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Mother "Yahoda".

 

Is she the husband of dee? ;)

 

Mother Yahoda was a demigod worshiper.

 

I think I saw that in Srimad Bhoogavatim.....

 

Who was that "demi-God" that she worshipped??

She worshiped Lord Shiva and Shiva is no "demi or semi God"!!

Get this once and for all!! And stop committing this offense of

name calling Lord Maheswara as a mere "DemiGod"!!

 

Hare Krsna

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Who was that "demi-God" that she worshipped??

She worshiped Lord Shiva and Shiva is no "demi or semi God"!!

Get this once and for all!! And stop committing this offense of

name calling Lord Maheswara as a mere "DemiGod"!!

 

Hare Krsna

Since Siva represents the partial power of Lord Vishnu we consider him a demigod.

Only Vishnu is God and all other devatas are demigods.

 

The Vedic shastra says that Siva is not as great as Vishnu or Narayana, so we consider Siva as a demigod.

 

Vishnu is the origin of Siva. Siva is partial manifestation of Krishna - not complete, so he is demigod.

 

Only Vishnu, Narayana or Krishna is God.

All other devatas are demigods and serve Krishna as servant.

 

Siva is servant of Krishna.

So, he is demigod.

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Can someone at least produce the quote from SB before the battle starts?

 

geez

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Can someone at least produce the quote from SB before the battle starts?

 

geez

 

quotes don't mean anything to them fellows.

that have a belief and no quotes from anything means anything to them.

we have already been through this before.

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Who was that "demi-God" that she worshipped??

She worshiped Lord Shiva and Shiva is no "demi or semi God"!!

Get this once and for all!! And stop committing this offense of

name calling Lord Maheswara as a mere "DemiGod"!!

 

Hare Krsna

 

 

Yes I completely agree

 

Har har Mahadev!

 

Joy Sri Shiv Sambhu!

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Yes I completely agree

 

Har har Mahadev!

 

Joy Sri Shiv Sambhu!

polytheism ki-jaya!!!!:deal:

 

I guess we could use the words of Srila Saraswati Thakur and call them "dislocated portions of the Divinity".

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Srila Prabhupada derives the term "demigod" from the Sanskrit word devatah.

That is how Lord Krishna refers to the "demigods" in Bhagavad-gita.

 

Devatah = demigod

 

Hindus are polytheisitc. They think that there are many Gods.

 

Krishna is Deva Deva the God of the gods.

 

There is only ONE Deva Deva and many devatah.

Bhagavad-gītā As It Is 7.20

 

kāmais tais tair hṛta-jñānāḥ

prapadyante 'nya-devatāḥ

taḿ taḿ niyamam āsthāya

prakṛtyā niyatāḥ svayā

 

SYNONYMS

kāmaiḥ — by desires; taiḥ taiḥ — various; hṛta — deprived of; jñānāḥ — knowledge; prapadyante — surrender; anyato other; devatāḥ — demigods; tam tam — corresponding; niyamam — regulations; āsthāya — following; prakṛtyā — by nature; niyatāḥ — controlled; svayā — by their own.

 

 

TRANSLATION

Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.

 

But, Lord Siva is a guna-avatar.

He is above even Lord Brahma and almost equal to Vishnu Tattva.

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Sree Advaita Acharya is both Vishnu and Shiva.

 

Har Har Mahadeva!

 

All glory Lord Mahadeva, who lives on the icy mountain of Kailasa,

south of Siberia where the modern day sages are living!

 

 

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devadidevam-ahibhusanam-indukasam

panchananam pasupatim varadam prasannam

gangadharam pranatapalakamasutosam

vande sadasiva-haripriya-chandramaulim

 

- Sanskrit verse by the Guru of the brahmana pictured above

 

http://scsmath.org/trove2/gkunda_verses/gkunda_siva_pranam.html

 

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Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Madhya 9.76

 

amṛtalińga-śiva dekhi' vandana karila

saba śivālaye śaiva 'vaiṣṇava' ha-ila

 

SYNONYMS

amṛta-lińga-śiva — the Lord Śiva deity named Amṛta-lińga; dekhi' — seeing; vandana karila — offered obeisances; saba śiva-ālayein all the temples of Lord Śiva; śaiva — devotees of Lord Śiva; vaiṣṇava ha-ila — became devotees of Lord Kṛṣṇa.

 

 

TRANSLATION

Seeing the Śiva deity named Amṛta-lińga, Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu offered His obeisances. Thus He visited all the temples of Lord Śiva and converted the devotees of Lord Śiva into Vaiṣṇavas.

 

 

I bet Siva was really diggin' on that?

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Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Madhya 9.175

 

śiva-durgā rahe tāhāń brāhmaṇera veśe

mahāprabhu dekhi' dońhāra ha-ila ullāse

 

SYNONYMS

śiva-durgā — Lord Śiva and his wife, Durgā; rahe tāhāń — stayed there; brāhmaṇera veśein the dress of brāhmaṇas; mahāprabhu dekhi' — seeing Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu; dońhāra — of both of them; ha-ila — there was; ullāse — great pleasure.

