Guest guest Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Respected Mudit jee, I checked the Lal Kitab {urdu ed. 1952} and other editions I have including arun sanhita, I didnot found the doha you have quoted " kartooten kafran se badnaam hoga " . Any way the translation of this doha is not what you have given ' take good descision but goes wrong' the couplet mean ' kartoote-kafran = kafiron jaisi kartoot' kafir means ' nonbeliever' one who donot have faith in the religon. Therefore the doha means ' he will have bad reputation because of his non-religous acts.' Now coming to upaya you have suggested : - not to take milk after dark is right. BUT -- why iron goli with dull red paint. This upaya is for Ketu in the 1st house with Rahu in the 7th house. The logic of this upaya is that with the help of sat [ iron goli ] and mangal [ red paint ] ketu ko dabaya jaa raha hai. Pandit Krishna Ashant in his hindi book mention this upaya on page no 309 { ketu in the first house} .This upaya is also for Mercury in the 9th [ page 270 , krishna ashant ] Since ketu is in the 2nd why supress ketu here? --- offering mushroom in the temple is when Merc is in the 9th , it is because merc is placed in the pakka ghar of Jupiter. Where as in this kundali budh is already placed in its uchch sthan, then why this upaya? --- feeding kanya , sister etc again is an upaya for budh . Are you sure budh is malefic? with respect to all the gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , " mudit982001 " <mudit982001> wrote: > Dear Shanku, > Lagnesha Moon with Rahu in 8th Bhava is not good and book says that > " Kartooten kafran se badnam hoga " mean take good descion but goes > wrong. > To overcome of problems my suggestios are > 1. Do not take milk & milk product in white color after sun-set. > 2. Take an Iron ball, colored with dull red paint and put in your > pocket. > 3. offer Mashroom in temple or any Dharam Sthana. > 4. offer some sweets to sister or cousins or girls below 11yrs. > Sincerely > mudit982001 > > lalkitab , " shanku_rao2004 " > <shanku_rao2004> wrote: > > Hello members, > > > > I've been advised to seek your help to overcome my personal > > problems, I request you to analyse my birth chart and advise > > measures that I should take to overcome the difficulties. > > > > My birth date is 5th December, 1970. In my birth chart > > > > SUN is in 5th > > Moon and Rahu are in 8th > > Saturn is in 10th > > Mercury is in 6th > > Ketu is in 2nd > > Mars, Jupiter and venus are in 4th > > > > Lagna is KARAKA(Cancer) > > > > I'm running SATURN MAHA DASA (till 1/12/2010) and MARS ANTAR DASA. > > (till 25/8/2004) > > > > After my graduation, I started textile trading business in a small > > way but incurred losses and had close down the business. After > > closing down, I studied further so as to look for a job but till now > > I'm not able to get a job. > > > > Please let me know what is wrong and how to solve the problems. > > > > Thanks > > Shanku Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Respected Bhuwan ji Compelte doha is " Shakal Momina Kartoot kafiran, kafiro ki kartoot se badnam hoga. " I heard from a person who is very nearest to Pandit Ji so many years. He knows also Pt. Somdut the only son of Pandit ji. and it is only for Rahu in 8th not Moon+Rahu in 8th. There are so many things he has that is not qouted in books i think he has personal experiance with Pandit ji. take good descision but goes wrong' I suggest upays for the Varshaphal not from janam-teva.In varshphal Budh goes in 9th house and mars in 7th shows the effects of Budh are malefic.Budh is budhi so i tell that when budh is malefic the person does'nt take wisely decisions.It is my opinion. Pandit Ji says when budh is in 9th " Jab talak budh noven betha, grah na koi bolta l bhule se gar koi bole, budh na usko chorta ll saya to hai najar aata, budh najar aata nahin l maar parti sab grahon ko, koi churwata nahin ll " In Arun Samhita page No.Budh-28 chapter Mande Assar ka upay write in very clear words that 1.Lohe ki gole chij jis par mangal ka rang ho pas mein rakhna 2.khumb mitti ke bartan main dal kar dharam-sthan dena budh ki jahar avam Mande asar se bchayegi. Nak-Chedan 120 Hours is also helpful in this regard but age of person below 35yrs. I suggest upays according to Varshaphal