD or saying hsis meds werent> strong enough and > upping dosages. By the end he was

on Seroquel,> Xyprexa, Elivil, > Klonopin, Clonadine, and with drs permission> benadryl for allergy > symptoms he was having and the last week of his> life they added in > Depakote. No they did not take him OFF of anything> or reduce the > other dosages. I dont exactally remember dosages of> the others but > the Elivil he was on 300 mg a day dosage, what I> Know NOW is a toxic > dosage and was not having any blood level monitoring> of any of his > meds more often than every 3-4 months if he> rememberd to suggest > they should do it. > So as to the question was it suicide? That is what> is listed on his > death certificate because from the resaearch I Have> done that is the > general conclusion in this but it was not. He and> my mom had been > to the doctor just that week to discribe

his> symptoms and the doc > told him to take more. > Now, as to the rest of the reason I chose this group> to join. My > other brother and I have both been taking elvil as> well, in my case > for a very stressful life that isnt going to change> any time soon. > My dosage however has been 25 mg once a day to> sleep. After some of > the things I have learned in the last week and a> half.. I am no > longer taking it. Went off cold turkey which> probably wasnt the > best idea but I havent had any in the last week so> regardless of the > way I feel at the moment.. dont want to take any> more just to feel > better if that makes any sense. So support in my> endevor to find > natural ways of dealing with life and health is what> I am here for. > Hope you all can help.>

Hope this wasnt too long or boring. > Sherry> > > > > , "Kelly W."> <kellykebby > wrote:> >> > > > We have a new member who just lost a brother. the> > cause of death on his death certificate is listed> as Amitryptiline> > intoxication (poisoning). This is Elavil? an> antidepressant.> > I am so sorry that your brother died from this. I> wonder how much > > he was taking or if it built up and remained in> his system, or if > > it was a suicide? > > > > Welcome to the group. This is a great bunch of> people.> > > > Kel> >> > > > > > > > === message truncated ===I hope this email finds you well... Doreen C. Cohanim MM, C.Ht,

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Dear Renee,

 

 

Sorry to hear the tragic story of your family, my

heart goes on to you and your family.

I will pray for you all.

 

 

take care,

 

Jozefina

 

--- Renee Judkins <msfitnes01 wrote:

 

> Hi all,

>

> It's good to see so many new people join us

> lately. I do have things to say about some of the

> post topics and questions. I've taken Elavil and

> Zoloft and isn't Lorazapam the same as Xanax, Kel.

> I've been there and done that too. Do your deep

> breathing and meditation. But especially breathing

> when you panic.

>

> We've had a rather tragic death in our family

> (or close enough). My fiance's sister's

> brother-in-law died in a very tragic car accident

> today and his young son is clinging to life on a

> prayer. I will be back with all of you in a day or

> too, when things settle down a bit.

>

> Welcome to all our new members.

>

> Blessings, Renee

>

> " Kelly W. " <kellykebby wrote: I'm ok

> thank you. I am going to visit my friend Patti in

> Columbus Ohio this weekend. She is in her 60s and a

> writer, a retired social worker. She contracted

> polio in the 50s at the age of 12 and is a

> quadriplegic woman. She can only move two pinky

> fingers and her head. I love her so much. There is

> nobody like her on earth.

>

> I'm looking forward to spring. I forget where

> everyone lives except Miss Renee. I live in NW Pa.

> and the snow coats the ground white forwhat seems to

> be six months. It's awful. It may be one of the

> reasons my panic attacks have come back. I'm glad

> Sherry joined because that allows me to feel more

> comfortable telling people I do take zoloft. It is

> my wish to get off of it. And currently the only way

> I can think to do that is with diet, exercise,

> meditation... and healing my sick spirit. A

> psychiatrist once told me that I have a sick spirit,

> and I should paint. I am an artist. This is how I

> got through my troubled childhood - by drawing and

> writing poetry. I don't like to use it like a

> crutch, but I feel like me when I do those things.

>

> Anyway, hope everyone has a good day. Wish me luck

> this weekend. I am scared to go to a hotel while I'm

> having panic attacks at night. I do have Lorazepam

> but haven't taken it yet. Take care, Kel

>

> hypnoc <hypnoc wrote: Hi Sherry

> and to the new members,

>

> wanted to welcome you too, and sorry to hear about

> your brother, you will have a great support here, we

> all are friends.

> I love this nest

> Thanks to Kel and the rest.

> By the way how are you kel??

>

> Doreen

>

>

>

> belsamm <belsamm wrote:

> Hi kelly and thanks for your welcome to the group.

> Yes it is Elavil

> and he was on huge dosages prescribed by the doctor.

> A little bit

> of his history, He would have been 38 next month,

> has had a really

> troubled life in general. He was my youngest

> brother and 8 years

> yonger than me. My mother started searching for

> help for him when

> he was 5. He was born in 1968. At that time she was

> told that the

> biggest problem she had was that she was 35 when she

> had him and

> that meant she was too old to handle an active

> child.

