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'INAUSPICIOUS TIME OF OATH BY THE NEXT U S PRESIDENT – a debate'

The next US President shall take oath on 20th January, 2009 – which is observed as inauspicious time as per Vedic / Indian system of electional (Muhurt) astrology. Discussion herein is based on Indian system (Nirayana - Sidereal system) of astrology.

The oath is generally taken around mid-day on 20th January when according to Indian system of astrology, Aries 21º shall be rising, with Moon in 8th house (6º 15´ - Scorpio, Anuradha asterism). While Jupiter (9º 33´ – combust), Mercury ( 6º 38´– is combust & retrograde) and Rahu are with the Sun (6º 49´) are in the 10th house. Mars lord of ascendant and 8th is in 9th house. There is exchange between 5th lord Sun and 10th lord Saturn, while the latter is in 5th house. Venus is in 11th house. Exact time of oath taking and the astro details of the oath taker are not known, therefore divisional charts and beneficence of the time for the individual are not discussed herein.

However it is essential, rather fundamental, that the election time is universally auspicious with co-occurrence of Muhurt Yogas (special electional combinations) and Panchanga Shuddhi (purified ephemeris time); in addition to beneficial time in respect of transits of planets & Dasha (Hindu progressions), to the individual taking oath. The day is Tuesday – considered malefic for taking oath / coronation; and certainly before mid-day. The 10th Tithi, is beneficial being Poorna, but the Moon is waning (Dark Half - Krishan Paksha), and thus weak. Further Dark Half (Krishan Paksha) in general not augurs expansions / developements. Anuradha asterism, in general, is held as beneficial for oath ceremony but the Tara Bala (stellar strength) & favourable transit for the individual is to be examined with respect to the person taking oath. Vishti Karan (Bhadra) is universally held as the most inauspicious for such ceremonies; and it gets further ferocious with concurrence of Tuesday- shall certain to have adverse effects. Presence of inauspicious "Shula Yoga" further adds to inauspiciousness. Thus four out the five elements of Hindu Panchanga (ephemeris) four are not favourable.

There is no beneficial Special Muhurt Yoga (special electional combinations) present on 20th January, 2009 for auguring the said time as universally auspicious. Combination of 10th Tithi and Tuesday makes “Karkacha Yoga” – an adverse Yoga. Concurrence of Tuesday and Anuradha asterism makes “Kuyoga” held as malefic. The Moon shall be in 24th asterism from that of the transiting Sun, causing “Upgraha Dosha” – adverse for especially for marriage, travel and house related elections. Thus there is no assistance from any Special Muhurt Yogas, considered essential for a beneficial election.

In the election chart, the Moon is in 8th house – held as highly prohibited for initiating any beneficial activity. It causes adverse instability in the mind of the doer. Though its debilitation effects in 8th house gets cancelled/ nullified to some extent, but shall have adverse effects on homes / houses, transport system and public in general of the country, with regards to their damage / destruction / losses. Retrograde & combust Mercury may cause severe adverse effects on communication systems, army, Government employees and servants. As per old Western school of thought in astrology, the Mercury being Cazimi, shall have beneficial effects. But Most of the modern followers do not agree with this old thought. Difference in their longitude is 0º 11´ 38˝, but some savior is that their declinations are different. Retrograde planet especially Mercury is held by Western astrologers as certainly unfavourable in important elections. Lord of luck (9th house lord) Jupiter, is combust and in the same Navamsha with the Sun; being functional malefic for Aries ascendant, may cause instability & disrepute to the ruler. Retrograde Saturn may breed some new unusual and unpleasant steps in diplomacy & governance; some of which shall be withdrawn at latter stages. Income, trade, wealth of the country shall certainly expand and flourish. Thus election chart does not augurs towards beneficence.

The detailed analysis can only be made after knowing the exact time of the taking oath; but the above effects can be mitigated to some lessor extent. From 12 hrs 0 min to 12 hrs 38 min ( 18h 0 m to 18 h 39 m GMT) 'Abhijin Muhurt' prevails, which has immense power to reduce / annihilate adverse effects – as per Vedic astrology. Further Mars as lord of the ascendant in 9th house is another beneficial aspect in the election chart, but its sign lord Jupiter being cobust shall take away most of its beneficence. But in general the said time is not observed as auspicious for taking oath by the head of state of the most powerful country.

The purpose of this article is to trigger an academic discussion among the electional astrologers to examine the suitability of the oath time and possibility of recommending another suitable time, after thorough debate, getting benefits from the Vedic / Indian electional astrology which has withstood test of time.The discussion here is purely on academic basis. Adverse effects of the Moon in 8th house and retrograde Mercury in the electional chart, are also well accepted by electional astrologers following western system of astrology.

