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Rup Baqaya (baqayarup) has sent you a news article.

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And someone was telling the group that he was right when he said that nothing

will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know whether the worthy wanted

Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of intellect is this which thinks nothing

of 151000 deaths.

 

151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News

 

http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

 

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Sir, doesn't say that they died for Saddam, Iraq has been a

troubled state after the invasion, it's wrong to attribute the tally

to Saddam's death, there is no significance of his death in the world

as you perceived, will be never untill the world's political scenario

remains like it is today.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Rup Baqaya

<baqayarup wrote:

>

>

> Rup Baqaya (baqayarup) has sent you a news article.

> (Email address has not been verified.)

> ---------------------------

> Personal message:

>

> And someone was telling the group that he was right when he said

that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know

whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of

intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.

>

> 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News

>

> http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

>

> ============================================================

> News

> http://news./

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Dear Rup,

 

I too was puzzled how he came to the conclusion that nothing happened

in Iraq, after Saddam's death. That is happening daily unlike earlier,

in fact.

 

Take care,

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

 

Rup Baqaya wrote:

 

 

 

Rup Baqaya (baqayarup ) has

sent you a news article.

(Email address has not been verified.)

-------------------------

Personal message:

 

And someone was telling the group that he was right when he said that

nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know whether

the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of intellect is

this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.

 

151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News

 

http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

 

============================================================

News

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Resp Chandrashekhar Ji,

 

Namaskaar, in Iraq Nobody is protesting Saddam's death and trying to

restore his regime, that has become a country where every group is

fighting for his share in power. it's a different case altogather.

Saddam is no way linked here. So, it has proven wrong that Saddam

will get so much favor that world will face some havoc has been no

where.

 

This is what i said last year and saying today also.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Rup,

>

> I too was puzzled how he came to the conclusion that nothing

happened in

> Iraq, after Saddam's death. That is happening daily unlike earlier,

in fact.

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

> Rup Baqaya wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup <baqayarup%40>) has

> > sent you a news article.

> > (Email address has not been verified.)

> > -------------------------

> > Personal message:

> >

> > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he said

that

> > nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know

whether

> > the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of

intellect is

> > this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.

> >

> > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News

> >

> > http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

> > <http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc>

> >

> > ============================================================

> > News

> > http://news./ <http://news./>

> >

> >

>

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Dear Lalit,

 

I think if you look at the terror attacks in Iraq and the resultant

deaths post Saddam, you will certainly change your views regarding the

death of Saddam having not impacted Iraq. Just look at the figures

before Saddam was executed and after that event.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

litsol wrote:

 

 

Resp Chandrashekhar Ji,

 

Namaskaar, in Iraq Nobody is protesting Saddam's death and trying to

restore his regime, that has become a country where every group is

fighting for his share in power. it's a different case altogather.

Saddam is no way linked here. So, it has proven wrong that Saddam

will get so much favor that world will face some havoc has been no

where.

 

This is what i said last year and saying today also.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Rup,

>

> I too was puzzled how he came to the conclusion that nothing

happened in

> Iraq, after Saddam's death. That is happening daily unlike

earlier,

in fact.

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

> Rup Baqaya wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup <baqayarup%40>)

has

> > sent you a news article.

> > (Email address has not been verified.)

> > -------------------------

> > Personal message:

> >

> > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he

said

that

> > nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know

 

whether

> > the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of

intellect is

> > this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.

> >

> > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO -

News

> >

> > http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

 

> > <http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc>

> >

> > ============================================================

> > News

> > http://news./

<http://news./>

> >

> >

>

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Dear Sir,

 

You are looking at terror attacks from the top of the mountain, pls.

try to analyse the attacks, this is the result of anarchy not the

love for Saddam, may be they remember him also somewhere, but no

group has come for Saddam they are fighting with each other and some

with US military, It's seen that Islamic world lacks loyality and No

body gets aligned to barberic dictators after their death.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> I think if you look at the terror attacks in Iraq and the resultant

> deaths post Saddam, you will certainly change your views regarding

the

> death of Saddam having not impacted Iraq. Just look at the figures

> before Saddam was executed and after that event.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Resp Chandrashekhar Ji,

> >

> > Namaskaar, in Iraq Nobody is protesting Saddam's death and trying

to

> > restore his regime, that has become a country where every group is

> > fighting for his share in power. it's a different case altogather.

> > Saddam is no way linked here. So, it has proven wrong that Saddam

> > will get so much favor that world will face some havoc has been no

> > where.

> >

> > This is what i said last year and saying today also.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rup,

> > >

> > > I too was puzzled how he came to the conclusion that nothing

> > happened in

> > > Iraq, after Saddam's death. That is happening daily unlike

earlier,

> > in fact.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rup Baqaya wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@ <baqayarup%40>) has

> > > > sent you a news article.

> > > > (Email address has not been verified.)

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > Personal message:

> > > >

> > > > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he

said

> > that

> > > > nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know

> > whether

> > > > the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of

> > intellect is

> > > > this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.

> > > >

> > > > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO -

News

> > > >

> > > >

http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

> > <http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc>

> > > >

<http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

> > <http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc>>

> > > >

> > > > ============================================================

> > > > News

> > > > http://news./ <http://news./>

> > <http://news./ <http://news./>>

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Hare rama krishna,

 

dear lalit and rup sir ,

 

saddam was a iraqi hero and arab nationalist leader .

 

I know pre saddam iraq and post saddam iraq and whats happening ,tho i never went there .

 

Thru medias and frnds and direct interactions between ppl of iraq and those who worked their i know saddams ruling period was better than any period in history of modern iraq ,almost 30 yrs not even one percentage of price rise for essential commodities and K G to PG education was free ,allmost all utility servises were free to iraqi citizens ,all items were highly subsidised and complete medical facilities were free there ,Its was what i gathered from the ppl those had been there ,

 

He was a prisoner of his own image and he wanted to be a icon of arab nationalism and a lion for arab individuality .He was a model for arab youths all over world.

