Guest guest Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/26/2009 3:49:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/26/2009 3:06:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > fewtch@ writes: > > > > Nisargadatta , souldreamone@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The gap is 'behind' thought, not within it. > > > > > > > > > ***I don't know what that means. > > > > " That which is seeing thought " is the gap. It's easier to apperceive > this > > when thought is quiet, but I don't really know what you mean by " a gap > in > > thought " . Thought is more like a flow... too rapid to stop it and > examine > > something through a gap. > > > > > > ***Awareness has a focus of attention. It may be attention to thought, > in > > which case it is not attention to that which is aware of thoughts. That > > which is present in the gap is Awareness, which is also what is seeing > > thought. > > What is it that sees awareness seeing thought? > > -- D. > > > > ***Nothing sees Awareness seeing thought. The seeing of thought IS > Awareness seeing. (The thought is also Awareness thoughting. hehe) Yes, it turns into an infinite regress of something seeing something that sees something. So, the infinite regress collapses. That which is seeing is the thing seen. End of story. Once you are clear here, there is no word defining the situation. There's no distance apart to form a comment. Any word that is happening as part of the scenery (such as " my nose is itching " or " thou art that " or " thou are not that " ) is equally an aspect of the seeing-seen nondividedness. It has never not been like this. No commentary about it ever occurred or was needed. Or, if you want, provide a great commentary about something, anything you'd like. Great comments are great. But this still won't be commented about. End of stories. Love to All, Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Yes, it turns into an infinite regress of something seeing something that sees something. > > So, the infinite regress collapses. > > That which is seeing is the thing seen. > > End of story. > > Once you are clear here, there is no word defining the situation. Indeed so. There's no infinite regress, and not because of what you said prior to " end of story " . But because the story never began. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Yes, it turns into an infinite regress of something seeing something that sees something. > > > > So, the infinite regress collapses. > > > > That which is seeing is the thing seen. > > > > End of story. > > > > Once you are clear here, there is no word defining the situation. > > Indeed so. There's no infinite regress, and not because of what you said prior to " end of story " . But because the story never began. The story about how there is no story? I've heard that one before <s>. If there is to be a story of no story, then there can't be. If there is, there isn't. What to do, what to do? Dastardly. Insidious. The story of no-story strikes again! How to arrange letters in sentences from now on? - D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Indeed so. There's no infinite regress, and not because of what > > you said prior to " end of story " . But because the story never > > began. > > > The story about how there is no story? > > I've heard that one before <s>. > > If there is to be a story of no story, then there can't be. > > If there is, there isn't. > > What to do, what to do? > > Dastardly. > > Insidious. > > The story of no-story strikes again! > > How to arrange letters in sentences from now on? > > > - D I didn't say there was no story. I said the story never began. If the story began, when did it begin? If you say now, you'll have to admit that it ends now, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Indeed so. There's no infinite regress, and not because of what > > you said prior to " end of story " . But because the story never > > > began. > > > > > > The story about how there is no story? > > > > I've heard that one before <s>. > > > > If there is to be a story of no story, then there can't be. > > > > If there is, there isn't. > > > > What to do, what to do? > > > > Dastardly. > > > > Insidious. > > > > The story of no-story strikes again! > > > > How to arrange letters in sentences from now on? > > > > > > - D > > I didn't say there was no story. I said the story never began. > > If the story began, when did it begin? > > If you say now, you'll have to admit that it ends now, too. I have no story for you. I have no story. No story. Nothing stored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Indeed so. There's no infinite regress, and not because of what > > you said prior to " end of story " . But because the story never > > > > began. > > > > > > > > > The story about how there is no story? > > > > > > I've heard that one before <s>. > > > > > > If there is to be a story of no story, then there can't be. > > > > > > If there is, there isn't. > > > > > > What to do, what to do? > > > > > > Dastardly. > > > > > > Insidious. > > > > > > The story of no-story strikes again! > > > > > > How to arrange letters in sentences from now on? > > > > > > > > > - D > > > > I didn't say there was no story. I said the story never began. > > > > If the story began, when did it begin? > > > > If you say now, you'll have to admit that it ends now, too. > > > I have no story for you. > > I have no story. > > No story. > > Nothing stored. psst...dan.. everyone already knew. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