( A copy of discussion under "Electional Astrology" - in wikipedia is placed here)

ShridharvkShridharvk (talk) 06:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

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Dear Sandhu Ji,

 

The above thread was started by me in June, 2008. in this web site.

 

There was only one response.I had put this in wikipedia for discussion, so that timeley action could be taken by so called western astrologers ,who have recently started using electional (MUHURT) astrology.

 

The thread is reproduced belo

 

... V K Shridhar

=====================

 

<FONT color=red><FONT color=red><FONT color=black>The thread titled "INAUSPICIOUS TIME OF OATH BY THE NEXT US PRESIDENT - a debate" was started by me in the month of June, 2008, that the time of oath by the next US president on 20th Jan, 2009, is not auspicious as per the Vedic / Indian system of Muhurt branch of astrology. Now the next prersident has been elected, and his appointment shall have world wide effects. A thought is hereby trigerred in the minds of the astrological feternity to adivse in the matter,and to contribute opnion in time. The matter should be debated only on astrological aspects.

</B>

There is controversy about date of birth of the next elected US president. This may also be debated. More should be brought to the debate, supporting his birth data.

The thread is reproduced below again.

... V K Shridhar

----------

 

http://www.besttime-election.com

 

 

Author of "Hindu Electional Astrology" - the best seller compendium on Vedic /Hindu system of Muhurt ( Electional ) astrology.

 

 

 

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INAUSPICIOUS TIME OF OATH BY THE NEXT US PRESIDENT

<FONT]<FONT color="#f00000">– a debate

The next US President shall take oath on <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com%7Boption%7Dhttp://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/ /><st1:country-region><st1:place><font color=" /><st1:date Year="2009" Day="20" Month="1"><FONT color=black>20<SUP>th</SUP> January, 2009</st1:date><FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman"> – which is observed as inauspicious time as per Vedic / Indian system of electional (Muhurt) astrology. Discussion herein is based on Indian system (Nirayana - Sidereal system) of astrology.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">The oath is generally taken around mid-day on 20<SUP>th</SUP> January when according to Indian system of astrology Aries 21º shall be rising, with Moon in 8<SUP>th</SUP> house (6º 15<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">´<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman"> - Scorpio, Anuradha asterism); While the Jupiter (9º 33<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">´<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman"> – combust), Mercury ( 6º 38 – is combust & retrograde) and Rahu are with the Sun ( 6º 49<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">´<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">) are in the 10<SUP>th</SUP> house. Mars lord of ascendant and 8<SUP>th</SUP> is in 9<SUP>th</SUP> house. There is exchange of 5<SUP>th</SUP> lord Sun and 10<SUP>th</SUP> lord Saturn. Venus is in 11<SUP>th</SUP> house. Exact time of oath taking and the astro details of the oath taker are not known, therefore divisional charts and beneficence of the for the individual are not discussed. However it is essential that the election time is universally auspicious with co-occurrence of Muhurt Yogas and Panchaga Shuddhi; in addition to beneficial time in respect of transits of planets & Dasha, to the individual taking oath.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">The day is Tuesday – considered malefic for taking oath / coronation; and certainly before mid-day.10<SUP>th</SUP> Tithi is beneficial being Poorna, but the Moon is waning, and thus weak. Anuradha asterism is held as beneficial for oath ceremony but its Tara Bala (strength) & favourable transit for the individual is to be examined with respect to the person taking oath. <FONT color=red>Vishti Karan (Bhadra) is universally held as the most inauspicious for such ceremonies; and it gets further ferocious with concurrence of Tuesday. Presence of inauspicious Shula Yoga further adds to inauspiciousness. Thus four out the five elements of Hindu Panchanga four are not in favour.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">There is no beneficial Yoga present on <st1:date Year="2009" Day="20" Month="1"><FONT color=black>20<SUP>th</SUP> January, 2009</st1:date><FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman"> for auguring the said time as universally auspicious. Combination of 10<SUP>th</SUP> Tithi and Tuesday makes “<FONT color=red><FONT face="Times New Roman">Karkacha Yoga” – an adverse Yoga. Concurrence of Tuesday and Anuradha asterism makes “<FONT color=red>Kuyoga” held as malefic. The Moon shall be in 24<SUP>th</SUP> asterism from that of the transiting Sun, causing “<FONT color=red>Upgraha Dosha” – adverse for especially for marriage, travel and house related elections. Thus there is no assistance from any special Muhurt Yogas, considered essential for a beneficial election.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">In the election chart, the Moon is in 8<SUP>th</SUP> house – held as highly prohibited for initiating any beneficial activity. Thought its debilitation effects in 8<SUP>th</SUP> house gets cancelled, but shall have adverse effects on homes / houses, transport system and public in general of the country, with regards to their damage / destruction / losses. Retrograde & combust Mercury may cause severe adverse effects on communication systems, army, Government employees and servants. As per old Western school of thought in astrology, the Mercury being Cazimi, shall have beneficial effects. But Most of the modern followers do not agree with this old thought. Difference in their longitude is 0º 11<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">´<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman"> 38<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">˝<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">, but some savior is that their declination is different. Retrograde planet especially Mercury is held by Western astrologers as certainly unfavourable in important elections. Lord of luck (9<SUP>th</SUP> house lord) Jupiter is combust and in the same Navamsha with the Sun; being functional malefic for Aries ascendant, may cause instability & disrepute to the ruler. Retrograde Saturn may breed some new unusual and unpleasant steps in diplomacy & governance; some of which shall be withdrawn at latter stages. Income, trade, wealth of the country shall certainly expand and flourish. Thus election chart does not augurs towards beneficence.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">The detailed analysis can only be made after knowing the exact time of taking oath; but the above effects can be mitigated to some extent. From 12 hrs 0 min to 12 hrs 38 min, Abhijin / Abhijit Muhurt prevails, which has immense power to reduce / annihilate adverse effects – as per Vedic astrology. Further Mars as lord of the ascendant in 9<SUP>th</SUP> house is another beneficial aspect in the election chart. But in general the said time is not observed as auspicious for taking oath by the head of state of the most powerful country.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">The purpose of this article is to trigger a discussion among the Muhurt astrologers (both from east & west) to examine the suitability of the oath time and possibility of recommending another suitable time, after thorough debate, getting benefits Vedic electional astrology which has withstood test of time for the last 5 millenniums. Muhurt (electional) astrology was originated in Vedic era, and is considered as the most useful branch of Hindu astrology. Of late westren astrologers have also started following it. But need of the hour is that remedial advice should be given in advance.