 

But he was a obstacle in frnd of many arab kings and was a neccessary evil as they need him to fight islamic revolutions( he was fighting with islamic republic iran when the shah of iran was abdicated ) in the name of religion and same time they hate him a bedoin ( normal national arab ) in the seat of power .As in islam kigdoms and kingships r forbidden and what islam supports in khalifaths ( the leader of islamic blvers ) .As they dont want that kind of trend in oil rich arab countires .So they dont like even their youth think abt any ideology and promotes foot ball,falconry ,camel races horce races car races and wrestlings ( mainly watching only ) .And distribute very fancy amnts .

 

 

The war with kuwait was a mistake or he calculated mistakely as here also he was fighting for the pride of iraqis as kuwait was stealing iraqi oil and his letter to kuwaiti king sent by ambassador was met with spit on the letter sent by a soverign leader of a republic and he dropped in trash in frnd of messngr itself ( i heard its crown prince who do it ) and saddam has left no way except to use his military power .This Kuwait was a part of greater iraq and its brits devide and rule policy made a oil rich area separate and made and known as present kuwait >its like our lost parts of india and u know the history our country and subsequent wars .

 

So death of saddam is a treat to integrity of iraq.As iraq is having so many ethnic grps like shia ,sunny ,kurdish and like .So iraq needs such a leader to stop from disintegration and it was better than mullas controlling each and every corners.I know lot of suicidal attack is done by saddams followers ,But u see america is doing it with a puppet govrment .Even to get capture saddam they declared millions of dollars as prize money and some one close to him only nabbed him .

 

U know what america has accused him ,he was keeping atomic weapons or biological weapons ,but till today why cannot they find one children toy from iraq .So it was like killing a dog calling a mad dog .

 

U must understand phychology of arabs they need very strong leaders other wise this tribal ppl r dangerous and they will start fighting each other .

 

And now see the situation in iraq .in the name of search many r being tortured ,man is fleding to other countries ,woman is doing prostitution,millions become home less and hunger famine ,no medicne ,and very disintegrated condition ,many rich and influential fled to other countries ,poor ppl are raoming to get food and shelter .and prize is going up .

 

all together in saddams time may be few 1000s got killed in the name of political enmity ,u can see even in democratic countires also its happening .But u see what is happening now .

 

I dont hav iraqi chart ,i dont know what is the collectiv fate of this ppl .But once their main problem was abundant food and subsequent fatness ,No parents were worried abt the kids future ,even saddam has to introduce compulsary military training ,even policeman asked to reduce their tummy .Now u see what is happening .

 

He was a great lover of india and indian s .i hav one relative who became frnd with him during the bagdad airport construction and saddam used to visit their and he was sharing food with this indian man .even after he came back to india he used to get birthday cards from him and even once got financial help ( to a hindu ) ,so he is not what media says .

 

U know iraqi many projects were run by india and indians ,Now all gone to american comapnies .Iraqi military was constantly trained by indians .And all area u can see the influence of india their and all indians were treated with respect .Even i find one iraqi noble gentle man who named his sweet daughter binth al hind ( india ) .and in short hind .

 

Even i interacted with other factions like kurds and shia s ,even i saw one man he was pilot ( he was in iraqi army and during gulf war he change sides and seeked political assylam in another arab country and i had 12 hrs chat face to face with him while he was detained by police .As some of my frnds took me their as they were human rights activists.

 

this is my understanding abt iraq and iraqis .

i think this may change the perceptions of many .

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Dear Lalit,> > I think if you look at the terror attacks in Iraq and the resultant > deaths post Saddam, you will certainly change your views regarding the > death of Saddam having not impacted Iraq. Just look at the figures > before Saddam was executed and after that event.> > Chandrashekhar.> > litsol wrote:> >> > Resp Chandrashekhar Ji,> >> > Namaskaar, in Iraq Nobody is protesting Saddam's death and trying to> > restore his regime, that has become a country where every group is> > fighting for his share in power. it's a different case altogather.> > Saddam is no way linked here. So, it has proven wrong that Saddam> > will get so much favor that world will face some havoc has been no> > where.> >> > This is what i said last year and saying today also.> >> > regards,> > Lalit.> >> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing > > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>, Chandrashekhar> > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Rup,> > >> > > I too was puzzled how he came to the conclusion that nothing> > happened in> > > Iraq, after Saddam's death. That is happening daily unlike earlier,> > in fact.> > >> > > Take care,> > > Chandrashekhar.> > >> > >> > >> > > Rup Baqaya wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@ <baqayarup%40>) has> > > > sent you a news article.> > > > (Email address has not been verified.)> > > > -------------------------> > > > Personal message:> > > >> > > > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he said> > that> > > > nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know> > whether> > > > the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of> > intellect is> > > > this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.> > > >> > > > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News> > > >> > > > http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc > > <http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc>> > > > <http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc > > <http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc>>> > > >> > > > ============================================================> > > > News> > > > http://news./ <http://news./> > > <http://news./ <http://news./>>> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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Dear Lalit,

 

It is difficult to attribute everything to anarchy as there appears to

be a well trained group that is doing this.

