Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Group, I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic eductaion or his mainstream of study. I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found is, Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were seen as obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems this opinion is made. What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another Pratyantar and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another Pratyantar. Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks a guy careless in his studies. I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also tell something. regards, Lalit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Although you didn't need my opinion but I must share knowledge as I am bound to, sorry for that. Relate Ketu with paper work because the planet can refuse to work if paper item is relate. My experience says that. A Foresight Prince of India Pram Chopra litsol <mishra.lalit vedic astrology Thursday, August 9, 2007 12:40:15 PM [vedic astrology] Strange Ketu - Pls. Tell us More !! Dear Group, I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic eductaion or his mainstream of study. I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found is, Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were seen as obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems this opinion is made. What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another Pratyantar and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another Pratyantar. Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks a guy careless in his studies. I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also tell something. regards, Lalit. ______________________________\ ____ Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness./webhosting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 No Prem Ji, My query is addressed to all elders.. thanx for sharing ur opinion with us. I didn't understand, exactly, what u r pointing to by paper work, pls. elaborate it a little like Ketu helps in paper work or deviates one from the paper work.. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Although you didn't need my opinion but I must share knowledge as I am bound to, sorry for that. > > Relate Ketu with paper work because the planet can refuse to work if paper item is relate. My experience says that. > > A Foresight Prince of India > Pram Chopra > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit > vedic astrology > Thursday, August 9, 2007 12:40:15 PM > [vedic astrology] Strange Ketu - Pls. Tell us More !! > > > Dear Group, > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic > eductaion or his mainstream of study. > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found is, > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were seen as > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems this > opinion is made. > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another Pratyantar > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another > Pratyantar. > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks a > guy careless in his studies. > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also tell > something. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Group: Please read the mail below for which I am giving this reply.... The writer has wrongly assumed that Ketu is misinterpreted as being productive of evil to one's academic excellence.....He starts from patently absurd assumptions....he claims that " others " have that opinion.....then starts refuting it as it he is a " know all " .....A learner should never venture into such debates if he is really a learner. If he is already learnt, he should not harbour such absurd ideas! The following are the general observations of Ketu in the 5th house: The native has an evil nature, has malicious intentions, will suffer from ailments of the stomach, there will be trouble from pisachas (evil spirits). The native's younger brothers are liable to get hurt; the native will have few sons and little happiness from them. But the native is fond of learning, engages perseveringly in work and is intelligent. Gain from cows. The mind is constantly worried! (Source: Hindu predictive astrology - Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha; page no. 173) Prof. K.S. Krishnamurthi says " Inauspicious to children, may stammer (my interpretation: this can be interpreted loosely as weakness of speech - bad mouthing is also a weakness of speech!), a bad person, may be punished by the Government, will reside in a place where there are indecent people, will be cunning, hydrophobia, unhealthy. " According to Jaatakaabharanam, such a placement makes a person wealthy, and strong. General opinion about ketu in the 5th house is that such natives have a " rush of ideas " and are opiniated. These guidelines are given so that parents can judge these characteristics from childhood and temper those negatives to an extent that the native will not be a nuisance to sane society in later years. Mere intelligence is not enough, and it is useless unless such an intelligence is diverted towards productive endeavours for the welfare of others rather than maligning others. Similarly, Rahu in the 5th house does not make a person careless regarding academics. Actually such persons make very good occultists and are good at research type of studies. This is also productive of putra dosha. In astrology, the first basic rule is to take everything as a whole and not in parts. Definitely some part will be correct and on dot to some horoscope. Based on that we should not jump into conclusions. Placement of the planet, its strength, aspects on that planet, the disposition of other significators (for education, 4, and 9th in addition to 2nd house to a lesser extent), etc should be judged carefully. The fragmented research as suggested by Mr. Lalith will only be misleading, and this is definitely not the way to learn astrology. I am clarifying this only so that other readers here do not get misled. If you read the above things about ketu in 5th house, the thing about Pisacha baadha, malicious intentions, intelligence is on-dot regarding Mr. Lalith....But that does not mean that everyone with Ketu in 5th house will suffer paisacha baadha. The danger is there; but remedies can be done to avoid such an occurrence, and that