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">--- V K Shridhar

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Dear VK ji,

 

I had guessed that this article belongs to you and thus i posted it on purpose to let others benifit from the light of your knowledge, its great to have you here.

 

Regards

 

J.s.sandhu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sandhu Ji,

 

The above thread was started by me in June, 2008. in this web site.

 

There was only one response.I had put this in wikipedia for discussion, so that timeley action could be taken by so called western astrologers ,who have recently started using electional (MUHURT) astrology.

 

The thread is reproduced belo

 

... V K Shridhar

=====================

 

<FONT color=red><FONT color=red><FONT color=black>The thread titled "INAUSPICIOUS TIME OF OATH BY THE NEXT US PRESIDENT - a debate" was started by me in the month of June, 2008, that the time of oath by the next US president on 20th Jan, 2009, is not auspicious as per the Vedic / Indian system of Muhurt branch of astrology. Now the next prersident has been elected, and his appointment shall have world wide effects. A thought is hereby trigerred in the minds of the astrological feternity to adivse in the matter,and to contribute opnion in time. The matter should be debated only on astrological aspects.

</B>

There is controversy about date of birth of the next elected US president. This may also be debated. More should be brought to the debate, supporting his birth data.

The thread is reproduced below again.

... V K Shridhar

----------

 

http://www.besttime-election.com

 

 

Author of "Hindu Electional Astrology" - the best seller compendium on Vedic /Hindu system of Muhurt ( Electional ) astrology.

 

 

 

================================================== ======

 