 

Chandrashekhar.

litsol wrote:

 

 

Dear Sir,

 

You are looking at terror attacks from the top of the mountain, pls.

try to analyse the attacks, this is the result of anarchy not the

love for Saddam, may be they remember him also somewhere, but no

group has come for Saddam they are fighting with each other and some

with US military, It's seen that Islamic world lacks loyality and No

body gets aligned to barberic dictators after their death.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Lalit,

>

> I think if you look at the terror attacks in Iraq and the

resultant

> deaths post Saddam, you will certainly change your views regarding

 

the

> death of Saddam having not impacted Iraq. Just look at the figures

 

> before Saddam was executed and after that event.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> litsol wrote:

> >

> > Resp Chandrashekhar Ji,

> >

> > Namaskaar, in Iraq Nobody is protesting Saddam's death and

trying

to

> > restore his regime, that has become a country where every

group is

> > fighting for his share in power. it's a different case

altogather.

> > Saddam is no way linked here. So, it has proven wrong that

Saddam

> > will get so much favor that world will face some havoc has

been no

> > where.

> >

> > This is what i said last year and saying today also.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

 

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

 

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rup,

> > >

> > > I too was puzzled how he came to the conclusion that

nothing

> > happened in

> > > Iraq, after Saddam's death. That is happening daily

unlike

earlier,

> > in fact.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rup Baqaya wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@ <baqayarup%40>)

has

> > > > sent you a news article.

> > > > (Email address has not been verified.)

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > Personal message:

> > > >

> > > > And someone was telling the group that he was right

when he

said

> > that

> > > > nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I

don't know

> > whether

> > > > the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What

kind of

> > intellect is

> > > > this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.

> > > >

> > > > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO

-

News

> > > >

> > > >

http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

 

> > <http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc>

> > > >

<http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

 

> > <http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc>>

> > > >

> > > > ============================================================

> > > > News

> > > > http://news./ <http://news./>

 

> > <http://news./

<http://news./>>

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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(L)alit (I)s (T)otally (S)uppressor (O)f (L)ogic

hence he is LITSOL

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Rup Baqaya

<baqayarup wrote:

>

>

> Rup Baqaya (baqayarup) has sent you a news article.

> (Email address has not been verified.)

> ---------------------------

> Personal message:

>

> And someone was telling the group that he was right when he said

that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know

whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of

intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.

>

> 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News

>

> http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

>

> ============================================================

> News

> http://news./

>

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Dear Lalit,

 

Namaste,

 

I may be wrong in assessing you but it has no harm to consult a

psychiatrist rightnow. If he says you are ok, it is too good but in

case you need his help to remove the personality disorder, you should

try to remove it. You offen indulge with people known to you. You try

to reveal the facts publicly what the person has told you personally.

It is really deplorable.

 

You may be smarter than me in your opinion. But I never told you that

I am smarter than you.

 

You may ask Baqaya sir, I never tried to contact him persoanlly or

develop relations. Secondly Income Tax Department is a very large

department. There are eleven Commissioners of Income Tax only at

Kanpur. I have been posted with many Chief CIT and all of them liked

me due to my work not for bootposlishing. You may ask Baqaya sir to

confirm it from their batchmates. I have worked with two Chief

commmissioners of the same batch(Panta Saheb and B.K. Sri Saheb.

 

Further I am in the department where all people come for assessment

whether they are mafia or religious people. So we come in contact

with all types of people from society. I can not deny to talk to a

assessee whether he is mafia or religious person.

 

If I have a family business, what is the problem in it?

 

Finally Either you behave soemtimes like a mad person or you are a

very cunning and opportunist person because you are not ready to

accept my sincerity shown towards you. I can claim it that you are

zero at Sadhana otherwise a sadhak must have come to know about the

real feeling in my heart. You are a big O at Sadhana. You are big

fraud if you are not accepting my affection towards you.

 

I will never like to discuss anything with you if you continue to use

such a bad language for anyone.

 

You may ban me because you have right to do so.

 

regards

sushil dikshit

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sanat2221 "

<sanatkumar_jain wrote:

>

> (L)alit (I)s (T)otally (S)uppressor (O)f (L)ogic

> hence he is LITSOL

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Rup Baqaya

> <baqayarup@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@) has sent you a news article.

> > (Email address has not been verified.)

> > ---------------------------

> > Personal message:

> >

> > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he said

> that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know

> whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of

> intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.

> >

> > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News

> >

> > http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

> >

> > ============================================================

> > News

> > http://news./

> >

>

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Dear Sanat,

 

I successfully suppressed ur dirty mission to defame vedic astrology.

I m happy for it, if 100 more people like u get togather, I wont care

to kick u with the power needed to kick out 100 such people.

 

~Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sanat2221 "

<sanatkumar_jain wrote:

>

> (L)alit (I)s (T)otally (S)uppressor (O)f (L)ogic

> hence he is LITSOL

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Rup Baqaya

> <baqayarup@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@) has sent you a news article.

> > (Email address has not been verified.)

> > ---------------------------

> > Personal message:

> >

> > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he said

> that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't know

> whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of

> intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.

> >

> > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News

> >

> > http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

> >

> > ============================================================

> > News

> > http://news./

> >

>

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LITSOL

 

A MAD MAN DOES NOT CARE FOR EVEN A CRORE OF PEOPLE SO 100 IS TOO LESS

FOR YOU.

 

TRY TO GET TREATED YOURSELF AT SOME PSYCHIATRIST CENTER.

 

SUSHIL DIKSHIT

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol "

<litsol wrote:

>

> Dear Sanat,

>

> I successfully suppressed ur dirty mission to defame vedic

astrology.

> I m happy for it, if 100 more people like u get togather, I wont

care

> to kick u with the power needed to kick out 100 such people.

>

> ~Lalit.

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sanat2221 "

> <sanatkumar_jain@> wrote:

> >

> > (L)alit (I)s (T)otally (S)uppressor (O)f (L)ogic

> > hence he is LITSOL

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Rup Baqaya

> > <baqayarup@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Rup Baqaya (baqayarup@) has sent you a news article.

> > > (Email address has not been verified.)

