Guest guest Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Dear Anand ji, Please avoid links in mails as far as possible. When links refer to sub-domains etc, those mails goes to the spams section (due to handling of mails suspected by it as spams), and will not appear spontaneously on the group. I will have to review those messages, approve and make them appear in the forum. To avoid all these hassle, please do not include such links in the mail as far as possible. Love, Sreenadh , Anand <anand.ghurye wrote: > > > Dear Friends , > > A sory goes in th puranas ( I do not remember where I read it ) that earlier Abhijit was the nakshatra on the ecliptic and Krittika was not . Much later Abhijit was reduced and Krittika came it . > > Secondly the Abhijit Muhurta is the one straddles the mid noon considered auspicious for all work . > > Regards , > > Anand > > A. K. Ghurye > Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha > > -- ---- ------------- > § Training § Development § Relationships § Synectics > > email : hmm_aha > Home page : growthanddevelopment > http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html > http://anandghurye.blogspot.com/ > -- ---- -------------- > - > Sreenadh > > Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:30 PM > Re: How many Stars? > > > Dear Kumar ji, > ==> > > why is not abhijeet ( vega) not taken into consideration now a days > <== > This question is already answered in one of my previous mail to > magnoflora ji - Read it. To add to it, the star 'Abhijit' is located > far away from ecliptic as well. > > ==> > > what significance does this abhijjet nakshatara have in astrology. > <== > > From the ancient past the Muhurtas gets associated with Nakshatras. > One of the Muhurata is of the name Abhijit. Thus in the selection of > Muhurta Abhijit Nakshatra and the nature assigned to it comes into > play; and thus it becomes a bit important in Muhurta selection. > Of course there are some other instances as well in which Abhijit > and the nature assigned to it are considered; though not much > relevant. For example - > * In several Chakras used for predictionn by some astrologers. > * By some in predictive astrology to fine tune the results ascribed > to 4th quarter of Uttrada. > All bits and pieces, part of the old history of 28th part division > of the LUNAR Path. > > Love, > Sreenadh > > , hit man > <hit_man334@> wrote: > > > > dear sreenadh ji, > > sorry for interfering in your thread but isnt there 28 stars ( 27 > + abhijeet nakshatara ) ,why is not abhijeet ( vega) not taken into > consideration now a days.what significance does this abhijjet > nakshatara have in astrology. > > please clarify, > > regards , > > Kumar M. > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > Dear Magnolia ji, > > ==> > > > I am really interested to know the imaginary (vedic) construction > > > of these constellations. And learn about all 27 nakshatras with > > > their shapes and number of stars in each constellation. Is there > > > any authentic list for that? Does someone know about this? > > <== > > I cannot give you the modern scientific name of these stars, or > > other such details - because I am not an authority on the same. But > > of course I can give you info such as - > > * the names of these stars and their meaning > > * a brief description of the change in names and the possible > reason > > for such changes > > * The number of stars in case when stars in specific constellations > > are referenced (as per later books) etc. > > > > But this much info in not as simple as can be answered > > spontaneously, since it takes effort to prepare a detailed answer. > I > > am not currently free now, I will keep your question in mind and as > > and when I get free time I will try to prepare a document that > > answers this question in detail and try to upload it in the group. > Of > > course there could be other members as well in the group who could > > answer the same question, you may wait for an answer from them as > > well. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > --- In , " magnolia_flora " > > <magnoflora@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shreenadhji, > > > > > > Anyway, now you are atleast agreeing with me that these taras are > > > not imaginary but are real constellations, which are existing > upon > > > this sky. That was my intention of question. The Astological > > > approach to calculate the perfect movement may have added or > > deleted > > > some of the stars. I am not at all arguing on that subject. But I > > am > > > really interested to know the imaginary (vedic) construction of > > > these constellations. And learn about all 27 nakshatras with > their > > > shapes and number of stars in each constellation. Is there any > > > authentic list for that? Does someone know about this? > > > > > > With respect. > > > Magnolia Flora > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Magnolia ji, > > > > The word " Nakshatra " has the sanskrit nirukti " Na Kherati iti > > > > Nakshatra " meaning " the one which does not move is termed > > > Nakshatra " . > > > > In this sence the word " Nakshatra " always (whether it is 28 > part > > > > division or 27 part division) refer to fixed divisions. In > Vedas > > > this > > > > word is ALWAYS used to refer to such fixed divisions only. When > > > ever > > > > they had to refer to stars they have used the > > > words " Tara " , " Rksha " > > > > etc. > > > > 28 part unequal division of the Lunar Path > > > > --------- > > > > Intially the Vedas used the 28 unequal division of the LUNAR > > PATH > > > > (the path of Moon). > > > > * These divisions were unequal in area they covered. > > > > * All the " Yoga Taras " (and the major stars in the > > > constellations > > > > those names can indicate) were within those UNEQAL divisions. > > > > The 28 part division came into existence because the Moon takes > > > 27 > > > > 1/3 days to make a complete circle around earth. Thus one of > > these > > > > divisions (i.e. Abhijit) covered very less area only. > > > > > > > > 27 part equal division of the Ecliptic > > > > ----- > > > > Due to preferences in Moon's motion this became 28 part unequal > > > > division of Lunar Path became unreliable, and thus originate > the > > > > system of using equal 27 divisions, by associating the the > > > divisions > > > > with the ECLIPTIC instead of LUNAR PATH. When the divisions > > become > > > > equal (covering 13 degree 20 min each) and got associated with > > > > ECLIPTIC, the