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Thanks. Am grateful for all the help.

 

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Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 3:40:30 PM Re: Lagna Kundli or Chandra Kundli.....

I will advise them to put you to sleep after giving you some sleepingpills so that they can serve me well... Hahaha.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar<mouji99 > wrote:>> "After age of 90 one has to bother of arranging sweet looking nursesto be kept for the 90 year old person who look after the old man, and ustoo in their spare times... hahaha. Sick joke...">> Fine. Then I will request you to be near when and ever if I touch thatage.>> haste raho,>> Mouji>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, April 8, 2010 2:45:15 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Lagna Kundli or ChandraKundli.....>> Â>> One never must see the Kundli of Yogis... Because their planetary> effects become defunct since they have mastered the art of controlling> these.>> And theres no sense of looking at Kundlis of Bhogis. They have already> spoilt their future.>> So after age of 90, its either being to be a Kundli of one who has> become a Yogi of whatever class, or else one remains a Bhogi, in which> case Kundli ka kya kaam hai...>> After age of 90 one has to bother of arranging sweet looking nurses to> be kept for the 90 year old person who look after the old man, and us> too in their spare times... hahaha. Sick

joke...>> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Reading this particular comment about age of Kundalis, I waswondering> what would happen if someone lives beyond 90. Because Lagna Kundaliupto> 32, Moon kundali from 32 to 60, to taking average as 30, what would> become important after the age of 90 years, then perhaps it would be> kundalini and not kundali.....> >> > best wishes,> >> > Mouji> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Sasi Bhushan bhushaniyer@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thu, April 8, 2010 11:19:25 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Lagna Kundli or Chandra> Kundli.....> >> > Â> >

Dear All,> >> > As neelam ji has said , i agree with her. I do not have any textual> evidence to prove that> >> > "Chandra Kundli gains more importance after 32 years of age just as> Surya Kundli is more illustrative after 60 years of age as we changeour> level of consciousness from physical to mental to spiritual."> >> > Although in Parasara hora shastra it says that equal importanceneeds> to be given to Lagna,Surya and Chandra Kundali's. My interpretation of> the above statement that chandra kundli gains importance after 32years> and Surya after 60 years age can be related to the different stages of> life that the Hindu System talks about.> >> > In the olden days normally till the 32 years of age of a person he> would be generally dependent on any kind of decision making on his> parents/elders in

the family. (Again no firm evidence in the form of> texts for this). After 32 years of age he starts taking his own> decisions ( that could be the reason why we in my family tradition doa> Aaayush Homam on the completion of 32 years of age compulsarily thisis> specific to my family tradition).> >> > Once the Jatak starts taking his decisions on his own(i.e. 32 years> for e.g.), since Moon is the Karaka for Mind, we can start analysingthe> horoscope (natal chart) keeping moon as lagna, but while analysingfrom> Moon in the natal chart we should also take the transit chart into> consideration and then do our analysis (Since Moon is the fastestmoving> plant and so our thoughts change also very fast) Sade sati,ardhaashtama> sani and ashtama sani are all related to moon and the Vimshotari dasa> system is also based on Moon.>

>> > One more important point which i would like to say is as per karma> theory Moon is considered to be the link between the past janma andthe> present janma.> >> > As every one knows here generally the Moon for mind generates the> thoughts and thoughts drive the actions.> >> > Apart from that what my gurus have said is take all the three lagnas> (Lagna,Chandra and Surya) check which one is stronger ( we can take> ashtakavarga points for help) this shall help us in understandingwhich> lagna is strong and thus go ahead with the predictions.> >> > This is personally my point of view. Also may be the group can take> example charts of persons whoose chandra lagna is 8th from Lagna orvice> versa and analyse how the Jatak's life patterns have been.> >> > Best Regards> > Sasibhushan>

>> >> >> > Â> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:53 AM, sreesog sreesog > wrote:> >> > Â> > >Dear Devinder ji,> > >Â Â If you are not "Devi Singh", but only Devinder thisthread> is not for you and not addressing you. You are not expected understand> anything. :)Â I hope at least you see that - The thread is mainly> between Devi Singh and Bhaskar ji, and is not related to you.> > >//I love to be called "Dev" in short. //> > >Â Yes, but to avoid confusion I would prefer to refer to youas> Devinder and not simply Dev.Â> > >Love and regards,> > >Sreenadh> > >> > >> > >ancient_indian_ astrology, Dev axeplex@> wrote:> > >>> > >> Sreenadh ji,>

