Progeny

[Coolgimmy 0]

Namaskar,

 

My sister DOB is 6th, September, 1964, time 16.45 Vadodara. She had a baby girl by IVF method in 2005 after 11years of marriage. Is there a chance of second child naturally?

 

Regards.

 

Coolgimmy

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om gurubhyo namah

 

namaste

 

dear coolgimmy

 

 

moon makes a lady a mother.

 

moon is placed in 8th in rasi and neecha in navamsa. moon is

also with rahu in navamsa.

 

moon is placed 12th to 5th in saptamsa along with ketu and mars.

 

medical intervention appears to the best way.

 

this example appears to be interesting. it will help us to learn

more if you can kindly provide the ivp date along with time of

impregnation. also you may please give birth details of the child.

 

may mother bless all

 

regards

 

sasisekaran

chennai.

[Coolgimmy 0]

Namaskar Shashikaranji,

 

I will get all the timings as from her medical reports. I have some questions on her chart.I use free JHora to cast charts and in my sister case Jupiter is in 5th house. Did it not help to some extent in natural pregnancy? What are the bad houses for moon where such case arises? Saturn also aspects moon in the rashi chart from 2nd house? What would happen if Moon is not debiliated but joined with debiliated planets in rashi or navamsha?Was that the reason of delay to take decision, as doctor had already told them to go for IVF two years after her marriage but they wanted natural way. In 2003 she conceived naturally but there was an abortion.

 

Regards/

 

Coolgimmy

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om gurubhyo namah

 

namaste

 

dear coolgimmy

 

thanks a lot for the info.

 

"why did not guru help in giving natural pregnancy ?" is a good

question. i was wondering about that .

 

after the incidents have happened, it is easy for us to place

points supporting them. but what else to do? we are all

learning the interpretation part through examples and i think

that is the best way ....

 

jupiter in 5th normally bestows children since it is the natural karaka

for that. in adoption cases, we can notice jupiter playing its part

fully to bring in children. in such cases certainly physical deformity

in one way or the other should have over ridden the jupiter's blessings.

 

all that jupiter could do was to give them the wisdom to choose a

baby from outside .. this is the logic that strike's my mind.

 

in your sister's case, jupiter is with mrityupada (a8) in rasi, neecha in

navamsa , aspected by rahu in saptamsa and in kroora shastiamsa.

 

too much affliction of moon is one reason for childlessness especially in

case of females. moon makes them mother. apart from this we should

also see the putra bhava, putra karaka ( both naisargika and chara karaka)

in rasi as well as saptamsa. finally the dasa comes in.

 

naisargika karaka for children jupiter, has its own afflictions in the chart.

venus, the chara putra karaka is afflicted by mars and rahu ( rahu has 12th

drishti apart from 5th and 9th ). venus, though in 5th in saptamasa, is

hemmed between malefics saturn and mars.

 

the dasa running in the married life was that of rahu, who is a natural enemy

of jupiter. venus as putra karaka tried to give a child, but unfortunately

it could not hold its portfolio tight as it is placed in 4th house in

navamsa, a danger house in navamsa.

 

the same venus gave them a child, but with the help of medical intervention.

this is where jupiter placed in 5th house brought its stamp and helped them

to achieve their goal.

 

above are my understandings.

 

that is why i said instead of waiting for a normal child , they can go

go in for ivf.

 

keep writing pl.

 

 

may mother bless all

 

regards

 

sasisekaran

[Coolgimmy 0]

Namaskar Shashikaranji,

 

The details you requested for are as given below:

 

IVF date and time: 18, July, 2004 around 11AM, Mumbai

 

Date of birth of daughter is : 28, March, 2005, 4.30AM Mumbai

 

Regards/

 

Coolgimmy

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om gurubhyo namah

 

namaste

 

dear coolgimmy

 

GREAT !

 

thanks once again for the much needed info.

 

pl confirm if the date of birth is 28, that is the joining of 27/28,

since the birth is in the early hours. in south often people

confuse such kind of births.

 

if we look at the time of ivf, rahu falls in the 8th. for any

muhurtha to be auspicious , the seventh and eigth from

the ascendant must be clean. this is one of the basic

requirement. i am perplexed as to how this muhurtha has culminated

in the birth of the child. the only satisfactory explanation to

satisfy ourselves is to treat this as not the union of cells

which should have occurred much earlier.

 

since i do not know about the proceedures in ivf, is this the time

when the united cells were placed in the entry of the fallopian

tube of the mother ? if you can find this, it will help us more.

sorry, i am troubling you too much....

 

since ivf has proved successful in her case, it would be prudent

to go in for that. also find if there was any conception since the

time of birth of daughter. that would definitely throw more light.

 

 

may mother bless all

 

regards

 

sasisekaran

[Coolgimmy 0]

Namaskar Shashikaranji,

 

The astrologer who made the horoscope made it according to 28th instead of 27th because as per him the second day is after 4.00AM. The time for the IVF procedure is around 11.00AM but may be it should be with mins tolerance. She had natural conception before the artificial one but not after the daughter was born even though they tried. As per her horoscope how many children are there?

 

Regards/

 

Coolgimmy

[Coolgimmy 0]

Namaste Shashikaranji,

 

I would further the subject that my brother- in -law date of birth being 3, January 1962, there is Nadi dosh prevalent in the matching. Does Nadi dosh also affects the birth of children?

 

Regards/

 

Coolgimmy

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OM GURUBHYO NAMAH

 

namaste

 

dear coolgimmy

 

i am little confused by the term second day. can we just say

the child was born in the night of 27 and early moring of 28 ?

 

birth of children appears very much possible since, rahu dasa

is ending and jupiter dasa stars from june 2009.

 

jupiter dasa seem to favour child birth very much

 

may mother bless all

 

regards

 

sasisekaran

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OM GURUBHYO NAMAH

 

namaste

 

dear coolgimmy

 

i would not to the view of predicting just based

on kuta matching. kuta matching consider's only moon

and moon sign. just imagine if the life of many born in the same

star is similar. we dont find like that.

 

his chart too should reveal difficulty in child birth. not just

the moon.

 

 

may mother bless all

 

regards

 

sasisekaran

[Coolgimmy 0]

Namaste Mr.Shashikaran,

 

I read your discussion on the mental illness topic on this forum. In the discussion at one point of time you have if Atmakaraka is bad in Navamsha then the person will suffer due to spouse or if its bad in Saptamsha then due to children. Please refer the chart of my colleague a lady whose DOB, 26,August, 1984, 6:15AM, Jamnagar. If the Navamsha is considered then, Atmakaraka is in 8th house, while in Saptamsha it is in Maranakaraka sthana. Her moon is weak and aspected by saturn in Rashi, cojoined with saturn and rahu in Navamsha and with debiliated Mars in Saptamsha. Will she too have spouse and/or problems related to children due to Atmakaraka or Moon? How do you see her life in terms of marriage and progeny?

 

Regards/

 

Coolgimmy