words that were used also to denote the Yogataras > > > that > > > > were falling with in the 28 part division lost their meaning; > > they > > > > became simple NAMES of each division. > > > > * These divisions were equal in area they covered; i.e. 13 > > > degree > > > > 20 min each. > > > > * Some of the " Yoga Taras " of the earlier unequal division > > > became > > > > outside these divisions. > > > > * The division Abhijit used earlier was dropped from the list. > > > > * This was a better scientific approach to have a FIXED FRAME > > > WORK > > > > basd on which the sky could be studied. In this co-ordinate > > system > > > > the line joining the ecliptic with the First point of Aswini > > > > (Aswinyadi) becomes the Y-Axis and the Ecliptic becomes the X- > > Axis. > > > > > > > > Value and Relevence of Nakshatra names and their meaning > > > > ------------------------- > > > > Even though after the 27 equal part division, the Nakshatra > > > names > > > > has one name sake importance; those names help us understand > the > > > > scientific understanding with which they usually named > > > the " Taras " . > > > > This applies not only to the names of stars this Nakshtra names > > > could > > > > refer but also to other stars such > > as " Trisanku " , " Dhruva " , " Sapta > > > > Rksha " etc as well. For example - > > > > * Rohini derives its name from the word " Lohita " which means > > Red. > > > As > > > > you may know Rohini is an ancient star, a read gaint. > > > > * The same is true about " Jyeshta " (the oldest or the eldest). > > > This > > > > too is a red giant. > > > > * " Moola " refers to the " Root " (of the Galaxy) Milky way (Akasa > > > > Ganga = the Ganges in the sky). " Moola Barhini " was the older > > name > > > > for this star; which means " that which expands from a root like > a > > > > spiral " . > > > > * Bharani derives its name from the word " Apa Bharani " (it was > > > the > > > > name used earlier, as mentioned in Vedas), indicating the > > presence > > > of > > > > Apa (=Water). That means, once rainy season must have been > > > associated > > > > withthis star. > > > > * Aswini as you mentioned " Horse Faced " or " Horse Head " . > Because > > > > this was a star at the head of a constellation for which the > > vedic > > > > people imagined the shape of a horse. > > > > * Krittika refers to Blade that is used to cut hear etc; i.e. > > > > Scissor like shape. This is one of the stars in constellation > for > > > > which the ancients imagined the shape of a scissor. This group > > > > contains 6 or more stars. > > > > In the same way we can understand a great deal about the > > > > understanding of the Vedic people about the sky from those > names. > > > As > > > > mentioned earlier this is not limited to earlier Yogatara names > > > > alone. The other star names such as " Trisanku " , " Dhruva " etc > can > > > also > > > > impart much knowledge to us about their understanding. > > > > > > > > It should also be remembered that in the long history of Vedas > > > the > > > > names of several stars changed. Some examples would be the > > earlier > > > > names used such as " Elvala " , " Bahu " etc. Just have a primary > > study > > > > and try to understand - > > > > * Which stars these names referred to? > > > > * Why their names changed? > > > > * What was the relevance of the new names? etc. > > > > Such investigative study of the ancient knowledge is greatly > > > > interesting and is sure to impart much knowledge. > > > > Hope the point is clear. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > --- In > , " magnolia_flora " > > > > <magnoflora@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Shreenadh, > > > > > If it is like as you wrote, then tell me about " Nakshatra > > > Suktha " > > > > > mentioned Vedas. Do you agree that all the 27 names are there > > in > > > > > Vedas or not? If it is there in Vedas, then what are the > > > meanings > > > > of > > > > > those names? Example:Ashwini=Horse Faced, Bharani= Womb, > > Rohini= > > > > > Ratha Krittika=Cropper Blade Mrigashira=Head of deer etc. > > > > > > > > > > Why these different shapes has been given and characteristics > > > > > mentioned if they are not constellations? > > > > > > > > > > With Regards > > > > > Magnolia Flora > > > > > --- In , " Sreenadh " > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear magnoflora ji, > > > > > > The Indian system in NOT refering to the CONSTALLATIONS > > > using > > > > > the > > > > > > words Rasis or Nakshatras. > > > > > > As per indian astrology, Rasis refer to 30 Degree Equal > > > > division > > > > > of > > > > > > the Zodiac; Fixed divisions starting from the from the > first > > > > point > > > > > of > > > > > > Aries and Aswini Nakshatra. Similarly Nakshatra means fixed > > > > > division of > > > > > > 13 degree 20 minute each, starting from Aswini Nakshatra. > > > > > > To refer to the stars the word used by ancient people > > > is 'Tara' > > > > > and > > > > > > NOT Nakshatra. Nakshatra always referred to " fixed > divisions " > > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > ancient past; and even in Vedas. > > > > > > Thus Rasi and Nakshatra refer to " Area of sky " ; the first > > > > > referring > > > > > > to 30 degree arc and the second to 13 degree 20 minute arc; > > > NOT > > > > to > > > > > any > > > > > > stars or constellations. > > > > > > > > > > > > To Kaul ji: Please don't intercept this conversation; We > will > > > > > discuss > > > > > > the opinion difference and present our argument with > > > supporting > > > > > > evidence in this forum it self. Let us search for > the 'Truth' > > > as > > > > > you > > > > > > mentioned. But let the small independent threads go by > their > > > > > own. > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " magnolia_flora " > > > > > > <magnoflora@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure that these 27 Nakshatras are also > consteallations > > > > like > > > > > 12 > > > > > > > Rashis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But is there any perfect scientific table to discribe all > > > those > > > > > 27 > > > > > > > Ashwini, Bharani, etc? Really of how many stars are there > > in > > > > > these 27 > > > > > > > Nakshatras? (For example Krittika is having 6 stars.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will be a great help to me to understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with > FareChase. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