> > > ---------------------------

> > > Personal message:

> > >

> > > And someone was telling the group that he was right when he

said

> > that nothing will happen in Iraq after Saddam's death.I don't

know

> > whether the worthy wanted Iraq to explode in one day.What kind of

> > intellect is this which thinks nothing of 151000 deaths.

> > >

> > > 151,000 Iraqis killed since U.S.-led invasion: WHO - News

> > >

> > > http://news./s/nm/20080110/wl_nm/iraq_deaths_survey_dc

> > >

> > > ============================================================

> > > News

> > > http://news./

> > >

> >

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Dear Sunil Ji,

 

Namaskaar, I did read this post today when i m relatively free, U

have stated the true scene of the Iraq.

 

We are aware what has happened in Iraq before, during and after

Saddam's regime, only thing is the prediction as well as preception

of Rup Sir, was wrong that Saddam's death will create an havoc in the

world.

 

I said those days in 2006 - 2007, that havoc doesnt come this way,

nothing will happen to the world, Saddam will be a matter internal to

Iraq.

 

I was trying to highlight what leads us to think in wrong direction ..

If we are not spiritual, we loose our eyesight as well as our worth,

wisdom is a gift of spirituality.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare rama krishna,

>

>

>

> dear lalit and rup sir ,

>

>

>

> saddam was a iraqi hero and arab nationalist leader .

>

>

>

> I know pre saddam iraq and post saddam iraq and whats

happening ,tho i

> never went there .

>

>

>

> Thru medias and frnds and direct interactions between ppl of iraq

and

> those who worked their i know saddams ruling period was better than

any

> period in history of modern iraq ,almost 30 yrs not even one

percentage

> of price rise for essential commodities and K G to PG education was

free

> ,allmost all utility servises were free to iraqi citizens ,all items

> were highly subsidised and complete medical facilities were free

there

> ,Its was what i gathered from the ppl those had been there ,

>

>

>

> He was a prisoner of his own image and he wanted to be a icon of

arab

> nationalism and a lion for arab individuality .He was a model for

arab

> youths all over world.

>

>

>

> But he was a obstacle in frnd of many arab kings and was a

neccessary

> evil as they need him to fight islamic revolutions( he was fighting

with

> islamic republic iran when the shah of iran was abdicated ) in the

name

> of religion and same time they hate him a bedoin ( normal national

arab

> ) in the seat of power .As in islam kigdoms and kingships r

forbidden

> and what islam supports in khalifaths ( the leader of islamic

blvers )

> .As they dont want that kind of trend in oil rich arab countires .So

> they dont like even their youth think abt any ideology and promotes

foot

> ball,falconry ,camel races horce races car races and wrestlings (

mainly

> watching only ) .And distribute very fancy amnts .

>

>

>

>

>

> The war with kuwait was a mistake or he calculated mistakely as here

> also he was fighting for the pride of iraqis as kuwait was stealing

> iraqi oil and his letter to kuwaiti king sent by ambassador was met

with

> spit on the letter sent by a soverign leader of a republic and he

> dropped in trash in frnd of messngr itself ( i heard its crown

prince

> who do it ) and saddam has left no way except to use his military

power

> .This Kuwait was a part of greater iraq and its brits devide and

rule

> policy made a oil rich area separate and made and known as present

> kuwait >its like our lost parts of india and u know the history our

> country and subsequent wars .

>

>

>

> So death of saddam is a treat to integrity of iraq.As iraq is

having so

> many ethnic grps like shia ,sunny ,kurdish and like .So iraq needs

such

> a leader to stop from disintegration and it was better than mullas

> controlling each and every corners.I know lot of suicidal attack is

done

> by saddams followers ,But u see america is doing it with a puppet

> govrment .Even to get capture saddam they declared millions of

dollars

> as prize money and some one close to him only nabbed him .

>

>

>

> U know what america has accused him ,he was keeping atomic weapons

or

> biological weapons ,but till today why cannot they find one

children toy

> from iraq .So it was like killing a dog calling a mad dog .

>

>

>

> U must understand phychology of arabs they need very strong leaders

> other wise this tribal ppl r dangerous and they will start fighting

each

> other .

>

>

>

> And now see the situation in iraq .in the name of search many r

being

> tortured ,man is fleding to other countries ,woman is doing

> prostitution,millions become home less and hunger famine ,no medicne

> ,and very disintegrated condition ,many rich and influential fled to

> other countries ,poor ppl are raoming to get food and shelter .and

prize

> is going up .

>

>

>

> all together in saddams time may be few 1000s got killed in the

name of

> political enmity ,u can see even in democratic countires also its

> happening .But u see what is happening now .

>

>

>

> I dont hav iraqi chart ,i dont know what is the collectiv fate of

this

> ppl .But once their main problem was abundant food and subsequent

> fatness ,No parents were worried abt the kids future ,even saddam

has to

> introduce compulsary military training ,even policeman asked to

reduce

> their tummy .Now u see what is happening .

>

>

>

> He was a great lover of india and indian s .i hav one relative who

> became frnd with him during the bagdad airport construction and

saddam

> used to visit their and he was sharing food with this indian

man .even

> after he came back to india he used to get birthday cards from him

and

> even once got financial help ( to a hindu ) ,so he is not what media

> says .

>

>

>

> U know iraqi many projects were run by india and indians ,Now all

gone

> to american comapnies .Iraqi military was constantly trained by

indians

> .And all area u can see the influence of india their and all indians

> were treated with respect .Even i find one iraqi noble gentle man

who

> named his sweet daughter binth al hind ( india ) .and in short

hind .

>

>

>

> Even i interacted with other factions like kurds and shia s ,even i

saw

> one man he was pilot ( he was in iraqi army and during gulf war he

> change sides and seeked political assylam in another arab country

and i

> had 12 hrs chat face to face with him while he was detained by

police

> .As some of my frnds took me their as they were human rights

activists.