not Kundlee. Sir, i thanks to you kyonki kitab mein kaha gaya hai ki " Galti batane vala sabse achaa dost hoga. Again thanks to you. sincerely mudit982001 lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > Respected Mudit jee, > > I checked the Lal Kitab {urdu ed. 1952} and other editions I have > including arun sanhita, I didnot found the doha you have quoted " > kartooten kafran se badnaam hoga " . Any way the translation of this > doha is not what you have given ' take good descision but goes wrong' > > the couplet mean ' kartoote-kafran = kafiron jaisi kartoot' kafir > means ' nonbeliever' one who donot have faith in the religon. > Therefore the doha means ' he will have bad reputation because of his > non-religous acts.' > > Now coming to upaya you have suggested : > > - not to take milk after dark is right. > > BUT > > -- why iron goli with dull red paint. This upaya is for Ketu in the > 1st house with Rahu in the 7th house. The logic of this upaya is that > with the help of sat [ iron goli ] and mangal [ red paint ] ketu ko > dabaya jaa raha hai. Pandit Krishna Ashant in his hindi book mention > this upaya on page no 309 { ketu in the first house} .This upaya is > also for Mercury in the 9th [ page 270 , krishna ashant ] Since ketu > is in the 2nd why supress ketu here? > > --- offering mushroom in the temple is when Merc is in the 9th , it > is because merc is placed in the pakka ghar of Jupiter. Where as in > this kundali budh is already placed in its uchch sthan, then why this > upaya? > > --- feeding kanya , sister etc again is an upaya for budh . Are you > sure budh is malefic? > > with respect to all the gurujan, > > bhuwan > > > > > lalkitab , " mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > wrote: > > Dear Shanku, > > Lagnesha Moon with Rahu in 8th Bhava is not good and book says that > > " Kartooten kafran se badnam hoga " mean take good descion but goes > > wrong. > > To overcome of problems my suggestios are > > 1. Do not take milk & milk product in white color after sun-set. > > 2. Take an Iron ball, colored with dull red paint and put in your > > pocket. > > 3. offer Mashroom in temple or any Dharam Sthana. > > 4. offer some sweets to sister or cousins or girls below 11yrs. > > Sincerely > > mudit982001 > > > > lalkitab , " shanku_rao2004 " > > <shanku_rao2004> wrote: > > > Hello members, > > > > > > I've been advised to seek your help to overcome my personal > > > problems, I request you to analyse my birth chart and advise > > > measures that I should take to overcome the difficulties. > > > > > > My birth date is 5th December, 1970. In my birth chart > > > > > > SUN is in 5th > > > Moon and Rahu are in 8th > > > Saturn is in 10th > > > Mercury is in 6th > > > Ketu is in 2nd > > > Mars, Jupiter and venus are in 4th > > > > > > Lagna is KARAKA(Cancer) > > > > > > I'm running SATURN MAHA DASA (till 1/12/2010) and MARS ANTAR DASA. > > > (till 25/8/2004) > > > > > > After my graduation, I started textile trading business in a small > > > way but incurred losses and had close down the business. After > > > closing down, I studied further so as to look for a job but till > now > > > I'm not able to get a job. > > > > > > Please let me know what is wrong and how to solve the problems. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Shanku Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 19, 2004 Respected Mudit jee, Yes, for budh in the 9th the upaya is alright. I too has mentioned that the upaya are for merc in 9th. However didn't find the doha for rahu in 8th. shakla momin { believers} ki si lekin harkaten kafiron { non-believers } ki si. with respect for all the gurujan. bhuwan lalkitab , " mudit982001 " <mudit982001> wrote: > Respected Bhuwan ji > Compelte doha is > " Shakal Momina Kartoot kafiran, kafiro ki kartoot se badnam hoga. " > I heard from a person who is very nearest to Pandit Ji so many years. > He knows also Pt. Somdut the only son of Pandit ji. and it is only > for Rahu in 8th not Moon+Rahu in 8th. There are so many things he has > that is not qouted in books i think he has personal experiance with > Pandit ji. > take good descision but goes wrong' > I suggest upays for the Varshaphal not from janam-teva.In varshphal > Budh goes in 9th house and mars in 7th shows the effects of Budh