is the real purpose of astrology - to identify weaknesses of the horoscope early on in life and take preventive measures to overcome that. For instance, Rahu/ Ketu in 5th which are productive of putra dosha can be neutralized by proper chants from childhood and if such a measure is taken, we need not run from pillar to post after marriage to remove the dosha! This was the spirit of vedic astrology. More than asserting anything or maligning anything, the idea was to take precautions, remedies, etc. as far as possible based on the possible dangers indicated. If after all this something negative happened, traditional people do accept it as their fate and do not go about blaming traditions, shaastraas, etc. I have explained it in this detail because this is my last post here. I will not continue in a group where there is no distinction between a student and a Guru, and where there is no active moderation to avoid unsavoury exchanges (I am of the opinion even Mohanraaamji's tough mails should have been first of all not allowed to come into the group. Old members of this group might remember how I had often written asking Mohanraaamji to refrain from using abusive words. I felt even " idiot " is an abusive word; but more stronger words have been used against me!) Dharma shaastra does not advocate unconditional ahimsa. What I am doing is consistent with vedic protocols......According to Dharma Shaastra " apaatra Vidyaa dhaanam apaara paapa janitam " means if " gift of knowledge shown to undeserving persons is productive of great sin " . Many of you here are deserving; but how can I differentiate between a genuine student and a malicious " knowledge theif " in an open forum...what I post here will be for everyone. Previously I never had such a fear here though there were some controversies. I felt that the persons concerned were decent enough though they did use hard words occasionally; they never used abusive words. They did not say one day " Panditji you are knowledgeable " and the next day " Pakhandi Pandit " , " mafia " , " swine " , and what not!!!!!! The moderator is blissfully sleeping; enough time has been for them to act. People have written to them. I do not deserve that. When I share things here, you must understand that I am spending my time which I could have productively spent for my own sadhanas, or even for further learning and improvement of my own knowledge (Knowledge is endless, and I do not think one life time is enough for learning everything....I have lots to learn). When I spent hours together like that I have compromised myself and my own professional interests.... (on an average I used to spend at least 3 hours for posting messages here and the time I have spent on answering queries from members on a honorary basis on technical details off this list can never be logged properly!). I have always streamlined by appointments in such a way that I did not allow my professional interests to supercede my contribution here; I used to say I have no time and postpone appointments because I did not want to use the time I spend for this group to be compromised. Did I get one penny for all that? Did I worry about that? Very few members of this group have approached me on professional basis.....I have always considered it broadly.....those who can are contributing....those who cannot do not do so....so what, life will balance out everything. Definitely this is not the mind of a commercial person; yet such an allegation has come, and that person still struts around....what is more....he is again approaching everything from his own limited perspective and that he bases as authentic! It is ridiculous. I do not have time or intention for such cheap mental gymnastics with unworthy persons. If the subject has to be learnt, doubts should have a genuine basis....this is ridiculous...there are various versions of results of planets in different houses, and they all have their validity in a context.....Group learners here, I implore you all to respect the basic dictum of this science of astrology..... " NEVER INTERPRET ANY PLANETARY COMBINATION IN ISOLATION; NEVER USE ANY ASTROLOGICAL DICTUM OUT OF CONTEXT " Let the shaastraas be your guide; let your intuition be your guide; let prayers be your strength; let truth be your companion. Blessings to one and all. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic > eductaion or his mainstream of study. > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found is, > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were seen as > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems this > opinion is made. > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another Pratyantar > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another > Pratyantar. > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks a > guy careless in his studies. > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also tell > something. > > regards, > Lalit. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 dear list, just sharing with you something about ketu and paper work. i know someone who has ketu in 8th aspecting 2nd house which has sun saturn mercury rahu!! this person just dislikes doing paperwork.he keeps it for the end and tackles it under pressure.on the other hand he is extremely upto date with his hobby and other extra curricular activities!! so is ketu in the 8th responsible ? would love to know. thanks and regards rhoda litsol <mishra.lalit wrote: No Prem Ji, My query is addressed to all elders.. thanx for sharing ur opinion with us. I didn't understand, exactly, what u r pointing to by paper work, pls. elaborate it a little like Ketu helps in paper work or deviates one from the paper work.. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Although you didn't need my opinion but I must share knowledge as I am bound to, sorry for that. > > Relate Ketu with paper work because the planet can refuse to work if paper item is relate. My experience says that. > > A Foresight Prince of India > Pram Chopra > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit > vedic astrology > Thursday, August 9, 2007 12:40:15 PM > [vedic astrology] Strange Ketu - Pls. Tell us More !! > > > Dear Group, > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic > eductaion or his mainstream of study. > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found is, > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were seen as > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems this > opinion is made. > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another Pratyantar > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another > Pratyantar. > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks a > guy careless in his studies. > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also tell > something. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > > ________ ______________ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Listol sorry in typing mistake its Ketu relate all papar items and it give success too in this matter. A Foresight Prince of India Pram Chopra litsol <mishra.lalit vedic astrology Thursday, August 9, 2007 1:12:31 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Strange Ketu - Pls. Tell us More !! No Prem Ji, My query is addressed to all elders.. thanx for sharing ur opinion with us. I didn't understand, exactly, what u r pointing to by paper work, pls. elaborate it a little like Ketu helps in paper work or deviates one from the paper work.. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote: > > Although you didn't need my opinion but I must share knowledge as I am bound to, sorry for that. > > Relate Ketu with paper work because the planet can refuse to work if paper item is relate. My experience says that. > > A Foresight Prince of India > Pram Chopra > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...> > vedic astrology > Thursday, August 9, 2007 12:40:15 PM > [vedic astrology] Strange Ketu - Pls. Tell us More !! > > > Dear Group, > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic > eductaion or his mainstream of study. > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found is, > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were seen as > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems this > opinion is made. > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another Pratyantar > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another > Pratyantar. > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks a > guy careless in his studies. > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also tell > something. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ __ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > http://smallbusines s./ webhosting > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear PanditJi, My query was solely focussed on ketu's role in one's academics .. ., dont deviate form the focus point.Well, thanx for posting in a bit positive manner, however, 1. I gave a real case to cross check with what is written in books. 2. I can happily understand why ketu makes a person's nature bad in ur's opinion, simply coz it's there in my chart , well, u forgot to mention that Ketu makes a person an expert in mantra shastra / Kundalini/ spirituality etc... About Rahu, My younger brother has Rahu in his 5'th, we both are Pisces ascendent, He has never been serious in his studies, somehow he completed B.Com and M.B.A, in fact during all his MBA's sam-exams, i had to read his Management Books for him and then explain to him. He was selected for B.Tech in MNR (Regional Engineering College, Allahabad) but didnt join, He had a book written by Philip Kotler, some 400 pages it has, He couldn't complete that book in his all 4 Sams, and after the 1 year of his MBA, he purchased a new version of the same book, i was surprised thou happy, but funny thing is that new books is still with me and He is in Pune. So, there is need to cross check what is there in the books with what is there in the life. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer " <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Group: > > Please read the mail below for which I am giving this reply.... > > The writer has wrongly assumed that Ketu is misinterpreted as being > productive of evil to one's academic excellence.....He starts from > patently absurd assumptions....he claims that " others " have that > opinion.....then starts refuting it as it he is a " know all " .....A > learner should never venture into such debates if he is really a > learner. If he is already learnt, he should not harbour such absurd > ideas! > > The following are the general observations of Ketu in the 5th house: > > The native has an evil nature, has malicious intentions, will suffer > from ailments of the stomach, there will be trouble from pisachas > (evil spirits). The native's younger brothers are liable to get > hurt; the native will have few sons and little happiness from them. > But the native is fond of learning, engages perseveringly in work and > is intelligent. Gain from cows. The mind is constantly worried! > (Source: > Hindu predictive astrology - Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha; page no. 173) > > Prof. K.S. Krishnamurthi says " Inauspicious to children, may stammer > (my interpretation: this can be interpreted loosely as weakness of > speech - bad mouthing is also a weakness of speech!), a bad person, > may be punished by the Government, will reside in a place where there > are indecent people, will be cunning, hydrophobia, unhealthy. " > > According to Jaatakaabharanam, such a placement makes a person > wealthy, and strong. General opinion about ketu in the 5th house is > that such natives have a " rush of ideas " and are opiniated. > > These guidelines are given so that parents can judge these > characteristics from childhood and temper those negatives to an > extent that the native will not be a nuisance to sane society in > later years. Mere intelligence is not enough, and it is useless > unless such an intelligence is diverted towards productive endeavours > for the welfare of others rather than maligning others. > > Similarly, Rahu in the 5th house does not make a person careless > regarding academics. Actually such persons make very good occultists > and are good at research type of studies. This is also productive of > putra dosha. > > In astrology, the first basic rule is to take everything as a whole > and not in parts. Definitely some part will be correct and on dot to > some horoscope. Based on that we should not jump into conclusions. > > Placement of the planet, its strength, aspects on that planet, the > disposition of other significators (for education, 4, and 9th in > addition to 2nd house to a lesser extent), etc should be judged > carefully. > > The fragmented research as suggested by