Basic doubt Ramayana - Treta Yuga and ''year'' concept.

[Guest guest]

Dear Respected members

 

As i have zero understanding regarding dating of Ramayana etc,i am

refraining from giving any views.

 

But my question is Shri Ramachandra is dated back to Treta Yuga.Was

the calculation of years and span of life similar to that we

measure.If it is different what are finding here using our softwares.

 

Why was the kheer or payasam distributed in such a way.Do we have

different divine consciousness w.r to Yugas.Is it possible the Atma is

one,but the layers associated with it has different perspectives of

time and the same atma is living in different yugas.Did shri

Ramachandra have a higher level of consciousness.

 

Before we understand the country and state can we be sure of the MC

donalds restaurant which we are looking for, which is close to a

railway station and on the right side of the road?Many restaurants can

be situated in any country and satisfy the required land marks.But

will it be the required one?For that we need to fix the major boundaries.

 

These are random thoughts kindly think over.

 

Regds

Pradeep

[Guest guest]

dear pradeepji

 

your basic doubt is a complex one for me since two ramas are

inexplicably intertwined in the forms of mythology and history.

 

according to history, king rama who ruled ayodhya is only few

thousands of years ago. the Vishva Hindu Parishad in its evidence to

the apex court submitted that king rama as per valmiki at modest

estimates could be in 2nd century BC.

 

the mythological rama purportedly featuring only in tretayuga and not

kaliyuga is some millions of years ago.

 

as per mythology, we have each yuga having lakhs and millions of

years and hence there is no way for us to have the birth details of

the mythological rama in treta yuga.

 

due to the mixture of mythology and history, i can conclude that we

cannot have the birth details of the mythological rama dating back

millions of years in treta yuga. but you can have some gestimates

about the historical king rama. here you may get another doubt

whether these two ramas are one and the same or different.

 

wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Respected members

>

> As i have zero understanding regarding dating of Ramayana etc,i am

> refraining from giving any views.

>

> But my question is Shri Ramachandra is dated back to Treta Yuga.Was

> the calculation of years and span of life similar to that we

> measure.If it is different what are finding here using our

softwares.

>

> Why was the kheer or payasam distributed in such a way.Do we have

> different divine consciousness w.r to Yugas.Is it possible the Atma

is

> one,but the layers associated with it has different perspectives of

> time and the same atma is living in different yugas.Did shri

> Ramachandra have a higher level of consciousness.

>

> Before we understand the country and state can we be sure of the MC

> donalds restaurant which we are looking for, which is close to a

> railway station and on the right side of the road?Many restaurants

can

> be situated in any country and satisfy the required land marks.But

> will it be the required one?For that we need to fix the major

boundaries.

>

> These are random thoughts kindly think over.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Arjun ji,

Well said!

==>

Major point

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> your basic doubt is a complex one for me since two ramas are

> inexplicably intertwined in the forms of mythology and history.

Rama 1 (Mythological Rama)

--------------------------

> the mythological rama purportedly featuring only in tretayuga and

> not kaliyuga is some millions of years ago. as per mythology, we

> have each yuga having lakhs and millions of years and hence there

> is no way for us to have the birth details of the mythological

> rama in treta yuga.

Rama 2 (Historical Rama)

------------------------

> according to history, king rama who ruled ayodhya is only few

> thousands of years ago. the Vishva Hindu Parishad in its evidence

> to the apex court submitted that king rama as per valmiki at modest

> estimates could be in 2nd century BC.

<==

And in essence what we are speaking here is about the Birth details

of 'Kali Yuga Rama' born in BC 157 as the horoscope details indicate!

That means things match better.

==>

> due to the mixture of mythology and history, i can conclude that we

> cannot have the birth details of the mythological rama dating back

> millions of years in treta yuga. but you can have some gestimates

> about the historical king rama.

<==

I agree to you completely!

==>

> here you may get another doubt

> whether these two ramas are one and the same or different.

<==

But if this is the state of affairs why should there be a doubt at

all! I believe your statements clearly clarifies the doubts anyone

may have. I request Pradeep ji to watch the clarity of the arguments

presented by Arjun ji and its clear logical foundation. Thanks Arjun

ji for this beautiful note!

Love and Hugs,

Sreenadh

 

, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear pradeepji

>

> your basic doubt is a complex one for me since two ramas are

> inexplicably intertwined in the forms of mythology and history.

>

> according to history, king rama who ruled ayodhya is only few

> thousands of years ago. the Vishva Hindu Parishad in its evidence

to

> the apex court submitted that king rama as per valmiki at modest

> estimates could be in 2nd century BC.

