Request Explanation of Gita 8:3 amd Gita 8:4

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Respected All,

 

I request my peers on this divine group to explain the meanings of

the 3rd and 4th sloka of the Bhagwat Gita's 8th Chapter.

 

" Aksharam brahma parmam swabhavah adhyatma uchyate/

bhutabhavodbhavakarah visargah karmasangyitah (3)

and,

Adhibhootam ksharah bhavah purusha aadhidaivtam/

adhiyagyah ahmevatra dehe dehbhritam vara " (4).

 

Also, some of the similar terms are used in the 29th and 30th sloka

of the 7th Chapter.

 

I have been reading time and again these lines and their

interpretations by Swami Ramsukhdaji in the Gita Prabodhini and

Sadhak Sanjivini. Tried my best in understanding the meanings of

these lines in the Gyaneshawari, Shankari Bhashya and some of the

other commentaries by past and contemporary scholars/saints.

Yet, I am at a fix to grasp the real meanings of these lines.

 

Shall be grateful for enlightenment in this context in simple and

logistic expressions.

 

Kind regards,

Suresh C Sharma

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Respected All,

 

I request my peers on this divine group to explain the meanings of

the 3rd and 4th sloka of the Bhagwat Gita's 8th Chapter.

 

" Aksharam brahma parmam swabhavah adhyatma uchyate/

bhutabhavodbhavakarah visargah karmasangyitah (3)

and,

Adhibhootam ksharah bhavah purusha aadhidaivtam/

adhiyagyah ahmevatra dehe dehbhritam vara " (4).

 

Also, some of the similar terms are used in the 29th and 30th sloka

of the 7th Chapter.

 

I have been reading time and again these lines and their

interpretations by Swami Ramsukhdaji in the Gita Prabodhini and

Sadhak Sanjivini. Tried my best in understanding the meanings of

these lines in the Gyaneshawari, Shankari Bhashya and some of the

other commentaries by past and contemporary scholars/saints.

Yet, I am at a fix to grasp the real meanings of these lines.

 

Shall be grateful for enlightenment in this context in simple and

logistic expressions.

 

Kind regards,

Suresh C Sharma

 

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Dear Friend

Seven Questions are asked by Arjuna in Verses 1 and 2 of 8th

Chapter and their answer is provided by Bhagwan in verses 3,4 & 5

of 8th Chapter, as under:-

 

1)What is the nature of Brahm.

The one who is indestructible, who never perishes /dies, is the

Brahm.

Aksharm means a-shar , which does not perishes or exhausts. Only

Brahm Does not get exhausted /destroyed/perished. Brahm is

permanent.

 

2)What is the nature of Adhyatma

Being steady in the nature of Self is adhyatma or dominance of

the Soul. Before this stage everyone is ruled by maya, but when a

man dwells firmly in his own true nature (Sw-bhav) and not Maya,

he is infused with the sense of supremacy of his Self. This is the

highest point of adhyatma.

 

3) What is the nature of Karma

The ceasing/ discontinuance of the traits/sanskars of beings

which results in both good and bad Karma (action ) is Karma

Men act according to the compulsions of their nature. They are

impelled to act by their inherent traits. Perfect Action is when

the desires/ traits (Bhaav or Sanskar) of beings which creates

action (karma) both good and bad are dissolved or stilled.

 

4)What is Adhibhoota

State of mortality /destructibilty is Adhibhoot for beings and

this state is the cause and source of the origin of beings

 

5)What is Adhidaiv

One who is beyond nature is adhidaiv, owning all the devs.

 

6)Who is a adhiyagya and how is he within the body?

Bhagwan says - I am adhiyagya in the human body. Thus God himself,

dwelling as the unmanifest Soul in the body, is adhiyagya.

 

7)How does a man know you at the endtime .

Man who departs from body remembering me attains me ,without any

doubt.

 

It is difficult for me to find English words conveying the exact

meaning of Sanskrit words and for that reason I have mentioned

Hindi/Sanskrit word in bracket.

 

It would be my pleasure to explain further any specific answer.

Regards

Ashok Jain

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" Aksharam brahma parmam swabhavah adhyatma uchyate/

bhutabhavodbhavakar ah visargah karmasangyitah (3)

 

In Aksharam Om (aum) the non destructable having NO beginning or end-

- Bramam supreme eternal power -- (swabhavah) does not change, --

Adhyatma, THAT which can elevate one to realize Athuman as Aham

Bramasmi,---Uchyate, Keep consistingly concentrating on HIM (Brama)

and pronounce HIS names, so that at the time of death last breath HE

will elevate you.--- Failing to do this, comes Visargah--Special

creativity of Bramam- means entangling forces of HIS creation to put

one in use of organs to create bodies resulting in birth and death

cycle.

Names--Om Namo Narayanaya- Om Kesavaya- Om Achudaya Etc

 

Adhibhootam ksharah bhavah purusha aadhidaivtam/

adhiyagyah ahmevatra dehe dehbhritam vara " (4).

 

All elements sound, light & Panch boothas are perishable. Doing ones

duty by way of Yagna or Karma (action) dedicating as " Narayanayethi

Samarpayame " reaches HIM as HE exists in all, through demi gods and

Sun. Sri Visnu is presiding in all and HE is giver of fruits of

Yagna. But if Karma done for Pala it gives results to 3 gunas making

enjoyer of fruits (pleasures and sorrows). So sadaks should have

always have in mind about achieving divinity rather than anything

(adhibhootam) on earth.

Jai Sri Krishna

baiya sathyanarayan

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HARIOM

 

Lord Krishna said: The eternal and immutable Spirit of the Supreme

Being is called Eternal Being or the Spirit. Basic nature, powers,

and expansions of Eternal Being are called Adhy|tma or the nature of

Eternal Being. The creative power or urge of Eternal Being that

causes manifestation of the living entity is called Karma. (8.03)

 

Mortal beings, made up of the five basic elements, are changeable or

temporal. Various expansions of the Supreme Being are called Divine

Beings. I, the Supreme Being reside inside the physical bodies as the

Divine Controller and Supreme Enjoyer (Ishvara), O Arjuna. (8.04)

 

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namaste everyone,

 

I love Geeta & have been hearing this Akshar brahman yog many times specially these lines.

 

Thus according to Geeta > Adhidaiva & Supreme(krishna\vasudev) are different !!! Is my understanding correct ?

 

Pls reply

 

Sujeet