Mr. Lalith will only be > misleading, and this is definitely not the way to learn astrology. > > I am clarifying this only so that other readers here do not get > misled. > > If you read the above things about ketu in 5th house, the thing about > Pisacha baadha, malicious intentions, intelligence is on-dot > regarding Mr. Lalith....But that does not mean that everyone with > Ketu in 5th house will suffer paisacha baadha. The danger is there; > but remedies can be done to avoid such an occurrence, and that is the > real purpose of astrology - to identify weaknesses of the horoscope > early on in life and take preventive measures to overcome that. For > instance, Rahu/ Ketu in 5th which are productive of putra dosha can > be neutralized by proper chants from childhood and if such a measure > is taken, we need not run from pillar to post after marriage to > remove the dosha! > > This was the spirit of vedic astrology. More than asserting anything > or maligning anything, the idea was to take precautions, remedies, > etc. as far as possible based on the possible dangers indicated. If > after all this something negative happened, traditional people do > accept it as their fate and do not go about blaming traditions, > shaastraas, etc. > > I have explained it in this detail because this is my last post here. > > I will not continue in a group where there is no distinction between > a student and a Guru, and where there is no active moderation to > avoid unsavoury exchanges (I am of the opinion even Mohanraaamji's > tough mails should have been first of all not allowed to come into > the group. Old members of this group might remember how I had often > written asking Mohanraaamji to refrain from using abusive words. I > felt even " idiot " is an abusive word; but more stronger words have > been used against me!) > > Dharma shaastra does not advocate unconditional ahimsa. What I am > doing is consistent with vedic protocols......According to Dharma > Shaastra " apaatra Vidyaa dhaanam apaara paapa janitam " means if " gift > of knowledge shown to undeserving persons is productive of great sin " . > Many of you here are deserving; but how can I differentiate between a > genuine student and a malicious " knowledge theif " in an open > forum...what I post here will be for everyone. Previously I never > had such a fear here though there were some controversies. I felt > that the persons concerned were decent enough though they did use > hard words occasionally; they never used abusive words. They did not > say one day " Panditji you are knowledgeable " and the next > day " Pakhandi Pandit " , " mafia " , " swine " , and what not!!!!!! > > The moderator is blissfully sleeping; enough time has been for them > to act. People have written to them. I do not deserve that. When I > share things here, you must understand that I am spending my time > which I could have productively spent for my own sadhanas, or even > for further learning and improvement of my own knowledge (Knowledge > is endless, and I do not think one life time is enough for learning > everything....I have lots to learn). When I spent hours together > like that I have compromised myself and my own professional > interests.... (on an average I used to spend at least 3 hours for > posting messages here and the time I have spent on answering queries > from members on a honorary basis on technical details off this list > can never be logged properly!). I have always streamlined by > appointments in such a way that I did not allow my professional > interests to supercede my contribution here; I used to say I have no > time and postpone appointments because I did not want to use the time > I spend for this group to be compromised. Did I get one penny for > all that? Did I worry about that? Very few members of this group > have approached me on professional basis.....I have always considered > it broadly.....those who can are contributing....those who cannot do > not do so....so what, life will balance out everything. Definitely > this is not the mind of a commercial person; yet such an allegation > has come, and that person still struts around....what is more....he > is again approaching everything from his own limited perspective and > that he bases as authentic! It is ridiculous. I do not have time or > intention for such cheap mental gymnastics with unworthy persons. > > If the subject has to be learnt, doubts should have a genuine > basis....this is ridiculous...there are various versions of results > of planets in different houses, and they all have their validity in a > context.....Group learners here, I implore you all to respect the > basic dictum of this science of astrology..... " NEVER INTERPRET ANY > PLANETARY COMBINATION IN ISOLATION; NEVER USE ANY ASTROLOGICAL DICTUM > OUT OF CONTEXT " > > Let the shaastraas be your guide; let your intuition be your guide; > let prayers be your strength; let truth be your companion. > > Blessings to one and all. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. > > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. > > > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic > > eductaion or his mainstream of study. > > > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found > is, > > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and > > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were seen > as > > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems this > > opinion is made. > > > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My > > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in > > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another > Pratyantar > > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another > > Pratyantar. > > > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks a > > guy careless in his studies. > > > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. > > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also tell > > something. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Respected Dakshinamoorthi Ji, Very informative mail. You are also very much right about judging planet not in isolation. I do have Ketu in 5th house which is libra and with Venus. Now, I do have stomach problem mainly acidity. I have one daughter, fond of learning being a scientist and I am only son of my parents. I am not evil either. Well this should be checked by others. So some parameters could be tested in isolation. But to understand the proper planetary effect, I do think people must see in totality not in isolation. With personal regards Pranam Saumya dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: Dear Group: Please read the mail below for which I am giving this reply.... The writer has wrongly assumed that Ketu is misinterpreted as being productive of evil to one's academic excellence.....He starts from patently absurd assumptions....he claims that " others " have that opinion.....then starts refuting it as it he is a " know all " .....A learner should never venture into such debates if he is really a learner. If he is already learnt, he should not harbour such absurd ideas! The following are the general observations of Ketu in the 5th house: The native has an evil nature, has malicious intentions, will suffer from ailments of the stomach, there will be trouble from pisachas (evil spirits). The native's younger brothers are liable to get hurt; the native will have few sons and little happiness from them. But the native is fond of learning, engages perseveringly in work and is intelligent. Gain from cows. The mind is constantly worried! (Source: Hindu predictive astrology - Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha; page no. 173) Prof. K.S. Krishnamurthi says " Inauspicious to children, may stammer (my interpretation: this can be interpreted loosely as weakness of speech - bad mouthing is also a weakness of speech!), a bad person, may be punished by the Government, will reside in a place where there are indecent people, will be cunning, hydrophobia, unhealthy. " According to Jaatakaabharanam, such a placement makes a person wealthy, and strong. General opinion about ketu in the 5th house is that such natives have a " rush of ideas " and are opiniated. These guidelines are given so that parents can judge these characteristics from childhood and temper those negatives to an extent that the native will not be a nuisance to sane society in later years. Mere intelligence is not enough, and it is useless unless such an intelligence is diverted towards productive endeavours for the welfare of others rather than maligning others. Similarly, Rahu in the 5th house does not make a person careless regarding academics. Actually such persons make very good occultists and are good at research type of studies. This is also productive of putra dosha. In astrology, the first basic rule is to take everything as a whole and not in parts. Definitely some part will be correct and on dot to some horoscope. Based on that we should not jump into conclusions. Placement of the planet, its strength, aspects on that planet, the disposition of other significators (for education, 4, and 9th in addition to 2nd house to a lesser extent), etc should be judged carefully. The fragmented research as suggested by Mr. Lalith will only be misleading, and this is definitely not the way to learn astrology. I am clarifying this only so that other readers here do not get misled. If you read the above things about ketu in 5th house, the thing about Pisacha baadha, malicious intentions, intelligence is on-dot regarding Mr. Lalith....But that does not mean that everyone with Ketu in 5th house will suffer paisacha baadha. The danger is there; but remedies can be done to avoid such an occurrence, and that is the real purpose of astrology - to identify weaknesses of the horoscope early on in life and take preventive measures to overcome that. For instance, Rahu/ Ketu in 5th which are productive of putra dosha can be neutralized by proper chants from childhood and if such a measure is taken, we need not run from pillar to post after marriage to remove the dosha! This was the spirit of vedic astrology. More than asserting anything or maligning anything, the idea was to take precautions, remedies, etc. as far as possible based on the possible dangers indicated. If after all this something negative happened, traditional people do accept it as their fate and do not go about blaming traditions, shaastraas, etc. I have explained it in this detail because this is my last post here. I will not continue in a group where there is no distinction between a student and a Guru, and where there is no active moderation to avoid unsavoury exchanges (I am of the opinion even Mohanraaamji's tough mails should have been first of all not allowed to come into the group. Old members of this group might remember how I had often written asking Mohanraaamji to refrain from using abusive words. I felt even " idiot " is an abusive word; but more stronger words have been used against me!) Dharma shaastra does not advocate unconditional ahimsa. What I am doing is consistent with vedic protocols......According to Dharma Shaastra " apaatra Vidyaa dhaanam apaara paapa janitam " means if " gift of knowledge shown to undeserving persons is productive of great sin " . Many of you here are deserving; but how can I differentiate between a genuine student and a malicious " knowledge theif " in an open forum...what I post here will be for everyone. Previously I never had such a fear here though there were some controversies. I felt that the persons concerned were decent enough though they did use hard words occasionally; they never used abusive words. They did not say one day " Panditji you are knowledgeable " and the next day " Pakhandi Pandit " , " mafia " , " swine " , and what not!!!!!! The moderator is blissfully sleeping; enough time has been for them to act. People have written to them. I do not deserve that. When I share things here, you must understand that I am spending my time which I could have productively spent for my own sadhanas, or even for further learning and improvement of my own knowledge (Knowledge is endless, and I do not think one life time is enough for learning everything....I have lots to learn). When I spent hours together like that I have compromised myself and my own professional interests.... (on an average I used to spend at least 3 hours for posting messages here and the time I have spent on answering queries from members on a honorary basis on technical details off this list can never be logged properly!). I have always streamlined by appointments in such a way that I did not allow my professional interests to supercede my contribution here; I used to say I have no time and postpone appointments because I did not want to use the time I spend for this group to be compromised. Did I get one penny for all that? Did I