>

>

>

> this is my understanding abt iraq and iraqis .

>

> i think this may change the perceptions of many .

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

>

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hare ramakrishna ,

dear lalit ,

 

i was not mentioning anything abt your talk between rup sir .

 

I was just pointing every body s attention to poor people of Iraq .Ya the fall of Iraq has given this unipolar world a new direction .Now no leader in oil rich countries who can be their leader .And american army is every where and all govtments are paying for pre war or post war expenditure .Esp saudi arabia .

 

And i think Lord saniswara is taking its role .He is in leo sign and a sign of satya yuga ,so the american economy is in deep trouble .All the world is going for a lasting change .

 

Who will take lead from US ,is it china or european union or gulf ( GCC countries -a council of gulf countries which may emerge like EU ) .Just wait till olympics finished in china .Is india is prepared than having a festive mood of speculativ investments creating world class billianairs .Is our growth is over all devlpment ?

 

All the 3 are trying to shake off the american yoke .We will see it in coming 30 yrs of revolution of sani .

 

Yes spirituality is food for the soul ,i do agree with u .Even astrology without spirituality is like a living body without sense of organs .Like some body in coma .

 

regrds sunil nair .

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> Dear Sunil Ji,> > Namaskaar, I did read this post today when i m relatively free, U > have stated the true scene of the Iraq.> > We are aware what has happened in Iraq before, during and after > Saddam's regime, only thing is the prediction as well as preception > of Rup Sir, was wrong that Saddam's death will create an havoc in the > world.> > I said those days in 2006 - 2007, that havoc doesnt come this way, > nothing will happen to the world, Saddam will be a matter internal to > Iraq.> > I was trying to highlight what leads us to think in wrong direction ..> If we are not spiritual, we loose our eyesight as well as our worth, > wisdom is a gift of spirituality.> > regards,> Lalit.> > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna,> > > > > > > > dear lalit and rup sir ,> > > > > > > > saddam was a iraqi hero and arab nationalist leader .> > > > > > > > I know pre saddam iraq and post saddam iraq and whats > happening ,tho i> > never went there .> > > > > > > > Thru medias and frnds and direct interactions between ppl of iraq > and> > those who worked their i know saddams ruling period was better than > any> > period in history of modern iraq ,almost 30 yrs not even one > percentage> > of price rise for essential commodities and K G to PG education was > free> > ,allmost all utility servises were free to iraqi citizens ,all items> > were highly subsidised and complete medical facilities were free > there> > ,Its was what i gathered from the ppl those had been there ,> > > > > > > > He was a prisoner of his own image and he wanted to be a icon of > arab> > nationalism and a lion for arab individuality .He was a model for > arab> > youths all over world.> > > > > > > > But he was a obstacle in frnd of many arab kings and was a > neccessary> > evil as they need him to fight islamic revolutions( he was fighting > with> > islamic republic iran when the shah of iran was abdicated ) in the > name> > of religion and same time they hate him a bedoin ( normal national > arab> > ) in the seat of power .As in islam kigdoms and kingships r > forbidden> > and what islam supports in khalifaths ( the leader of islamic > blvers )> > .As they dont want that kind of trend in oil rich arab countires .So> > they dont like even their youth think abt any ideology and promotes > foot> > ball,falconry ,camel races horce races car races and wrestlings ( > mainly> > watching only ) .And distribute very fancy amnts .> > > > > > > > > > > > The war with kuwait was a mistake or he calculated mistakely as here> > also he was fighting for the pride of iraqis as kuwait was stealing> > iraqi oil and his letter to kuwaiti king sent by ambassador was met > with> > spit on the letter sent by a soverign leader of a republic and he> > dropped in trash in frnd of messngr itself ( i heard its crown > prince> > who do it ) and saddam has left no way except to use his military > power> > .This Kuwait was a part of greater iraq and its brits devide and > rule> > policy made a oil rich area separate and made and known as present> > kuwait >its like our lost parts of india and u know the history our> > country and subsequent wars .> > > > > > > > So death of saddam is a treat to integrity of iraq.As iraq is > having so> > many ethnic grps like shia ,sunny ,kurdish and like .So iraq needs > such> > a leader to stop from disintegration and it was better than mullas> > controlling each and every corners.I know lot of suicidal attack is > done> > by saddams followers ,But u see america is doing it with a puppet> > govrment .Even to get capture saddam they declared millions of > dollars> > as prize money and some one close to him only nabbed him .> > > > > > > > U know what america has accused him ,he was keeping atomic weapons > or> > biological weapons ,but till today why cannot they find one > children toy> > from iraq .So it was like killing a dog calling a mad dog .> > > > > > > > U must understand phychology of arabs they need very strong leaders> > other wise this tribal ppl r dangerous and they will start fighting > each> > other .> > > > > > > > And now see the situation in iraq .in the name of search many r > being> > tortured ,man is fleding to other countries ,woman is doing> > prostitution,millions become home less and hunger famine ,no medicne> > ,and very disintegrated condition ,many rich and influential fled to> > other countries ,poor ppl are raoming to get food and shelter .and > prize> > is going up .> > > > > > > > all together in saddams time may be few 1000s got killed in the > name of> > political enmity ,u can see even in democratic countires also its> > happening .But u see what is happening now .> > > > > > > > I dont hav iraqi chart ,i dont know what is the collectiv fate of > this> > ppl .But once their main problem was abundant food and subsequent> > fatness ,No parents were worried abt the kids future ,even saddam > has to> > introduce compulsary military training ,even policeman asked to > reduce> > their tummy .Now u see what is happening .> > > > > > > > He was a great lover of india and indian s .i hav one relative who> > became frnd with him during the bagdad airport construction and > saddam> > used to visit their and he was sharing food with this indian > man .even> > after he came back to india he used to get birthday cards from him > and> > even once got financial help ( to a hindu ) ,so he is not what media> > says .> > > > > > > > U know iraqi many projects were run by india and indians ,Now all > gone> > to american comapnies .Iraqi military was constantly trained by > indians> > .And all area u can see the influence of india their and all indians> > were treated with respect .Even i find one iraqi noble gentle man > who> > named his sweet daughter binth al hind ( india ) .and in short > hind .> > > > > > > > Even i interacted with other factions like kurds and shia s ,even i > saw> > one man he was pilot ( he was in iraqi army and during gulf war he> > change sides and seeked political assylam in another arab country > and i> > had 12 hrs chat face to face with him while he was detained by > police> > .As some of my frnds took me their as they were human rights > activists.> > > > > > > > this is my understanding abt iraq and iraqis .> > > > i think this may change the perceptions of many .> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

