Rama- 12 kala-avatar, Krishna- 16 kala-avatar

[radhagovind 0]

anyone know that these are? and does anyone know how many kalas do other gods and demigods have? i know about 64 qualities but what is kala?

[Guruvani 0]

 

Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 5.73

 

aḿśera aḿśa yei, 'kalā' tāra nāma

govindera pratimūrti śrī-balarāma

 

SYNONYMS

aḿśera — of the part; aḿśa — part; yei — that which; kalā — a kalā, or part of the plenary portion; tāra — its; nāma — name; govindera — of Lord Govinda; prati-mūrti — counterform; śrī-balarāma — Lord Balarāma.

 

 

TRANSLATION

A part of a part of a whole is called a kalā. Śrī Balarāma is the counterform of Lord Govinda.

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Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 5.74

 

tāńra eka svarūpa — śrī-mahā-sańkarṣaṇa

tāńra aḿśa 'puruṣa' haya kalāte gaṇana

 

SYNONYMS

tāńra — His; eka — one; svarūpa — manifestation; śrī-mahā-sańkarṣaṇa — the great Lord Mahā-sańkarṣaṇa; tāńra — His; aḿśa — part; puruṣa — the Mahā-Viṣṇu incarnation; haya — is; kalāte gaṇana — counted as a kalā.

 

 

TRANSLATION

Balarāma's own expansion is called Mahā-sańkarṣaṇa, and His fragment, the puruṣa, is counted as a kalā, or a part of a plenary portion.

 

 

 

 

Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 5.75

 

yāńhāke ta' kalā kahi, tińho mahā-viṣṇu

mahā-puruṣāvatārī teńho sarva-jiṣṇu

 

SYNONYMS

yāńhāke — unto whom; ta' — certainly; kalā kahi — I say kalā; tińho — He; mahā-viṣṇu — Lord Mahā-Viṣṇu; mahā-puruṣāvatārī — Mahā-Viṣṇu, the source of other puruṣa incarnations; teńho — He; sarva-jiṣṇu — all-pervading.

 

 

TRANSLATION

I say that this kalā is Mahā-Viṣṇu. He is the Mahā-puruṣa, who is the source of the other puruṣas and who is all-pervading.

 

[Guruvani 0]

 

Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta Ādi 5.78

 

yadyapi kahiye tāńre kṛṣṇera 'kalā' kari

matsya-kūrmādy-avatārera tińho avatārī

 

SYNONYMS

yadyapi — although; kahiye — I say; tāńre — to Him; kṛṣṇera — of Lord Kṛṣṇa; kalā — part of the part; kari — making; matsya — the fish incarnation; kūrma-ādi — the tortoise incarnation and others; avatārera — of all these incarnations; tińho — He; avatārī — the original source.

 

 

TRANSLATION

Although Kāraṇodaśāyī Viṣṇu is called a kalā of Lord Kṛṣṇa, He is the source of Matsya, Kūrma and the other incarnations.

 

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Lord Rama had 14 kalas n Krsna had 16 kalas!

[radhagovind 0]

I read that rama's brother laxman was shesha naag incarnation, bharat was sudarshana chakra incarnation, and shatrughna was conch incarnation. These are all of vishnu's weapons while rama was lord vishnu himself. Any idea on this?

[radhagovind 0]

 

Lord Rama had 14 kalas n Krsna had 16 kalas!

this is what i heard in vishnupuran but online, it says 12.

[Guruvani 0]

 

I read that rama's brother laxman was shesha naag incarnation, bharat was sudarshana chakra incarnation, and shatrughna was conch incarnation. These are all of vishnu's weapons while rama was lord vishnu himself. Any idea on this?

 

In the Srimad Bhagavatam 2.7.23, Srila Prabhupada says in purport:

 

 

Originally Lord Rāmacandra is the incarnation of Vāsudeva, Lakṣmaṇa is the incarnation of Sańkarṣaṇa, Bharata is the incarnation of Pradyumna, and Śatrughna is the incarnation of Aniruddha, expansions of the Personality of Godhead.

[L33L4 0]

When Purushottam incarnates on Earth in his FULLEST form, He as 16 symbols of divinity on his feet, and He is called Purna Purushottam. Krishna Bhagwan had the 16 symbols, so He was Purna Purushottam. Ram Bhagwan, had only 12 symbols. So He was a partial incarnation of Purushottam, and He was called Maryada Purushottam, not Purna Purushottam This does not mean he was inferior. God incarnates to the extent of power that he needs. Since Krishna Bhagwan incarnated to kill Kansa and win the epic Mahabharat, Purushottam came as Purna Purushottam. Ram Bhagwan came on Earth just to kill Ravan, so not all of Purushottam's power was needed. Lord Swaminarayan was also Purna Purushottam, since he had all 16 symbols on his feet. Original footprints of Lord Swaminarayan are still out there in Mandirs. But most of the symbols on them have faded. The only set of Lord Swaminarayan's footprints which the symbols are visible are in the BAPS Ahmedabad Mandir. Lord Purushottam needed to incarnate as Lord Swaminarayan in his fullest form because at that time India was steeped into darkness. When man indulged in immorals such as drugs, adultery etc. Lord Swaminarayan enlightened countless souls and changes immoral people and tantrics into compassionate, pure satsangis

 

Jai Swaminarayan

Jai Ramchandra

Jai Shri Krishna