INAUSPICIOUS TIME OF OATH BY THE NEXT US PRESIDENT

<FONT]<FONT color="#f00000">– a debate

The next US President shall take oath on <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com%7Boption%7Dhttp://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/ /><st1:country-region><st1:place><font color=" /><st1:date Month="1" Day="20" Year="2009"><FONT color=black>20<SUP>th</SUP> January, 2009</st1:date><FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman"> – which is observed as inauspicious time as per Vedic / Indian system of electional (Muhurt) astrology. Discussion herein is based on Indian system (Nirayana - Sidereal system) of astrology.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">The oath is generally taken around mid-day on 20<SUP>th</SUP> January when according to Indian system of astrology Aries 21º shall be rising, with Moon in 8<SUP>th</SUP> house (6º 15<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">´<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman"> - Scorpio, Anuradha asterism); While the Jupiter (9º 33<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">´<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman"> – combust), Mercury ( 6º 38 – is combust & retrograde) and Rahu are with the Sun ( 6º 49<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">´<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">) are in the 10<SUP>th</SUP> house. Mars lord of ascendant and 8<SUP>th</SUP> is in 9<SUP>th</SUP> house. There is exchange of 5<SUP>th</SUP> lord Sun and 10<SUP>th</SUP> lord Saturn. Venus is in 11<SUP>th</SUP> house. Exact time of oath taking and the astro details of the oath taker are not known, therefore divisional charts and beneficence of the for the individual are not discussed. However it is essential that the election time is universally auspicious with co-occurrence of Muhurt Yogas and Panchaga Shuddhi; in addition to beneficial time in respect of transits of planets & Dasha, to the individual taking oath.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">The day is Tuesday – considered malefic for taking oath / coronation; and certainly before mid-day.10<SUP>th</SUP> Tithi is beneficial being Poorna, but the Moon is waning, and thus weak. Anuradha asterism is held as beneficial for oath ceremony but its Tara Bala (strength) & favourable transit for the individual is to be examined with respect to the person taking oath. <FONT color=red>Vishti Karan (Bhadra) is universally held as the most inauspicious for such ceremonies; and it gets further ferocious with concurrence of Tuesday. Presence of inauspicious Shula Yoga further adds to inauspiciousness. Thus four out the five elements of Hindu Panchanga four are not in favour.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">There is no beneficial Yoga present on <st1:date Month="1" Day="20" Year="2009"><FONT color=black>20<SUP>th</SUP> January, 2009</st1:date><FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman"> for auguring the said time as universally auspicious. Combination of 10<SUP>th</SUP> Tithi and Tuesday makes “<FONT color=red><FONT face="Times New Roman">Karkacha Yoga” – an adverse Yoga. Concurrence of Tuesday and Anuradha asterism makes “<FONT color=red>Kuyoga” held as malefic. The Moon shall be in 24<SUP>th</SUP> asterism from that of the transiting Sun, causing “<FONT color=red>Upgraha Dosha” – adverse for especially for marriage, travel and house related elections. Thus there is no assistance from any special Muhurt Yogas, considered essential for a beneficial election.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">In the election chart, the Moon is in 8<SUP>th</SUP> house – held as highly prohibited for initiating any beneficial activity. Thought its debilitation effects in 8<SUP>th</SUP> house gets cancelled, but shall have adverse effects on homes / houses, transport system and public in general of the country, with regards to their damage / destruction / losses. Retrograde & combust Mercury may cause severe adverse effects on communication systems, army, Government employees and servants. As per old Western school of thought in astrology, the Mercury being Cazimi, shall have beneficial effects. But Most of the modern followers do not agree with this old thought. Difference in their longitude is 0º 11<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">´<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman"> 38<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">˝<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">, but some savior is that their declination is different. Retrograde planet especially Mercury is held by Western astrologers as certainly unfavourable in important elections. Lord of luck (9<SUP>th</SUP> house lord) Jupiter is combust and in the same Navamsha with the Sun; being functional malefic for Aries ascendant, may cause instability & disrepute to the ruler. Retrograde Saturn may breed some new unusual and unpleasant steps in diplomacy & governance; some of which shall be withdrawn at latter stages. Income, trade, wealth of the country shall certainly expand and flourish. Thus election chart does not augurs towards beneficence.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">The detailed analysis can only be made after knowing the exact time of taking oath; but the above effects can be mitigated to some extent. From 12 hrs 0 min to 12 hrs 38 min, Abhijin / Abhijit Muhurt prevails, which has immense power to reduce / annihilate adverse effects – as per Vedic astrology. Further Mars as lord of the ascendant in 9<SUP>th</SUP> house is another beneficial aspect in the election chart. But in general the said time is not observed as auspicious for taking oath by the head of state of the most powerful country.

<FONT color=black>

<FONT color=black><FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">The purpose of this article is to trigger a discussion among the Muhurt astrologers (both from east & west) to examine the suitability of the oath time and possibility of recommending another suitable time, after thorough debate, getting benefits Vedic electional astrology which has withstood test of time for the last 5 millenniums. Muhurt (electional) astrology was originated in Vedic era, and is considered as the most useful branch of Hindu astrology. Of late westren astrologers have also started following it. But need of the hour is that remedial advice should be given in advance.

<FONT color=black><FONT face="Times New Roman">--- V K Shridhar

<FONT color=black>

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Sri V.K.Shridhar,

I have seen your replies given to members. You hint the problem but hide the solution.It will be useful/educative if the reply is complete.

To my knoweldge ,which may be wrong, the Abhijit Muhurtha is only for gaining back what is lost

Ex: kingdom or glory or position,legal cases etc.

Here Obama as a person ,is assuming office for the first time hence a better Muhurtha may be required.

This is my personal opinion and you need not agree with it.

 

with best wishes,

USR

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Shri USR ji,

 

You may be right here that I had hint the problem & not given solution.

How could I give solution without knowing who would be elected US president.

 

Also at present birth data of Mr Obama is under controversies, as exact date & time are not known.

 

"Abhijit Muhurt " is not as you have understood as above.

 

Please refer to my contribution in Wikipedia " Electional Astrology" - para 7.2 , for details on "Abhijit Muhurt".

for which please log on to :

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electional_astrology

 

... V K Shridhar

----------

 

http://www.besttime-election.com

 

Author of "Hindu Electional Astrology" - the best seller compendium on Vedic /Hindu system of Muhurt ( Electional ) astrology.

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