Satsvarupa Literature Sanatorium

[bhaktachris 0]

 

Sanatorium=Meaning #2: pejorative terms for an insane asylum

 

pejorative=Tending to make or become worse.

Disparaging; belittling.

n.

A disparaging or belittling word or expression.

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Warning: The following guru words are rated X, not for children to hear/read

 

novel “Sanatorium” by Satsvarupa das Goswami Gita Nagari Press, 2005 Page 360, 361, 420................................

 

SDG>"Bold as she was, she placed his hands on her breasts. She then kissed him and placed her tongue in his mouth. His tongue also entered hers. She embreaced him and by now he had a half erection...................... Braja dasa sat down and calmed his genitals............... He did'nt want to stick his genital into some well formed beauty star. He wanted Sandy. And he had heard from a Godbrother who worked as a physical therapist that a man could even have sexual intercourse with a parapllegic.................. I'ts not just a sticking in of a penis into a vagina. It's the being together in the touching and the embracing that lead up to the mechanics and the orgasm"

SDG>"Most of all I acknowledge my spiritual master, His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada................. I pray that Sanatorium pleases him and that he blesses it to be widely read around the globe." Sanatorium by Satsvarupa das Goswami Gita Nagari Press, 2005 Acknowledgements

 

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE <!--QuoteEBegin-->Room Conversation

with Dr. John Mize

by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda

June 23, 1975, Los Angeles

The same desire, same propensity, can be

utilized for serving Kṛṣṇa. Just like we are writing books, keeping

night, whole night. So for an old man like me, it is tedious. But we

are doing for Kṛṣṇa. So similarly, another author may be writing

whole night for some sex literature. So the labor for producing a sex

literature and the labor for producing a Bhāgavata is the same. It

may be same ambition that “Let me become a big author. My name

will be very popular.” But one thing is being done for Kṛṣṇa; one

thing is being done for sense gratification. So that propensity of

becoming a reputed author or the labor, this, same, but it is being

utilized for different purposes. <!--QuoteEnd-->

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Room Conversation

by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda

January 8, 1977, Bombay

Prabhupāda: Not guru finds you. You have to find out guru. Guru is

there. Guru is there. But if you want to be cheated, then you find out.

And if you want to be cheated, the cheaters will… Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpa.

If you are actually serious to serve Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, then Kṛṣṇa will

give you: “Here is guru.” Guru is there. Guru is there, but unless you

are actually serious, you cannot get real guru. If you want to be

cheated or if you are a cheater, then you’ll get a cheater guru.<!--QuoteEnd-->

[theist 1]

He still uses the title gosvami and wears a sannyasi costume. Here is a perfect lesson on why one should never desire to be worshipped as guru. Krsna will let you become a clown who insists on taking himself seriously and a spectecle to those watching.

 

Guru means proper servant.

 

Sad thing to see really.

[Mahadyuti 0]

 

one should never be desired to be worshipped as guru. Krsna will let you become a clown who insists on taking himself seriously and a spectecle to those watching.

 

That is so very true Prabhu. Looking at that picture, I dont know who is worse, the cheater or the foolish followers.

[theist 1]

probably

That is so very true Prabhu. Looking at that picture, I dont know who is worse, the cheater or the foolish followers.

You are right. They need each other. Cheaters and the cheaters.

 

On his website several years back he was talking about how he was trying to give up his material attachments. This was after he was found out to be laying around naked in bed, "with half an erection," with some other devotees wife.

He also invited emails so I sent him one suggesting he give up his attachment to the title gosvami.

 

I wasn't surprised to not receive a response.

 

This is something like watching Jayatirtha getting his head sawed off in slow motion. I just can't watch, it is too gruesome.

[mahak 0]

But I feel sorry for him, thats all I can conjure up. Srila Prabhupada once thought very highly of him, I attended his sanyassi ceremony where another old friend received the danda as well.

 

Hes old, burnt out, obviously insane, paying his price as we all must. The fact that he has made some serious blunders cannot be overly criticized by this old burnt out, insane blunderer. He is just what he is, like kirtananda, all there in living color.

 

Its actually the followers I wonder about.

 

haribol, ys, mahaksadasa

[theist 1]

I met him only one time in 1971. He struck me as such a wonderful humble devotee. So very unassuming at least for the week I was around him. I was extremely serious about this being the effect of desiring to be worshipped as a guru instead of just being a guru by remaining a proper servant of one's own guru.

 

That one desire is like stepping off the edge of land into a black abyss. A good sign would be his giving up the pretense of the sannyas ashram and not accept formal worship from those he has bambozzled all these years.

 

That would also cause his disciples to engage in some deep introspection over what brought them to that position. All would benefit. But I won't be holding my breath.

[Guest guest]

Some didnt surprise me how they turned out. But like Satswarupa, Jayatirtha was also such a nice person, incredibly so. Sometimes I think they did what they did as some sort of token karma to work out, both their actions as well as reactions. I dont ever talk about this, though, because folks were hurt deeply by some of these people. But nervous breakdowns, psychosis, personality changes, these mental illnesses are real, and do happen, to real people. Devotees get sick and die, so it is not unreasonable to think that a devotee may have alzeimers or other psychotic illnesses, a messed electric charge that does produce some of the things we've seen. I work with autistic adults, and the look in their eyes is similar to the photo above.