are > malefic.Budh is budhi so i tell that when budh is malefic the person > does'nt take wisely decisions.It is my opinion. > Pandit Ji says when budh is in 9th > " Jab talak budh noven betha, grah na koi bolta l > bhule se gar koi bole, budh na usko chorta ll > saya to hai najar aata, budh najar aata nahin l > maar parti sab grahon ko, koi churwata nahin ll " > In Arun Samhita page No.Budh-28 chapter Mande Assar ka upay write in > very clear words that > 1.Lohe ki gole chij jis par mangal ka rang ho pas mein rakhna > 2.khumb mitti ke bartan main dal kar dharam-sthan dena > budh ki jahar avam Mande asar se bchayegi. > Nak-Chedan 120 Hours is also helpful in this regard but age of person > below 35yrs. > I suggest upays according to Varshaphal not Kundlee. > Sir, i thanks to you kyonki kitab mein kaha gaya hai ki " Galti > batane vala sabse achaa dost hoga. Again thanks to you. > > sincerely > > mudit982001 > > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > Respected Mudit jee, > > > > I checked the Lal Kitab {urdu ed. 1952} and other editions I have > > including arun sanhita, I didnot found the doha you have quoted " > > kartooten kafran se badnaam hoga " . Any way the translation of this > > doha is not what you have given ' take good descision but goes > wrong' > > > > the couplet mean ' kartoote-kafran = kafiron jaisi kartoot' kafir > > means ' nonbeliever' one who donot have faith in the religon. > > Therefore the doha means ' he will have bad reputation because of > his > > non-religous acts.' > > > > Now coming to upaya you have suggested : > > > > - not to take milk after dark is right. > > > > BUT > > > > -- why iron goli with dull red paint. This upaya is for Ketu in the > > 1st house with Rahu in the 7th house. The logic of this upaya is > that > > with the help of sat [ iron goli ] and mangal [ red paint ] ketu ko > > dabaya jaa raha hai. Pandit Krishna Ashant in his hindi book > mention > > this upaya on page no 309 { ketu in the first house} .This upaya is > > also for Mercury in the 9th [ page 270 , krishna ashant ] Since > ketu > > is in the 2nd why supress ketu here? > > > > --- offering mushroom in the temple is when Merc is in the 9th , it > > is because merc is placed in the pakka ghar of Jupiter. Where as in > > this kundali budh is already placed in its uchch sthan, then why > this > > upaya? > > > > --- feeding kanya , sister etc again is an upaya for budh . Are you > > sure budh is malefic? > > > > with respect to all the gurujan, > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > > wrote: > > > Dear Shanku, > > > Lagnesha Moon with Rahu in 8th Bhava is not good and book says > that > > > " Kartooten kafran se badnam hoga " mean take good descion but goes > > > wrong. > > > To overcome of problems my suggestios are > > > 1. Do not take milk & milk product in white color after sun-set. > > > 2. Take an Iron ball, colored with dull red paint and put in your > > > pocket. > > > 3. offer Mashroom in temple or any Dharam Sthana. > > > 4. offer some sweets to sister or cousins or girls below 11yrs. > > > Sincerely > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > lalkitab , " shanku_rao2004 " > > > <shanku_rao2004> wrote: > > > > Hello members, > > > > > > > > I've been advised to seek your help to overcome my personal > > > > problems, I request you to analyse my birth chart and advise > > > > measures that I should take to overcome the difficulties. > > > > > > > > My birth date is 5th December, 1970. In my birth chart > > > > > > > > SUN is in 5th > > > > Moon and Rahu are in 8th > > > > Saturn is in 10th > > > > Mercury is in 6th > > > > Ketu is in 2nd > > > > Mars, Jupiter and venus are in 4th > > > > > > > > Lagna is KARAKA(Cancer) > > > > > > > > I'm running SATURN MAHA DASA (till 1/12/2010) and MARS ANTAR > DASA. > > > > (till 25/8/2004) > > > > > > > > After my graduation, I started textile trading business in a > small > > > > way but incurred losses and had close down the business. After > > > > closing down, I studied further so as to look for a job but > till > > now > > > > I'm not able to get a job. > > > > > > > > Please let me know what is wrong and how to solve the problems. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Shanku Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
