Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Ramesh, I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the different levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it is clear that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana would you strengten Shani, karak of 12th house? It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be strengthened, what about other things? There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their different effects, as well as DIFFERENT remedial measures for each problem Bese wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.com On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani15. rujan 2007 18:05 Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says “He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house.” Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings this point to attention sohamsa/message/12687it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. Swati On 9/15/07, healing spaces <healingspaces > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off. In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through ! sohamsa/message/9099 He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > wrote: Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna specific. Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama krsna , Dear Rafal, The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 . i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses) Thanks Swati Om Tat sat On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Swati , NamaskarWhen Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening chakra to get that light.Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru;email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comArticles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Vistiji, When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!). Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?Swati Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Om Namah Shivaya, To Ramesh and Svati, Svati has intellegently understood that Marana sthana people were talking about is mostly related to a house where graha is placed. As such the remedies given by other list members were correct. However, remedies given by other members will not improve 1. Houses ruled by planets in MKS 2. Houses for which MKS planet is karak Therefore, if let us say Shukra is in Marana Karaka sthana , strengtening Saturn will only protect the 6th house. It will DO NOTHING to houses ruled by shukra, nor it will improve the 7th house significations. Now, I have given you a strong hint, try to think a bit what should be rememedied in cases under 1 and 2.? Best wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.com On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani17. rujan 2007 3:40 Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Zoran, Swati’s link took me to your mail. The MKS variations mentioned by you are very interesting. However, I haven’t meditated enough to be able to understand them fully. As for Sun in MKS, I am not sure if Sanjayji spelled out the details of the remedy, he however did emphasize ‘looking’ at Saturn for the remedy. Kind regards Ramesh On Behalf Of amarMonday, July 16, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Ramesh, I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the different levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it is clear that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana would you strengten Shani, karak of 12th house? It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be strengthened, what about other things? There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their different effects, as well as DIFFERENT remedial measures for each problem Bese wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.com On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani15. rujan 2007 18:05 Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says “He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house.” Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings this point to attention sohamsa/message/12687it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. Swati On 9/15/07, healing spaces <healingspaces > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off. In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through ! sohamsa/message/9099 He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > wrote: Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna specific. Regards Ramesh size=2 width="100%" align=center> On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama krsna , Dear Rafal, The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 . i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses) Thanks Swati Om Tat sat On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Swati , NamaskarWhen Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening chakra to get that light.Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru;email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comArticles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Vistiji, When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!). Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?Swati Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says “He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house.” Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spaces Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings this point to attention sohamsa/message/12687 it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. Swati On 9/15/07, healing spaces <healingspaces > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off. In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through ! sohamsa/message/9099 He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > wrote: Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna specific. Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spaces Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama krsna , Dear Rafal, The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 . i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses) Thanks Swati Om Tat sat On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hare rama krsna Dear Swati , Namaskar When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening chakra to get that light. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru; email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Vistiji, When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!). Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ? Swati Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Hare Rama krsna Dear Rameshji yes it is this point i am driving as to which Bhava and naisargika/chara karaktwas more afflicted due to MKS placements. a)the houses and signification where MK placement happens b) the Bhava lorded and naisargika and chara karaktwas of the MKS planet. both will be afflicted surely so which remedy seeks to help in first case and which in second case ? i think with the remedy of gemstone and Ghrini Aditya mantra of the Karak of MKS placement, we are strenghtening only that bhava. So finally how does this aid to help the karaktwa that is really Dying ? that is why i posed an example for Virgo lagna with venus as MKS . here Should Jupiters as karak of 2nd and 9th house and lord of 7th house not aid ? also Soul sadhak ji had made a point as to when the lordships of dusthana houses is being weakened do we need to strengthen it ? or if Gk goes to MKS than what ? Swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani <rgangaramani wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house." Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spaces Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings this point to attention sohamsa/message/12687 it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. Swati On 9/15/07, healing spaces <healingspaces wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off. In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through ! sohamsa/message/9099 He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote: Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna specific. Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spaces Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama krsna , Dear Rafal, The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 . i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses) Thanks Swati Om Tat sat On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hare rama krsna Dear Swati , Namaskar When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening chakra to get that light. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru; email: rafal Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Vistiji, When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!). Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ? Swati Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Zoran, Swati’s link took me to your mail. The MKS variations mentioned by you are very interesting. However, I haven’t meditated enough to be able to understand them fully. As for Sun in MKS, I am not sure if Sanjayji spelled out the details of the remedy, he however did emphasize ‘looking’ at Saturn for the remedy. Kind regards Ramesh On Behalf Of amar Monday, July 16, 2007 9:43 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Ramesh, I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the different levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it is clear that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana would you strengten Shani, karak of 12th house? It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be strengthened, what about other things? There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their different effects, as well as DIFFERENT remedial measures for each problem Bese wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.com On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani 15. rujan 2007 18:05 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says “He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house.” Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spaces Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings this point to attention sohamsa/message/12687 it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. Swati On 9/15/07, healing spaces <healingspaces > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off. In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through ! sohamsa/message/9099 He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > wrote: Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna specific. Regards Ramesh size=2 width="100%" align=center> On Behalf Of healing spaces Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama krsna , Dear Rafal, The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 . i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses) Thanks Swati Om Tat sat On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hare rama krsna Dear Swati , Namaskar When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening chakra to get that light. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru; email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Vistiji, When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!). Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ? Swati Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah Dear Zoran, It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji sometime back that i picked this thread. What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya mantras and gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing the bhava where MKS happens. For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone which will help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this remedy sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka planets Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )3) the chara karaka they signify in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with venus MKS in 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and 7th house ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here since jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house , that JUPITER should help ? Swati Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Ramesh, I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the different levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it is clear that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana would you strengten Shani, karak of 12th house? It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be strengthened, what about other things? There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their different effects, as well as DIFFERENT remedial measures for each problem Bese wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.com On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani15. rujan 2007 18:05 Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house." Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spacesSent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings this point to attention sohamsa/message/12687it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. Swati On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off. In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through ! sohamsa/message/9099 He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote: Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna specific. Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama krsna , Dear Rafal, The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 . i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses) Thanks Swati Om Tat sat On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Swati , NamaskarWhen Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening chakra to get that light.Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru;email: rafalArticles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Vistiji, When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!). Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?Swati Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Om Gurave namah : : Om Mahaganpatye Namah : : Dear Zoran jilet me give it a try although i have no clue about it. 1. Houses ruled by MKS - In such a case the karak of that house or Devata representing that house can be appeased . Also a gemstone of such karak can help, but this is going too much i think ) 2. Houses for which MKS is karak -in that case we can see the lordships and placement according to lagna in this case we could strengthen the lord (by gemstones or mantras) and also prayers to devata for that house may surely help. let me take an example lets say virgo lagna and venus is MKS, 1. houses ruled by venus are 2nd and 9th- in such a case jupiter is the karak of 2nd and 9th , and lord Vishnu is the devata for these houses , 2. Houses for which venus is karak is 7th -in such a case we look at the lord which is jupiter and devata is ma Lakshmi In short in such a case Jupiter should be strengthened by wearing its gemstone and mantras For lord Vishnu and ma lakshmi may surely help.Swati Om tat sat On 7/19/07, amar <ahimsa wrote: Om Namah Shivaya, To Ramesh and Svati, Svati has intellegently understood that Marana sthana people were talking about is mostly related to a house where graha is placed. As such the remedies given by other list members were correct. However, remedies given by other members will not improve 1. Houses ruled by planets in MKS 2. Houses for which MKS planet is karak Therefore, if let us say Shukra is in Marana Karaka sthana , strengtening Saturn will only protect the 6th house. It will DO NOTHING to houses ruled by shukra, nor it will improve the 7th house significations. Now, I have given you a strong hint, try to think a bit what should be rememedied in cases under 1 and 2.? Best wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.com On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani17. rujan 2007 3:40 Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Zoran, Swati's link took me to your mail. The MKS variations mentioned by you are very interesting. However, I haven't meditated enough to be able to understand them fully. As for Sun in MKS, I am not sure if Sanjayji spelled out the details of the remedy, he however did emphasize 'looking' at Saturn for the remedy. Kind regards Ramesh On Behalf Of amarMonday, July 16, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Ramesh, I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the different levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it is clear that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana would you strengten Shani, karak of 12th house? It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be strengthened, what about other things? There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their different effects, as well as DIFFERENT remedial measures for each problem Bese wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.com On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani15. rujan 2007 18:05 Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will still need a diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house." Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings this point to attention sohamsa/message/12687 it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations. Swati On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rameshji, this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off. In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was going through ! sohamsa/message/9099 He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering. Thanks in advance swati On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote: Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Swati, In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna specific. Regards Ramesh size=2 width= " 100% " align=center> On Behalf Of healing spacesSaturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama krsna , Dear Rafal, The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 . i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses) Thanks Swati Om Tat sat On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Swati , NamaskarWhen Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is opening chakra to get that light.Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru;email: rafalArticles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna, Dear Vistiji, When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or lordships of where it is the karak of!). Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong. Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?Swati Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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