 

Maybe Charlie Manson was a sweet little baby, too. Im glad my job aint about worrying about how others have gone astray, I just gotta meditate on the johnny cash song, "I walk the Line".

 

haribol, ys, mahaksadasa

[theist 1]

 

Some didnt surprise me how they turned out. But like Satswarupa, Jayatirtha was also such a nice person, incredibly so. Sometimes I think they did what they did as some sort of token karma to work out, both their actions as well as reactions. I dont ever talk about this, though, because folks were hurt deeply by some of these people. But nervous breakdowns, psychosis, personality changes, these mental illnesses are real, and do happen, to real people. Devotees get sick and die, so it is not unreasonable to think that a devotee may have alzeimers or other psychotic illnesses, a messed electric charge that does produce some of the things we've seen. I work with autistic adults, and the look in their eyes is similar to the photo above.

 

Maybe Charlie Manson was a sweet little baby, too. Im glad my job aint about worrying about how others have gone astray, I just gotta meditate on the johnny cash song, "I walk the Line".

 

haribol, ys, mahaksadasa

 

This is a subject I have wanted to bring up for years but always worried how it would be taken. Dementia happens. What if a disciple has been accepting siksa from someone for years and his teacher starts to show brain abnormalities and his teaching suffers sometimes seriously?

 

Caitya guru never suffers in this way thankfully.

[Guest guest]

Anyone heard about this new book by Satsvarupa dasa? I read an article on it on sampradaya sun..

 

After reading one excerpt from it.. I'm surprised this guy has disciples. I was even more shocked when they put a photo of his disciples bathing his feet... and perhaps even drinking the remant water.

 

I must say, I am absolutely shocked that any Vaisnava would write such a thing.

 

God help ISKCON if it has leaders like this guy running it.

 

What a disappointment to Prabhupada.

[krsna 3]

SDG in 1982 at Trinidad Deity Installation Ceremony.

 

"Rather than join in with the jeering section, we must express great sadness over the present condition and position of a soul whom I know to have at one point been very sincere and clear in his exclusive dedication to Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Alas!

Our own memory of Sripad Satsvarup Maharaj will always be of a different nature than the very bad news sorrowfully expressed in yesterday's Sun. :crying2: :crying2:

I remember as a new bhakta in the Chicago temple in 1976 that the visiting GBC man, Satsvarup Goswami, was "caught" cleaning the stool room floor in the middle of the night. He explained that if he tried to do it any other time, he would have been prevented. I was greatly impressed with his humility and dedication in serving the devotees. May Sri Guru smile upon this soul, that he might again return to such humble clarity and unencumbered dedication to espousing the Real Krishna Consciousness he learned from his beloved guru, Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. With all our hearts we must give this soul all of our best wishes for a speedy and full recovery, so he may not simply become yet another casualty in the totalitarian war against illusion. ":pray: :pray: :pray:

 

 

May 29, FORT WHITE, FLORIDA (SUN) [from the Sampradaya Sun article by JAGABANDHU DASA]

[theist 1]

Sadly, we must be cognizant of the people he is misleading with his guru charade. Silence means agreement. Silence means becoming an enabler to this travesty and it's continuence.

 

The best for Satsvarupa das(no gosvami) and his followers would be for him to drop the game that he is taking them back to Godhead and go back to that humble devotee of the 60's and 70's and in so doing be an example to all others.

[Guest guest]

"Silence means agreement."

 

Since when. Just because something gets published in the Sun doesn't mean that others actually know about it.

[theist 1]

 

"Silence means agreement."

 

Since when. Just because something gets published in the Sun doesn't mean that others actually know about it.

 

What???? "Silenece means agreement" is a well known saying that fits in the context of this conversation. Nothing to do with the Sun and whatever else you may be meaning.

[mahak 0]

Silence may not necessarily mean agreement. It may mean that one is not interested in chanting the glories or inglories of those stuck in the material world.

 

When one who is a kanistha adhikari, and stumbles like all kanistha adhikaris do, this is NOT a surprise, it is rather expected. So we have some who may say, "TSK TSK", and write elaborate exposes of their fallen former friends, and others who write elaborate defenses of both the person and even the activity, and some may really prefer that both sides just keep silent.

 

I agree with satswarupa's right to write whatever he wants. If he wants to write a fantasy with descriptive and even objectionable words and phrases, this is his right. I havent read the book, so I wont critique one way or another.

 

I dont feel sorry for anyone who may read a book deemed to be a trashy writing. Ive read some pretty trashy stuff by vaisnavas that are nothing more than misplaced and misconstrued out of context quotes from my spiritual master. These are not spiritual writings either, and though there may not be trashy, sex-strewn ideologies, the effect on the reader is just as damaging, even more so. And I dont feel sorry for those who have been damaged by those books, either. Right to read is connected to right to write, and readers of what is written are intimately connected to the writer, either by lust or anger. Those who hate this guys writings are no different than those who love them.