worry about that? Very few members of this group have approached me on professional basis.....I have always considered it broadly.....those who can are contributing....those who cannot do not do so....so what, life will balance out everything. Definitely this is not the mind of a commercial person; yet such an allegation has come, and that person still struts around....what is more....he is again approaching everything from his own limited perspective and that he bases as authentic! It is ridiculous. I do not have time or intention for such cheap mental gymnastics with unworthy persons. If the subject has to be learnt, doubts should have a genuine basis....this is ridiculous...there are various versions of results of planets in different houses, and they all have their validity in a context.....Group learners here, I implore you all to respect the basic dictum of this science of astrology..... " NEVER INTERPRET ANY PLANETARY COMBINATION IN ISOLATION; NEVER USE ANY ASTROLOGICAL DICTUM OUT OF CONTEXT " Let the shaastraas be your guide; let your intuition be your guide; let prayers be your strength; let truth be your companion. Blessings to one and all. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology , " litsol " wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic > eductaion or his mainstream of study. > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found is, > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were seen as > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems this > opinion is made. > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another Pratyantar > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another > Pratyantar. > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks a > guy careless in his studies. > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also tell > something. > > regards, > Lalit. > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Mr. Saumya, Let the Sunil Ji come up with his opinion to correct us, the Query is for Ketu's role in Academic Eduction, Dont deviate form the main point, that we are trying to understand . Any book on astrology says Ketu on 5'th may cause some trouble to stomach, Again this is an isolated vision only.., Lot depends on the aspects, 5'th plalced ketu is having from other planets and also on the 5'th lord's placement. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology , saumya ray chaudhuri <saumya wrote: > > Respected Dakshinamoorthi Ji, > Very informative mail. You are also very much right about judging planet not in isolation. I do have Ketu in 5th house which is libra and with Venus. Now, I do have stomach problem mainly acidity. I have one daughter, fond of learning being a scientist and I am only son of my parents. I am not evil either. Well this should be checked by others. So some parameters could be tested in isolation. But to understand the proper planetary effect, I do think people must see in totality not in isolation. > > With personal regards > Pranam > Saumya > dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: > Dear Group: > > Please read the mail below for which I am giving this reply.... > > The writer has wrongly assumed that Ketu is misinterpreted as being > productive of evil to one's academic excellence.....He starts from > patently absurd assumptions....he claims that " others " have that > opinion.....then starts refuting it as it he is a " know all " .....A > learner should never venture into such debates if he is really a > learner. If he is already learnt, he should not harbour such absurd > ideas! > > The following are the general observations of Ketu in the 5th house: > > The native has an evil nature, has malicious intentions, will suffer > from ailments of the stomach, there will be trouble from pisachas > (evil spirits). The native's younger brothers are liable to get > hurt; the native will have few sons and little happiness from them. > But the native is fond of learning, engages perseveringly in work and > is intelligent. Gain from cows. The mind is constantly worried! > (Source: > Hindu predictive astrology - Pandit Gopesh Kumar Ojha; page no. 173) > > Prof. K.S. Krishnamurthi says " Inauspicious to children, may stammer > (my interpretation: this can be interpreted loosely as weakness of > speech - bad mouthing is also a weakness of speech!), a bad person, > may be punished by the Government, will reside in a place where there > are indecent people, will be cunning, hydrophobia, unhealthy. " > > According to Jaatakaabharanam, such a placement makes a person > wealthy, and strong. General opinion about ketu in the 5th house is > that such natives have a " rush of ideas " and are opiniated. > > These guidelines are given so that parents can judge these > characteristics from childhood and temper those negatives to an > extent that the native will not be a nuisance to sane society in > later years. Mere intelligence is not enough, and it is useless > unless such an intelligence is diverted towards productive endeavours > for the welfare of others rather than maligning others. > > Similarly, Rahu in the 5th house does not make a person careless > regarding academics. Actually such persons make very good occultists > and are good at research type of studies. This is also productive of > putra dosha. > > In astrology, the first basic rule is to take everything as a whole > and not in parts. Definitely some part will be correct and on dot to > some horoscope. Based on that we should not jump into conclusions. > > Placement of the planet, its strength, aspects on that planet, the > disposition of other significators (for education, 4, and 9th in > addition to 2nd house to a lesser extent), etc should be judged > carefully. > > The fragmented research as suggested by Mr. Lalith will only be > misleading, and this is definitely not the way to learn astrology. > > I am clarifying this only so that other readers here do not get > misled. > > If you read the above things about ketu in 5th house, the thing about > Pisacha baadha, malicious intentions, intelligence is on-dot > regarding Mr. Lalith....But that does not mean that everyone with > Ketu in 5th house will suffer paisacha baadha. The danger is there; > but remedies can be done to avoid such an occurrence, and that is the > real purpose of astrology - to identify weaknesses of the horoscope > early on in life and take preventive measures to overcome that. For > instance, Rahu/ Ketu in 5th which are productive of putra dosha can > be neutralized by proper chants from childhood and if such a measure > is taken, we need not run from pillar to post after marriage to > remove the dosha! > > This was the spirit of vedic astrology. More than asserting anything > or maligning anything, the idea was to take precautions, remedies, > etc. as far as possible based on the possible dangers indicated. If > after all this something negative happened, traditional people do > accept it as their fate and do not go about blaming traditions, > shaastraas, etc. > > I have explained it in this detail because this is my last post here. > > I will not continue in a group where there is no distinction between > a student and a Guru, and where there is no active moderation to > avoid unsavoury exchanges (I am of the opinion even Mohanraaamji's > tough mails should have been first of all not allowed to come into > the group. Old members of this group might remember how I had often > written asking Mohanraaamji to refrain from using abusive words. I > felt even " idiot " is an abusive word; but more stronger words have > been used against me!) > > Dharma shaastra does not advocate unconditional ahimsa. What I am > doing is consistent with vedic protocols......According to Dharma > Shaastra " apaatra Vidyaa dhaanam apaara paapa janitam " means if " gift > of knowledge shown to undeserving persons is productive of great sin " . > Many of you here are deserving; but how can I differentiate between a > genuine student and a malicious " knowledge theif " in an open > forum...what I post here will be for everyone. Previously I never > had such a fear here though there were some controversies. I felt > that the persons concerned were decent enough though they did use > hard words occasionally; they never used abusive words. They did not > say one day " Panditji you are knowledgeable " and the next > day " Pakhandi Pandit " , " mafia " , " swine " , and what not!!!!!! > > The moderator is blissfully sleeping; enough time has been for them > to act. People have written to them. I do not deserve that. When I > share things here, you must understand that I am spending my time > which I could have productively spent for my own sadhanas, or even > for further learning and improvement of my own knowledge (Knowledge > is endless, and I do not think one life time is enough for learning > everything....I have lots to learn). When I spent hours together > like that I have compromised myself and my own professional > interests.... (on an average I used to spend at least 3 hours for > posting messages here and the time I have spent on answering queries > from members on a honorary basis on technical details off this list > can never be logged properly!). I have always streamlined by > appointments in such a way that I did not allow my professional > interests to supercede my contribution here; I used to say I have no > time and postpone appointments because I did not want to use the time > I spend for this group to be compromised. Did I get one penny for > all that? Did I worry about that? Very few members of this group > have approached me on professional basis.....I have always considered > it broadly.....those who can are contributing....those who cannot do > not do so....so what, life will balance out everything. Definitely > this is not the mind of a commercial person; yet such an allegation > has come, and that person still struts around....what is more....he > is again approaching everything from his own limited perspective and > that he bases as authentic! It is ridiculous. I do not have time or > intention for such cheap mental gymnastics with unworthy persons. > > If the subject has to be learnt, doubts should have a genuine > basis....this is ridiculous...there are various versions of results > of planets in different houses, and they all have their validity in a > context.....Group learners here, I implore you all to respect the > basic dictum of this science of astrology..... " NEVER INTERPRET ANY > PLANETARY COMBINATION IN ISOLATION; NEVER USE ANY ASTROLOGICAL DICTUM > OUT OF CONTEXT " > > Let the shaastraas be your guide; let your intuition be your guide; > let prayers be your strength; let truth be your companion. > > Blessings to one and all. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > vedic astrology , " litsol " > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. > > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. > > > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic > > eductaion or his mainstream of study. > > > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found > is, > > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and > > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were seen > as > > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems this > > opinion is made. > > > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My > > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in > > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another > Pratyantar > > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another > > Pratyantar. > > > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks a > > guy careless in his studies. > > > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. > > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also tell > > something. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Rhoda God Bless U In his case if 2H have Sun, Saturn, Mercury with Rahu the majority of 2H gained by Rahu is much greater so Ketu does not have tendency to work upon. Rahu will observe the situation and give the result.(his base must be concerned with computers or comunication skills) As in his case doing accordingly. KP rule Nodes always act first. A Foresight Prince of India Pram Chopra Rhoda Reporter <rhodes10 vedic astrology Thursday, August 9, 2007 1:27:44 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Strange Ketu - Pls. Tell us More !! dear list, just sharing with you something about ketu and paper work. i know someone who has ketu in 8th aspecting 2nd house which has sun saturn mercury rahu!! this person just dislikes doing paperwork.he keeps it for the end and tackles it under pressure.on the other hand he is extremely upto date with his hobby and other extra curricular activities!! so is ketu in the 8th responsible ? would love to know. thanks and regards rhoda litsol <mishra.lalit@ gmail.com> wrote: No Prem Ji, My query is addressed to all elders.. thanx for sharing ur opinion with us. I didn't understand, exactly, what u r pointing to by paper work, pls. elaborate it a little like Ketu helps in paper work or deviates one from the paper work.. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote: > > Although you didn't need my opinion but I must share knowledge as I am bound to, sorry for that. > > Relate Ketu with paper work because the planet can refuse to work if paper item is relate. My experience says that. > > A Foresight Prince of India > Pram Chopra > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...> > vedic astrology > Thursday, August 9, 2007 12:40:15 PM > [vedic astrology] Strange Ketu - Pls. Tell us More !! > > > Dear Group, > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic > eductaion or his mainstream of study. > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found is, > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were seen as > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems this > opinion is made. > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another Pratyantar > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another > Pratyantar. > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks a > guy careless in his studies. > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also tell > something. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ __ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > http://smallbusines s./ webhosting > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Harcharan, Its Simhasana Yoga and can give influential position in its Dasa but also one can be stucked in that matter for some time, due to Mahasunya category and many mistakes can crop up during finishing projects/work. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Harcharan napisa?(a): > > Respected All, > > I have ketu in 10th Cancer. > > Ketu MD: Don't remember and not sure but perhaps brought stability to > my father's job. (29-03-1971 to 29-03-1978) > > Ketu>Mercury : Relocated my family out of state for one year due to > father's transfer. (March 1977 - March 1978) > > Venus>Ketu : Engineering 3rd year was some good period for me to get > interested into Occult Science, Numerology, Astrology, Material > Science, Kundalini Experience.( 28-01-1997 to 29-03-1998) > > SUN>KETU: Forced me to learn new technology, brought nervousness, > brought dependency on others, restlessness, Uncertainty, Brain > Stopped working, A lot of enemies developed, Performance Incentive > reduced drastically (24-11-2002 to 29-03-2003). > > Regards, > Harcharan > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, Pram Chopra > <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Rhoda > > > > God Bless U > > > > In his case if 2H have Sun, Saturn, Mercury with Rahu the majority > of 2H gained by Rahu is much greater so Ketu does not have tendency > to work upon. Rahu will observe the situation and give the result. > (his base must be concerned with computers or comunication skills) As > in his case doing accordingly. KP rule Nodes always act first. > > > > A Foresight Prince of India > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > Rhoda Reporter <rhodes10@.. .> > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > > Thursday, August 9, 2007 1:27:44 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Strange Ketu - Pls. Tell us > More !! > > > > dear list, > > just sharing with you something about ketu and paper work. > > i know someone who has ketu in 8th aspecting 2nd house which has > sun saturn mercury rahu!! this person just dislikes doing > paperwork.he keeps it for the end and tackles it under pressure.on > the other hand he is extremely upto date with his hobby and other > extra curricular activities!! > > so is ketu in the 8th responsible ? > > would love to know. > > thanks and regards > > rhoda > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ gmail.com> wrote: > > No Prem Ji, > > > > My query is addressed to all elders.. thanx for sharing ur opinion > > with us. > > > > I didn't understand, exactly, what u r pointing to by paper work, > > pls. elaborate it a little like Ketu helps in paper work or > deviates > > one from the paper work.. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > vedic astrology, Pram Chopra > > <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Although you didn't need my opinion but I must share knowledge as > I > > am bound to, sorry for that. > > > > > > Relate Ketu with paper work because the planet can refuse to work > > if paper item is relate. My experience says that. > > > > > > A Foresight Prince of India > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol <mishra.lalit@ ...> > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, August 9, 2007 12:40:15 PM > > > [vedic astrology] Strange Ketu - Pls. Tell us More !! > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I wish to share my observations about Ketu's role in 5'th house. > > > I m running under Ketu-Jupitor Dasha. > > > > > > The Ketu is minsinterpreted as a planet to harm one's acadamic > > > eductaion or his mainstream of study. > > > > > > I cross checked with my 2-3 friend's horoscopes, and what i found > > is, > > > Ketu gives u energy to do good in extra curriculum activities and > > > hobbies, in the ancient age, extra curriculum activities were > seen > > as > > > obstruction to ur mainstream of the study, therefore, it seems > this > > > opinion is made. > > > > > > What's the strange is, I completed my Master's in Ketu's dasa, My > > > friend Saurabh Chaturvedi, completed got admission into B.Tech in > > > Ketu's Pratyantar, Completed His B.Tech in Ketu's another > > Pratyantar > > > and even got admission in his M.Tech (VLSI) in Ketu's another > > > Pratyantar. > > > > > > Same is true with another guy, however, i saw, Rahu in 5'th maks > a > > > guy careless in his studies. > > > > > > I w'd like to see, elders and friend's opinion on this.. > > > particualrly, Bhagavati Ji and Sunil Ji, I hope Rafel w'd also > tell > > > something. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > ____________ __ > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business > gives > > you all the tools to get online. > > > http://smallbusines s./ webhosting > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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