 

 

TRANSLATION

In Śrī Śaila Lord Śiva and his wife Durgā lived in the dress of brāhmaṇas, and when they saw Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, they became very pleased.

 

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Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Madhya 9.176

 

tina dina bhikṣā dila kari' nimantraṇa

nibhṛte vasi' gupta-vārtā kahe dui jana

 

SYNONYMS

tina dina — for three days; bhikṣā dila — offered alms; kari' nimantraṇa — inviting Him; nibhṛtein a solitary place; vasi' — sitting together; gupta-vārtā — confidential talks; kahe — speak; dui jana — both of them.

 

 

TRANSLATION

Lord Śiva, dressed like a brāhmaṇa, gave alms to Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu and invited Him to spend three days in a solitary place. Sitting there together, they talked very confidentially.

 

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Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Madhya 9.177

 

tāńra sańge mahāprabhu kari iṣṭagoṣṭhī

tāńra ājñā lañā āilā purī kāmakoṣṭhī

 

SYNONYMS

tāńra sańge — with him; mahāprabhuŚrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu; kari iṣṭa-goṣṭhī — discussing spiritual subject matter; tāńra — his; ājñā — order; lañā — taking; āilā — came; purī kāmakoṣṭhīto Kāmakoṣṭhī-purī.

 

 

TRANSLATION

After talking with Lord Śiva, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu took his permission to leave and went to Kāmakoṣṭhī-purī.

 

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Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Madhya 9.280

 

gokarṇe śiva dekhi' āilā dvaipāyani

sūrpāraka-tīrthe āilā nyāsi-śiromaṇi

 

SYNONYMS

gokarṇein the place named Gokarṇa; śiva — the temple of Lord Śiva; dekhi' — seeing; āilā — came; dvaipāyanito Dvaipāyani; sūrpāraka-tīrtheto the holy place named Sūrpāraka; āilā — came; nyāsi-śiromaṇi — the best of the sannyāsīs, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

 

 

TRANSLATION

After seeing Pañcāpsarā, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu went to Gokarṇa. While there, He visited the temple of Lord Śiva, and then He went to Dvaipāyani. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, the crown jewel of all sannyāsīs, then went to Sūrpāraka-tīrtha.

 

 

PURPORT

Gokarṇa is situated in North Kanara, in the Karnataka state. It is about thirty-three miles southeast of Karwar. This place is very famous for the temple of Lord Śiva known as Mahā-baleśvara. Hundreds and thousands of pilgrims come to see this temple.

Sūrpāraka is about twenty-six miles north of Bombay. In the Maharashtra province, near Bombay, is a district known as Thānā and a place known as Sopārā. Sūrpāraka is mentioned in the Mahābhārata (Śānti-parva, 41.66-67).

 

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Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Madhya 20.311

 

'śiva' — māyā-śakti-sańgī, tamo-guṇāveśa

māyātīta, guṇātīta 'viṣṇu' — parameśa

 

 

SYNONYMS

śiva — Lord Śiva; māyā-śakti-sańgīan associate of the external energy; tamaḥ-guṇa-āveśa — absorbed by the quality of ignorance; māyā-atīta — transcendental to the external energy; guṇa-atīta — transcendental to the qualities of matter; viṣṇuViṣṇu; parama-īśa — the Supreme Lord.

 

 

TRANSLATION

"Lord Śiva is an associate of the external energy; therefore he is absorbed in the material quality of darkness. Lord Viṣṇu is transcendental to māyā and the qualities of māyā. Therefore He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

 

 

PURPORT

Viṣṇu is beyond the range of the material manifestation, and He is not within the control of the material energy. He is the supreme independent Personality of Godhead. This is admitted even by Śańkarācārya: nārāyaṇaḥ paro 'vyaktāt (Gītā-bhāṣya). In his constitutional form, Śiva is a mahā-bhāgavata, a supreme devotee of the Lord, but because he accepts māyā's association — especially the quality of ignorance — he is not free from māyā's influence. Such an intimate association is completely absent in the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu. Lord Śiva accepts māyā, but in the presence of Lord Viṣṇu, māyā does not exist. Consequently Lord Śiva has to be considered a product of māyā. When Lord Śiva is free from māyā's influence, he is in the position of a mahā-bhāgavata, a supreme devotee of Lord Viṣṇu. Vaiṣṇavānāḿ yathā śambhuḥ.

 

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Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Antya 3.262

 

caitanyāvatāre kṛṣṇa-preme lubdha hañā

brahma-śiva-sanakādi pṛthivīte janmiyā

 

SYNONYMS

caitanya-avatārein the incarnation of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu; kṛṣṇa-preme — for ecstatic love of Kṛṣṇa; lubdha hañā — being very greedy; brahma — Lord Brahmā; śiva — Lord Śiva; sanaka-ādi — the Kumāras and others; pṛthivīte — on this earth; janmiyā — taking birth.