 

Silence is not a crime, it is a virtue, in fact, a requirement for all vaisnavas, Mauna should always be practiced, unless the tongue and words are fully absorbed in Harinama or Krsna Katha.

 

Hare Krsna. Go get em, satswarupa, publish or perish. Everyones a critic. They probably dont like your artwork either. ys, mahaksadasa

[krsna 3]

 

Srimad Bhagavatam: The Real Solution!

 

 

 

BY: BHAGAVAT DAS (ACBSP)

 

 

 

May 31, USA (SUN) —

I just finished reading the article concerning my God Brother Satsvarupa Maharaja's new novel

"Sanatorium".

I went to his website and read the following recent quote from him in Mexico:

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  "That's a nice standard. He shot his mistress, in a movie. Is that a waste of time? You could be reading
  Srimad Bhagavatam
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I may be wrong, but it appears that he is chastising himself for watching a movie instead of reading Srimad Bhagavatam. Or maybe he is chastising the guy in the movie who shot his mistress for not reading Srimad Bhagavatam. Whatever he is doing, he should be reading more Srimad Bhagavatam because serendipitously, when I opened up the Srimad Bhagavatam right after reading this statement the first verse I read was the following:

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  TRANSLATION
  
  
  Vidura said: The line of Svayambhuva Manu was most esteemed. O worshipful sage, I beg you-give me an account of this race, whose progeny multiplied through sexual intercourse.
  
  
  
  
  PURPORT
  
  
  Regulated sex life to generate good population is worth accepting. Actually,
  Vidura was not interested in hearing the history of persons who merely engaged in sex life, but he was interested in the progeny of Svayambhuva Manu because in that dynasty , good devotee kings appeared who protected their subjects very carefully with spiritual knowledge. By hearing the history of their activities, therefore, one becomes more enlightened.
  An important word used in this connection is parama-sammatau, which indicates that the progeny created by Svayambhuva Manu and his sons was approved of by great authorities. In other words, sex life for creating exemplary population is acceptable to all sages and authorities of Vedic scripture.
  
  
  Srimad Bhagavatam 3.21.1
  
  

 

 

 

Maybe Satsvarupa Maharaja could write about the activities of these great progenitors in Srimad Bhagavatam instead of writing fiction. Or if he writes so-called fiction, it should be spiritually enlightening like Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur's Jaiva Dharma, which in reality is not fiction, but Srila Thakur Bhaktivinoda's spiritual visions of the associates of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu who remained on this planet just after He left this world at Tota Gopinath. This is the real definition of transcendental writing -- it is the revelation of the transcendental activities of the Lord and His Pure Devotees. Not some fictional characters who are dealing with their mundane sex desires in explicit terms in order to pander to the whims of a captive audience who are looking for a psychological massage for their mental meanderings. The soothing Balm for all such mental problems is reading the Srimad Bhagavatam and associating with Pure Devotees of the Lord, not pretending to be one and commiserating with your so-called disciples about yours and their sexual foibles on the mental platform by writing all this drivel.

 

 

Srila Prabhupada points out in the Purport that Vidura would not be interested in hearing about the history of real persons who were engaged in mundane sex life, what to speak of fictional persons. Srila Prabhupada also points out in the Purport that by hearing of the progeny produced by persons like Syambhuva Manu, who produced good devotee kings who protected their subjects very carefully with spiritual knowledge, one becomes more enlightened. Like the good devotee kings, the Guru is supposed to protect his disciples very carefully by giving them spiritual knowledge, not feeding their weaknesses with so-called therapeutic writing which is nothing more then psychobabble for "lets manufacture a so-called bona fide way to read pornography."

 

 

Satsvarupa Maharaja has some excellent writing skills, which should be put to good use by writing about the pure transcendental pastimes of the Pure Devotees and the Lord as described in the Srimad Bhagavatam. This is the real medicine that both he and his disciples need.

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  SB 1.2.18 - "By regular attendance in classes on the Bhagavatam and by rendering of service to the pure devotee, all that is troublesome to the heart is almost completely destroyed, and loving service unto the Personality of Godhead, who is praised with transcendental songs, is established as an irrevocable fact."
  
  

 

 

 

THIS IS THE REAL SOLUTION TO ALL OF LIFE'S PROBLEMS!

 

 

Your Worthless Servant,

 

Bhagavat dasa

 

 

[krsna 3]

from

 

http://www.dandavats.com/?p=3867

 

In response to some devotees concerns regarding his book Sanatorium, Satsvarupa Maharaja has given the following comment and has also decided to withdraw from circulation any remaining copies of the book.

Dear Devotees,

 

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

 

I have come to realize that my book “

Sanitorium

” contains explicit sexual scenes and references. I am sorry I have written it. I apologize and promise not to write a book like this again.

 

 

Yours in service to Prabhupada,

 

Satvarupa das Goswami