> >> ÂÂ> > >> What is expected from me to understand? Actually, I am not> following many threads these days and am selective, so do not knowwhat> is happening.> > >> ÂÂ> > >> I love to be called "Dev" in short. I don't see there shall beany> issue with this.> > >> ÂÂ> > >> regds> > >> Dev> > >>> > >> --- On Tue, 4/6/10, sreesog sreesog@ wrote:> > >>> > >>> > >> sreesog sreesog@> > >> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Lagna Kundli or Chandra> Kundli.....> > >> > >> ancient_indian_ astrology> > >> > >> Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 2:37 PM> > >>> > >>>

> >> ÂÂ> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji,> > >> //Sir kya likhte hain aap. meri khopdi mein kuch nahin ghus raha.> > >> (Sir what you write, Nothing seems right, I do not have sight to> understand it right).//> > >>  I enjoyed what you wrote and its poetic'translation'> (?!). Wah re wah! Translation ho to isa!... You would be a thought> revolution if had to do translation! Ha..Ha... Right, translationshould> be of the sense (and idea that we want to convey) and not of words.> Anyway, I liked your poetic expression (translation? ) than the native> hindi statement.Wah re wah!> > >>  "Sir what you write,> > >>> > >>   Nothing seems right,> >

>>> > >>   I do not have sight to-> > >>   Understand it right"> > >>  Bahut Khoob! Let me continue it -> > >>   "Keep everything straight,> > >>   We are not that bright> > >>   Flight of fancy is bullshit> > >>   We are wise to knowit-right?" :)> > >> //> //I prefer Chandra as question is for more study...that may> tells that> > >> > event is sure may be in this life (if not obstructed) or may be> in after> > >> > reborn (if obstructed). ..//> > >>  Yes, this is bullshit! Dear Bhaskar ji, neitheryou nor

me> has the sight to see it right (because it is not wrong), and hopefully> we are wise enough. If it is not so, Dev ji will help us to understand> it - let us hope. :)> > >>> > >> Love and regards,> > >> Sreenadh> > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sasibhushan JI,

 

//In the olden days normally till the 32 years of age of a person he

would be generally dependent on any kind of decision making//

Good and Logical it is still true in some case not all in Joint

family...but may not remain true in general sense upto 32 age it came

come lower down to 25 or less....since Fragmentation and Change in

Current Environment...

 

There are other Traditions as well they are not going to see chart for

Child till Father is alive...if see then also father chart is

requires...logic is inline with facts of Moon and Hidden

Potential.....It is same as Person come to astrologer with question why

he came(state of mind from this world)...and person take new birth with

question why he came (state of mind from eternal world)

 

//One more important point which i would like to say is as per karma

theory Moon is considered to be the link between the past janma and the

present janma.//

--yes Moon shows level of consciousness ....It is important to estimate

Power/Potential/Likely hood  present in essence.......let me quote

story if that helps to clear point related to more study what is in my

mind. ..

 

A very beautiful story...

 

Goshalak and Mahavira were both going for their daily begging. They

passed a very newly sprouted plant. Goshalak said to Mahavira, "Lord,

you say that everything happens according to a certain law of karma.

Now, can you say about this plant - will it survive or not? You are

omniscient, you can see."

Mahavira said, "It will survive, and will become a very big tree with

great foliage."

Goshalak went to the plant, pulled it out, threw it away, and said,

"Now we will see how that tree grows with a great foliage." Mahavira

simply smiled, and they walked to the village.

Meanwhile, there was a great cyclone... rains. When they came back,

Mahavira showed him that the plant was standing up. The cyclone and the

rains had changed its position. It was again back in the soil. And

Mahavira said, "Goshalak, do you want to try it again? This plant is

going to become a great tree, with great foliage - a beautiful tree.

You cannot change its course."

Goshalak became so angry. Mahavira had second thoughts, that this man

was not the right man: "If he suspects my approach to life, my whole

philosophy, then he cannot be my successor."

The moment Goshalak found that he was not going to be the successor, he

immediately rebelled, taking five hundred sannyasins of Mahavira with

him. He proclaimed himself to be the real master, and Mahavira just a

fraud.