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Sunil Ji,

 

Namaskaar, If what u r saying is true, I will add, in satya yuga

there used to be no single emperor, Let the treta come, and if our

indian people could leave their inner selfishness, simply we wil lead

the world. we should lead coz we only are enriched with tapas of

spirituality, we wont do injustice to any body.

 

But china is very clever, see, how they responded to Manmohan Sigh's

visit, Gave a signal to support india in getting chair in the

security counsel of UNO (not the actual support, didnt form any

written proposal), they know what we are craving for so they are very

clear on how to use us for their interests,unfortuanetly, I m not in

PM's office.

 

:)

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare ramakrishna ,

>

> dear lalit ,

>

>

>

> i was not mentioning anything abt your talk between rup sir .

>

>

>

> I was just pointing every body s attention to poor people of

Iraq .Ya

> the fall of Iraq has given this unipolar world a new direction .Now

no

> leader in oil rich countries who can be their leader .And american

army

> is every where and all govtments are paying for pre war or post war

> expenditure .Esp saudi arabia .

>

>

>

> And i think Lord saniswara is taking its role .He is in leo sign

and a

> sign of satya yuga ,so the american economy is in deep trouble .All

the

> world is going for a lasting change .

>

>

>

> Who will take lead from US ,is it china or european union or gulf

(

> GCC countries -a council of gulf countries which may emerge like

EU )

> .Just wait till olympics finished in china .Is india is prepared

than

> having a festive mood of speculativ investments creating world class

> billianairs .Is our growth is over all devlpment ?

>

>

>

> All the 3 are trying to shake off the american yoke .We will see it

in

> coming 30 yrs of revolution of sani .

>

>

>

> Yes spirituality is food for the soul ,i do agree with u .Even

astrology

> without spirituality is like a living body without sense of

organs .Like

> some body in coma .

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair .

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

>

>

>

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " litsol " <litsol@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunil Ji,

> >

> > Namaskaar, I did read this post today when i m relatively free, U

> > have stated the true scene of the Iraq.

> >

> > We are aware what has happened in Iraq before, during and after

> > Saddam's regime, only thing is the prediction as well as

preception

> > of Rup Sir, was wrong that Saddam's death will create an havoc in

the

> > world.

> >

> > I said those days in 2006 - 2007, that havoc doesnt come this way,

> > nothing will happen to the world, Saddam will be a matter

internal to

> > Iraq.

> >

> > I was trying to highlight what leads us to think in wrong

direction ..

> > If we are not spiritual, we loose our eyesight as well as our

worth,

> > wisdom is a gift of spirituality.

> >

> > regards,

> > Lalit.

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " sunil nair "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > dear lalit and rup sir ,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > saddam was a iraqi hero and arab nationalist leader .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I know pre saddam iraq and post saddam iraq and whats

> > happening ,tho i

> > > never went there .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thru medias and frnds and direct interactions between ppl of

iraq

> > and

> > > those who worked their i know saddams ruling period was better

than

> > any

> > > period in history of modern iraq ,almost 30 yrs not even one

> > percentage

> > > of price rise for essential commodities and K G to PG education

was

> > free

> > > ,allmost all utility servises were free to iraqi citizens ,all

items

> > > were highly subsidised and complete medical facilities were free

> > there

> > > ,Its was what i gathered from the ppl those had been there ,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > He was a prisoner of his own image and he wanted to be a icon of

> > arab

> > > nationalism and a lion for arab individuality .He was a model

for

> > arab

> > > youths all over world.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > But he was a obstacle in frnd of many arab kings and was a

> > neccessary

> > > evil as they need him to fight islamic revolutions( he was

fighting

> > with

> > > islamic republic iran when the shah of iran was abdicated ) in

the

> > name

> > > of religion and same time they hate him a bedoin ( normal

national

> > arab

> > > ) in the seat of power .As in islam kigdoms and kingships r

> > forbidden

> > > and what islam supports in khalifaths ( the leader of islamic

> > blvers )

> > > .As they dont want that kind of trend in oil rich arab

countires .So

> > > they dont like even their youth think abt any ideology and

promotes

> > foot

> > > ball,falconry ,camel races horce races car races and wrestlings

(

> > mainly

> > > watching only ) .And distribute very fancy amnts .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The war with kuwait was a mistake or he calculated mistakely as

here

> > > also he was fighting for the pride of iraqis as kuwait was

stealing

> > > iraqi oil and his letter to kuwaiti king sent by ambassador was

met

> > with

> > > spit on the letter sent by a soverign leader of a republic and

he

> > > dropped in trash in frnd of messngr itself ( i heard its crown

> > prince

> > > who do it ) and saddam has left no way except to use his

military

> > power

> > > .This Kuwait was a part of greater iraq and its brits devide and

> > rule

> > > policy made a oil rich area separate and made and known as

present

> > > kuwait >its like our lost parts of india and u know the history

our

> > > country and subsequent wars .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > So death of saddam is a treat to integrity of iraq.As iraq is