>

> the mythological rama purportedly featuring only in tretayuga and

not

> kaliyuga is some millions of years ago.

>

> as per mythology, we have each yuga having lakhs and millions of

> years and hence there is no way for us to have the birth details of

> the mythological rama in treta yuga.

>

> due to the mixture of mythology and history, i can conclude that we

> cannot have the birth details of the mythological rama dating back

> millions of years in treta yuga. but you can have some gestimates

> about the historical king rama. here you may get another doubt

> whether these two ramas are one and the same or different.

>

> wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> --- In

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > As i have zero understanding regarding dating of Ramayana etc,i am

> > refraining from giving any views.

> >

> > But my question is Shri Ramachandra is dated back to Treta

Yuga.Was

> > the calculation of years and span of life similar to that we

> > measure.If it is different what are finding here using our

> softwares.

> >

> > Why was the kheer or payasam distributed in such a way.Do we have

> > different divine consciousness w.r to Yugas.Is it possible the

Atma

> is

> > one,but the layers associated with it has different perspectives

of

> > time and the same atma is living in different yugas.Did shri

> > Ramachandra have a higher level of consciousness.

> >

> > Before we understand the country and state can we be sure of the

MC

> > donalds restaurant which we are looking for, which is close to a

> > railway station and on the right side of the road?Many

restaurants

> can

> > be situated in any country and satisfy the required land marks.But

> > will it be the required one?For that we need to fix the major

> boundaries.

> >

> > These are random thoughts kindly think over.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Arjun ji

 

Thanks for your views.

I feel the real Vedas is only known to Brahma and they are the four

faces or his Chathur Mukhas.The fourth one is the one that is

not ''seen''.What we have today as Vedas are the interpretations or

written form Shruthis the ''revealed ones''.Upanishads are further

interpretations and we may have to admit a possibility of these

getting diluted with the roll of time.Then Lord had to ''come

again'' with Bhagawat Gita.

Puranas or Ithihasas do have narrative quality ,which is needed so

that the essence of brahma tattwa is understood by common folk.

 

My view is

 

Shree Ramchandra is Paratama Tattwa.Treta Yuga is level of

consciousness.Perception of Time varies with Consciousness level.We

may have to think why did sages say one day of God is One year for

us.One entity called Horse(An Year -Viswa Nara) at higher level has

a ratio of 1:360 w.r to our level.

Yugas have link with movement of Saptarshis.Rishyashringa do fall in

the lineage of those.

 

We will perceive Time differently with respect to consciousness

level is my understanding.Shri Ramachandras mother got 50% of the

payasam is to be noted.Though the Brahma tattwa is indivisible it

can be hidden or revealed fully or partially.Imbalance of

Tattwas/Gunas.

 

Leanred ones may differ.

 

Regds

Pradeep

 

 

, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear pradeepji

>

> your basic doubt is a complex one for me since two ramas are

> inexplicably intertwined in the forms of mythology and history.

>

> according to history, king rama who ruled ayodhya is only few

> thousands of years ago. the Vishva Hindu Parishad in its evidence

to

> the apex court submitted that king rama as per valmiki at modest

> estimates could be in 2nd century BC.

>

> the mythological rama purportedly featuring only in tretayuga and

not

> kaliyuga is some millions of years ago.

>

> as per mythology, we have each yuga having lakhs and millions of

> years and hence there is no way for us to have the birth details

of

> the mythological rama in treta yuga.

>

> due to the mixture of mythology and history, i can conclude that

we

> cannot have the birth details of the mythological rama dating back

> millions of years in treta yuga. but you can have some gestimates

> about the historical king rama. here you may get another doubt

> whether these two ramas are one and the same or different.

>

> wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> --- In

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > As i have zero understanding regarding dating of Ramayana etc,i

am

> > refraining from giving any views.

> >

> > But my question is Shri Ramachandra is dated back to Treta

Yuga.Was

> > the calculation of years and span of life similar to that we

> > measure.If it is different what are finding here using our

> softwares.

> >

> > Why was the kheer or payasam distributed in such a way.Do we have

> > different divine consciousness w.r to Yugas.Is it possible the

Atma

> is

> > one,but the layers associated with it has different perspectives

of

> > time and the same atma is living in different yugas.Did shri

> > Ramachandra have a higher level of consciousness.

> >

> > Before we understand the country and state can we be sure of the

MC

> > donalds restaurant which we are looking for, which is close to a

> > railway station and on the right side of the road?Many

restaurants

> can

> > be situated in any country and satisfy the required land

marks.But

> > will it be the required one?For that we need to fix the major

> boundaries.

> >

> > These are random thoughts kindly think over.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

>