 

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

 

Sasi Bhushan wrote:

 

 

Dear All,

 

As neelam ji has said , i agree with her. I do not have any

textual evidence to prove that

 

"Chandra Kundli gains more importance after 32 years of age just

as Surya Kundli is more illustrative after 60 years of age as we change

our level of consciousness from physical to mental to spiritual."

 

Although in Parasara hora shastra it says that equal importance

needs to be given to Lagna,Surya and Chandra Kundali's. My

interpretation of the above statement that chandra kundli gains

importance after 32 years and Surya after 60 years age can be related

to the different stages of life that the Hindu System talks about.

 

In the olden days normally till the 32 years of age of a person

he would be generally dependent on any kind of decision making on his

parents/elders in the family. (Again no firm evidence in the form of

texts for this). After 32 years of age he starts taking his own

decisions ( that could be the reason why we in my family tradition do a

Aaayush Homam on the completion of 32 years of age compulsarily this is

specific to my family tradition).

 

Once the Jatak starts taking his decisions on his own(i.e. 32

years for e.g.), since Moon is the Karaka for Mind, we can start

analysing the horoscope (natal chart) keeping moon as lagna, but while

analysing from Moon in the natal chart we should also take the transit

chart into consideration and then do our analysis (Since Moon is the

fastest moving plant and so our thoughts change also very fast) Sade

sati ,ardhaashtama sani and ashtama sani are all related to moon and

the Vimshotari dasa system is also based on Moon.

 

One more important point which i would like to say is as per

karma theory Moon is considered to be the link between the past janma

and the present janma.

 

As every one knows here generally the Moon for mind generates

the thoughts and thoughts drive the actions.

 

Apart from that what my gurus have said is take all the three

lagnas (Lagna,Chandra and Surya) check which one is stronger ( we can

take ashtakavarga points for help) this shall help us in understanding

which lagna is strong and thus go ahead with the predictions.

 

This is personally my point of view. Also may be the group can

take example charts of persons whoose chandra lagna is 8th from Lagna

or vice versa and analyse how the Jatak's life patterns have been.

 

Best Regards

Sasibhushan

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:53 AM, sreesog <sreesog >

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Devinder ji,

   If you are not "Devi Singh", but only Devinder this thread is not

for you and not addressing you. You are not expected understand

anything. :)  I hope at least you see that - The thread is mainly between Devi

Singh and Bhaskar ji, and is not related to you.

//I

love to be called "Dev" in short. //

  Yes, but to avoid confusion I would prefer to refer to you as

Devinder and not simply Dev. 

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

 

,

Dev <axeplex wrote:

>

> Sreenadh ji,

>  

> What is expected from me to understand? Actually, I am not

following many threads these days and am selective, so do not know what

is happening.

>  

> I love to be called "Dev" in short. I don't see there shall be any

issue with this.

>  

> regds

> Dev

>

> --- On Tue, 4/6/10, sreesog sreesog wrote:

>

>

> sreesog sreesog

 

> Re: Lagna Kundli or

Chandra Kundli.....

 

>

 

> Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 2:37 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> //Sir kya likhte hain aap. meri khopdi mein kuch nahin ghus raha.

> (Sir what you write, Nothing seems right, I do not have sight to

understand it right).//

>   I enjoyed what you wrote and its poetic 'translation' (?!). Wah

re wah! Translation ho to isa!... You would be a thought revolution if

had to do translation! Ha..Ha... Right, translation should be of the

sense (and idea that we want to convey) and not of words. Anyway, I

liked your poetic expression (translation? ) than the native hindi

statement.Wah re wah!

>   "Sir what you write,

>

>    Nothing seems right,

>

>    I do not have sight to-

>    Understand it right"

>   Bahut Khoob! Let me continue it -

>    "Keep everything straight,

>    We are not that bright

>    Flight of fancy is bullshit

>    We are wise to know it-right?"  :)

> //> //I prefer Chandra as question is for more study...that may

tells that

> > event is sure may be in this life (if not obstructed) or may

be in after

> > reborn (if obstructed). ..//

>   Yes, this is bullshit! Dear Bhaskar ji, neither you nor me has

the sight to see it right (because it is not wrong), and hopefully we

are wise enough. If it is not so, Dev ji will help us to understand it

- let us hope. :)

>

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

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