> > having so

> > > many ethnic grps like shia ,sunny ,kurdish and like .So iraq

needs

> > such

> > > a leader to stop from disintegration and it was better than

mullas

> > > controlling each and every corners.I know lot of suicidal

attack is

> > done

> > > by saddams followers ,But u see america is doing it with a

puppet

> > > govrment .Even to get capture saddam they declared millions of

> > dollars

> > > as prize money and some one close to him only nabbed him .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > U know what america has accused him ,he was keeping atomic

weapons

> > or

> > > biological weapons ,but till today why cannot they find one

> > children toy

> > > from iraq .So it was like killing a dog calling a mad dog .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > U must understand phychology of arabs they need very strong

leaders

> > > other wise this tribal ppl r dangerous and they will start

fighting

> > each

> > > other .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > And now see the situation in iraq .in the name of search many r

> > being

> > > tortured ,man is fleding to other countries ,woman is doing

> > > prostitution,millions become home less and hunger famine ,no

medicne

> > > ,and very disintegrated condition ,many rich and influential

fled to

> > > other countries ,poor ppl are raoming to get food and

shelter .and

> > prize

> > > is going up .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > all together in saddams time may be few 1000s got killed in the

> > name of

> > > political enmity ,u can see even in democratic countires also

its

> > > happening .But u see what is happening now .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I dont hav iraqi chart ,i dont know what is the collectiv fate

of

> > this

> > > ppl .But once their main problem was abundant food and

subsequent

> > > fatness ,No parents were worried abt the kids future ,even

saddam

> > has to

> > > introduce compulsary military training ,even policeman asked to

> > reduce

> > > their tummy .Now u see what is happening .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > He was a great lover of india and indian s .i hav one relative

who

> > > became frnd with him during the bagdad airport construction and

> > saddam

> > > used to visit their and he was sharing food with this indian

> > man .even

> > > after he came back to india he used to get birthday cards from

him

> > and

> > > even once got financial help ( to a hindu ) ,so he is not what

media

> > > says .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > U know iraqi many projects were run by india and indians ,Now

all

> > gone

> > > to american comapnies .Iraqi military was constantly trained by

> > indians

> > > .And all area u can see the influence of india their and all

indians

> > > were treated with respect .Even i find one iraqi noble gentle

man

> > who

> > > named his sweet daughter binth al hind ( india ) .and in short

> > hind .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Even i interacted with other factions like kurds and shia

s ,even i

> > saw

> > > one man he was pilot ( he was in iraqi army and during gulf war

he

> > > change sides and seeked political assylam in another arab

country

> > and i

> > > had 12 hrs chat face to face with him while he was detained by

> > police

> > > .As some of my frnds took me their as they were human rights

> > activists.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > this is my understanding abt iraq and iraqis .

> > >

> > > i think this may change the perceptions of many .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hare rama krishna ,

dear lalit .

 

yes ,we can expect the best .

 

India the venus dasa is going to be over by 2009 august and next is sun dasa -the 4th lord in 3rd house in indian independence chart .

 

4th house shows infra structure ,building s like this also vehicles ,since its in 3rd may be now we will change or we hav to change those strategies Now we r following to power generation and infrastructer and since the rasi is one of the kama trikonas ,even tho spiritual tendencies are there in chart we will go for right direction in terms of progress than just following a world trend ,its what i blv .

 

I think the end period of venus -ketu starting from june 2008 will pave the way for the trend ,tho ketu is in marakastan .

 

Surely this will be a turning point .But this time i think we will see the reality than simply going by the trend .

 

regds sunil nair .

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

 