> Things went on in his life that I wont bore you with

> at this point

> that ended up with him being in jail several times

> for drug related

> issues. When he got out this last time about 2.5

> yeras ago he was

> under medical care having been diagnosed with

> agoraphobia, severe

> anxiety disorder, paranoid schizophrenia and Post

> Traumatic Stress

> Disorder. He was fairly well regulated and while

> very stressed

> about being outside he was determined to get better

> and do what he

> needed to do to function. At that time he was able

> to stay with our

> grandfather who was 90 and in failing health with

> Lou Gerighs

> Disease, to care for him. After he had to be placed

> in a nursing

> home my brother moved in with my parents and was

> helping our dad

> with part of his business that didnt involve bieng

> around people so

> much. He was able to help me some in our other

> retail business and

> things were really looking up. During this time his

> medical doctor

> and his psychiatrist kept changing his medications

> around and

> changing dosages and over the last 4 months or so we

> saw him

> slipping dramatically. My mother had been to the

> doctor with him

> and told them of the symptoms he was having. They

> kept either just

> blaming it on the PTSD or saying hsis meds werent

> strong enough and

> upping dosages. By the end he was on Seroquel,

> Xyprexa, Elivil,

> Klonopin, Clonadine, and with drs permission

> benadryl for allergy

> symptoms he was having and the last week of his

> life they added in

> Depakote. No they did not take him OFF of anything

> or reduce the

> other dosages. I dont exactally remember dosages of

> the others but

> the Elivil he was on 300 mg a day dosage, what I

> Know NOW is a toxic

> dosage and was not having any blood level monitoring

> of any of his

> meds more often than every 3-4 months if he

> rememberd to suggest

> they should do it.

> So as to the question was it suicide? That is what

> is listed on his

> death certificate because from the resaearch I Have

> done that is the

> general conclusion in this but it was not. He and

> my mom had been

> to the doctor just that week to discribe his

> symptoms and the doc

> told him to take more.

> Now, as to the rest of the reason I chose this group

> to join. My

> other brother and I have both been taking elvil as

> well, in my case

> for a very stressful life that isnt going to change

> any time soon.

> My dosage however has been 25 mg once a day to

> sleep. After some of

> the things I have learned in the last week and a

> half.. I am no

> longer taking it. Went off cold turkey which

> probably wasnt the

> best idea but I havent had any in the last week so

> regardless of the

> way I feel at the moment.. dont want to take any

> more just to feel

> better if that makes any sense. So support in my

> endevor to find

> natural ways of dealing with life and health is what

> I am here for.

> Hope you all can help.

> Hope this wasnt too long or boring.

> Sherry

>

>

>

>

> , " Kelly W. "

> <kellykebby

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > We have a new member who just lost a brother. the

> > cause of death on his death certificate is listed

> as Amitryptiline

> > intoxication (poisoning). This is Elavil? an

> antidepressant.

> > I am so sorry that your brother died from this. I

> wonder how much

> > he was taking or if it built up and remained in

> his system, or if

> > it was a suicide?

> >

> > Welcome to the group. This is a great bunch of

> people.

> >

> > Kel

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello Daphne,

 

This is a good group and I would like to let you know that I am glad that you

joined. I think that we all benefit when we come together and talk about things

that are important to us. Anyway, welcome to the group!

:) Leisel

 

Daphne Bradshaw <laurelnymph wrote:

Hello. Thank you for having this group. It looks like a nice place to continue

learning and healing.

peace,

Daphne

 

 

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Welcome, Mary Precious Wolf....

 

I'm sure that you'll find a lot of interest here. I have actually been

to Bishop, California--I grew up in Los Altos and traveled most of the

state.

 

Many of us on the list have Websites, and you can learn a lot about us

by checking our Websites. Mine is www.scs-matters.com

 

If you find something that would make a good discussion topic, you can

post to the list. If you have a question, you can write off list. The

Internet really can be a marvelous tool.

 

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Dear Mary C,

 

Welcome to the group. Pl. see www.freewebs.com/svswamy

for more information about myself.

 

If you would like to share information about books,

holistic health, spirituality etc. pl. get in touch

with me.

 

With best wishes,

 

Swamy

 

--- Sacred Wolf <preciouswolf wrote:

 

> I am new to this group and have a few facts about me

>

> 1. What is your name? Mary C

>

> 2. How did you become interested in this group? To

> learn and grow in

> my journey.

>

> 3. Are you married? How long? No

>

> 4. Do you have any children? Yes, 1 boy & 2 Girls &

> 8 Grandkids

>

> 5. Where are you from? Bishop, CA

>

> 6. What do you want to learn more about? Everything

>

> 7. How can we improve this group?

>

> 8. Do you have any questions you'd like to have

> answered? Not at the

> moment

>

> 9. Do you have any pets? Yes one kitty called Mr.

> Mau

>

> 10. Do you believe in Life after Death? Yes

>

> If you wish to know more about me, please email me.

> I am also on

> messager

>

> Love, Light & Peace

>

> Mary C aka Preciouswolf

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

in search of truth and with prayers to Govinda to help reach that goal in this

life itself, and with best wishes to you that your goals may be reached,

 

yours sincerely,

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 5/16/2006 1:02:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,

txnightingale101 writes:

 

 

> I bought a

> stone that is transforms negative energy into positive energy

 

Greetings and Welcome Valarie.

 

Selenite is the first one that *springs* to mind for me. It comes in several

varieties and colors and is soft enough to be scratched with the finger nail.

 

Blessings to your Week.

ReNau

 

 

 

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