 

 

TRANSLATION

During the incarnation of Lord Caitanya to inaugurate the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, even such personalities as Lord Brahmā, Lord Śiva and the four Kumāras took birth upon this earth, being allured by ecstatic love of Lord Kṛṣṇa.

 

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Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 8.7.29

 

mukhāni pañcopaniṣadas taveśa

yais triḿśad-aṣṭottara-mantra-vargaḥ

yat tac chivākhyaḿ paramātma-tattvaḿ

deva svayaḿ-jyotir avasthitis te

 

SYNONYMS

mukhāni — faces; pañca — five; upaniṣadaḥ — Vedic literatures; tava — your; īśaO lord; yaiḥ — by which; triḿśat-aṣṭa-uttara-mantra-vargaḥin the category of thirty-eight important Vedic mantras; yat — that; tatas it is; śiva-ākhyam — celebrated by the name Śiva; paramātma-tattvam — which ascertain the truth about Paramātmā; devaO lord; svayam-jyotiḥ — self-illuminated; avasthitiḥ — situation; te — of Your

Lordship.

 

 

TRANSLATION

O lord, the five important Vedic mantras are represented by your five faces, from which the thirty-eight most celebrated Vedic mantras have been generated. Your Lordship, being celebrated as Lord Śiva, is self-illuminated. You are directly situated as the supreme truth, known as Paramātmā.

 

 

PURPORT

The five mantras mentioned in this connection are as follows: (1) Puruṣa, (2) Aghora, (3) Sadyojāta, (4) Vāmadeva, and (5) Īśāna. These five mantras are within the category of thirty-eight special Vedic mantras chanted by Lord Śiva, who is therefore celebrated as Śiva or Mahādeva. Another reason why Lord Śiva is called Śiva, which means "all-auspicious," is that he is self-illuminated, exactly like Lord Viṣṇu, who is the Paramātmā. Because Lord Śiva is directly an incarnation of Lord Viṣṇu, he is situated as Lord Viṣṇu's direct representative. This fact is corroborated by a Vedic mantra: patiḿ viśvasyātmeśvaraḿ śāśvatam. śivam acyutam. The Supersoul is called by many names, of which Maheśvara, Śiva and Acyuta are especially mentioned.

 

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Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 10.40.8

 

tvām evānye śivoktena

mārgeṇa śiva-rūpiṇam

bahv-ācārya-vibhedena

bhagavantarn upāsate

 

SYNONYMS

tvām — You; eva — also; anye — others; śiva — by Lord Śiva; uktena — spoken; mārgeṇa — by the path; śiva-rūpiṇamin the form of Lord Śiva; bahu-ācārya — of many teachers; vibhedena — following the different presentations; bhagavantam — the Supreme Lord; upāsate — they worship.

 

 

TRANSLATION

There are still others, who worship You, the Supreme Lord, in the form of Lord Śiva. They follow the path described by him and interpreted in various ways by many teachers.

 

 

PURPORT

The words tvām eva, "You also," indicate that the path of worshiping Lord Śiva is indirect and therefore inferior. Akrūra himself is following the superior method by directly worshiping Kṛṣṇa, or Viṣṇu, with his prayers.

 

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mukhāni pañcopaniṣadas taveśa

yais triḿśad-aṣṭottara-mantra-vargaḥ

yat tac chivākhyaḿ paramātma-tattvaḿ

deva svayaḿ-jyotir avasthitis te

 

TRANSLATION

O lord, the five important Vedic mantras are represented by your five faces, from which the thirty-eight most celebrated Vedic mantras have been generated. Your Lordship, being celebrated as Lord Śiva, is self-illuminated. You are directly situated as the supreme truth, known as Paramātmā.

 

The Supersoul is called by many names, of which Maheśvara, Śiva and Acyuta are especially mentioned.

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Srila Prabhupada derives the term "demigod" from the Sanskrit word devatah.

That is how Lord Krishna refers to the "demigods" in Bhagavad-gita.

 

Devatah = demigod

 

Hindus are polytheisitc. They think that there are many Gods.

 

Krishna is Deva Deva the God of the gods.

 

There is only ONE Deva Deva and many devatah.

But, Lord Siva is a guna-avatar.

He is above even Lord Brahma and almost equal to Vishnu Tattva.

 

Guruvani. You are a total idiot! You are flaunting your knowledge of devta terminology. But did you ever try to enquire into Shri Mahadeva? Did you enquire why he is "Maha"deva. He is not Devata narrow minded jack! He is Maha devata. He is God. As powerful as Vishnu. Period. Why would Vishnu pray to his partial amsha? According to your understanding, you should be praying to your arms and legs if that is the case. he he!! :D

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