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> Sunil Ji,> > Namaskaar, If what u r saying is true, I will add, in satya yuga > there used to be no single emperor, Let the treta come, and if our > indian people could leave their inner selfishness, simply we wil lead > the world. we should lead coz we only are enriched with tapas of > spirituality, we wont do injustice to any body.> > But china is very clever, see, how they responded to Manmohan Sigh's > visit, Gave a signal to support india in getting chair in the > security counsel of UNO (not the actual support, didnt form any > written proposal), they know what we are craving for so they are very > clear on how to use us for their interests,unfortuanetly, I m not in > PM's office.> > :)> > regards,> Lalit.> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna ,> > > > dear lalit ,> > > > > > > > i was not mentioning anything abt your talk between rup sir .> > > > > > > > I was just pointing every body s attention to poor people of > Iraq .Ya> > the fall of Iraq has given this unipolar world a new direction .Now > no> > leader in oil rich countries who can be their leader .And american > army> > is every where and all govtments are paying for pre war or post war> > expenditure .Esp saudi arabia .> > > > > > > > And i think Lord saniswara is taking its role .He is in leo sign > and a> > sign of satya yuga ,so the american economy is in deep trouble .All > the> > world is going for a lasting change .> > > > > > > > Who will take lead from US ,is it china or european union or gulf > (> > GCC countries -a council of gulf countries which may emerge like > EU )> > .Just wait till olympics finished in china .Is india is prepared > than> > having a festive mood of speculativ investments creating world class> > billianairs .Is our growth is over all devlpment ?> > > > > > > > All the 3 are trying to shake off the american yoke .We will see it > in> > coming 30 yrs of revolution of sani .> > > > > > > > Yes spirituality is food for the soul ,i do agree with u .Even > astrology> > without spirituality is like a living body without sense of > organs .Like> > some body in coma .> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair .> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > > > > > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "litsol" <litsol@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil Ji,> > >> > > Namaskaar, I did read this post today when i m relatively free, U> > > have stated the true scene of the Iraq.> > >> > > We are aware what has happened in Iraq before, during and after> > > Saddam's regime, only thing is the prediction as well as > preception> > > of Rup Sir, was wrong that Saddam's death will create an havoc in > the> > > world.> > >> > > I said those days in 2006 - 2007, that havoc doesnt come this way,> > > nothing will happen to the world, Saddam will be a matter > internal to> > > Iraq.> > >> > > I was trying to highlight what leads us to think in wrong > direction ..> > > If we are not spiritual, we loose our eyesight as well as our > worth,> > > wisdom is a gift of spirituality.> > >> > > regards,> > > Lalit.> > >> > >> > >> > > Vedic Astrologyandhealing , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hare rama krishna,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > dear lalit and rup sir ,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > saddam was a iraqi hero and arab nationalist leader .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I know pre saddam iraq and post saddam iraq and whats> > > happening ,tho i> > > > never went there .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Thru medias and frnds and direct interactions between ppl of > iraq> > > and> > > > those who worked their i know saddams ruling period was better > than> > > any> > > > period in history of modern iraq ,almost 30 yrs not even one> > > percentage> > > > of price rise for essential commodities and K G to PG education > was> > > free> > > > ,allmost all utility servises were free to iraqi citizens ,all > items> > > > were highly subsidised and complete medical facilities were free> > > there> > > > ,Its was what i gathered from the ppl those had been there ,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > He was a prisoner of his own image and he wanted to be a icon of> > > arab> > > > nationalism and a lion for arab individuality .He was a model > for> > > arab> > > > youths all over world.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > But he was a obstacle in frnd of many arab kings and was a> > > neccessary> > > > evil as they need him to fight islamic revolutions( he was > fighting> > > with> > > > islamic republic iran when the shah of iran was abdicated ) in > the> > > name> > > > of religion and same time they hate him a bedoin ( normal > national> > > arab> > > > ) in the seat of power .As in islam kigdoms and kingships r> > > forbidden> > > > and what islam supports in khalifaths ( the leader of islamic> > > blvers )> > > > .As they dont want that kind of trend in oil rich arab > countires .So> > > > they dont like even their youth think abt any ideology and > promotes> > > foot> > > > ball,falconry ,camel races horce races car races and wrestlings > (> > > mainly> > > > watching only ) .And distribute very fancy amnts .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The war with kuwait was a mistake or he calculated mistakely as > here> > > > also he was fighting for the pride of iraqis as kuwait was > stealing> > > > iraqi oil and his letter to kuwaiti king sent by ambassador was > met> > > with> > > > spit on the letter sent by a soverign leader of a republic and > he> > > > dropped in trash in frnd of messngr itself ( i heard its crown> > > prince> > > > who do it ) and saddam has left no way except to use his > military> > > power> > > > .This Kuwait was a part of greater iraq and its brits devide and> > > rule> > > > policy made a oil rich area separate and made and known as > present> > > > kuwait >its like our lost parts of india and u know the history > our> > > > country and subsequent wars .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So death of saddam is a treat to integrity of iraq.As iraq is> > > having so> > > > many ethnic grps like shia ,sunny ,kurdish and like .So iraq > needs> > > such> > > > a leader to stop from disintegration and it was better than > mullas> > > > controlling each and every corners.I know lot of suicidal > attack is> > > done> > > > by saddams followers ,But u see america is doing it with a > puppet> > > > govrment .Even to get capture saddam they declared millions of> > > dollars> > > > as prize money and some one close to him only nabbed him .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > U know what america has accused him ,he was keeping atomic > weapons> > > or> > > > biological weapons ,but till today why cannot they find one> > > children toy> > > > from iraq .So it was like killing a dog calling a mad dog .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > U must understand phychology of arabs they need very strong > leaders> > > > other wise this tribal ppl r dangerous and they will start > fighting> > > each> > > > other .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > And now see the situation in iraq .in the name of search many r> > > being> > > > tortured ,man is fleding to other countries ,woman is doing> > > > prostitution,millions become home less and hunger famine ,no > medicne> > > > ,and very disintegrated condition ,many rich and influential > fled to> > > > other countries ,poor ppl are raoming to get food and > shelter .and> > > prize> > > > is going up .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > all together in saddams time may be few 1000s got killed in the> > > name of> > > > political enmity ,u can see even in democratic countires also > its> > > > happening .But u see what is happening now .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I dont hav iraqi chart ,i dont know what is the collectiv fate > of> > > this> > > > ppl .But once their main problem was abundant food and > subsequent> > > > fatness ,No parents were worried abt the kids future ,even > saddam> > > has to> > > > introduce compulsary military training ,even policeman asked to> > > reduce> > > > their tummy .Now u see what is happening .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > He was a great lover of india and indian s .i hav one relative > who> > > > became frnd with him during the bagdad airport construction and> > > saddam> > > > used to visit their and he was sharing food with this indian> > > man .even> > > > after he came back to india he used to get birthday cards from > him> > > and> > > > even once got financial help ( to a hindu ) ,so he is not what > media> > > > says .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > U know iraqi many projects were run by india and indians ,Now > all> > > gone> > > > to american comapnies .Iraqi military was constantly trained by> > > indians> > > > .And all area u can see the influence of india their and all > indians> > > > were treated with respect .Even i find one iraqi noble gentle > man> > > who> > > > named his sweet daughter binth al hind ( india ) .and in short> > > hind .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Even i interacted with other factions like kurds and shia > s ,even i> > > saw> > > > one man he was pilot ( he was in iraqi army and during gulf war > he> > > > change sides and seeked political assylam in another arab > country> > > and i> > > > had 12 hrs chat face to face with him while he was detained by> > > police> > > > .As some of my frnds took me their as they were human rights> > > activists.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > this is my understanding abt iraq and iraqis .> > > >> > > > i think this may change the perceptions of many .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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